Like most of us, when you've seen a Duke movie," hundreds" of times, and spotted all the familiar faces, it's also fun, to spot the bloopers!
The Official JOHN WAYNE Reference Book, has a couple of pages, relating to them.however, it would take too long,, to type them all on this post!!
But here's some,The films mentioned are:-
RED RIVER.(The chuck wagon, with and without a hole in the canvas!)
THE SEARCHERS.(When the rock is moved, the Indian breathes!)
THE BARBARIAN AND THE GEISHA GIRL(Camera shutters, clicking, in the fight scene!)
THE ALAMO(What yellow bus?)(and Travis, does move his hand?)
NORTH TO ALASKA,(I've mentioned the wig, in another post)
THE COMMANCHEROS(The spinning, and not spinning wheel, and Dukes rifle hands)
THE MAN WHO SHOT LIBERTY VALANCE(Shirt, continuity)
THE SONS OF KATIE ELDER(The explosion on the counter)
THE WAR WAGON(Hat on, hat off)
TRUE GRIT(Film reverse, on the famous shoot out!)
RIO LOBO(Chuck,substituting Duke)
BIG JAKE(Three of them, including, camera shutters, clicking!)
ROOSTER COGBURN(Dukes coat on one scene, off another!)

There are a few more, in the films above, I've not included!!

This is by no means, the lot, but if you have anymore, it would be
fun, looking for them

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I have seen that scene where "Travis" moves his hand after being killed. If I too were already dead, i'd hate to have my hand stomped on. ;-) But seriously, yep, I had noticed that in The Alamo as well as the big pieces of "wall" blowing away in the breeze.

One of the silliest bloopers was in EL DORADO when Mississippi jumped in front of the charging horses, you can clearly see the frame jump when they cut to get him out and move the dummy in that the horses run over. One of the dummy's arms was in a completely different position from Mississippi.

Another bad one is in HONDO when stunt double Chuck is riding the horse around the ring to break it, and for whatever reason, they let him ride right past the camera for a full face shot, and its clear to anyone with eyes that this guy doesn't look anything like the Duke.

Similarly, in CHISUM, when the Duke fights with the bad guy at the end, they allow way too many close-up shots of the stunt double so that its easily obvious when its the Duke, and when its the double.

Yes, Ringo and General, I remember those too, I can see Chucks expression now!
That frame in EL DORADO, was also poor.
Here's some more, from The JW Ref. Book, for anyone that hasn't seen it;-

RED RIVER- Clift knocks, Dukes hat off, cuts to Brennan, then knocks the same hat off
again!
THE SEARCHERS- One minute, Martin Pawley, is one-eighth Cherokee,the next, he is
one-quarter Cherokee!
THE ALAMO- When Crockett and Travis have a drink in the cantina,a Tennessean, is
knocked down by the fireplace, in the next scene, he has disappeared!
When the attack begins, Bowie, fires his rifle, and you can see the wire
on the stock, causing, the simulated gunfire!
When the final attack begins, an explosion, causes some men, to jump
off the wall, on to some visible mattresses!
As the battle concludes, the Mexicans, jump over a palisade, in the next
scene, they haven't got there!
Before Crockett is stabbed by the Mexican lance, he already has the
blood stain on his shirt, from a previous take!
When Crockett, throws the torch into the front of some powder kegs, the
the explosion comes from the rear!
Great films, but also good fun, to look at these! More later!!

Another one that I spotted is in EL DORADO. When Wayne first meets Mississippi and Nelse McLeod, he is standing with a drink, and McLeod is sitting at a table. As they speak, Wayne gestures to Mississippi, and if you look closely, you see that he slopped a good amount of his drink all over the floor. - GSP

Rio Grande was when Maureen OHara was helping to tip over the wagon after the Indians had taken the Children and a Trroper fired his rifle close to her head and she turned and gave him a nasty look.

Thanks General, and Harold, hadn't spotted those, but will be looking for them now!
I still can't see that Yellow bus though!!!
Here's a couple more from The JW Ref Book;-

THE COMANCHEROS- Duke runs to the wagon, for a better position, and the wheel
is still,
In the next scene it is spinning, again
When fleeing the camp, a film reversal, shows, Duke
firing his rifle, first left-handed, and then right!
THE MAN WHO SHOT LIBERTY VALANCE- The days of DUKE double breasted shirts,
In the bar he's shown in a dark shirt, when he arrives at the
ranch, he's in a lighter shade, inside his house, it's a dark
shade, When Woody Strode, carries him out of the house, it's
the light one again,and when Duke is in the wagon, it's the
dark one again!
BIG JAKE- As mentioned, there were three in this film:- When Duke is
saving the sheep herder, a rider approaches him, almost
giving him a message, but because of bad editing, the
scene shows the rider, not near him yet!
In the fist fight, between Duke and Patrick, continuity, are not
aware of Patricks shirt tails, in/out/in/out

ANYONE GOT ANY MORE?

Just thought of one similar to yours Harold!
in THE SANDS OF IWO JIMA, I think it's John Agar, who fires off a rifle, and the"dead" man next to him, jumps a mile!!

It's hard to be critical of those early films, considering, the technology they had available, and I would think continuity was un-heard of! Having said that, it seems there's less Bloopers in the early films, than in the films we've already mentioned!
Here's three to look for:-

BABY FACE-although Duke was only in this film a couple of minutes. Look out in the office scenes, the walk-ons are momentarily standing still, maybe by a door way etc, waiting for action!! Poor editing, catches them, suddenly spurred into motion!

THE BIG TRAIL- This is one of my personal favourite bloops! Just watch Ward Bonds mouth, when he's in dialogue scenes. It seems Ward has been so diligent in learning his
script, he's learnt everyone elses as well. Look carefully, when someone else in the cast is talking, Wards lips are mouthing their words, with perfect timing!!

THE LAWLESS FRONTIER- The one when Gabby, hides his daughter in a sack and puts her on a mules back, to escape, the amorous bandit. In earlier chase scenes, before the mule is required, they keep passing this same mule, tied up, with sack in place,
obviously grazing, waiting for his cue, later on!

I don't believe Ward Bond was in the Big Trail. I just verfied that he wasn't in the IMDB.com. Which character in the film are you talking about? GSP

Hi General,
Ward Bond certainly was in THE BIG TRAIL, he wore a beard,and was Sid Bascom. Refer to IMDB,Ward Bond,Film 253,1930,it shows Ward as uncredited.!THE COMPLETE FILMS OF JOHN WAYNE,THE OFFICIAL JOHN WAYNE REFERENCE BOOK show him in the cast list!

I still wonder why everybody believes IMDB is the Holy Bible - it's made up by people who often write their opinions, not their knowledge. Trust the BOOKS! At least they are double-checked.

Ethan, you certainly know your stuff! Having watched even the B-movies lots of times to catch these bloopers.

If interested in bloopers in general, visit [Only registered and activated users can see links] It's a lot of fun. Here's one from Sands of Iwo Jima I found there:

Factual error: During the scene where Stryker is fighting with Forrest Tucker, an officers staff car pulls up. The car appears to be a 1946 or later Dodge or Plymouth, which was not yet manufactured.

And another thing about Iwo Jima: Wayne gets killed, he lies on his back. Then comes the shot of Forrest Tucker, looking down at him. Tuckers POV: Stryker is now lying on his belly. Somebody must've turned him over, right? (probably the guys from the FIRST flagraising on Surabachi, if you know what I mean :) )

Thanks itdo,

I never use IMBD, as they've often miss many films! Books are best!
Thanks for the ones about SANDS.
However, being a limey,means I wouldn't have spotted the car!!!,
but when I watch it for the 101th. time!!(Sad people we are, or are we?) I'll look out for Strykers scene.

One more blooper I noticed in Sands of Iwo Jima was when the Marines were in the Landing Craft and in the one with John Wayne & Co in it on the front inside you see a message in white that says: "It's Too late To Worry Now" and if you notice that in different takes, the same words are there but the phrase is broken up differently.

Hi Ringo,

That's a good one! The funny thing is,the way we're going, next time we watch the films, we'll be spending more time, looking for the bloopers, then following the film, and story line! Mind you, some of us, have watched them that many times, we could write the story line!!! It just makes watching them, all that more enjoyable.

hey...My bad on Ward Bond in Big Trail. I don't have any of those books, so I have to rely on imdb.com. I do have "John Wayne: American" which is a good book, but its not exhaustive in cast lists, etc.

Now I will have to watch Big Trail again to look for Bond. GSP

I have watched the scene many times from The Searchers and I have never been able to detect the indian breathing. But, my eyesight is not what it used to be, either.


-ncb

Hi General,

JOHN WAYNE-THE AMERICAN, cast list is pretty poor, DUKE-the Life and Image of John Wayne, Ronald L.Davis, a great book, Ward's in the cast list on that one too.

General, when you watch it again, Ward is really funny, he's like ,miming the words!

Just thought of two more major production Bloopers! that could have turned out better!

IN HARMS WAY- Who on earth, sanctioned the final battle scene to be models! It spoilt in my opinion, a brilliant film. They would have been better, not to have bothered,even Kirk Douglas, said so at the time, he didn't like the end at all!. The models were obvious, no one scurrying around on the ships etc.

ROOSTER COGBURN- The river raft scene, the long shots, with the women obviously replaced by men with wigs, the positions on the raft, on the studio close ups, not matching with the live shots, it all seemed so wrong! Fun watching though!

We've had some May sun today! it's been rare in England so far!!

Hi Nathan,

The whole scene in THE SEARCHERS, is so funny! The rock is lifted off the Indian, and he almost breathes a sigh of relief, as if to say" Thank God, that's been moved"
Then after Duke, does what a man has to do, Mose Harper goes into an Indian war dance, only to get told off by Duke!

The key to watching the "dead" indian breathing is to watch his chest. Hands are folded, and you can see the chest rise quickly and then back down.

Hi Ethan E. thank you. Heh heh, you hit the nail on the head with what you said. That very same thing goes for me on war movis as well--looking for accuracy in their uniforms, weapons, medals and badges etc. :cowboy:

Hi Ringo and itdo,

Many thanks for you replies on this post, it's turning out alot of fun!
I wonder how many more will surface? it's seem just a handful of films
at the moment, but the must be lots out there.
Has anyone, seen any Bloopers, in say The Quiet Man, and all the others?
Let's get spotting! Ha ha!

Itdo,
Thanks, that movie mistakes site was brilliant, there's even more in The Alamo,and Big Jake, I've never noticed

According to the documentary on the Quiet Man, something funny at the beginning is explainable. If you remember the opening scene when the train arrives and stops at the station, you see the door open, and Wayne gets out, and then you see him take an apple out of his pocket and point it to someone inside the train. That was in response to a scene that was cut from the film where they show Wayne talking to a boy on the train, and the boy gave him an apple. Unfortunately, there were many scenes in the Quiet man that were cut for the sake of shortening the film.

Hi General, thanks,

I read about that scene, being cut, amongst others, was the scene, when Ward Bond approached Barry Fitzgerald, in his carriage,with Duke, and said he wanted a word with him. The scene that followed, was cut, it was about his gambling debts!
The famous scene the wedding night, in the bedroom, was banned in Ohio, for being, impetuous!.
John Ford was told by, Herbert J.Yates to shorten the film by 9 minutes.Ford, not wanting to cut anything, instaed chopped, the 9 minutes off the end, while he was watching the preview!!! Ford got his way!

THE SEARCHERS- It's hard to find anything in this, the great film!
However here's a rare one, for my friends,who have supported this post, itdo, Ringo, General, Nathan and Harold.
In the opening scene, a Navajo blanket is seen right beside Debbie, in a later shot, it's moved to a hitching post, in front of the house, then later on, it's gone altogether!!

I think the hitching post at the beginning of the Searchers is fine I checked this and there does not seem to be an error.

When Pawley pulls his knife on the Duke it switches hands between cuts but in some versions you cannot see this.

Duke calling Pawley a 1/4 cherekee after the viewers finding out he is 1/8 is not a mistake it is simply illustrating Ethans ignorance of ethinic minorities.

Theres a good mistake in the Alamo(Don't tell Roland) when Duke is informed near the end to guard the north wall he accidently walks on the head of a dead texican.

At the end of Katie Elder Duke fires too many bullets without reloading.

When he is dragged into the water in the same movie by his brothers his son John Ethan can vaguely be heard to scream in the background.

There is a giant mistake in the undefeated in the fact that it was ever made!!

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Hi Robbie,

Here's a good one for you!
In SHE WEARS A YELLOW RIBBON, THE narrator says Custer is dead!
As we know he died on June 25th. 1876.
On Dukes calender, which he's constantly marking,
the date is March 6th 1876!!

The one in THE SEARCHERS is also quoted in -Analysis of The Searchers in William Luhr and Peter Lehman , AUTHORSHIP AND NARRATIVE IN THE CINEMA (New York.1977)

How about just a couple more Production Bloopers!!

TYCOON- Bad Film, even worse special effects,how Duke turned from a normal bloke, into a crazy man, no one will ever know!
It's probably because he got hit on top of the head with the crane!
The model train and bridge scene was awful, and would have been better left out, the dummy on the centre span(Duke), his arm doesn't move etc.

HELLFIGHTERS- When Duke is in his office, they have a backdrop of the window, and the highway beyond!! It is so dreadful, as a model treadmill, all the cars go past the window at the same speed! A red station waggon goes past the window, 15-17 times!!
Vera Miles, drives out the airport, and reverses, without braking, and changing gear

THE GREEN BERETS- Duke could have done without this, but the Sun really does set, over the wrong ocean!!!

If something goes wrong in a scene and stays in because it adds some reality, I wouldn't call it a blooper. Directors such as Ford and Hawks often staged a scene in which only some of the actors would have their lines, and the others would have to react and improvise. That gives a scene a freshness. If a trooper shoots a rifle and distracts Maureen O'Hara, for instance. If Wayne wanted the finale of the Green Berets with a dramatic sundown, I'm sure he knew it was geographically false. But here's one you'll enjoy - as a mistake. Spoilers ahead! Once you've read this, you'll always be looking at this scene differently.

You've been warned...!

Still here...?

OK. This is from Hatari!

In the very first rhino scene, behind the windshields of Pocket's car, you'll spot DALLAS in one single shot! Although she isn't even in the film yet - obviously some stock footage they used because it fit just right into the cutting of this particular scene. And that's what I mean: I'm sure they noticed that when they put it together. But because the scene is edited just right this way, and that shot is really short, they must've said: Nobody's ever going to notice. They didn't know about freeze-frame and VCR back then.

Good one itdo,

I agree, some of the Bloopers, were put in intenionally by the companies,
especially at the end of EL DORADO, when Duke and Mitch, are walking down the street, with the crutches, under the wrong arms, limping on the wrong legs!
They even joke about it!
However, I can't seriously believe, they put awful models and special affects in on purpose! Some of the bloopers, are also, a case of poor editing, so much so, these days, if a film, gets a lot of stick, for one, they eradicate it on the master, for when it's re-issued.
That site, you related to me," movie mistakes",mentions the Indiana Jones film, that was pulled, to be re-mastered, when the Cobra, ,was obviously, behind a saftey glass!

There is a nonsense rumour going around that an extra in the wizard of oz killed himself and he can be seen doing so in the movie I think it is when Dorothy meets the Tin Man. In actual fact however what is happening in the background is that a bird has spread its wings, I find that very ammusing that anybody would mistake that for somebody killing themself.

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:) Hi Ethan, quite welcome.

Good discussion here regarding what is a TRUE blooper. I often think of The Searchers, and the scene where Pat Wayne charges into the house to deliver the message from Col. Greenhill. According to Pat's own testimony, the entire scene could be consider by some to be a "blooper" because no one was saying their lines, and everyone was interrupting him when he was trying to say his. All of those interruptions by Ward Bond and Duke Wayne were NOT in the script--but it was great stuff and by no means a blooper. I guess for me, I would have a high standard to declare something a "blooper," for instance, clear factual errors, like the Custer death/Duke Calendar, and the terrible editing of the dummy/Mississippi scene in El Dorado, and the dead Indian breathing in The Searchers.

GSP

This was kind of a fun thread to read! I noticed one blooper in El Dorado that most don't catch. When Mitchum goes to the saloon to get his nightly bottle. When he leaves the saloon, the hat brim is curled up. Duke stops him in front of the jail and berates him and Mitchum says they laughed at him. The next scene is from behind Mitchum as he walks toward the jail, and the brim is curled down. Then the next scene is from in front of Mitchum as he enters the jail and the brim is curled up again!

I don't mind the bloopers, as they show that everyone is fallable to some degree, and no one is perfect. I really don't think they take away from the film at all. El Dorado is still a great film!
Colorado Bob

hi all

dont know if this could be classed as a blooper but when you watch Operation Pacific when they are showing the torpedos running you can tell that they are being pulled with a wire as you can see it clearly attached to the front of the torpedo along this line you can also tell that this scene was shot in a tank as you can see the shadows on the back wall of the tank.

also in operation pacific duke gets hurt in the right shoulder when he goes and lies down he lays on this shoulder.

hooroo smokey

Hi every one. Just watched Rio Grande again this weekend. I Have a little continuity blooper to add to list.

Through the early part of movie the Duke's suspenders show a hole On right side chest . This is the result of the arrow wound he receives at the end of the rescue mission. Obviously filmed out of sequence.

PS Love reading all the great info and comments from other members.

Durham Cowboy

Hi everyone,
It's great to read the new additions to this thread,
and thanks to Arthur, who spotted a big one
on The Commancheros.
Thanks Arthur,Bob, smokey, and Durham cowboy.
As Bob says, it doesn't spoil the film at all,
I think it makes them all that more interesting to watch!

Best Wishes,
Keith

Hi,
There is one mention in the audio commentary to the Stagecoach about the shadow of the camera which is clearly seen during crossing the river.
Regards,
Senta :rolleyes:

There is a nice little blooper in the Searchers, when Duke is scalping Scar at the end of the movie, he is also outside the teepee on his horse shooting.

Rio Bravo has the famous bullet hole appearing and disappearing beside Rick Nelson during the final shootout.

One of my favourite bloopers is in the Alamo, during the final battle Duke accidentally stands on the head of a dead Alamo defender.

GSP,

I have seen the Quiet man many times, but I do not remember Duke with an apple getting of the train, can you enlighten me?

Robbie
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Originally posted by Robbie@Oct 8 2006, 09:41 PM
GSP,

I have seen the Quiet man many times, but I do not remember Duke with an apple getting of the train, can you enlighten me?

Robbie
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Hi Robbie,

Hey this one should be in your topic,
the scene were he was given the apple on the train
was edited out!!

Originally posted by Robbie@Oct 8 2006, 10:41 PM


I have seen the Quiet man many times, but I do not remember Duke with an apple getting of the train, can you enlighten me?

Robbie
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Hi Robbie,
He trows the apple up in the air when he gets off the train and then says thanks to whoever was in the train.Blink and you missed it ;)
Liliane

Hi,

Thanks. for new Bloopers, that have been added.
It may be of interest, that all the Movie Reviews,
now include any Bloopers/Goofs,
so when you click on any film, it's all included, in there.

However, if you have any special one's,
then add then here

Hi Keith

In Hondo the stuntman is really obvious in the scene at the ranch in which the horse is being broke in.

Robbie
:agent:

Morning Robbie,

Yes you're right.
I froze the frame, when the double is looking straight at camera,
is appears to be Chuck Roberson.

Incidently, thanks for your remarks,
in your 'Dead Topics' post

I have over the last few days, consolidated lots of 'cross'
threads, into main topics, and it has tidied it up significantly.
The main problem, is the starting of new threads,
without noting, what's gone on before.

Hi Keith

No problem you are welcome, your hard work on this messageboard certainly deserves some praise.

Robbie
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Hello Keith,

I think I found a blooper that hasn't been mentioned anywhere I've seen before. :teeth_smile:

I was watching The Three Godfathers last night (for about the tenth time) and I noticed something that I missed before. The baby is supposed to be a boy, Robert William Pedro Hightower. But when the Godfathers decide to grease the baby down, you can clearly see that the baby is a girl. I have three sons and three daughters, so I've changed many a diaper in my time (some really stinky ones :vomit: ). That baby they use in the grease scene is a girl. So, did I find a new blooper? I never found one myself. :hyper:

Mark

Hi gang. I don't know how I missed this one before. I love spotting bloopers in movies and here are a couple that I don't think have been mentioned here.

In True Grit, in the scene where Mattie is sitting between Cogburn and La Boeuf, and they are arguing with each other, you'll notice that when LB is talking, Mattie is cuddled up to him and when Cogburn is talking, Mattie has all of a sudden slid her chair right next to him.

Just watched this one last night. In North to Alaska, in the scene where Duke leaves Angel alone in the picnic scene, her dress completely covers up her leg. When another man shows up to talk to her, she is now showing some knee.

A funny blooper that is not in a John Wayne movie is one I spotted in 'The Naked Spur'.

After Robert Ryan's character guns Jessie down, Ryan and his on screen girlfriend move to the top of the mountain to watch for the oncoming Stewart. While Ryan is surveying the terrain for his vantage point Jessie's mule comes over and licks Jessie on the face, the character who plays Jessie moves his face quite abruptly, he was obviously both startled and surprised by the actions of the mule.

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