THE SHOOTIST

DIRECTED BY DON SIEGAL
PRESENTED BY DINO De LAURENTIIS
PRODUCED BY M.J.FRANKOVICH/ WILLIAM SELF
MUSIC BY ELEMER BERNSTEIN
PARAMOUNT PICTURES

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INFORMATION IMDb

Plot Summary
J.B. Books, a 60ish gunfighter, finds that he has stomach cancer and two months to live
. He takes a room with Bond Rogers and her son, Gillom to wait until death comes.
Of course, his very presence starts off events in the town.
The Marshal comes, prepared to die in a shootout, Gillom tries to idolize him,
Bond first is disgusted and then pitties him.
Then, realizing that he will die in great pain,
he comes up with an idea to go out with a bang.

Full Cast
John Wayne .... John Bernard Books
Lauren Bacall .... Bond Rogers
Ron Howard .... Gillom Rogers
James Stewart .... Dr. E.W. Hostetler
Richard Boone .... Mike Sweeney
Hugh O'Brian .... Jack Pulford (faro dealer at Metropole Saloon)
Bill McKinney .... Jay Cobb (owner, Cob's Creamery)
Harry Morgan .... Carson City Marshal Walter Thibido
John Carradine .... Hezekiah Beckum (undertaker)
Sheree North .... Serepta (Books' ex-girlfriend)
Rick Lenz .... Dan Dobkins (reporter, 'Morning Appeal') (as Richard Lenz)
Scatman Crothers .... Moses Brown (liveryman)
Gregg Palmer .... Burly man
Alfred Dennis .... Dearden (barber)
Dick Winslow .... Streetcar driver
Melody Thomas Scott .... Girl on streetcar (as Melody Thomas)
Kathleen O'Malley .... Schoolteacher
Johnny Crawford .... Books' victim in flashback (uncredited)
Christopher George .... Books' victim in flashback (uncredited)
Leo Gordon .... Books' victim in flashback (uncredited)
Charles G. Martin .... Murray (the bartender) (uncredited)
Ricky Nelson .... Books' fellow lawman in flashback (uncredited)
James Nolan .... Gambler (uncredited)
Henry Slate .... Pulford confidante (uncredited)
Ralph Volkie .... White-haired bartender (uncredited)

Writing Credits
Glendon Swarthout (novel)
Scott Hale (screenplay) and
Miles Hood Swarthout (screenplay)

Original Music
Elmer Bernstein

Cinematography
Bruce Surtees

Stunts
Denny Arnold .... stunts (uncredited)
Jim Burk .... stunt double (uncredited)
Jim Burk .... stunts (uncredited)
Steven Burnett .... stunts (uncredited)
Roydon Clark .... stunts (uncredited)
Chuck Roberson .... stunts (uncredited)
Henry Wills .... stunts wrangler (uncredited)

Trivia
This was John Wayne's final film.

While this is marked as James Stewart's final appearance in a western movie, he did lend his voice to the cartoon movie An American Tail: Fievel Goes West (1991), where he voices an aging hound dog sheriff named Wylie.

John Wayne greatly admired director Don Siegel and had said he would like to have played Clint Eastwood's role in Dirty Harry (1971). Wayne was never actually offered the part however because of his age, although he later made two cop movies of his own.

There had been some opposition to the casting of John Wayne, since the producers thought that at 68 he was too old to be believable as a gunfighter.

Contrary to popular belief, John Wayne did not have cancer when he made this film. His entire left lung and several ribs had been removed in surgery on 16 September 1964, and in 1969 he was declared cancer free. It was not until 12 January 1979, almost three years after this movie had been filmed, that the disease was found to have returned.

When viewing footage of the final gunfight in the bar, John Wayne saw that it was edited to show him shooting a guy in the back. He said, "I've made over 250 pictures and have never shot a guy in the back. Change it." They did. However, Wayne had shot men in the back in several of his movies, including The Searchers (1956).

To add a sense of realism to John Wayne's character, archive footage from several of his westerns was used to introduce J.B. Books after the beginning credits. Included was footage from Red River (1948), Hondo (1953), Rio Bravo (1959) and El Dorado (1966).

When J.B. Books (John Wayne) arrives at Dr. E.W. Hostetler's (James Stewart) office, Hostetler mentions that it has been 15 years since they last saw each other. The inside joke is that Wayne and Stewart last worked together on The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance (1962), 15 years before.

John Wayne was only cast as Books only after five other star names had passed.

John Wayne fell ill with influenza during the production and was hospitalized for a fortnight. It was uncertain at one point whether the film would actually be completed.

John Wayne was great to the Carson City locals while he was staying at the Ormsby House Hotel during the filming. He signed autographs for young people readily, including one signed for future famed Nevada Opera lead mezzo soprano Mary Anna Replogle.

The title of the film comes from a famous quip by the gunslinger Clay Allison. Allison, a bounty hunter and hired killer whose marksmanship and drunken, homicidal rages made him feared across Texas, would reportedly tell anyone brave enough to ask that he was employed as a "shootist".

John Wayne liked working with Lauren Bacall in their first film, Blood Alley (1955) so much that he hand-picked her as his leading lady for this film.

George C. Scott was originally offered the role of Books, and accepted it on the condition that not one word of the script be changed. However, the role was given to John Wayne after he expressed interest. The producers claim they had wanted him all along, but did not believe he would be interested in the film.

An interviewer asked Ron Howard if John Wayne had given him any tips on acting. He said that, during the filming of the final shootout, Wayne took him aside and said he had some advice for him. As Howard eagerly awaited some profound advice, Wayne said "Ron, if you want to look menacing - close your mouth."

John Wayne did a TV Public Service Announcement for the American Cancer Society that began with a clip of the scene in which the doctor tells Books he has cancer.

Maureen O'Hara was considered for the role of Bond Rogers, but director Don Siegel felt she wasn't suitable for the part.

Lauren Bacall's character's first name was a reference to Ward Bond.

At the beginning of the seventh day, Gillom whistles a Scott Joplin song made famous to audiences three years earlier in The Sting (1973).

The engraved Colt Single Action Army revolvers used by J. B. Books in this film were in reality a pair of 1950's-made replicas p

'Hugh O'Brian (I)' wanted to be in the film, so he was given the character of Pulford, who was originally in the novel. Pulford was a card dealer. In the movie, his gun fight with a patron is depicted as occurring after Books comes to town. In the book, however, the gun fight took place much earlier.

The name of Scatman Crothers's character, Moses Brown, is an allusion to the McCandles Ranch cook played by Bill Walker in Big Jake (1971).

Despite receiving generally favorable reviews, the movie proved to be one of John Wayne's least successful movies ever on its release.

Although now widely regarded as one of the finest final movies of any star, along with The Misfits (1961) starring Clark Gable and On Golden Pond (1981) starring Henry Fonda, this was never actually intended as John Wayne's last movie, particularly since it was not until January 1979 - three years after filming had begun - that he was diagnosed with stomach cancer. In July 1978, after recovering from open heart surgery, he announced that he was intending to make a movie called "Beau John" with Ron Howard, but for some reason it never happened.

The movie has often been compared with The Gunfighter (1950), a part John Wayne had wanted to play but which had instead gone to Gregory Peck.

James Stewart only agreed to play a cameo role in the film because John Wayne had specifically requested him. His short time on the film proved to be trying. The bad acoustics of the huge, hollow sound stages worsened his hearing difficulties, and he stayed by himself most of the time. He and Wayne muffed their lines so often in the main scene between them that director Don Siegel accused them of not trying hard enough. Wayne's reply was a variation on an old John Ford line, advising the director, "If you'd like the scene done better, you'd better get a couple of better actors." Later on, the star told friends that Stewart had known his lines, but hadn't been able to hear his cues, and that in turn had caused his own fumbling. Because Stewart's movie career had ended several years before, he was only paid $50,000 for his part.

After 47 years in Hollywood, John Wayne did not film a picture in the year 1975. Production on The Shootist (1976) started in January 1976.

Final film of Buzz Barton.

Two years prior to the release of this film, Richard Boone, Harry Morgan and Rick Lenz had co-starred in the NBC television series, "Hec Ramsey" (1972) which was also set in 1901 and depicted the fading of the Old West and the coming of modern law enforcement.

SPOILER: The original screenplay had Gillom Rogers (Ron Howard) shooting and killing J.B. Books (John Wayne). In the screenplay, the killing disturbed Gillom so much that he throws away the pistol and leaves the bar, repulsed by the act. Wayne had the screenplay changed so that Books is killed by the bartender, who is then killed by Rogers.

Goofs
* Crew or equipment visible: In the final shooting when the bartender shoots Mr. Books, the squib detonation wires are visible on the ground and leading up each man's leg.

* Crew or equipment visible: When Sweeney is coming at Books with the table in front of him, the squib detonation wires are visible on the floor. The same wires are seen when Books falls to the floor after being shot by the bartender, and when Gillom shoots the bartender the second time.

* Continuity: In the final shootout, Books fires his belly gun four times, before he drops it, and his holster gun three times. The two nearly simultaneous shots through Sweeney's table are so fast, they have to be one from each pistol. After Gillom takes the holster gun and fires it three times at the bartender, it should be empty. But as he prepares to throw the gun away, it is obvious there are still loaded rounds in at least two chambers.

* Revealing mistakes: When Books shoots Cobb in the final scene in the bar, Cobb's blood pack is clearly visible beneath his shirt.

* Continuity: Towards the end of the movie, before the final gunfight, Sweeny drives up and parks his automobile outside the Metropole. As he gets out of the auto, he raises the tiller. Moments later when Books arrives at the Metropole, the tiller on Sweeny's auto is in the lower position.

* Continuity: After he discharges Dobkins setting a foot on his buttock, and Dobkins stretchs out on the ground, Books throws away his hat which falls on his feet. When Dobkins picks it up still lying, it is on his right side almost about his hip.

* Factual errors: When Books arrives in Carson City, the newspaper he buys says "Monday Morning January 22, 1901" at the top. 22 January 1901 was actually a Tuesday.

* Continuity: Books' hair goes from being parted on his left to his right then back to his left after he tells Marshal Thibido he (Books) is going to die when they first meet while in Books' room.

* Anachronisms: In the opening scene labeled as being set in 1871, a pair of Colt Peacemaker revolvers with 4-3/4 inch barrels is shown. This model was developed for the US Army in 1873. Civilian sales started in 1875, and the 4-3/4 barrel length wasn't available until 1877.

* Crew or equipment visible: When Sweeney drives up and stops his automobile outside the Metropole, there is a visible "stop" device for the car placed on the ground at the left front wheel.

* Factual errors: Queen Victoria died on January 22nd so her death would not appear in the newspaper until the next day, January 23rd, at the very earliest, and certainly not as shown in the paper dated 22nd.

* Factual errors: When Bond and Books first meet, Books tells Bond that his name is William Hickock, former marshal of Abilene. Bond tells Gillom what Books said, and Gillom tells her that Wild Bill Hickock died before he (Gillom) was born. Wild Bill Hickock's name was James Butler Hickock, not William Hickock.

* Continuity: After Books and Gillom practice shooting at a tree, they go for a walk. Gillom pulls out a whiskey bottle. In the cut just before Books takes the bottle from Gillom's hand, the bottle position changes from Gillom's left hand to his right hand.

Memorable Quotes (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0075213/quotes)

Filming Locations
Kings Row, Warner Brothers Burbank Studios - 4000 Warner Boulevard, Burbank, California, USA
Krebs-Peterson House - 500 Mountain Street, Carson City, Nevada, USA
Laramie Street, Warner Brothers Burbank Studios - 4000 Warner Boulevard, Burbank, California, USA
(studio)
Midwest Street, Warner Brothers Burbank Studios - 4000 Warner Boulevard, Burbank, California, USA
Stage 14, Warner Brothers Burbank Studios - 4000 Warner Boulevard, Burbank, California, USA
Stage 25, Warner Brothers Burbank Studios - 4000 Warner Boulevard, Burbank, California, USA
Washoe Lake State Park - 4855 Eastlake Boulevard, Carson City, Nevada, USA

Watch the Trailer:-

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Previous discussion:-
The Shootist (http://www.dukewayne.com/showthread.php?t=187)

Hi,

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Duke's final film is one that must rank, highly with THE SEARCHERS, RED RIVER etc.,
as one his greatest fims, and there's is a feeling amongst all his fans,
that he should have won another oscar for his performance.
It was great story, set in motion by the brilliant montage, at the beginning.

Duke quoted,

"This is the kind of picture, you wait for.They don't come by often, so when they do, you grab fast"

In this case, he grabbed the right film, and in this case, the role, was the right role, for him.
Rating 10/10

I watched this movie again last and even though you know how it is going to end it still makes me cry every time I see it. The begining where they tie all his characters into the one J.B. Books character was just perfect. I remember when I saw it at the theater when it was first released being a fan you somehow knew that this was his last movie and that made it even sadder. I have never understood why Duke was not a least nominated for an Oscar for this performance, I guess it had something to with Hollywood politics, but I have always felt it was absolutely flawless and what a fitting end to his career.


Baby Sis

:cowboy: :cowboy: :cowboy:

Hi

Not being nominated for an oscar for the Shootist had nothing to do with his politics it was the studios mis management in releasing the film in the summer and putting all their effort into King Kong.


Regards


Arthur

King kong, with jeff bridges and charles grodin was a flop was it now?. i particularly thought it was dreadful.

Just the same this movie is very touching and gets me everytime, must have been hard for the Duke to make this...knowing of course he would inevitably see his own fate end like this.

I really did not like little ronnie in this movie, but thought stewart,boone and bacall to be marvelous. I did like crothers as well as that haggler!..

-IHW

Even though this was DUKE'S last film I rank it right up there with ROOSTER COGBURN . It really shows his outlook on life. The teenagers of today could learn alot from DUKE about how to live your life and how to respect yourself.

Memorable Quotes

John Bernard Books: Damn.
Bond Rogers: John Bernard, you swear too much.
John Bernard Books: The hell I do.
[Books has just had a confrontation with Mike Sweeney]

Mrs. Rogers: Do you know that man?
John Bernard Books: Not him personally; but I had some dealings with his brother, Albert.
Mrs. Rogers: What kind of dealings?
[Books looks at her]
Mrs. Rogers: Oh.

John Bernard Books: I won't be wronged. I won't be insulted. I won't be laid a-hand on. I don't do these things to other people, and I require the same from them.

Pulford confidante: Hey, Pulford. Did you hear John Bernard Books is stayin' out at Mrs. Rogers' boarding house? I heard Thibodo say he was dyin'!
Jack Pulford: Yes, so I heard. Shame; he was a man I could have taken.
Dearden: Bullshit.
Jack Pulford: My friend, you have two ways to leave this establishment; immediately or dead.

Carson City Marshal Walter Thibido: Books, I want you out of town. These are law-abiding people here and I don't want any trouble. I can deputize as many men as I need to see that you leave.
John Bernard Books: I'm not going anywhere, Marshal. I'm dying and I intend to die right here.
Carson City Marshal Walter Thibido: Really? You're really dyin'?
John Bernard Books: Ask Doc Hostetler.
Carson City Marshal Walter Thibido: Hot damn! You know, Books, that's the best news I've had all day. While I was walking over here I was thinking, what if Books decides to kill me? Who will take over as marshal? Will the town council pay my pension to my wife? Damn, that's good news.

Dr. E.W. Hostetler: Books, I've been a doctor a long time and every now and then I have to tell a man or a woman what I'm about to tell you. Books, you have a cancer.
John Bernard Books: Damn! Can you just cut it out?
Dr. E.W. Hostetler: No, I'd have to gut you like a fish.
John Bernard Books: Well, Doc; how long do I have?
Dr. E.W. Hostetler: Two maybe three months. You won't feel any different for a while, then the pain will start. A little at first, then toward the end, the pain will be unbearable.
John Bernard Books: Well, that's it then. Thanks, Doc.

Carson City Marshal Walter Thibido: Hey, Books; did you hear what happened at the Metropole last night? Faro dealer, Pulford, shot a man clean through the heart at eighty paces. Maybe you should go to the Metropole, let Pulford deal you a game of cards.

Dr. E.W. Hostetler: You know, Books; I'm not an especially brave man. But, if I were you and had lived my entire life the way you have, I don't think that the death I just described to you is not the one I would choose.

Gillom Rogers: [Books is giving Gillom gunfighting lessons] Mr. Books, my grouping of shots was tighter than yours. How is it you've killed so many men?
John Bernard Books: First thing is, that target wasn't shooting back at you. Second, most men at that last second will flinch; I won't.

INFORMATION FROM IMDb

A classic movie which was a fitting wrap as his final movie.

Same he wasnt recognised by his peers.


Mike

Hi,
I have been researching all the threads, back to the start of the JWMB,
looking for previous discussion, relating to thIS movie.
I have found the following, comments, and have copied them here,
so that they are now under one forum:-

If you are interested, please click on the link:-

The Shootist, Waynes, Last and Greatest Movie (http://www.dukewayne.com/showthread.php?t=663)


The Shootist, The Book vs. The Movie (http://www.dukewayne.com/showthread.php?t=187)

The Shootist.DUKE AT HIS BEST (http://www.dukewayne.com/showthread.php?t=2075)

Originally posted by ethanedwards+Jan 1 2006, 07:29 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(ethanedwards @ Jan 1 2006, 07:29 PM)</div> . . . and there's is a feeling amongst all his fans,
that he should have won another oscar for his performance.24784[/b]
This fan agrees wholeheartedly with that!

Originally posted by Baby Sister@Jan 2 2006, 03:46 PM
I watched this movie again last and even though you know how it is going to end it still makes me cry every time I see it. The begining where they tie all his characters into the one J.B. Books character was just perfect.24825
We hadn't paid such close attention to the beginning of the movie until, a couple of years ago, someone on this message board brought it to our attention. You are right - it was just right, and so much more meaningful when you have actually seen the movies from which the clips came.

<!--QuoteBegin-duke564ever@Jan 11 2006, 08:35 AM
Even though this was DUKE'S last film I rank it right up there with ROOSTER COGBURN . It really shows his outlook on life. The teenagers of today could learn alot from DUKE about how to live your life and how to respect yourself.
25215
AMEN to that, brother!

As you might guess from the comments above, this film ranks near the top of our list of JW movies. It is a classic, and truly a fitting final film for this great actor.

Deep Discount DVD (http://search.deepdiscountdvd.com/search?p=Q&ts=custom&w=shootist&search.x=0&search.y=0) offers this film individually as well as part of two different collections, and also some movie posters.

Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/gp/search/103-2966141-4147854?search-alias=aps&keywords=shootist) has the newer release of The Shootist that is part of Paramount's John Wayne Collection (Deep Discount doesn't). Amazon also has the book on which the movie is based, as well as several collections which include this film.

Chester :newyear:

I had put this up on "Duke Stories" a year or two before, but I thought that it might belong here also. You can go to the Site Below for just about all you wanted to know about the Making of "The Shootist." :rolleyes:

THE SHOOTIST (http://www.wyntoontrip.com/SHOOTIST1.html)

Chilibill :cowboy:

I am sorry. I did not like this film. I'm not saying that it is not an excellent film, I'm just saying that I, personally, did not like it. I found it very depressing. Maybe I'm missing something, but I'm not adding this one to my collection. It is too sad.

This is a powerful moving picture (no pun intented). It is made esp. powerful by the use of clips from old Duke pictures as J.B. Brooks' personal history. The supporting cast including Laurne Bacall, Ron Howard, Richard Boone, and Jimmy Stward of course, is just four-star as is Don Seagal's direction.

Duke's Movie Locations

The Shootist was filmed mostly in the following locations

WASHOE LAKE STATE PARK- NEVADA

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Click on
Photo (http://parks.nv.gov/images/LWL3.jpg)

Washoe Lake State Park (http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://parks.nv.gov/images/LWL3.jpg&imgrefurl=http://parks.nv.gov/wl.htm&h=1200&w=1600&sz=850&hl=en&start=2&tbnid=ed5bQ8cnhfJjSM:&tbnh=113&tbnw=150&prev=/images%3Fq%3DWashoe%2BLake%2BState%2BPark%2B%26svn um%3D10%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-GB:official_s%26sa%3DN)

Information from
Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Washoe Lake State Park is a Nevada state park in Washoe County, Nevada. Located between the cities of Carson City and Reno near US 395, it is in the Western Nevada Region of Nevada State Parks.

Here is a Little look at the Story Line of "The Shootist" and a Picture of One of the Colt Pistols Duke used in the Film. :rolleyes:

THE SHOOTIST STORY LINE (http://26barranch.com/SHOOTIST.html)

Chilibill :cowboy:

Some more photos,


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A rare photo

1465
That photo looks like it's from True Grit. Isn't that Kim Darby Duke's talking to?

Yep, my mistake. Clicked the wrong thread!

Here's the theater poster for The Shootist -

Chester :newyear:

A lovely poster, one of the better ones

Keith,

Thank you. This is one that Les Adams, from Abilene, Texas shared with us.

Chester :newyear:

I could be wrong, but I don't remember the word bs in this movie. But it won't hurt if I watch it again just to be sure. The Shootist was (is) one of my favorites.

John Bernards old flame calls him one.

The milk delivery man warns Duke at the start of the movie 'Yea I'm talking to you you dumb b*****d, I said move it or I'll deliver you something to remember me by.

John Bernard told said to the sheriff, 'Your the longest winded b*****d I ever listened to.

:agent:

Absolutely right and what a filthy mouth Ron Howard had.

I read in Emmanuel Levy's book on John Wayne that Paul Newman and George C Scott were both offered the role of JB Book's before John Wayne.

Paul Newman passed on the role and George C Scott wanted too many changes made to the script.

The winning choice of Duke was also added to the fact that they could use footage from his old movies in the credits to show the life of J B Books.


Mike

I have had this book for a year now but I have yet to read it, maybe cause it's very difficult for me to watch this movie. I watched my Granddad go through pretty much the same thing with his cancer and I have a hard time watching this without thinking about him. But I have to say that this film was the best way for him to end his career, regardless of the fact that he never viewed this as his swan song. But what a beautiful swan song it was, and the perfect epitaph to a legendary career.

Hi,
I love this movie, even if it makes me cry everytime I watch it. I think that is because you know that in real life that he is fighting cancer. But there again, that is the person he was, and that is why he is loved so much!
stacy

I agree it is an amazing movie, but is very hard to watch without tearing up!

Hi everyone
This movie is one of my fayorites.
and for a lomg time, I have one question.
I wonder what brand of whisky(may be bourbon?) which on the bar counter
in this movie's scene?
this whisky's label mark looks like clover.
sanda

sanda,

I will have to pull out my copy of The Shootist and watch it to see if we can answer your question, but in the meantime, I would like to welcome you to the John Wayne Message Board!

As far as I know, you are our first and only member from Japan. You've expanded our scope to another continent!

We hope you will take a moment and introduce yourself to us in the Newbie Forum.

Again, WELCOME!

Chester :newyear: and the Mrs. :angel1:

sanda,

I will have to pull out my copy of The Shootist and watch it to see if we can answer your question, but in the meantime, I would like to welcome you to the John Wayne Message Board!

As far as I know, you are our first and only member from Japan. You've expanded our scope to another continent!

We hope you will take a moment and introduce yourself to us in the Newbie Forum.

Again, WELCOME!

Chester :newyear: and the Mrs. :angel1:

I echo the above, but to add,
I see the Whiskey bottle, with sort of a yellowish label,
but can't read it.

Perhaps our whiskey drinking friends in the States,
will sober up enough, to tell us!!!

chester777
Thank you for your invitation to newbie forum.
and I hope american whisky friend will teach me that whisky brand name.

I effort to introduce myself in the newbie forum, but my ability of english speaking
or writing is so poor. please forgive me my odd expression,miss spelling.
sanda

Just watched this the other night. I was amazed at the amount of exceptional actors involved. A high quality production all the way around. And Duke's acting was terrific. This was one of the few times that Ron Howard appeared before the cameras (after "The Andy Griffith Show") before going on to directing, and his acting abilities were paramount too. Loved Harry Morgan as he portrayed his character's exuberance on hearing of Books' cancer.
Cheers - Jay:beer:

Jay I agree with you Completly, and think this was one of Duke's Best Films. And how could you beat The Cast ! Most of the Main Cast had ask to be in the Film with Duke, because I think they all knew this would be one of His Last Film, and they were Right !!!
:cry2:
Bill:cowboy:

The Shootist is a brilliant movie and a wonderful Epitaph to a long and wonderful career.

If Paramount had spent more time marketing it rather than King Kong Duke would have got a second Oscar.

Mike

Definitely Duke gave an Oscar winning performance in this!
Cheers - Jay:beer:

Jay, You are Right, This should have been Duke's Second Oscar, But Most of Hollywood Did Not Like Duke !!!
:evilgrin:

Bill
:cowboy:

Sanada,
Most of the Bottles in the Films are made of what was Called "Candy Glass" and would Break But Would Not Cut You. It was Made of the same thing as the Windows Glass that You See Them Breaking in the Films !
The Labels on the Bottles were "Called No Name Labels" and made up for the Films so that They would not Get in Trouble With the Companys that Make The Real Stuff !!!

Chilibill
:cowboy:

Thank you Brooks
No name Labels,regrettably i understand.

and one more question.
His last day,J.B.Books said a greeting to little lady in the streetcar.
by japanese subtitle,it was "I hope you will meet a good young man "
but a restriction of transrate that three word by a second we can read,
subtitles are not seldom uncorrect.

I heard that line is "I sure hope you have right to welcome a star"
want what Books said ?
Best regards,

sanada

H. sanada
J.B. Books tells The Young Lady "I Sure Hope The Right Fellow Comes Along."
:teeth_smile:
Duke said He added that to the Script , so that J.B. Books would look like a Real Gentleman Before He went into the Saloon For the Big Gunfight !!!
:dead:
Chilibill
:cowboy:

Thanks again Brooks
Because of my poor ability for english hearing,It made a mistake dangerously.
" I sure hope the right fellow comes along " is a good dialogue and just like Duke
to say so!

About this dialogue,there's an interesting story.
Several years ago, Mr.Ohbayashi(japanese movie director)visited Duke's daughter
and he heard from her that this dialogue was often said by Duke in real life.

Is it true?
and I want to know the name of Duke's daughter who told so .
Anybody know?
Best regards,

H.sanada

Yes it does sound like the kind of thing Duke would say.

H. sanada
I think that was Duke's Young Daughter "Aissa," and Yes when Duke did meet a Young Lady that Did Not have a Wedding Ring on Her Finger, being the Gentlman that He Was would say "I Sure Hope the Right Fellow Comes along."
:regular_smile:
Bill
:cowboy:

Yes We are very happy Duke's last movie is The Shootist, the great western movie
filled with his gentlemanship.
H.sanada

Yes We are very happy Duke's last movie is The Shootist, the great western movie filled with his gentlemanship.
Great observation!

We appreciate the film as a fitting end to a long and illustrious cinematic career. The character, and the man who played him, were very human in their response to great pain, but both gracious gentlemen as well.

Chester :newyear: and the Mrs. :angel1:

Great observation!

We appreciate the film as a fitting end to a long and illustrious cinematic career. The character, and the man who played him, were very human in their response to great pain, but both gracious gentlemen as well.

Amen, I could not have put it better.

Everything said here is quite right. A fitting and moving end to a magnificent career.

I ALWAYS cry buckets when I watch this film. Bet all you guys shed a tear too if your not too macho to admit it.

The casting was superb. Lauren Bacall was perfect. My apologies to MOH but for me she would not have been right as I recall too much on screen history between her and JW.

Elly,
I Don't Cry Buckets Of Tears, but I do admit that when I watch the Film "The Shootist" and that is quite often, I keep a Box of Tissue Close By for that Tear or Two, as this was a Great Duke Film, with a Great Cast all the way, and just the way that I Remember Him !
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Bill
:cowboy:

This movie always makes me tear up, as I witnessed my Granddad suffer pretty much the same way.

Elly,

I Don't Cry Buckets Of Tears, but I do admit that when I watch the Film "The Shootist" and that is quite often, I keep a Box of Tissue Close By for that Tear or Two, as this was a Great Duke Film, with a Great Cast all the way, and just the way that I Remember Him !
:cry2:
Bill

:cowboy:


Bill you are very fortunate to have known JW personally. And we are very fortunate thast you tell us these stories and give us this "inside" information. I know i am not alone in telling you how very much I enjoy and appreciate it. Thank you

Watching this film after many of his other films, makes it even more poignant for there are many moments in this film that make this film the fitting farewell that it is. The last 20 minutes of the film hold the most significance, in these 20 minutes I feel that Duke was in effect saying goodbye to his fans... I know that there are a lot of arguments over this, but it seems to me that he knew he was dying and that this was his last chance for a cinematic finale worthy of his stature. Heck, if one views his entire body of work from the 70's it's almost like a long goodbye.... now I know that's a stretch, but in these 10 films he inserts more of his wisdom then previously decades.

This decade had his most heartfelt films, filled with damn good advice to live by and about what being a man is. But getting back to the film, the moments between Duke and Bacall are especially emotional and heart tugging. If you don't get misty eyed, then you are obviously stone hearted. Or perhaps you have no idea just who the hell John Wayne is. No other actor has, at least in my knowledge, ever had a screen epitaph worthy of capping their career

Now onto the analysis of the film

Acting
The Acting was wonderful; Duke gives easily the best performance of his career. The entire cast deserved awards with one exception. The best scenes, as I previously stated, are those between Bacall and Duke, you feel almost as if Bacall was saying goodbye to Duke himself instead of John Bernard Books.

Story
This viewing is the first time I have ever paid attention to the nuances of the film and let me tell you.... this film is highly rewarding and worth owning if you are even a casual fan of the Duke's.

And the rest
The score was fitting, especially when he walked into the bar for the final showdown. The cinematography was in short awesome and rivals that of the work done by Clothier. And the editing was obviously done by seasoned pros. Now the only reason I mention the editing is because prior to this film I watched Rooster Cogburn which was very badly edited, and stuck me as a film from first timers.

What was the one exception?

I may have asked this before but I can't remeber. The meds I'm taking now are pretty strong so I forget easy so please forgive me if I have. I had heard That when they were trying to cast the shootist they offered it to many before finally giving it to Wayne. I heard Newman, and Hackman and Boone along with several others. Duke was getting pretty mad because he wanted this role so bad. My thoughts are I wonder if the others turned it down because they all knew it was perfect for the Duke since he had cancer and out of respect, I would like to also know why they didn't offer it to duke in the first place I mean it fit his life to a tee. I heard this on tcm or HDnet or hell maybe I dreamed it. Has anyone heard this story.

Hi Brick

I don't believe anybody turned it down because they felt it was more appropriate for Duke e.g. Gregory Peck turned the role down due to the fact that he played a similar role in "The Gunfighter,".

At the time Duke Dukes health was deteriorating and many felt he would not be able to complete this film therefore they asked other actors before him.

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Hi

I'm just about to go out to work so I haven't got the full time to research this topic but the role was offered to three or four other actors before John wayne took it.
The book was quite earthy and controversial and before it came to the screen had to amended quite severely.
If you read Don Segals' book the first chapter deals with the making of The Shootist.

Regards

Arthur

Thanks I'll try to find the book. The shootist is my favorite Duke movie although it's sad I believe it's wayne's finest acting. I used to not be able to watch the cowboys or shootist because he was killed in both. I got by that and the shootist became my favorite.

George C. Scott was originally offered the role of Books, and accepted it on the condition that not one word of the script be changed. However, the role was given to John Wayne after he expressed interest. The producers claim they had wanted him all along, but did not believe he would be interested in the film.

This is what I found in the imbd thread about The Shootist. There might be more information about that, but I haven't found anything yet. I'll check later today on that information.

Cheers :cool: Hondo

"The producers claim they had wanted him all along, but did not believe he would be interested in the film."

This is a very strange statement since I'm sure most of us on this board feel the movie was written specifically for our main man. I know I myself feel that way.

Here is a little Story about the Story line in Duke's Great Film
"The Shootist"
:teeth_smile:
http://www.ranch26bar.com/THESHOOTIST.html

Chilibill
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If the producers wanted him all along why didn't they jsut offer it to him and let him decide. The report I heard was wayne was getting angry because he wanted the role and they kept offering it to others. I wish there was clear cut evidence either way.

Here is a little more Infro. on Duke and Him wanting to do The Shootist.

http://www.ranch26bar.com/THESHOOTIST1.html

Chilibill
:cowboy:

this role was offered to george c scott who acceped aslong as nothing in the book changed. when word got out that duke was able to play the part well the rest is history.the movie was changed to fit him.

Thanks Chilli Bill. That answers alot.

Has George C Scott ever done a western?

Cheers :cool:

My question about the Shootist is what was he gonna do after he survived the gunfight. I know the bartender shot him, but if he hadn't, what was J. B. Books gonna do after that? I mean he still had cancer, was he gonna take his own life?

My question about the Shootist is what was he gonna do after he survived the gunfight. I know the bartender shot him, but if he hadn't, what was J. B. Books gonna do after that? I mean he still had cancer, was he gonna take his own life?

The book ended with Gilliam shooting Books in the back, and of course the movie had the bartender shooting Books in the back.

So if he had lived, we can only speculate an alternate ending, so I'd have to say based on the movie, that Books would have walked away, and looked for others to try to gun him down. I think that Gilliam's mom and Books would have nurtured their relationship, and became closer. Then others would try, but Books condition would worsen and the cancer is unbearable, until the sheriff comes in and guns down Books in cold blood, but the newspaper writer would make the sheriff the hero. A great scandal to say the least.

I like the movie's ending better by the way, gt.

Cheers :cool: Hondo

Hi Hondo

At some point I would like to read that book, I've heard a lot about it and yes, I knew that Gillem was the one who shot Books in the back. Why would he do this? Unless he was trying to become the next shootist.

But as far as the sherrif goes, I suppose he would have to have done something. Maybe he could have shot Books before Books shot him. But for arguments sake, let's say Books got away scott-free, and I agree that the cancer would have gotten to him sooner or later, do you think he would have eventually taken his own life?

Me personally, I'm kinda like you in that I think he would have just kept on gunfighting until somebody sooner or later was just a bit faster than him.

I haven't read the book either, so I don't know what Gilliam was thinking or if he was going to be the next shootist. My reference point was the movie which I am more familiar with.

I may have not interpreted this to you correctly, but the sheriff shoots Books in the back like a coward, either while he is sleeping, eating his meal, or taking his medicine. I consider the sheriff crooked.

I am not sure if Gilliam is the faster gunfighter or not. I didn't think he was in the movie version. I'll just have to read the book myself, or maybe someone can enlighten us on this question who has read the book.

Cheers :cool: Hondo

While the book was a very good read, it does not end on a high note. Gilliam starts out being in awe of Books in the beginning of the book, but after he finds out that Books is dying, and sees how weak he has become, he actually starts treating him with disdain. And Giliam does shoot Books in the end, but it is Books who asks him to do it, after being shot in the back by the bartender. I won't go into any more detail to save those who intend to read the book.

I did read elsewhere that John Wayne wanted the part but wanted the ending to be different. He wanted Gillaim to learn that Books life isn't the way Gilliam should aspire to be. He wanted him to be dispelled of the adoration he held for the life with the gun and go in a different direction. so they rewrote it to end that way. I liked the way the movie ending was way more than the book.

Another thing about the book. It was very graphic in it's description of J.B.'s cancer and what it was doing to him. It also goes into detail about each bullit as it enters it's intended victim and the damage it did. Kinda gory. :vomit:

Mark

Has George C Scott ever done a western?
Cheers :cool:
He did "The Hanging Tree" with Gary Cooper.
Cheers - Jay:beer:

One of my favorite soundtracks......enjoy.

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One of my favorite soundtracks......enjoy.

3NEfcj5ssWw

I find it very haunting but very very impressive, its a shame the video could not provide some film footage to go with this great tune.

:agent:

Although I really enjoy watching The Shootist I also find it quite sad knowing its Duke's last movie

That said, I feel its a fitting tribute to JW

Here is an example of the book. Enjoy!

Mark

http://www.dukewayne.com/imagehosting/2147f8ec291aade.jpg

I tried to find this one at my local Barnes and Noble the other day, but they don't seem to have it. I guess I'll to get mine off ebay.:glare:

Not an easy one to watch but a classy finish to a great career

very good movie.How did we all feel when Gillom walks out of the tavern and walks by his mother bond? The young man grew up at this point and his life was forever changed. The way J.B Book dies with such courage was indicitive of the way the Duke handled his own bout with cancer leading to his death. There willnever be a man like him again.

This was my first John Wayne film i ever saw, one of his finest in my opinion.

i agree this movie was really sad for me to watch, knowing that it was Dukes last. but the way he carried himself through the whole thing was jus amazing. this movie is one of my favorites. there will never be anyone like him again

i loved this film. i loved the black and white beginning and the quiet dignity and courage he showed throughout, particularly on his last day when he got dressed to go and do what he had to do

I have to say something that saddens me to say.

Of all the John Wayne films out there, this one is not for children. The cursing is over the top. I can not recall another John Wayne film in which there is so much swearing.

I enjoyed the intro with the clips from Dukes old films, but as we were watching this film last night, I had to turn it off. It was scandalizing my children.

I don't understand why Duke allowed the script to be this coarse.

It could have accomplished everything it set out to be without the language.

Does anyone else have the same reaction to this film?

I'll have to admit, Tbone, that I was puzzled by this post. I don't remember any vulgar language in The Shootist. Maybe I'm desensitized by the cussing in so many movies of today that I don't notice it in older films. I'll have to watch The Shootist again to see what you mean.

I know that he addressed the use of profanity in his Playboy interview when asked:

Playboy: Audiences may like your kind of violence on the screen, but they'd never heard profanity in a John Wayne movie until "True Grit". Why did you finally decide to use such earthly language in a film?

Wayne: In my other pictures, we've had an explosion or something go off when a bad word was said. This time we didn't. It's profanity, all right, but I doubt if there's anybody in the United States who hasn't heard the expression son of a bitch or bastard. We felt it was acceptable in this instance, At the emotional high point in that particular picture, I felt it was ok to use it. It would have been pretty hard to say, "you illegitimate sons of so-and-so! "
So, I guess he may have felt that it was appropriate for the scenes in The Shootist. I've never read anywhere about him having an issue with it. He just disagreed on how the movie should end and they rewrote it to end in a way that pleased Duke.


Mark

Mark,

I had forgotten myself until we turned it on. I haven't seen the Shootest in probably 5 years. Between him, Ron Howard and Harry Morgan, they say about everything except the "F" bomb. Lot's of taking Our Lord's Name in vain there. That's when I finally had to say "enough".

As I recall Harry Morgan says Gosh Darn twice in the movie. But I don't recall any other profanities.

I watched this movie again. I admit I have to be in a certain mood to watch it because it really does haunt you.

Its a beautiful movie and I guess no actor ever had a better send off role. I know John Wayne always acted with his eyes but in this one it just hurts looking at the pain. A couple of things.

Has anyone else noted that for a man who couldn't sing, John Wayne sang in an awful lot of his movies. I can think of the Quiet Man, McLintock, 3 Godfathers. Hatari. John Wayne singing Gilbert and Sullivan in the Shootist must have been a first.

I am not to sure if this was intended or not but notice when John Wayne gets off Dollar in front of the doctor's he steps onto a mounting block, maybe it was meant to indicate Books was in pain or maybe Wayne really needed it.

When he rides up to the boarding house, and goes to get off, the last time he ever will get off horse in the movies, there is a mounting block just in front of the house and presumably it is there for him to use to dismount. However the Duke pulls up just in front and gets off without using the mounting block.

I watched the documentary on the DVD and it seemed to me that the producers were a bit annoyed with Wayne for stopping them using the ending in the book because the ending used made the story about the end of an era not the start of a new one and therefore 'Hollywood'. I also chose to see the taking out the three men is Books symbolically ending his era. Carson City is changing and no longer a town where people should kill each other in saloons and streets. He takes out the remnants of his own era before he goes. Anyway that is my interpretation.

All I can say is that I am glad the Duke stuck to his guns about the ending. I never can understand why film makers have to make non-Hollywood endings which seems to me to be an ego trip at the expense of their audience. It shows a total disrespect for the audience which the Duke didn't do. I don't think audiences mind sad endings but they resent futile one which non Hollywood endings usually are. And the book one would have destroyed all the dignity of the character.

One of the producers claims the 'Hollywood" ending weakened the film but I personally think the book ending would have destroyed it. There is something noble about J.B Books dignity and shooting a man in the back and destroying Gillam's life as he died would have made a mockery of when he tells Mrs Rogers he is maybe a better man than she thinks which the way the character is played is easy to believe.

Anyway I think this is a beautiful film and I am glad that it was John Wayne who made it because I suspect with any of the other actors who were considered, it would have been about the violent ending of the last of the Wild Bunch and not the ending of John T. Chance.

dee

THE SHOOTIST is a great film, in fact even the critics liked it when it came out, very rare for Duke in his last films. There was even talk of Duke getting the nod for a second Oscar. I think he new his health was becoming an issue, I am sure he did not have cancer at the time, but he knew inside he was not the same ol' JW.:teeth_smile:

Duke was Very Sick when He was making this Film and had already lost one Lung To as He Said "The Big C" and was having a Very Hard Time Breathing !
:yeaahh:
I think that one of the Great Things was that All The Other Main People in the Film, ask To Be In The Film, and some said they would do The Film with No Pay !!!
Chilibill
:cowboy:


http://www.ranch26bar.com/THESHOOTIST.html

Great story Bill, The shootist is my favorite movie, I thought Dukes acting was second to none in this movie. I also beleive in real liofe if he could have he would have wanted to go out this way instead of the slowness of cancer.

I also must say it took me many years before i could watch this film because i couln't stand the thought of duke being killed. thats the kind of impact the duke had on me.

One of the all time greatest films.
Two very small character touches really elevate Duke's character for me.
The first is when he tells Doc that the ornate pillow he stole from a whorehouse in Creed. The smile on Duke's face is priceless and reminds me of his younger self.
The second moment is the look of satisfaction on his face when Gillem flings the gun away in the bar. It's a look that says he accomplished steering a boy on the right path. No words could have done better.



We deal in lead, friend.

This one of my all time great wayne films. the acting by all is second to none. last year i was given a personal tour of warner brothers back lot were most of this film was made. the scene when he first rode into town,doc hostetlers house the street where he first meets richard boone and the acme saloon which was a police station at the time i was there.

That must have been really cool, Bill. Did you take any pictures? Has it changed much? It has been 30 years or so. I envy you all the same.

Mark

That must have been really cool, Bill. Did you take any pictures? Has it changed much? It has been 30 years or so. I envy you all the same.

Mark
Yes I did take pictures but not with a digital.I,am still a bit of a dinosaur.I was amazed at how much stood right out at you,like Dr.Hoetetlers house the gazebo in the center of town. The tour was given to myself and Joe Zuke by a fine gentelmen and Duke collector by the name of Foster Dennis. Also saw the outside set for the show ER. This was in sept. of last year in the 80s and fake snow everywhere to make it look like the dead of winter in Chicago. Buy the way the el tracks they drove under was about 40 feet long.

Here is one of the better known quotes from this film, and also a favorite of many members (several have used it in their signatures) - just click on the quote below (which is a link) to hear Duke's voice.

"I won't be wronged, I won't be insulted..." (http://www.cowboyway.com/Clips/IWontBeWronged.wav)

Was watching the Shootist this weekend and I was wondering about the scene where Duke gives Ron the shooting lesson. Does anyone know if JW actually did his own shooting when that tight group hits the left fork of the tree?

Tbone,

I'd guess that was special effects and not real shooting.

On a different note, I was watching Clint Eastwood's Gran Torino the other day. Anyone notice toward the end of the movie as Eastwood was preparing to visit the street gang's house? The sets he was taking, preparing for the visit? Look awful familiar.

ET

Tbone,

I'd guess that was special effects and not real shooting.

On a different note, I was watching Clint Eastwood's Gran Torino the other day. Anyone notice toward the end of the movie as Eastwood was preparing to visit the street gang's house? The sets he was taking, preparing for the visit? Look awful familiar.

ET



Good point ET, but it seems all of Clint's location work
was centered around Michigan,
whereas The Shootist was filmed in Nevada
and the studios in California

Good point ET, but it seems all of Clint's location work
was centered around Michigan,
whereas The Shootist was filmed in Nevada
and the studios in California

Whoops. I need to do more proof reading. Not "sets" he was taking. But STEPS he was taking, as he was preparing to die. I told me wife at the time, this is just like the Shootist, Eastwood's preparation and the Duke's (in the Shootist) were very similar.

ET

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I suspect this Pat Berman, the review writer of the Shootist, for the Columbia Record, is more than likely just another liberal newspaper writer.
Fortunately, in this day and age, folks are waking up, and the newspaper owners wonder where all the people that buy newspapers went.

Chester (xmastree):newyear: (xmastree)

Ouch, Chester. That stings. As a card-carrying member of the Liberal party I'm proud to be a fan of John Wayne. I make no secret of it and I'm certainly not ashamed of it. There's plenty of room in the world for all of us to respect one another.

While I'd never read that particular review before I knew that there were many undeserved slings and arrows aimed at The Shootist when it premiered. At this point one must wonder whether the Western genre was being punished for its demise rather than the film itself at that moment. Family Westerns were dead and buried by 1976. Unless a Western showed blood and brains squirting from bullet wounds, few would attend the film.

In my humble opinion, few critics understood The Shootist when it premiered. Pat Berman missed it by a mile. She evidently confused it with a sequel to everything else Mr Wayne made.

John Wayne himself had intended to go on filming more movies. From what I have read, Mr Wayne had great difficulty in making that film. I believe it was Maureen O'Hara (please, do correct me if I'm wrong) who wrote Lauren Bacall said that Mr Wayne was coughing up blood during filming and was on O2 at all times when he wasn't on camera. Still, it was never meant to be his swan song.

My uncle lost a lung to lung cancer and he lived a very long 20 years on a single lung, suffering all that time. It was not pleasant nor was it a happy life for him. He had to retire immediately and he never worked on anything again. I can only imagine how it was for Mr Wayne. I have the greatest respect for him that he not only completed the film after being hospitalised but that he intended to go on making more films. John Wayne was truly an inspiration to us all.

Now I've battled cancer myself I understand what a real hero John Wayne truly was to us all. I wouldn't usually write about my personal life when I've been a member such a short time on a board, but I feel this is relevant.

Name-calling is never helpful, Chester. During the time this film premiered, remember that violence in America was increasing and people were wondering if it was connected to violence on television and in films. The Vietnam War was fresh in memory. My brother, a Marine Ranger, was still MIA.

I came here to talk about The Shootist with friends. If Liberals aren't welcome here then never mind.

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