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itdo May 23rd, 2003, 10:45 AM The "Gremlin" question made me think: maybe we could list any film in which John Wayne is referred to or cut into. I'll start with these:
We already discussed "Gremlins" (the sequel): Clips from The Cowboys and Cahill are intercut to make it look like JW is talking to and shooting it out with the Gremlins.
"E.T": The Extra Terristial watches "The Quiet Man" at home, and therefore his little human friend acts like John Wayne at the same time at school. Note that composer John Williams uses Max Steiners theme from the Quiet Man in this sequence (in Steven Spielberg's "1941", John Williams again uses the Quiet man score in the fight scene between Army and Navy)
"Star Wars": In the very first film (please don't expect that I know which Episode this is) Luke Skywalker returns in a hurry to the farm in the desert only to find out that his family has been murdered, the farm is in fire. He does some soul-searching after that (meaning: he wants to become a Jedi). George Lucas is a great admirer of The Searches. This hommage became even clearer in the latest Episode of Star Wars:
"Attack of the Clones": In a shot similar in composition to The Searchers, Annakin Skywalker watches the (Indian) camp in which his mother is held, from above (George Lucas even made it look like this galaxy far, far away could be Monument valley), and then sneaks in to even the score with them Comanche aliens.
In "The Stuntman" (in which Peter O'Toole plays a mad director) somebody asks a woman wearing boots if she's got them from John Wayne.
In the final confrontation of "Die Hard" the villain tells Bruce Willis that this time "John Wayne won't ride into the sunset with Grace Kelly", and Willis teaches him that this would be Gary Cooper. Reason enough to shoot the bad guy.
In "Viva Max!" Peter Ustinov visits the Alamo in San Antonio (he is a Mexican General planning to re-take the Alamo). He takes a sightseeing tour and is told (as they pass the Reynold Brown painting which was used for the poster of the JW film) that John Wayne was portraying Davy Crockett. As the story progresses Ustinov decides to use this as a password after he has taken The Alamo: Everybody who wants to get in is asked: John Wayne - and has to answer: Richard Widmark. Lots of people in Texas didn't find this film all that funny.
In "The Deer Hunter", when DeNiro is on a hunting trip, he says to one of his friends who's only carrying a handgun that he looks like John Wayne (JW presented the Oscar for Best Picture of the year to The Deer Hunter - but personally didn't care for it very much).
In "The Brink's Job", Peter Falk is robbing a bank and tells his boys that they must crawl now, "like John Wayne in Sands of Iwo Jima".
In "Full Metal Jacket", Matthew Modine does a very bad imitation of JW, saying "Is that John Wayne - or is it me?" several times.
In "Short Circuit", the robot watches Angel and the Badman at TV.
In "Bird Cage", gay Robin Williams gives his gay friend a little piece of advice: He should move like John Wayne to look like a man.
In "The Appartment" (which stole the Best Picture oscar away from The Alamo that year) Jack Lemmon gets home after a hard day's work, wants to watch TV - but finds that only John Wayne flics are on! If you look closely, the clips are from Stagecoach and Angel and the Badman.
In "The Last Picture Show" (directed by Ford's admirer Peter Bogdanovich) the film shown in the movie theater is Red River.
In "Cinema Paradiso" one of the films the Italian kids watch is Stagecoach.
Them's all I can think of right now. Anybody out there can add a few more titles?
Robbie May 23rd, 2003, 11:09 AM The rival between vader and sywalker is supposed to resemble that of clift and the Duke in Red River.
Taxi Driver is a direct remake of the Searchers.
Witness is a remake of Angel and the Badman
B)
AEC23 May 23rd, 2003, 09:35 PM I'm a little confused about your last post. I don't see the connection between Taxi Driver and the Searchers. :)
Robbie May 25th, 2003, 01:03 PM Taxi Driver is virtually a direct remake of the Searchers of course it is inferior.
The verteran soldier showing up at the start both from the losing side.
The main character in the story is the bad guy Duke and Di niro
The main characters are both social outcasts
There are quite a fer others you may need to watch both movies again I think you have overlooked a few thing
P.s. Kevin the bold button on the messageboard as of late hasnt been working
B)
itdo June 1st, 2003, 03:58 AM Bumping this to the top because I was hoping to get more replies on this one.
Remember, the original question was: in which films were clips of JW films used or was he referred to. After some more hard thinking, I can come up with some more:
In "Back to the Future", when Michael J. Fox finds himself in the Fifties and telling "Doc" that Ronald Reagan is president of the US in the Eighties he gets a laugh: "And who is the Vice President - Jerry Lewis? Then JW must be Chief of Defense!"
In "The Color of Money" Paul Newman presents Tom Cruise with a special Billard queue, and he answers: this would be one for JW.
Tom Cruise again: In "Born on the Fourth of July", after being injured in Vietnam, he discusses with his friend why they had believed in all this JW stuff (this is directly from Ron Kovic's book: He joined the Marines because he was inspired from Sands of Iwo Jima).
In Blazing Saddles the black sheriff stops the town exodus by telling the people to give him 24 hours to find the baddie - and they should remember John Wayne. The response isn't great, so he adds they should do it for Randolph Scott then.
In Spies Like Us, Dan Aykroyd rides to the rescue of Chevy Chase in Rooster Cogburn manner (Elmer Bernstein did the score), shooting two guns. He wants to pick up Chase but Chase can't do the trick and they both fall flat. So Aykroyd accuses him he'd never seen a JW picture?
In American Werewolf the two American boys get into an argument over The Alamo with some English townspeople who tell them that they don't care much for JW.
In Midnight Cowboy Dustin Hoffman tells Jon Voight that the Cowboy outfit will only attract gays. Voight is embarrassed and only answers: "John Wayne!" (funny thing is, they were both nominated for the Academy Award - Wayne won for True Grit)
In "Overboard" one of Kurt Russell's sons imitates JW.
In "The Man with Bogart's Face" the private eye who has a resemblence with Bogie hits the leading lady. When she asks him why: JW did the same thing with Ward Bond in Hondo: To mislead the enemy, hit a friend.
In "1941" Slim Pickens is tortured by Toshiro Mifune and his Japanes henchmen to tell them where Hollywood is. He won't tell - because he fears they might bomb John Wayne and Frank Sinatra.
That's all for one - anybody can think of some more?
:rolleyes:
chester7777 June 1st, 2003, 09:56 AM Wow, you have seen a lot of movies, itdo, and have a great recall for detail!
Are there any you haven't mentioned, that you're hoping someone else will share? Of the ones you listed, I've only seen four. Are you a movie critic (either for real, or self-appointed)? I am continually amazed at all you know! I haven't been as much of a John Wayne fan over many years as I am now, so perhaps I would notice those things more now as I am watching other movies.
Chester
itdo June 1st, 2003, 11:02 AM ooops, you got me there, Chester. yes, I'm also working as a filmcritic (there ARE only self-appointed film-critics!) for press and TV.
but no, I'm not holding some titles back, I hope you guys out there pitch in and name a few I don't know yet.
another one comes to mind:
In "Weird Science" two guys hide in a closet when the bad guys enter their house. Kelly LeBroc (whatever happend to this Woman in Red?) opens the door and reminds them that this ain't the JW way to deal with danger.
dukefan1 June 1st, 2003, 12:23 PM In The Supranos on HBO, in at least 2 episodes, Tony was watching Red River on tv. In The Dead Poets Society with Robin Williams, he quotes Duke doing Julius Ceasar "Is that a dagger I see befor me?" And in the TV show M*A*S*H, Radar did several impressions of Duke in different episodes (including the "I ain't gonna hit ya" quote from McLintock). These are some that come to my mind. dukefan1
Hondo Duke Lane June 1st, 2003, 07:13 PM :angry:
If you noticed on the M*A*S*H TV series with Radar, he uses that Duke impression of McLintock line with the movie released in 1963, and the Korean War was 1951-1953. What a Flub-Dub that was to make and I caught that the very first time I saw that.
:rolleyes:
I'm glad that you brought that up on your post dukefan1.
Hondo B)
chester7777 June 1st, 2003, 11:01 PM Hondo,
I can't believe I didn't realize that mistake when I was reading about it (not being much of a M*A*S*H watcher, I don't recall ever having ever seen those particular episodes). That is too funny.
Thanks for pointing it out.
As I have said in an earlier post, I think I missed many of the things referred to here, because I wasn't as much of a John Wayne fan as I am now. I think I would pick up on that type of thing much more if I saw the same thing today.
Cheers!
Chester
Robbie June 2nd, 2003, 06:00 PM In a John Travolta film, the bad guy is watching a movie when travolata creeps up on him, travolata remarks "hes watching Rio Bravo". Later in the same movie the bad guy states this isnt Rio Bravo with John Wayne and Robert Mitchum shooting the bad guys". Travolata then goes about correcting his mistake
B)
Robbie June 2nd, 2003, 06:05 PM Heres another Kurt Russell imitates Duke in the Escape from New York movies. The director wanted to tamper with the idea "what if John Wayne was dumb?" and Kirt Russells character is the result all I can say is that its not great!
B)
itdo June 3rd, 2003, 12:36 AM Right, the Travolta film was Get Shorty.
AEC23 June 10th, 2003, 05:52 PM Just to add another Duke movie reference. In City Slickers, the older dentist refers to a scene from Red River. They call it the yeehaw scene, when the cowboys are leaving for the cattle drive. :lol:
itdo June 11th, 2003, 12:13 PM City Slickers, that's right - great hommage. Did you know that it's the same director of photography who shot City Slickers that's workin on the new version of The Alamo right now? I liked the way he handled Slickers, am looking for to see his new work.
dukefan1 June 22nd, 2003, 06:01 PM I like this subject and sure there are many more of them, so let's bump this to the top and see. In Band Of Brothers, right before the invasion of Normandy, the soldiers of Easy Company are watching Seven Sinners on a screen set up in a tent. Anyone else know any more? dukefan1
itdo June 23rd, 2003, 02:14 AM Oh yes, and one of the soldiers is trying to act like JW: "The costume department... set me up with this uniform..."
(but if I remember correctly, this doesn't happen in the original book by Stephen Ambrose, so Spielberg must've taken his revenge for "1941" - in which JW refused to play the General watching "Dumbo" for him!)
chester7777 June 26th, 2003, 12:37 AM How about the Jackie Chan movie Shanghai Noon??
His character is . . . Chon Wen . . . . Pretty funny movie!
:lol:
Chester
Hondo Duke Lane June 26th, 2003, 06:35 PM In "Die Hard," the villian uses the phrase, John Wayne does not ride in the sunset with Grace Kelly, and Bruce Willis says, that's Gary Cooper you itiot. This is not a direct quote but something like that.
In the early part of the movie, the villian refers to Willis as a cowboy like John Wayne, and Willis responses that he's partial to Roy Rogers.
Well, you get the message. I don't have the movie on VHS or DVD, so I am going on memory.
Cheers, Hondo B)
itdo June 30th, 2003, 06:04 AM One more that came to mind:
In the bloody climax of "Natural Born Killers" Woody Harrelson is using a line from Rio Bravo when he shoots Robert Downey jr.:
"Let's make some music, Colorado!"
itdo July 1st, 2003, 04:50 AM I found another one, from the Magnum-series. Goes like that:
HIGGINS: As Winston Churchill said, a man has to do what a man has to do.
MAGNUM: I thought John Wayne said that.
HIGGINS: If he did, he stole it from Winnie!
Robbie July 1st, 2003, 12:55 PM Roland this may seem completely off the beaten track but John Wayne invented the antihero cowboy motivated slightly by money etc in the Searchers something which Clint Eastwood copied and brought into his own westerns you can be the judge of this statements relevance.
cya later
B)
BrianB July 2nd, 2003, 01:35 AM As time goes on we will continue to see moveis and TV shows refer to the "Duke". I can recall a very funny Japanese comic doing John Wayne in Kobe Japan around 1977 in complete japanese. It was so funny.
Brian
Tulalip Wa
itdo July 2nd, 2003, 02:13 AM To keep this topic going, here's another one I could think of:
In "Donnie Brasco", starring Pacino and Johnny Depp, which is set in 1979, the principal players learn that JW has just died.
Now I don't remember the exact lines, but it's something like:
"John Wayne dead - this couldn't be."
"Maybe the indians killed him!"
itdo July 22nd, 2003, 10:33 AM To bring this topic to the top again, I keep looking for JW references:
In Spielberg's "The Lost World" (Jurassic Parc Part II) the dino-catchers use the same technique as Sean Mercer to catch wildebeest in "Hatari!", and Spielberg's hommage to Hawks is obvious: in one shot he even uses the same perspective.
Monique July 22nd, 2003, 10:52 AM itdo,
If you watch the making of"The Lost World" they state they watched "Hatari!" several times in the planning phase :rolleyes:
Monique ;)
AEC23 July 22nd, 2003, 01:12 PM Here is another reference to the Duke in new movies. I was watching a Guy Thing the other night. One of the characters tells everyone when they come to his house that he is a huge Duke fan. There is a scene later on in the movie where the whole family eats gravy with hash in it, and they start doing very poor impressions of the Duke. It's a pretty funny scene.
Robbie July 22nd, 2003, 03:39 PM In the Midnight Cowboy Jon Voight put on a cowboy hat in front of the mirror and says John Wayne.
Later on in the movie somebody states that Jon Voight is gay for dressing up as a cowboy, voight replies that John Wayne dressed like this and you wouldnt call him gay.
Duke hated this movie but admired the acting and in 1970 he beat off competion from both Jon Voight and Dustin Hoffman for their performances in "The Midnight Cowboy" to win an oscar for best acting for his performance in "True Grit".
B)
itdo July 23rd, 2003, 04:47 AM yes-yes, but Midnight Cowboy I already named in the post above - let's find new ones!
Robbie July 24th, 2003, 07:27 PM I ran midnight cowboy through the search engine but nothing came up so I presumed it hadnt been used.
Now Itdo heres a few more. In emerdale marlon starts giving trisha a few orders and trisha replies why are you acting like this have you been watching a John Wayne movie.
Also in Emmerdale Zak tells Lisa to get out of his house and off hsi land and she replies who do you think you are John Wayne.
In Ultimate Force Ross Kemp copied John Waynes swagger.
And isnt it mean streets where ten minutes of the movies is devoted to talking about the searchers.
B)
itdo July 28th, 2003, 01:46 PM Director John Carpenter, who's an admirer of Howard Hawks, made one of his most controversial and brutal films, "Assault on Precint 13", a quasi-remake or hommage of Rio Bravo:
The lone inhabitants of an abandoned, police station are under attack by the overwhelming numbers of a seemingly unstoppable street gang. Looks like the Burdette boys are at it again! Quite a gory movie. I think Carpenter used "John T. Chance" as his own writer's credit.
itdo August 5th, 2003, 02:54 PM After some brainstorming I can bump my favorite topic to the top:
there's a crack about John Wayne in "The Survivors", a somewhat forgotten Robin Williams film in which he teamed up with Walter Matthau. Now I can't really remember the exact line but it's about Matthau and Williams leaving for the mountains, trying to survive - and obviously this inspires them to joke about JW. 20 year old movie, not really one to be remembered - except of course for this reference.
itdo September 11th, 2003, 02:05 AM Remembering one more film in which JW is referred to, I may bump that topic of mine to the top again:
In the 1984 "Angel" about a highschool girl who works as a hooker at night, we have old western stalwart Rory Calhoun as an over-the-hill stuntman who says something like (don't remember the exact line): JW was on of the tough guys - never used a double!
A Girl Named Jen September 11th, 2003, 08:37 AM Hi there Roland:
Since you bumped this up, I was able to view it and think of a movie with a JW reference. I didn't have time to read the entire thread, but I don't think this was mentioned.
There's a movie called Always starring Holly Hunter and Richard Dreyfuss. (I could be wrong but I believe this was also directed by Steven Spielberg; I guess he's quite the JW fan.) I won't give away the plot but there's a scene where HH is riding in a car with a hunky guy she's just met (the actor's name is Brad Johnson, just for the record). She gets mad about something and he puts on this kind of cheesy but still instantly recognizable JW voice: "You know, you're mighty pretty when you get angry, waha." I don't know what the "waha" is supposed to be but they say it a lot. (Did Duke ever say this?) Then they go back and forth with this and laugh call each other "pilgrim" and stuff like that. I guess this is a little homage to Duke and to The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance.
Thanks for a fun topic.
itdo September 11th, 2003, 09:12 AM You're absolutely rrrright about "Always", Jen!
The impersonation he did was so bad that Holly Hunter did not know at first who that was supposed to be.
Once you start thinking about these references, they pop up by the dozens!
Robbie September 14th, 2003, 04:03 PM Roland
I like this topic and here is another quote for you I hope it hasn't been used already.
In 'Patriot Games' Harrison Ford' was involved in a big shoot out he was later accused of 'going in there and doing a John Wayne on them', I'm sure you will be able to tidy this up a little.
:agent:
itdo September 18th, 2003, 06:05 AM OK, I found another one:
In Wim Wenders' film "The State of Things" (1981) there is a reference to The Searchers: It is the film that's being played at the local theatre, and in one scene somebody is just adjusting the letters of "Starring John Wayne" outside the theatre.
Robbie September 22nd, 2003, 05:39 AM Found a good one for you yesterday Roland.
Have you ever seen the James Bond movies 'The Man With The Golden Gun' and 'Live and Let Die'. There is a character in these movies called 'JW'(John Wayne) from Texas whom by what he says seems to be a characterture of John Wayne. I could be wrong what do you think?
:agent:
itdo September 22nd, 2003, 06:07 AM the only character appearing in those two 007-films outside the regulars is the police officer pepper - I myself can't recall a character like JW appearing in both films. Which part would that be?
Robbie September 22nd, 2003, 06:20 AM The police officers name was JW.
:agent:
itdo September 22nd, 2003, 06:39 AM Then I wouldn't say he was meant to be a reference. "Pepper" is one of the beloved sidekicks of the 007-series in his own right. The character is originally a Louisiana police officer, chewing tobacco, talking with a broad southern accent. And being RACIST! Nope, don't think they were thinking about Wayne when they created that hillbilly.
A Girl Named Jen September 22nd, 2003, 08:46 AM Oh dear. THAT guy. As I've told some of you before, I have family in Louisiana. Sure, they talk different from me, but they don't talk like that idjit! Honestly. I think for that movie they were just playing off some southern stereotypes - for example, that a good ol' southern boy would be named after John Wayne. And I daresay Duke is more popular in the South - where there are more people who are in line with his politics and who can identify more readily with some of the people, situations, and values in his films.
This is not to say that northern folks can't & don't like Duke (not at all!), just that I think there are probably more JW fans down south than there are up north.
itdo September 28th, 2003, 12:41 PM So I can pop up that favorite topic of mine again. Just seen an episode of "Married with Children" (don't know if this one has been pointed out before):
Al wants to catch "Hondo" on TV, and his worthless life depends on watching it. Needless to say, Peggy is going to make him wish once more he were dead. He puts on the TV when the film ends and a voice says it can be seen again in 2004 (probably not intended, but I hope Batjac saw that one)! When Al tells his fellow Americans about what once used to be good in the US, the film goes to black and white, a western sequence, in which Al appears as a very bad impersonation of John Wayne.
itdo October 19th, 2003, 10:28 AM On the DVD of "Lonsome Dove" there's an interview with the producer.
"Lonsome Dove" was originally scripted for Wayne, Jimmy Stewart and Henry Fonda, to be directed by Peter Bogdanovich. In the interview, the producer mentions that. "It was originally set for James Stewart (thinks).... Henry Fonda.... (thinks more)... and... (yes, go on!!)... oh, I forgot the other one."
Bah!
Robbie October 19th, 2003, 12:09 PM Roland
That sounds familiar to an interview that Clint Eastwood did over here. He was asked to name other actors from his era that he got ideas from when moulding his image. He stated Gary Cooper(pause) James Stewart(longer pause) Robert Mitchum(very long pause) and of course Fonda. I dont understand when he didn't state the Duke maybe he feels a little threatened as Duke is still very popular over here. I have noticed that Clint has bypased mentioning Duke quite a bit as of late where he could have been mentioned I don't understand why.
As for movies in the football movie Ronney Dukes name is mentioned by a boy who asks 'What are you doing all these John Wayne heroics for. Don't know if you already have this one.
cya
:agent:
duke10100ad October 21st, 2003, 07:29 PM well in the movie mean streets with robert deniro and havey kitel they go to the movie thereter and the movie the searchers is playing jw was not seen in the clip though because he would never star in a r rated film. futhmore that is the same reason why he did not make high plains drifter with clint eastwood because clint eastwood wanted jw to shoot some one in the back and jw would never do that. adam d 21 years old jw fan
itdo December 17th, 2003, 11:29 AM My favorite topic pops up again!
Saw "HANG UP" yesterday - Walter Matthau's last movie from the year 2000.
And guess what. He plays an oltimer with a memory of JW. At his sickbed he has a shot of him together with Wayne (apparently a montage of an earlier picture of Matthau and JW in the El Dorado period). Matthau's character also has a One-Sheet poster of LUCK RUNS OUT, starring JW. Never heard of that movie! But they sure wouldn't have made up a poster just for the background. It looked too real. So it might me a re-release title. Anyway, when the tearful end of Matthau comes, and Meg Ryan and Diane Keaton are at his deathbed, as he passes away he gets nostalgic and says something like: "John Wayne called!"
arthurarnell December 22nd, 2003, 03:49 AM Hi
Not sure about this one but in THE LAST PICTURE SHOW with Ben Johnsone isn't RED RIVER showing at the cinema when it closes.
Regards
Arthur
itdo December 22nd, 2003, 04:25 AM Right you are, Arthur - but this one was already on page one:
In "The Last Picture Show" (directed by Ford's admirer Peter Bogdanovich) the film shown in the movie theater is Red River.
Nevertheless: very approriate that Bogdanovich led Ben Johnson to an Acadamy Award for Best Supporting - since Bogdanovich is a Ford admirer (he wrote a very special book on the subject) and he was present as a reporter in Monument Valley when Ford directed Johnson in "Cheyenne Autumn".
itdo December 22nd, 2003, 06:24 AM In the new movie "S.W.A.T", Samuel L. Jackson's character's nickname is HONDO.
Hmmmm....
arthurarnell December 22nd, 2003, 10:43 AM Hi
at the risk of being strung up
In Repo Man (1983) and I quote
..and so when Miller (the yard man played by Tracy Walter) tells his tale of seeing John Wayne in drag, he immediately sets the entire gang against him in indignant disbelief. People are ragging Otto (Emilio Estevez) about his macho image, when he comes into the yard sporting a bruise on his face, Marlene asks the cop why he doesn't do something about it. Bud (Harry Dean Stanton) explains "Repo don't go running to the man, Marlene Repo man does it alone."
Marlene scoffs, "Just Like John Wayne!" Most join in a chorus of enthusiastic, solemn affirmation: Damn right! Just like John Wayne! What's wrong with that? Greatest American that ever lived! Then Miller says "John Wayne was a fag! All, even Marlene, are startled. They protest as one. The hell he was!" But Miller knows it's true, he saw the evidence: "I installed two way mirrors in his pad in Brentwood. And he came to the door in a dress." The lot owner misinterprets: "That doesn't mean he was a homo Miller! lots of guys like to watch their buddies ****! Don't you.
From John Wayne Actor Artist and Hero
p.s The authors views don't necessarily represent the views of this member.
A Girl Named Jen December 23rd, 2003, 07:58 AM I've always kind of wondered why Bogdanovich chose Red River and not a Ford western. I guess he just really liked the beginning of the ride in RR.
itdo January 10th, 2004, 03:23 AM To answer Wardell's question if "Witness" by Peter Weir, starring Harrison Ford as a cop hiding at the Amish people, was influenced by "Angel and the Badman":
In Tim Lilley's "Trail Beyond, Volume V", the screenwriter of The Shootist, Miles Hood Swarthout, states in an article about Wayne's best westerns:
"One of Witness' oscar-winning writers, William Kelley, admitted borrowing this premise."
Hondo Duke Lane January 10th, 2004, 09:07 AM Roland,
That's an interesting post with Witness. The ending of the movie is different to Angel and the Badman would be the ending. Duke stayed with the girl while Ford left her. And there is the difference in Ford was the cop or good guy, and Duke was the gunfighter or bad guy. But both were rough type men from tough backgrounds.
Cheers, Hondo :cool:
Hondo Duke Lane March 20th, 2004, 06:17 PM Originally posted by itdo@Dec 22 2003, 06:24 AM
In the new movie "S.W.A.T", Samuel L. Jackson's character's nickname is HONDO.
Hmmmm....
Roland,
That is interesting that you mention that in the post, but in the original series, there was a character named "Hondo", but interesting that he was named that in the TV series.
Hmmmm....
Cheers, Hondo B)
Hondo Duke Lane March 20th, 2004, 06:20 PM I just watched the movie, Man Without A Face. The movie is about 10 years old. and a Mel Gibson movie. The boy character refered to an idol or hero in John Wayne. There was a movie clip of Red River where Dunston (Wayne) was pushing around the character played by Montgomery Clift, and that's when he finally had enough and punched out Dunston.
Cheers, Hondo B)
itdo May 6th, 2004, 08:15 AM Have a chance to add to my favorite subject here:
Saw MALENA again yesterday, that magnificent Italian film by Giuseppe Tornatore. It plays in 1940, about a kid that madly falls in love with Monica Belucchi (that's the film that made her famous and led to Matrix). When he day-dreams about making love to her, he envisions to be the hero in black & white films in the cinema in his hometown where he spends a lot of time. One such sequence is cleary meant to be the stagecoach chase, the rear-projection-shot from the side, showing the whole stagecoach without horses. The kid is shooting out of the window, and then kissing the girl that looks like Dallas in this scene, played by Monica Belucchi. Great movie, especially if you can watch it in the original Italian!
itdo September 21st, 2004, 04:22 AM In THE WANDERERS, the film about gangs in NY that achieved some kind of cult following, when one of the gangs is bushwacked by another gang, one big fellow steps in and knocks everybody out. Next day in school, they thank him for doing a John Wayne.
itdo September 23rd, 2004, 10:34 AM In the "Making Of" of BACK TO THE FUTURE PART III, there's a nice outtake in which the actor playing Biff Tannen, now in western gear as a Liberty Valance parody, gets swept away by the moment and says: "Hey, Pilgrim!", then shaking his head and asking himself: "Pilgrim? Who am I, John Wayne?"
Hondo Duke Lane September 24th, 2004, 11:08 PM That's too funny, Roland! :teeth_smile: I have that disc, but haven't seen this yet.:punk: I'll have to get that out and find that scene. :fear: Thanks for that information, wish they used that in the movie. :punk:
Cheers :cool:
itdo October 12th, 2004, 07:17 AM In LITTLE BIG MAN, director Arthur Penn poked fun at western chliches. There is a very nice, subtle one: In the big stagecoach chase scene (done by Wayne-stalwart Hal Needham) the persons inside the coach all resemble the characters from the Ford film: there's a preacher-kind of type, a crying woman and, most of all, a gambler who was cast with a great look-alike of John Carradine. Then Jack Crabb (Dustin Hofmann's double) jumps to the leading horse, just as Yak Cannut did in the classic film.
itdo November 19th, 2004, 09:25 AM In this ongoing search about how the influence of John Wayne's image I may add another feature:
In his documentary, "Bowling for Columbine", Michael Moore uses a single shot from "Stagecoach", the charging cavalry bugler.
The Ringo Kid November 20th, 2004, 02:31 PM :cowboy: Back to "Back To The Future trilogy. Did the lead character not also mention John Waynes name in the 2nd of the trilogy. He was in some situation and he asked himself "What would John Wayne do in this situation?" or something like that. Also, This character called himself Clint Eastwood.
itdo December 27th, 2004, 05:42 AM On the newly released DVD of
THE NUTTY PROFESSOR
in the audio commentary, Jerry Lewis, who's also the director/writer of his comedy, mentions that in one scene, when his character of the rude "Buddy Love" dismisses some well-known musician, "it's like telling John Wayne how to be tough!"
The Ringo Kid December 27th, 2004, 04:12 PM :cowboy: I don't remember who's posting it was or on what site but, someone mentioned that they heard the words: "On the level" used Big Jake (which was true) and that they were said by Patrcik Wayne (which is true) but that the phrase was not used untill the late 1960's and early 1970's (which is somewhat true) but that the story of Big Jake, took place in 1909.
Well, I heard John Wayne use "On the level" in one of his earlier westerns from the early 1930's. I think he said it in Hell Town if i'm not mistaken. I'll see if I can find out exactly which movie it was. This is one of the 11 JW movies on a 2 DVD pack, and is one the first of the two dvd's. You can buy it at walmart for $5.50.
Best regards-TRK.
itdo January 14th, 2005, 02:36 AM In episode II of Season 3 of SEX AND THE CITY
Carrie Bradshaw (Sarah Jessica Parker) in the girls are in a gallery, discussing pictures of women dressed up as men. Carrie mentions: "Don't forget: John Wayne was a Jane."
SXViper January 14th, 2005, 06:07 PM Carrie mentions: "Don't forget: John Wayne was a Jane."
What does that mean exactely?
arthurarnell January 15th, 2005, 04:28 AM Hi Viper
Every now and then malicious rumours circulate that Jon Wayne was a cross dresser and that he had two way mirrors in his house so he could watch people dressing and undressing.
I think until anyone comes into print one way or the other they remain malicous rumours.
Regards
Arthur
Stumpy January 15th, 2005, 07:35 AM Originally posted by arthurarnell@Jan 15 2005, 05:28 AM
Hi Viper
Every now and then malicious rumours circulate that Jon Wayne was a cross dresser and that he had two way mirrors in his house so he could watch people dressing and undressing.
I think until anyone comes into print one way or the other they remain malicous rumours.
Regards
Arthur
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Malicious rumors are right. Before I'd believe a ridiculous story like that it would have to be sworn to by Pilar, Patrick or some other impeccable source who was in a position to know the truth. And even then, I'd be very sceptical.
SXViper January 16th, 2005, 01:30 PM All I can say is these people that propagate these rumors must be some very sad and bitter people. Thanks for the explanation Arthur.
itdo January 19th, 2005, 02:30 AM In "Tin Men", Barry Levinson's film which is set in the Sixties, as Danny DeVito crashes Richard Dreyfuss's cadillac, the radio plays the song from "Liberty Valance" (which wasn't eventually used in the movie but was a hit at the time in the charts).
arthurarnell January 19th, 2005, 02:41 AM Hi Roland
One of my things to do is make a disc of all of my favourite John Wayne theme Tunes and Gene Pitney's Liberty Valance will be one of the first to go on it. I can't understand why it wasn't put in the film, although saying that the theme music used was pretty good.
Regards
Arthur
Jay J. Foraker January 27th, 2005, 02:14 PM That rumor has to be some stupid scriptwriter's idea of a joke!
Jay :angry:
Robbie January 27th, 2005, 06:52 PM I never had much time for Sex and the City. I did hear tell I think it was either Jen or Smokey mention a suspect picture of the Duke I dont know how true this is.
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chester7777 January 28th, 2005, 12:17 AM Originally posted by Jay J. Foraker@Jan 27 2005, 12:14 PM
That rumor has to be some stupid scriptwriter's idea of a joke!
Jay* * :angry:
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Makes you wonder if some of those blacklisted in the fifties (or their offspring) are back writing scripts now . . . <_< .
Chester :newyear:
smokey January 28th, 2005, 10:22 AM hi robbie
i remember the photo it was taken on his boat and he was wearing really short shorts ( they may have been togs) and he had on what is now know as a sailing shoe. the rummour that went with this was that he was a member of the limp wrist band (as if)
cheers smokey
The Ringo Kid February 13th, 2005, 04:13 PM :cowboy: Heh heh, speaking of someone saying the Dukes name on some program on TV.
Last night I was watching an early episode of Leave It To Beaver. Apparently the town they lived in had two theaters. One was playing some sci-fi Voodoo horror film, and the other was playing Pinocchio (SP?). Well their parents did not want Wally taking the Beav to see that monster film (thou it was the one they really wanted to see) and they promised their mother the'd go see the Disney Cartoon.
Well, of course Eddie Haskell enters their world and convinces them to go see the Voodoo movie. As Wally and the Beav were undecided on what to do, Eddie says: "Which movie would John Wayne want to go to see?" and it was decided that he would not want to waste his time watching a cartoon and would want to see the movie with the Voodoo in it. So they watched the Voodoo movie instead.
Also, on an episode of Cheers I recently watched, he was mentioned in it as well. Since I normally do not watch Cheers, I guess I am lucky to have decided to watch this one.
Cliff was being intimidated by some bully in Cheers and was basically blackmailed into showing up for a fist fight with the guy--or be labled as a coward that he really was. I forget the exact wording but I think it was Carla that asked Cliff what John Wayne would do in this situation, and the reply was theat he would show up and fight the guy.
So. later on, Cliff arrives at Cheers, is confronted by the bully in front of all the patrons and Cliff turns and leaves the bar. The bully soon leaves and Cliff enters the bar. He is carrying a few bricks and a piece of 2x4 wood. He hands a brick out to one of the regulars and Coach reaches out and takes a brick saying: "Thanks, I needed a brick" not knowing the reason Cliff was giving the bricks out. He was giving them out as farwell gifts to his so-called "friends" who did not lift ahand to help him with the bully.
He then along with Diane, fakes being a Blackbelt in Karate. They set up a demonstration (and nobody except for Diane and Cliff--know that Cliff is faking being a blackbelt) Cliff takes off a shoe kicks the 2x4 in half and breaks the brick Norm is holding, with his forehead. Not showing he is in much pain, he whispers to Diane to help him home and Diane announces she is going home and Cliff is escourting her. Once outside, you see through the window that Diane is carrying Cliff up the stairs in her arms--on the way to the emergency room.
Anyway, I thought this episode was worth mentioning.
InHarmsWay February 14th, 2005, 09:48 AM I was watching Family Guy,on the cartoon network and Peter Griffin took his son hunting i believe it was with some friends.When they got out into the woods he asked his son to call him Rooster Cogburn while out hunting in the woods.
-IHW
itdo March 13th, 2005, 12:08 PM In "Bellissima", by the great Italian filmmaker Luchino Visconti, the river crossing from Red River is inserted. In a scene, somebody who is supposed to be a film lover, is watching the movie and explains: "How beautiful!"
That film was made in 1951, so this is probably the earliest hommage to Red River in another film.
Robbie March 13th, 2005, 12:41 PM In Eastenders John Wayne is constantly mentioned.
Charlie - Den have you seen your son
Dirty Den - No
Charlie - Are you sure
Dirty Den - Alright hes locked in the attic Im feeding him beer and pork scratchings.
Charlie - Hey theres no need for that.
Dirty Den - And theres no need for you to come in hear like John Wayne on a Space hopper.
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SXViper March 13th, 2005, 09:48 PM Speaking of John Wayne being mentioned on TV. Did anybody happen to see The Tonight Show with Jay Leno on Friday night? I normally never watch late night TV, especially after Carson quit but there was a actress I like that was going to be on plugging a new movie she is in, so I watched.
Anyways, Ozzy Osbourne was on with his wife talking about his "reality" show airing its last episode on MTV, thank god. And Ozzy was telling a story about his house being robbed and he shifted into a deeper voice and kind of acted tough. Jay laughed and said something to the effect about that must have been your American accent and Ozzy replied, no thats my John Wayne acccent!! Thought it was kind of funny.
Jay J. Foraker March 14th, 2005, 11:26 AM A little ironic, I would have to say, since Osbourne urinated on the Alamo some 30 years ago. Pretty well had people here up in arms when he did that. I'm sure the Duke would have had something to say about it too if he had hear about that!
Regards - Jay :dead:
The Ringo Kid March 15th, 2005, 12:37 PM :cowboy: I remember that when that osborne wizzed on the Alamo. That is something I will never forget or forgive him for. :angry: I was never a fan of his either.
InHarmsWay March 15th, 2005, 02:05 PM You really cannot take Ozzy seriously at alll,i mean the guy has been heavily into drugs and alcohol for years....it wasnt the greatest thing to do...but i mean....was biting the heads off two doves either?...he is just one messed up guy....
-IHW
Dragn April 2nd, 2005, 11:40 AM Ok ... Well in T. V. I don't think anyone has mentioned the beer commercials (for Coors I think). One was from The Quiet Man ("Bar Towel!!") and another ... well I don't know what movie it was taken from but he was a 3 star General and it had R. Lee Ermey (Full Metal Jacket) as a sergeant who had found a six pack of beer. He's yelling at his troops trying to find out whose beer it was. Suddenly you hear, "It's MINE sergeant!!! and J.W. walks up with an extremely perturbed look on his face and then asks "Where are my pretzels?". :lol: God I LOVED those commercials. :P
And in Music - Paula Cole's 1996 song, "Where Have All The Cowboys Gone?", the chorus says;
"Where is my John Wayne
Where is my prairie song
Where is my happy ending
Where have all the cowboys gone?" B)
Dragn April 2nd, 2005, 11:46 AM Also in T.V. There's an episode of The District where Jack Mannion (Craig T. Nelson) is talking about what a classic movie The Searchers is to a female D.A. (who btw, apparently had seen the movie and ragged all over it saying it was extremely prejudicial against Native Americans. Needless to say, Mannion didn't know what to say :lol: ).
The Ringo Kid April 2nd, 2005, 02:07 PM :cowboy: If I had been in a similar situation with some I.D.10.T, chatting about a John Wayne movie and then recieving the smae kind of reply, they'd be lucky enough to just got a :rolleyes: :rolleyes: from me. I'm not violent, but can use extreme terminology when hard-pressed by extreme stupidity. :)
itdo April 10th, 2005, 12:33 PM In "Thunderheart", the 1992 cop thriller by Michael Apted, Val Kilmer is tracking a killer in an indian reservation. When he presents a rather unbelievable murder theory, somebody else answers sarcastically: "And I'm John Wayne!"
InHarmsWay April 11th, 2005, 11:18 AM Their is also the song by Big And Rich...(however the title eludes me at the moment for some reason,although ive heard the song 10000times)...
one versesays this..
"im the ONLY John Wayne" in this town.
-IHW
chester7777 April 11th, 2005, 11:26 AM Here's one from The Bob Newhart Show, from the seventies - Bob's wife Emily takes their neighbor Howard to the dentist (he's really scared!) and she is describing the experience later to Bob, and tells him that as they got closer to the dentist's office, Howard (who makes his living as a pilot) started whistling the theme to The High and the Mighty.
Mrs. C :angel1:
The Ringo Kid April 11th, 2005, 02:25 PM I remember one from the Beetle Bailey cartoon strip. One had someone looking for Sgt Snorkle who happened to work for the John Wayne T.V. Movie Alert Service. This guy was trying to find him so he could tell him a John Wayne movie was playing on T.V. that Saturday.
Hondo Duke Lane June 16th, 2005, 10:15 PM Robbie, you will get a kick out of this.
In the movie, Beyond the Sea which is the bio about Bobby Darin, there is a scene where Darin is back stage and is upset about his receding hairline, and his manager told him to wear a toupee'. Darin is appalled and doesn't want to when his manager says that John Wayne wears one, and so did Humphrey Bogart. Anyway, Darin wears one and has many in his collection, and that is the mention of John Wayne.
Cheers B)
chester7777 July 14th, 2005, 09:22 AM Though I first saw the 1995 movie While You Were Sleeping nine years ago, I wasn't quite the John Wayne fan that I am now, so this reference meant nothing in particular the first time around. Last summer, I watched the movie again, and it jumped out at me and I immediately shared it here. But that post was part of last summer's computer glitch that "ate" about 5000 posts, and it disappeared.
So it is my pleasure to share it again (I absolutely love :wub: this romantic comedy, with Sandra Bullock and Bill Pullman).
The setting is a family meal, with a bunch of people around the table, and the reference is part of a humorously intertwined conversation, common at a large gathering.
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Midge: So . . . Lucy . . . have you and Peter decided where you're going to go on your honeymoon?
Saul: I went to Cuba.
Elsie: Ricky Ricardo was Cuban.
Midge: Didn't Peter look great today?
Saul: Aw, that kid . . . you know, he should have been an actor.
Elsie: He's tall.
Ox: All the great ones were tall.
Midge: Lucy, do you think you could find me a nice girl for Jack?
Jack: Oh, Mom, come on.
Lucy: I-I-I really don't know Jack's type . . . so I'm not the one to -
Jack: I like blondes - chubby ones.
Saul: Alan Ladd wasn't tall.
Ox: Marshall Dillon was six foot five.
Midge: Well, we all know who Lucy's type is. These mashed potatoes are so creamy.
Mary: You like brunettes.
Elsie: I could never make a good pot roast.
Saul: You need good beef. Argentina has great beef. Beef and Nazis.
Ox: John Wayne was tall.
Saul: Dustin Hoffman was five six.
Ox: Would you want to see Dustin Hoffman save the Alamo?
Midge: These mashed potatoes are so creamy.
Ox: Spain has good beef.
Midge: Mary mashed 'em.
Saul: Cesar Romero was tall.
Elsie: Cesar Romero was not Spanish.
Saul: I didn't say Cesar Romero was Spanish.
Elsie: Well, what did you say.
Saul: I said Cesar Romero was tall.
Elsie: We all know he was tall.
Saul: Well, that's what I said. Cesar Romero was tall. That's all I said.
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If you have never seen this movie, I recommend it as light-hearted fare.
Mrs. C :angel1:
Jay J. Foraker July 14th, 2005, 09:34 AM Hi Mrs. C -
My wife loves "While You Were Sleeping." She could probably recite the dialogue word for word. But I overlooked this reference to the Duke. Thanks for calling it to our attention.
Cheers - Jay :D
chester7777 July 14th, 2005, 09:58 AM Jay,
If you have the movie on DVD, you can go directly to scene 14, Beef, Potatoes, and Brunettes.
Mrs. C :angel1:
Hondo Duke Lane January 14th, 2006, 06:40 PM I'm bringing this back because there have been many references to John Wayne in movies and I can't remember them all.
I did see E.T. today and they were showing a scene from The Quiet Man where Duke and Maureen were in the cottage during the storm. Mary Kate {Maureen} was cleaning the cottage for Sean {Duke} when he came home. He saw that someone was in the cottage and went in to investigate. When he realizes that someone came to clean the cottage, and figured it to be Mary Kate, he drew her out and she screamed and ran. He caught her and pulled her next to his body and gave her a kiss.
That was the scene that was shown in E.T. The little boy did the same with a female classmate.
This is a duplicate from Roland in this first post but I wanted to be sure to mention this again as I saw this for the first time in I bet 20 years.
Cheers B)
Bek January 14th, 2006, 07:56 PM Wow, you guys have a great memory, I can't remember quotes as well as you do.
Moonshine_Sally January 15th, 2006, 03:13 AM Originally posted by chester7777@Jul 14 2005, 04:22 PM
Though I first saw the 1995 movie While You Were Sleeping nine years ago, I wasn't quite the John Wayne fan that I am now, so this reference meant nothing in particular the first time around.* Last summer, I watched the movie again, and it jumped out at me and I immediately shared it here.* But that post was part of last summer's computer glitch that "ate" about 5000 posts, and it disappeared.
So it is my pleasure to share it again (I absolutely love :wub:* this romantic comedy, with Sandra Bullock and Bill Pullman).
The setting is a family meal, with a bunch of people around the table, and the reference is part of a humorously intertwined conversation, common at a large gathering.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Midge:* So . . . Lucy . . . have you and Peter decided where you're going to go on your honeymoon?
Saul:* I went to Cuba.
Elsie:* Ricky Ricardo was Cuban.
Midge:* Didn't Peter look great today?
Saul:* Aw, that kid . . . you know, he should have been an actor.
Elsie:* He's tall.
Ox:* All the great ones were tall.
Midge:* Lucy, do you think you could find me a nice girl for Jack?
Jack:* Oh, Mom, come on.
Lucy:* I-I-I really don't know Jack's type . . . so I'm not the one to -
Jack:* I like blondes - chubby ones.
Saul:* Alan Ladd wasn't tall.
Ox:* Marshall Dillon was six foot five.
Midge:* Well, we all know who Lucy's type is.* These mashed potatoes are so creamy.
Mary:* You like brunettes.
Elsie:* I could never make a good pot roast.
Saul:* You need good beef.* Argentina has great beef.* Beef and Nazis.
Ox:* John Wayne was tall.
Saul:* Dustin Hoffman was five six.
Ox:* Would you want to see Dustin Hoffman save the Alamo?
Midge:* These mashed potatoes are so creamy.
Ox:* Spain has good beef.
Midge:* Mary mashed 'em.
Saul:* Cesar Romero was tall.
Elsie:* Cesar Romero was not Spanish.
Saul:* I didn't say Cesar Romero was Spanish.
Elsie:* Well, what did you say.
Saul:* I said Cesar Romero was tall.
Elsie:* We all know he was tall.
Saul:* Well, that's what said.* Cesar Romero was tall.* That's all I said.
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If you have never seen this movie, I recommend it as light-hearted fare.*
Mrs. C :angel1:
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Thanks for this Mrs.C,it is also one of my favourite films and I remember when I saw it years ago in the cinema I told my companion "see they mention John Wayne!!"Only to be told to be quiet :(
Bek January 15th, 2006, 03:45 AM I've had that happen to me to. Lol
chester7777 February 24th, 2006, 12:57 AM We just watched the movie Secondhand Lions, a story which takes place in the early sixties in Texas, and near the end, the mama calls out to her boy, "Honey, get in the car. We're burnin' daylight!"
What's funny is that of course the movie The Cowboys was made in 1972, so the quote was a little ahead of its time. :D
Chester :newyear:
Hondo Duke Lane February 28th, 2006, 12:19 AM Dancing with the Stars show the finality Sunday night, and the host was comparing a couple of dances to the Disco or John Travolta and the Western dance to John Wayne. Of course the winner of the Dance off was the one who danced to the Western of John Wayne :P . Hee Haw!!! :lol:
Cheers B)
kilo 6 March 1st, 2006, 01:38 PM Hello All
Our family is big on Sandra bullock and we have purchased many of her films. We like, ' While You Were Sleeping ' and have included comments from the lines Mrs C mentioned, in our conversations. John Wayne has been referred to all my life, from time to time. I like the fact that the influence of his roles, endures the test of time. ciao murray
Jay J. Foraker May 8th, 2006, 11:21 AM Just watched "The Professional," a film released in 1994, starring Jean Reno with Natalie Portman (in her movie debut) and Gary Oldman. Reno's character does a very poor but funny imitation of the Duke in this movie. :lol:
Cheers - Jay :D
kilo 6 May 11th, 2006, 11:48 AM Helo All
In our corner of the municipality we live in a town of 17 thousand. We had a new restaurant open up with a Tex Mex theme for cuisine. The main page of the menu begins with a reference to John Wayne. The aura is far reaching. :)
The Ringo Kid May 11th, 2006, 01:48 PM Originally posted by kilo 6@May 11 2006, 12:48 PM
Helo All
* * * * * In our corner of the municipality we live in a town of 17 thousand. We had a new restaurant open up with a Tex Mex theme for cuisine. The main page of the menu begins with a reference to John Wayne. The aura is far reaching.* :)
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Kilo--if you want or need any opinions on what to order (in case ya aint ever had any Mexican food) just ask Jay or myself.
Cheers--Ringo. :cowboy:
Jay J. Foraker May 11th, 2006, 05:29 PM Originally posted by kilo 6@May 11 2006, 11:48 AM
Helo All
* * * * * In our corner of the municipality we live in a town of 17 thousand. We had a new restaurant open up with a Tex Mex theme for cuisine. The main page of the menu begins with a reference to John Wayne. The aura is far reaching.* :)
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Hi Murray - I'm willing to bet that whatever they serve at that restaurant will be a very pale representation compared to what you will find at many Mexican restaurants here in South Texas. We have had so many people visit here and sample Tex Mex cuisine and remark that they can't find anything even close to the taste in their area of the country. <_<
That reminds me of Pace Picante Sauce. Before the company was bought out by one of the big, big food conglomerates, it was based here in San Antonio. Their commercials emphasized the fact that Pace was made in San Antonio and not in Nu Yak City :fear2: and chastised the guy using the stuff made up north. :stunned:
Cheers - Jay :D
chester7777 April 12th, 2007, 12:46 AM While watching a seventh season of Magnum P.I. (a bonus episode in the sixth season pack), entitled "A Little Girl Who . . . ", Magnum and Lt.Cmdr. Maggie Poole are trying to break into Col. Buck Green's top secret, high security computer for information. When asked for an access code, Magnum suggests "Iwo Jima". Maggie says, "Wrong war," to which Magnum replies "that's Buck's favorite movie." That one is successful, but then a second password is required. He says, "Try Wayne," and Maggie says, "No, Duke." They get into the computer and find the info they want.
Chester :newyear:
Hondo Duke Lane May 7th, 2007, 10:19 PM I happen to wake up in the middle of the night a few weeks ago and the TV was left on. It showed on TV Land an episode of Good Times not a favorite of mine, but anyway, the show dealt with a man who had cancer and wanted to keep it to himself. The maintenance man name Booker came in and said something to him and they went outside. As the discussion went on, Booker disclosed that he once had cancer and John Wayne inspired him to fight the "Big C" for a commercial he saw. The other man said that if Duke can face it and be tough, then he can do the same thing. He went in and told the family that he was going to fight like John Wayne did.
This was back in the 70's so this was inspiring to see that TV shows looked to Duke as a great man.
Just thought that you would be interested in that.
Cheers :cool:
Tbone May 8th, 2007, 09:29 AM Yes, I saw a current TV show just the other day with a reference to JW in it. It is amazing to me in some ways how he continues to be an influence even today. No one else can touch him in that regard.
chester7777 June 25th, 2007, 08:41 AM We were at a friend's house last night and the movie The Pacifier, with Vin Diesel, was on. At one point, he tells the kids, "We're burnin' daylight!"
chester7777 July 5th, 2007, 10:07 AM I'd like to encourage some of our newer members who have not already done so, to read through this thread from the beginning and see if you have any other references you can add.
It's pretty interesting to see how many JW references there are in movies and TV shows!
Chester :newyear:
chester7777 July 8th, 2007, 02:17 AM Here's another one, from The Rockford Files, season four, the episode entitled "The Queen of Peru". The one guy (works for an insurance company) says, "I'm not out to win a popularity contest, I'm just here to get the job done," and Jim responds, "Don't tell me, John Wayne in The Flying Leathernecks".
SXViper July 8th, 2007, 09:05 PM I went to "Transformers" last night and when the kid is talking to a robot for the first time, its voice box was broke so it communicated through the radio with songs or movie lines and when the robot and the kid were coming to the end of the conversation the robot car said in John Waynes voice" Are there anymore questions?" I cannot recall what it was from but I had heard it before.
Pretty cool that Duke made it into one of the summers biggest movies.
chester7777 December 13th, 2007, 02:08 AM We watched a DVD of a compilation of SCTV Christmas shows recently. In one of them, Johnny LaRue (the sleazy talk show host played by John Candy) is complaining loudly to station owner and manager Guy Caballero (played by Joe Flaherty). Then he (Candy) says, "I've got a good mind to cave your head in, but being that it's Christmas, I won't . . . I won't . . . the hell I won't!" as he takes a swing.
Pretty funny!
Chester :newyear:
chester7777 March 4th, 2008, 09:29 PM We're watching a 1998 movie called Mel (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0194146/), starring Ernest Borgnine.
In one scene, his grandsons have decided to run away at night, when they encounter a creature in the lightning which scares them. As they are screaming, Grandpa is shown in the flashes of lightning yelling, "He won't hurt you!" The light keeps flashing in the darkness on the screaming faces, Grandpa yelling, and his "mystery pet."
The boys yell, "Grandpa, is that you?!?!?!?
He yells back, "Well, I ain't John Wayne!"
Lt. Brannigan March 5th, 2008, 12:23 PM Not that it matters, but every time I watch Transformers (2007) I am extremely thrilled every time I hear Duke's voice. After watching newer movies, I always realize that Duke was/is the best there was, the best there is and the best there will ever be.
Also, I was disheartened after visiting the IMDB boards, as usual. I swear bashing Duke is a new national past time over there.
Moonshine_Sally March 5th, 2008, 01:57 PM We have this policeshow here called Witse and the neighbour of Witse is an elderly lady Annie. At the end of one episode Witse goes over to Annie's house to give her some chocolates because he thinks she's lonely (the episode was about an old folks home) and while he is standing at her doorstep you can hear Duke talking so she opens the door and he sort of assumes that she is going to ask him in to have a drink and she answers "Does it have to be now? I'm watching my John Wayne on tv"
gt12pak March 6th, 2008, 03:49 PM I went to "Transformers" last night and when the kid is talking to a robot for the first time, its voice box was broke so it communicated through the radio with songs or movie lines and when the robot and the kid were coming to the end of the conversation the robot car said in John Waynes voice" Are there anymore questions?" I cannot recall what it was from but I had heard it before.
Pretty cool that Duke made it into one of the summers biggest movies.SXViper, it took me a while to figure out where that quote came from, but I finally found out which Duke movie it came from. No, I'm not gonna tell you, let's see if somebody here can get it.
Lt. Brannigan March 6th, 2008, 04:13 PM I don't what movie it is, but I will just blurt the first one that comes to mind... Liberty Valance.
gt12pak March 12th, 2008, 09:38 PM Sorry. That's not it. Anybody else care to try?
Robbie March 14th, 2008, 07:18 PM The only movie that I can think of that has a similar line in it is "El Dorado". However the actual line from John Wayne's character in this movies is "Any more questions you want to ask?".
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Lt. Brannigan March 14th, 2008, 07:37 PM That is indeed the correct phrase, I was simply misremembering.
gt12pak March 14th, 2008, 07:47 PM You're good Robbie.....
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Robbie March 14th, 2008, 07:53 PM Your better finding an actual clip of the line, incidentally how are you tube films posted on this forum?
Thanks in advance
Robbie.
chester7777 March 24th, 2008, 11:31 PM In February and October 1986, the character Police Detective Lt. Gordon Katsumoto (played by Clyde Kusatsu) appears in the TV series Magnum PI. He's a little short Hawaiian who does a pretty darn good impression of John Wayne!
Mrs. C :angel1:
chester7777 April 21st, 2008, 12:20 AM While watching Race to Space, a 2001 film starring James Woods as a German scientist involved in the Mercury space program in 1961, one of the other assistants (also German) makes a couple of JW references. One of them is when he arrives to assist and says, "Somebody call for the cavalry, Pilgrim?" with as close to a JW impression as a German can muster (but definitely recognizable).
A little later, the head German scientist threatens to walk out on a launch, and the German assistant says, "No John Wayne, no launch," as a show of support.
Then the scientist calls the assistant over and says to him, "You call me John Wayne one more time, and it's back to Bavaria," to which the assistant replies, "OK, Duke . . . just kidding!!!"
SXViper April 21st, 2008, 11:51 AM SXViper, it took me a while to figure out where that quote came from, but I finally found out which Duke movie it came from. No, I'm not gonna tell you, let's see if somebody here can get it.
Sorry to have missed this post gt. It was when I was taking a break from the web. Anyways, yes, I figured it out after I watched the DVD but never posted the answer as I forgot that I mentioned it here. Thank god for the message board.
kilo 6 January 4th, 2009, 09:37 PM In the movie Run Fat Boy Run the main character is a little wasted after using an exercise cycle and when he joins a group of friends one says "You walk like you'r John Wayne"
kilo 6 January 22nd, 2009, 12:46 PM In the book Hard Fall by Author Ridley Pearson there is a reference to John Wayne. I offer this challenge to anyone interested, who can find it first?
Jay J. Foraker January 24th, 2009, 01:17 PM Saw an episode of "NCIS" the other evening on the USA Network where one of the cast said they were sorry and DeNoiso said "Don't say you're sorry - it's a sign of weakness, that's what the Duke said." There was even an attempt at mimicing Duke's voice.
chester7777 February 24th, 2009, 10:48 AM In a very recent episode of Monk, Mr. Monk and the Lady Next Door (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1354394/), which you can watch online (thanks to IMDb and Hulu), Mr. Monk comes back to a woman's house after having successfully asked a neighbor to stop playing his drums. She's quite surprised and says she's impressed, that he (Monk) is "just a regular John Wayne," to which he replies, "Except, you know, he needed a gun," and then launches into a fairly decent impression of Duke.
You gotta love it - our beloved Duke alive and well in continued references in today's media!
Mrs. C :angel1:
chester7777 March 2nd, 2009, 01:42 AM In the book Hard Fall by Author Ridley Pearson there is a reference to John Wayne. I offer this challenge to anyone interested, who can find it first?
Murray, please . . . have mercy on us . . . and tell us what that reference is!
Enquiring minds want to know!
Chester :newyear:
Jay J. Foraker March 2nd, 2009, 11:53 AM I've been watching a lot of "NCIS" episodes on USA lately and am really surprised at how many references to Duke are made in this series. Good show too!
itdo March 5th, 2009, 06:04 AM Hello, fellow Wayne fans
The ones who got Tim Lilley's latest "Trail Beyond" book might have noticed that I used my old topic here for an article. So to all who helped find JW references in movies and TV-series, a big THANK YOU, it enriched the story in the book.
Roland
dukefan1 March 5th, 2009, 09:22 AM Roland! It's great to see you back. I hope to see more of you here, as you have been missed. Welcome back!
Mark
Jay J. Foraker March 5th, 2009, 12:25 PM Hi Roland - glad to see you're back!
chester7777 March 6th, 2009, 01:30 AM Roland,
Good to see you again! We certainly appreciate you starting this thread way-back-when . . . we have become more aware of JW references in many places. And happy that it helped you in the writing of your article!
Chester :newyear:
chester7777 August 19th, 2009, 02:24 AM While generally our entries in this thread have been of John Wayne references in movies and TV shows, recently I've encountered some in two different Dean Koontz books.
The first is from the book The Husband, published in 2006. In chapter 58, it says -
The architecture of the gun shop had been inspired by dry-goods stores in countless Western movies. A flat railed roof, vertical-clapboard walls, a covered boardwalk the length of the long building, and a hitching post raised the expectation that at any moment John Wayne would walk out of the front door, dressed as he had been in The Searchers.
Feeling less like John Wayne than like any supporting character who gets shot in the second act, Mitch sat in the Honda, in the gun-shop parking lot, examining the pistol that he had brought back from Rancho Santa Fe.From The Good Guy (2007), in the opening chapter, where the author is introducing the main character -
Shod in heavy work boots, with a John Wayne walk that came naturally to him and that he could not change, he nevertheless entered the Lamplighter Tavern and proceeded to the farther end of the room without drawing attention to himself.Interestingly enough, at the end of the book, it indicates that correspondence for the author should be addressed to him in . . . Newport Beach, CA!!
Mrs. C :angel1:
itdo January 11th, 2010, 07:31 AM In "Have you heard about the Morgans", now in movie theaters, New Yorkers Hugh Grant and Sarah Jessica Parker have to sit it out in Sam Elliott's house in Montana. He doesn't even have cable! But lots of DVDs. "Mostly John Wayne and Clint Eastwood", he proudly tells them. So, that night, Grant and Parker watch "The Searchers" (the close up of Ethan as Debbie runs away to the cave in the final reel). Interesting: the film credits include Max Steiner's music for the clip but do not name the movie, as it's usually done.
chester7777 January 11th, 2010, 09:10 AM Roland,
Thanks for the most recent 'sighting'!
Why would they not name the movie in the credits (which is, as you say, "as it's usually done")? I suspect most people who know who John Wayne is, obviously would know which movie it was. Funny that they would credit the music, but not the film. Were there any Eastwood clips, which were properly credited?
The fact that Columbia Pictures made the film makes me wonder if there's still a residual animosity towards Duke amongst the powers that be that has been passed on since the era where Duke indicated he would never do any more movies for them.
Good to see you!
Chester :newyear:
Lt. Brannigan January 11th, 2010, 02:44 PM The fact that Columbia Pictures made the film makes me wonder if there's still a residual animosity towards Duke amongst the powers that be that has been passed on since the era where Duke indicated he would never do any more movies for them.
Good to see you!
Chester :newyear:
Doubtful, especially considering that they had to pay to use that clip. It would be like shelling out thousands of dollars to someone just to tell them that you hate them.
Elly January 16th, 2010, 06:33 AM In The Supranos on HBO, in at least 2 episodes, Tony was watching Red River on tv. dukefan1
Hi Can you please tell me which season and or episode numbers of the Sopranos this was in
thanks
dukefan1 January 16th, 2010, 02:46 PM I wish I could, Elly. But that was a long time ago and I don't recollect it now. Does anyone else remember?
Elly January 16th, 2010, 04:12 PM I wish I could, Elly. But that was a long time ago and I don't recollect it now. Does anyone else remember?
Oh please dont say that! there are 33 DVDs in seasons 1 - 6 and I hate the thought I have to sit through them all and even worse pay for them!
PLEASE SOMEONE SPARE ME THIS TORTURE LOL
chester7777 May 9th, 2010, 12:27 AM In the TV show Psych, Season 1, Episode 11, there is a reference to John Wayne in Rio Bravo taking a bath, in an effort to prove that 'real' men take baths (that it's not a 'metro-sexual' thing).
Mrs. C :angel1:
itdo November 26th, 2011, 04:31 PM To keep this record of mentioning JW in other movies going, in the 2011 released "Battle Los Angeles", a group of Marines have to fight aliens. After one especially heroic effort that echoes the JW action on Tarawa in "Iwo Jima" one Marine states, "That was some real John Wayne shit". And another one replies "Who is John Wayne?"
ethanedwards November 26th, 2011, 06:21 PM Hi my friend, good to see you posting again.
dukefan1 November 27th, 2011, 01:29 AM Hi my friend, good to see you posting again.
I second that! Great to see you're still around, Itdo.
Mark
Peridot December 2nd, 2011, 10:28 PM This isn't on screen but an actor called Michael McManus portrayed an undead assassin named Kai, the last of his race. He was an unstoppable killing machine. Because Kai was relentless and unbeatable, MM patterned his walk on John Wayne's walk. The actor studied dance and he was very graceful.
The assassin character was very cool. He was a good guy, a hero who was converted to the Dark Side after his death (literally) but after 2000 years he regained his memories and began fighting on the side of good again. He was inhumanly strong and had built-in weapons. JW would have liked Kai.
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