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Bonnie March 8th, 2005, 11:57 PM I'm 14 years old and have been a John Wayne fan since I was about 10. 2 years ago I stopped being such a big fan (for a stupid reason I don't feel like sharing right now), but I still like to sometimes watch a John Wayne movie. My dad got me into John Wayne and I've read some books about him. My favorite JW movie is El Dorado. I've watched it about 40 times! I have every line memorized. And my dad has every line memorized of Rio Bravo, which is his favorite. I love message boards, and I thought the only kind I'm not on is a John Wayne one. So here I am. :D
Are there any other young fans here?
chester7777 March 9th, 2005, 12:09 AM Bonnie,
WELCOME to the John Wayne Message Board!! It's great to have you here, and you'll discover there is a really great bunch of folks here.
While most of our members are somewhat older, we do have a few younger members. JWfan is about 15 or 16 by now, I think. He lives overseas, in Holland. Robbie is 21, and in Great Britain. Those are the members I can think of, of the top of my head, that are closest in age to you.
As for me, I am 57 years old, and the Mrs. is 48. We have six kids, but only one is a real John Wayne fan, and that is our youngest son, who will be 9 in May. He's been a self-proclaimed cowboy since he was about 3 years old (used to stomp around in his cowboy boots and oversized Stetson and say, "I John Wayne! I a cowboy!") and he definitely loves the Duke. He has a real memory for actors in different movies, and plot lines, and constantly surprises his "old" parents.
As you will learn, our members are from around the world and share a common love for the Duke. I notice you are from California - so are we!
So welcome, and we hope you will become a real regular around here!
:D :jump: :D :jump:
Chester :newyear: and the Mrs. :angel1:
InHarmsWay March 9th, 2005, 05:56 AM hey bonnie,welcome to the forums...glad you came back into liking John Wayne again...im guessing the reason was because you didnt think he was cool..or had to do something with friends.
Im 19,and im canada...so i guess im.."young" haha, anyways ive liked john wayne since i was....still in pampers,i remember watching all the movies with my grandfather.
Again,welcome to the forums and i hope you enjoy your stay here :).
-IHW
Cole Thornton March 9th, 2005, 07:53 AM Welcome, Bonnie! El Dorado was the Wayne movie that got me into the Duke and until my new obsession with Donovan's Reef, it was my favorite of his. I, too have every line memorized. BTW, you're much cooler than I was when I was 14, it took me another eight years to fully appreciate John Wayne's legend! I was merely a casual fan before that time.
InHarmsWay: You're only 19? You sure had me fooled! I enjoy reading your erudite posts, keep 'em coming!
InHarmsWay March 9th, 2005, 10:11 AM Well thanks Cole,nice of you to say so!.But i must confess....i had to look up "erudite", lol.
-IHW
Bonnie March 9th, 2005, 01:43 PM Thanks guys! You are a really nice group.
Cole Thornton-- I like your signature. :lol:
Something kinda cool is my sister went to Ireland a few years ago, and she walked right where John Wayne walked while filming The Quiet Man. And she got me two wood black & white pictures of scenes from The Quiet Man, and they're still hanging on my wall.
Jay J. Foraker March 9th, 2005, 02:54 PM Hi Bonnie -
Welcome to the John Wayne Message Board where you can find out all sorts of things about the Duke and a lot of other subjects. You'll find it both fun and informative - as well as addictive.
Cole - I thought I was the only one to use big words - you caught me by surprise!
Cheers - Jay :D
SXViper March 9th, 2005, 07:58 PM Hi Bonnie. Welcome to the message board. Hope to keep seeing you here. See you around.
Cole Thornton March 10th, 2005, 10:25 AM Originally posted by Jay J. Foraker+Mar 9 2005, 03:54 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Jay J. Foraker @ Mar 9 2005, 03:54 PM)</div>
Cole - I thought I was the only one to use big words - you caught me by surprise!
Cheers - Jay* * :D
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Well thanks Cole,nice of you to say so!.But i must confess....i had to look up "erudite", lol.
-IHW
LOL! :D The only thing more embarrassing than my occasional choice of words is when I begin to pontificate when someone asks me a question! One of the many perils of having a humanities degree...
The Ringo Kid March 10th, 2005, 01:58 PM :cowboy: Hello Bonnie, welcome to this great site. I think you will enjoy it as much as I have. TRK.
Bonnie March 13th, 2005, 10:01 PM I was just thinking, since I'm older now than I was a few years ago, maybe my mom will let me watch some of the movies she thought would be too violent back then, like Big Jake and The Green Berets. Are those even that violent??
This is fun getting back into The Duke again! ^_^
erscolo March 13th, 2005, 11:56 PM Okay, which way to the old age pension/social security office. I must be in a shrinking minority that can remember when John Wayne was alive. Fourteen and Nineteen....been out of high school longer than that, but that's good, I am glad his fans come in all age groups.
Big Jake is violent in parts, but I wouldn't say the violence is gratuitous. It's a film I enjoy and just watched again the other night. It's been a long time since I watched The Green Berets, so the violence level there escapes me at the moment. I suspect both would get a PG13 rating or similar, bu that's just a guess.
Roger.
chester7777 March 14th, 2005, 12:54 AM Originally posted by Bonnie@Mar 13 2005, 08:01 PM
I was just thinking, since I'm older now than I was a few years ago, maybe my mom will let me watch some of the movies she thought would be too violent back then, like Big Jake and The Green Berets.* Are those even that violent??
This is fun getting back into The Duke again! ^_^
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Bonnie,
What movies does your mom let you watch? I don't really want my almost 9 year old to watch Big Jake. Compared to many other John Wayne movies, it was quite a bit more graphic as far as the violence goes - I remember being very surprised by that, and not allowing him to continue watching it. Have you seen the Indiana Jones movies? I would say they would be similar in "gory-ness." If you've seen Indie, you should be allowed to watch Big Jake. I guess the same would go for The Green Berets, although the context of that movie is one of war, so I look at the violence in that one a little differently. There are definitely some graphically violent scenes in that one. How sensitive you are might determine if you should watch it.
Now that's just my opinion, and I wouldn't want to encourage you to go against your parent's wishes :rolleyes: , because of course they know you much better than I do.
Mrs. C :angel1: (mother of six - ages 24, 22, 16, 14, 8, and 6)
Cole Thornton March 14th, 2005, 07:22 AM Originally posted by erscolo@Mar 14 2005, 12:56 AM
Okay, which way to the old age pension/social security office.* I must be in a shrinking minority that can remember when John Wayne was alive.* Fourteen and Nineteen....been out of high school longer than that, but that's good, I am glad his fans come in all age groups.
Roger.
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I was eight when John Wayne died, and I remember that day well. I was visiting my grandparents and was sitting in front of their huge TV set (the ones that looked like furniture) and I recall being surprised that he died, as I was unaware that Duke had been ill.
Didn't we have a poll thread here a while back that allowed forum members to click the age group they were in? We'll have to bump that and have the new members chime in on it.
Mrs.McLintock March 14th, 2005, 09:11 AM I was in high school when he died; actually in a dress store trying on formals on the chance that I would be asked to the prom the next year. The store had a radio and it came over the news.
As for your mom not letting you watch some of John Wayne's movies - well we moms usually have pretty good reasons for that kind of stuff.
William T Brooks March 17th, 2005, 06:28 PM Boy you people make me feel old , I was about 8 years old when I first saw "Stagecoach" for the first time, and my Grandmother who lived at that time in the old West told me that it was all "Just Make Believe" and I knew that it was just that. :D If I remember correctly there was very little Blood and and Guts in those early John Wayne Films, but lots of Action, but times have changed now!!! Chilibill :cowboy:
Ps: You must be able to know what is Real and What is Make-Believe!!!
Bonnie March 20th, 2005, 10:53 AM Originally posted by chester7777@Mar 13 2005, 11:54 PM
Bonnie,
What movies does your mom let you watch?* I don't really want my almost 9 year old to watch Big Jake.* Compared to many other John Wayne movies, it was quite a bit more graphic as far as the violence goes - I remember being very surprised by that, and not allowing him to continue watching it.* Have you seen the Indiana Jones movies?* I would say they would be similar in "gory-ness."* If you've seen Indie, you should be allowed to watch Big Jake.
No, I haven't seen the Indiana Jones movies, but I think she would let me watch them. I think I would be perfectly fine watching Big Jake, but I'll ask her sometime what she thinks about it. She doesn't want me to watch the movie "Tora, Tora, Tora", so she might not like me to watch The Green Berets. Oh well, I'll just ask her later.
Cole Thornton March 20th, 2005, 05:53 PM No Indiana Jones, eh? I was 10 when the first one came out and EVERY boy worth his weight in Topps trading cards had to see it. But, who the heck am I to tell someone how to raise their child? BTW, most boys love monsters and adventure stuff. It works wonders for the imagination, IMO.
Hondo Duke Lane March 20th, 2005, 10:38 PM Bonnie,
Of course listen to your mom, if she says no, I must agree with her decision. Big Jake does have its moments and may not be suitable to younger audiences, but with today's movies I must say that almost every movie out today, and I do say almost, is a lot tamer than Big Jake. But I do value your mother's concern.
There are many more Duke movies out that are good and suitable for you to watch. You can get these movies: McLintock!, Hatri!, Donovan's Reef, Angel & The Badman (for you chilibill), North to Alaska, Trouble Along the Way (on VHS), Circus World (on VHS), and many more.
I hope this helps in your selection of Duke movies.
Cheers Hondo B)
Cole Thornton March 21st, 2005, 05:58 AM Originally posted by Hondo Duke Lane@Mar 20 2005, 11:38 PM
Bonnie,
Big Jake does have its moments and may not be suitable to younger audiences, but with today's movies I must say that almost every movie out today, and I do say almost, is a lot tamer than Big Jake.* But I do value your mother's concern.*
Cheers* Hondo** B)
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Today's movies tamer than Big Jake? Wow, I'll have to see that one again, as it's been awhile. I can't imagine any Duke movie being more violent than say, Kill Bill. I think you're being too harsh on Big Jake, but I'll have to see it again to really be sure.
chester7777 March 21st, 2005, 08:01 AM I'd have to agree with you, Cole Thornton, there is NO comparison between Big Jake and Kill Bill (not you, Chilibill :wub: ).
Not that Hondo implied that, of course.
However, Big Jake was a departure from most other Duke movies. The Cowboys, as much as I dislike the scene in which John Wayne's character is brutally killed, still doesn't seem quite as violent, IMO, as the negative parts of Big Jake.
Chester :newyear:
William T Brooks March 21st, 2005, 08:37 AM Chester thanks a bunch, I really not ready to go yet! :fear2: Bonnie I have to agree with Hondo if you watch "McLintock, Hatri, Donovan's Reef and of course The Angel and the Badman" a great love story :wub: and I had a small part in that film and I was only a few years older than you at that time. If you watch these films you will have a lot of Good Clean Fun :lol: and see Duke at his Best. :cowboy:
But remember what my Grandmother told me when I was your age. That most of these old John Wayne Films "ARE JUST MAKE-BELIEVE" :ph34r: and not the real thing!!! Chilibill :cowboy:
Cole Thornton March 21st, 2005, 05:16 PM Speaking of MCLINTOCK, has there ever been a widescreen print of the film? I was watching it on Turner Classic Movies last night and it was full frame. If a movie is in widescreen format, TCM will show it as such. My video copy is also full-frame.
Jay J. Foraker March 21st, 2005, 07:33 PM Hi Cole -
I noticed the same thing a couple of months ago when TCM showed "McLintock" before. And my VHS version is the same way even though it is touted as "The Director's Cut. I think it may have something to do with not having been processed in wide screen yet. It was definitly filmed in wide screen. I don't know what has to be done to process movies this way - whether they have to be transfered to VHS or DVD with involved technical steps or what. Anyway, it's a theory.
Cheers - Jay ;)
Hondo Duke Lane March 21st, 2005, 08:24 PM Originally posted by Hondo Duke Lane@Mar 20 2005, 11:38 PM
I must say that almost every movie out today, and I do say almost, is a lot tamer than Big Jake.*
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I incorrectly wrote this. I meant to say that a lot of movies today are not tame as Big Jake. I didn't proof read this as close as I should, but sorry for the confusion.
Cheers B)
Bonnie March 21st, 2005, 09:06 PM I have seen McLintock!, Donovan's Reef, Angel & the Bad Man ("We're friends."......."Friends of who?" lol :D ) and North To Alaska.
And surprisingly I have seen The Cowboys once. My mom didn't really want me to watch it, but once it came on t.v. and she was too busy talking to my brother to notice it was starting, and she just let me watch the rest of it.
BTW- This has nothing to do with this discussion.......I don't think I've said that my second favorite JW movie has to be Chisum. I LOVE that one! Isn't it so cool?!
Cole Thornton March 22nd, 2005, 06:34 AM Originally posted by Bonnie@Mar 21 2005, 10:06 PM
BTW- This has nothing to do with this discussion.......I don't think I've said that my second favorite JW movie has to be Chisum. I LOVE that one! Isn't it so cool?!
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Talk about it anyway! :D Heck, it's the Duke we're talkin' about! I've noticed that CHISUM has quite a following. I like it well enough, especially that darn theme song...so catchy.
JWAngel April 22nd, 2005, 08:46 PM :lol: Mr. Brooks:
I'm kinda new to this site. May I ask your role in "Angel and the Bad Man"? That is my all time favorite John Wayne!!!
JWAngel
Originally posted by William T Brooks@Mar 21 2005, 08:37 AM
Chester thanks a bunch, I really not ready to go yet! :fear2:* Bonnie I have to agree with Hondo if you watch "McLintock, Hatri, Donovan's Reef and of course The Angel and the Badman" a great love story :wub:* and I had a small part in that film and I was only a few years older than you at that time. If you watch these films you will have a lot of Good Clean Fun :lol:* and see Duke at his Best. :cowboy:
But remember what my Grandmother told me when I was your age. That most of these old John Wayne Films "ARE JUST MAKE-BELIEVE" :ph34r:* and not the real thing!!! Chilibill :cowboy:
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William T Brooks April 23rd, 2005, 03:26 PM Angel; I was 16 years old and was one of the bad guys :ph34r: at the first of the film ridding after Duke, one of the people giving Duke the Bible at the Church Meeting, :rolleyes: one of the bad guys when Duke and his Friends steal the Cattle from the Bad Men, :ph34r: and one of the people in the Town when Duke came into Town after the Bad guys at the end of the Film. :fear2: Chilibill :cowboy:
You can go to this Site for the story about The Angel and the Badman! BADMAN (http://wyntoontrip.com/BADMAN1.html)
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