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Hondo Duke Lane
June 1st, 2003, 11:40 PM
What movie locations did Duke use most? He used it (7) seven times, and its possible it could be out of the United States. Please note it is possible.

Hondo B)

Northerner
June 1st, 2003, 11:43 PM
Just taking a stab here Hondo. Monument Valley?


Northerner

dukefan1
June 2nd, 2003, 12:54 AM
Most would think it was Monument Valley, but it was in fact Mexico. Duke made 7 westerns there. They were Big Jake, The War Wagon, The Sons Of Katie Elder, The Train Robbers, Chisum, The Undefeated, and Hondo. He made 6 in Monument Valley. dukefan1

chester7777
June 2nd, 2003, 04:45 AM
Cahill, US Marshall was filmed in Durango, Mexico, and True Grit had some location shooting in Durango as well. So dukefan1, you can add two more movies to Mexico ;) .

In terms of at least 7 films using the same location, we found:

The Three Godfathers
The Man from Utah
Blue Steel
North to Alaska
Oregon Trail
Tycoon
Westward Ho

These seven films share at least partial location shooting at Alabama Hills, Lone Pine, CA.

Chester

Robbie
June 2nd, 2003, 05:49 PM
Some scenes in the Searchers are set in Mexico. Regarding John Fords monument valley it was not actually him who discovered it but in fact Mr Wayne

B)

Northerner
June 3rd, 2003, 01:28 AM
Hi Robbie,

Actually Duke didn't discover Monument Valley. He was working as a prop man for another director who was shooting a film there. You are right in a sense however, as J.W. did tell Ford about it.

Northerner

Robbie
June 3rd, 2003, 07:43 PM
Yo Northener

Your correct as I rememebr the quote by duke to ford was I made a movie at a great location that would be ideal for this movie(Stagecoach) so although John may not have been the founder he was the person who noticed the potential. So I think it should be called John Waynes monument valley. :D

B)

Hondo Duke Lane
June 4th, 2003, 08:45 PM
The Answer is:

Durango Mexico

The Sons of Katie elder
The War Wagon
The Undefeated
Chisum
Big Jake
The Train Robbers
Cahill: U.S. Marshal


Good Job Chester & dukefan1

Hondo B)

AEC23
June 4th, 2003, 11:18 PM
According to Harry Goulding, who had a trading post in Monument Valley, he was the one who told John Ford that they valley would be great for shooting. His story says that he went to Hollywood and persuaded Ford to come and look at the location, and Ford loved it.

Robbie
June 5th, 2003, 06:31 PM
AEC23 That strory I feel is incorrect as I feel Duke is a very honest person and would not lie about something of this magnitude, John Ford did not have the same virtue.

B)

AEC23
June 5th, 2003, 08:00 PM
(Thanks, Robbie)

On my first trip to the Valley, my tour guide told a story about being a child when the movie companys first started coming in. He said that is was Mr. Goulding who got them to start shooting there. Of course, he was very young when they started making movies there, and he worked for Goulding's Lodge, so who knows how credible the story is.

That story about Monument Valley is just like the other stories. No one can really disprove any of them, but the people who were originally involved. I was just trying to put another side to the story.

itdo
June 6th, 2003, 04:15 AM
It's true, the official version is that Harry Goulding invited Ford to come and see for himself when the Reservation was broke (you'll read that story on every brochure in the valley). Then there's Fords own version. And then JW late in life, and after pappy's death, added his own version - how he suggested it to his mentor (he found it while working on a location nearby - so somebody else must have found it even before him. But then, Monument Valley is not Atlantis).

More and more I wonder about guys getting into fights on this board because they read one version in one book. Take it from me, the more books you'll read the more viewpoints you'll get - until you dont' know which one is true. After all, those guys were showpeople and they liked a good story. And we like them because they are good storytellers. They probably couldn't guess that 50, 60 years from now their statement would be discussed on a board in the Internet!

There is a museum in the Valley, listing all the films made there. They list Rio Grande - even though it was made in Moab. They don't list Angel and the Badman - even though the main title was shot in the Valley. So even the Injuns who run the reservation don't know - or don't care. Let's just enjoy all the stories. There's a good line in a great western about that - maybe you've heard?

IF THE LEGEND BECOMES FACT, PRINT THE LEGEND

BrianB
July 3rd, 2003, 11:00 PM
Question? Did'nt some of his later movies get filmed in Oregon?

Brian
Tulalip Wa

chester7777
July 4th, 2003, 12:00 AM
According to IMdB's location search, Rooster Cogburn was shot, at least in part, around the Rogue River area of Oregon.

Chester

Chris Maude
July 4th, 2003, 02:06 AM
just for a bit of trivia john wayne made brannigan in london with a scene we all know of on the tower bridge the next film to be made on the tower bridge was the mummy returns nearly 20 years later.

John Fain
July 4th, 2003, 09:55 AM
Rooster Cogburn was filmed in Oregon, The church , the town , about the
first half of the movie was filmed in the Bend, Smith Rock area. The Raft
trip WAS on the Rogue River.
John Fain
Siletz, Or

WikiDon
August 6th, 2005, 12:58 PM
Originally posted by BrianB@Jul 3 2003, 10:00 PM
Question? Did'nt some of his later movies get filmed in Oregon?

Brian
Tulalip Wa
2008



The movie ''Rooster Cogburn'' was filmed in both Deschutes County, Oregon west of the town of Bend, Oregon (for the mountain scenes). And on the Rogue River, in Josephine County and Curry County, Oregon, west and north, of the town of Grants Pass, Oregon (for the river scenes).

Don

WikiDon
August 6th, 2005, 01:06 PM
Originally posted by chester7777@Jun 2 2003, 03:45 AM
Cahill, US Marshall was filmed in Durango, Mexico, and True Grit had some location shooting in Durango as well.* So dukefan1, you can add two more movies to Mexico* ;) .

In terms of at least 7 films using the same location, we found:

The Three Godfathers
The Man from Utah
Blue Steel
North to Alaska
Oregon Trail
Tycoon
Westward Ho

These seven films share at least partial location shooting at Alabama Hills, Lone Pine, CA.

Chester
1173




"True Grit" was filmed in Ouray County, Colorado, in the vicinity of Ridgway, now the home of the True Grit Cafe, and the town of Ouray. The courtroom scenes filmed at Ouray County Courthouse in Ouray. North of the town of Durango. Durango, Colorado that is.

Don

SXViper
August 6th, 2005, 01:21 PM
WikiDon,

Welcome to the website, thanks for the info and hope to see you around more often.

chester7777
August 7th, 2005, 08:52 AM
WikiDon,

We'd like to extend a big WELCOME to the John Wayne Message Board! We hope you'll stick around, get to know us better, and give us an opportunity to get better acquainted with you.

Just wondering . . . you seem to have a lot of knowledge of the film activities in Oregon. Have you lived in that area, or do you have that information from reading? You seem pretty savvy regarding the Colorado locations also. Maybe you are just a big fan of the two films?

Do you know . . . did he do the Great Western commercials up in Oregon also?

Again . . . welcome . . . and we look forward to hearing from you soon.

Chester :newyear: and the Mrs. :angel1:

ethanedwards
August 7th, 2005, 11:51 AM
Hi,
I also notice in the John Wayne Reference Book,
they mention, Mexico locations as:-

HONDO- (Carmargo)
THE SONS OF KATIE ELDER.(Carmargo)
THE WAR WAGON(Durango)
THE UNDERFEATED(Durango)
CHISUM(Durango)
BIG JAKE(Durango)
THE TRAIN ROBBERS(Durango)

Old Tucson, Arizona,
RIO BRAVO
McLINTOCK
EL DORADO
RIO LOBO

The Ringo Kid
August 8th, 2005, 04:31 PM
I've got a good friend who lives in Grants Pass. I'll have to ask him when he has time to take some photo's of any place he knows of that The Duke was at. BTW, he frequents this site and is a Duke fan but has little time to make postings anywhere but at 12 O'Clock High.

WikiDon
August 11th, 2005, 12:35 AM
Originally posted by SXViper@Aug 6 2005, 12:21 PM
WikiDon,

Welcome to the website, thanks for the info and hope to see you around more often.
20022



Thanks for the welcome, SXViper & chester7777!

Born in New Mexico, lived in NM for 16 years, Oklahoma for 6-years, Texas 1-year, I lived in Oregon for 13-years, southeastern Arizona 1-year, back in New Mexico for the last 5-years. Fan of the two movies.

I haven't seen the Great Western commercials for twenty years. I thought that they were filmed in eastern Arizona. But I can't remember what they looked like that much. I remember sitting on a horse, with some trees in the background, then one were he is leaning over a wood-rail fence. Boy, that was a day or two ago!

Don

ethanedwards
August 11th, 2005, 04:14 AM
Hi,
According to the book JOHN WAYNE:AMERICAN,
the Great Western commercials were filmed,
in Grants Pass, Oregon.
He was pleased with the results, he looked as rugged as the countryside,
and Great Western reaped, tens of millions of new deposits!!

ethanedwards
August 11th, 2005, 05:03 AM
Hi WikiDon,
Welcome to the JWMB,
and I hope you enjoy your stay.
Why don't you drift on over to
The Real Seniors thread, and post your year of birth.
I can then edit you in, to the rich tapestry of life,
putting your name amongst some pretty illustrious folk!!

Best Wishes,
ee