STAGECOACH

DIRECTED BY JOHN FORD
PRODUCED BY WALTER WANGER
UNITED ARTISTS

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INFORMATION FROM IMDb

Plot Summary
A simple stagecoach trip is complicated by the fact that Geronimo
is on the warpath in the area.
The passengers on the coach include a a drunken doctor, a pregnant woman,
a bank manager who has taken off with his client's money, and the famous Ringo Kid,

Full Cast
Claire Trevor .... Dallas
John Wayne .... The Ringo Kid
Andy Devine .... Buck
John Carradine .... Hatfield
Thomas Mitchell .... Doc Boone
Louise Platt .... Lucy Mallory
George Bancroft .... Marshal Curly Wilcox
Donald Meek .... Samuel Peacock
Berton Churchill .... Henry Gatewood
Tim Holt .... Lt. Blanchard
Tom Tyler .... Luke Plummer
Dorothy Appleby .... Girl in saloon (uncredited)
Frank Baker .... (uncredited)
Chief John Big Tree .... Indian scout (uncredited)
Ted Billings .... Bit part (uncredited)
Wiggie Blowne .... Bit part (uncredited)
Danny Borzage .... (uncredited)
Edward Brady .... Lordsburg saloon owner (uncredited)
Fritzi Brunette .... Bit part (uncredited)
Yakima Canutt .... Cavalry scout (uncredited)
Nora Cecil .... Boone's landlady (uncredited)
Steve Clemente .... Bit (uncredited)
Bill Cody .... Rancher (uncredited)
Jack Curtis .... Bartender (uncredited)
Marga Ann Deighton .... Mrs. Pickett (uncredited)
Patsy Doyle .... Bit part (uncredited)
Tex Driscoll .... Bit part (uncredited)
Franklyn Farnum .... Deputy Frank (uncredited)
Francis Ford .... Billy Pickett (uncredited)
Brenda Fowler .... Mrs. Gatewood (uncredited)
Helen Gibson .... Girl in saloon (uncredited)
Robert Homans .... Ed (editor) (uncredited)
William Hopper .... Sergeant (uncredited)
Si Jenks .... Bartender (uncredited)
Cornelius Keefe .... Capt. Whitney (uncredited)
Florence Lake .... Nancy Whitney (uncredited)
Duke R. Lee .... Lordsburg sheriff (uncredited)
Theodore Lorch .... Lordsburg express agent (uncredited)
Chris-Pin Martin .... Chris (uncredited)
Jim Mason .... Jim (Tonto express agent) (uncredited)
Louis Mason .... Tonto sheriff (uncredited)
Merrill McCormick .... Ogler (uncredited)
J.P. McGowan .... (uncredited)
Walter McGrail .... Capt. Sickel (uncredited)
Paul McVey .... Pony Express agent (uncredited)
Kent Odell .... Billy Pickett Jr (uncredited)
Artie Ortego .... Lordsburg bar patron (uncredited)
Vester Pegg .... Hank Plummer (uncredited)
Jack Pennick .... Jerry (bartender) (uncredited)
Joe Rickson .... Ike Plummer (uncredited)
Elvira Ríos .... Yakima (uncredited)
Buddy Roosevelt .... Rancher (uncredited)
Chuck Stubbs .... (uncredited)
Harry Tenbrook .... Telegraph operator (uncredited)
Mary Kathleen Walker .... Lucy's infant (uncredited)
Bryant Washburn .... Capt. Simmons (uncredited)
Whitehorse .... Indian chief (uncredited)
Hank Worden ... Cavalryman Extra (uncredited)

Writing Credits
Ernest Haycox (story Stage to Lordsburg)
Dudley Nichols
Ben Hecht uncredited

Produced
Walter Wagner
John Ford .... (uncredited)

Original Music
Gerard Carbonara (uncredited)

Cinematography
Bert Glennon

Stunts
Yakima Canutt .... stunt coordinator (uncredited)
Ken Cooper .... stunts (uncredited)
Johnny Eckert .... stunts (uncredited)
Jack Mohr .... stunts (uncredited)
David Sharpe .... stunts (uncredited)
Henry Wills .... stunts (uncredited)
Billy Yellow .... stunt rigger (uncredited)

Trivia
Asked why, in the climactic chase scene, the Indians didn't simply shoot the horses to stop the stagecoach, director John Ford replied, "Because that would have been the end of the movie."

This was the first of many films that John Ford filmed in Monument Valley, Arizona. Others were: My Darling Clementine (1946), Fort Apache (1948), She Wore a Yellow Ribbon (1949), Wagon Master (1950), Rio Grande (1950), The Searchers (1956), Sergeant Rutledge (1960) and his last western, Cheyenne Autumn (1964).

The first of many collaborations between John Ford and John Wayne.

When the film was being cast, John Ford lobbied hard for John Wayne but producer Walter Wanger kept saying no. It was only after constant persistence on Ford's part that Wanger finally gave in. Wanger's reservations were based on Wayne's string of B-movies, in which he came across as being a less than competent actor, and the box office failure of Raoul Walsh's The Big Trail (1930) in 1930, Wayne's first serious starring role.
a
John Wayne's 80th film.

John Ford loved the Monument Valley location so much that the actual stagecoach journey traverses the valley three times.

In 1939 there was no paved road through Monument Valley, hence the reason why it hadn't been used as a movie location before (it wasn't paved until the 1950s). Harry Goulding, who ran a trading post there, had heard that John Ford was planning a big-budget Western so he traveled to Hollywood, armed with over 100 photographs, and threatened to camp out on Ford's doorstep until the director saw him. Ford saw him almost immediately and was instantly sold on the location, particularly when he realized that its remoteness would free him from studio interference.

The interior sets all have ceilings, an unusual practice at the time for studio filming. This was to create a claustrophobic effect in complete counterpoint to the wide open expanse of Monument Valley.

David O. Selznick was interested in making the film, but only if he could have Gary Cooper as the Ringo Kid and Marlene Dietrich as Dallas.

John Ford's first sound Western, and his first in that genre in 13 years. Westerns had fallen out favor with the coming of sound, as it was tricky to record on location.

Local Navajo Indians played the Apaches. The film's production was a huge economic boost to the local impoverished population, giving jobs to hundreds of locals as extras and handymen.

Hosteen Tso, a local shaman, promised John Ford the exact kind of cloud formations he wanted. They duly appeared.

John Ford gave John Wayne the script, asking him for any suggestions as to who could play the Ringo Kid. Wayne suggested Lloyd Nolan, not realizing that Ford was baiting him with the part. Once filming began, however, Ford was merciless to Wayne, constantly undermining him. This psychological tactic was designed to make Wayne start feeling some real emotions, and not to be intimidated by acting alongside the likes of such seasoned professionals as Thomas Mitchell.

In 1939 Claire Trevor was the film's biggest star, and thus commanded the highest salary.

The premise of Ernest Haycox's story comes from Guy de Maupassant's famous story 'Boule de Suif', which takes place in Normandy during the 1870 Franco-Prussian War.

Orson Welles privately watched this film about 40 times while he was making Citizen Kane (1941).

Near the end of the movie, Luke Plummer (Tom Tyler) has a pair of black aces and a pair of black eights. This is the notorious "dead man's hand" supposed to have been held by Wild Bill Hickok before he was killed.

A device known as a "Running W" was used on the Indians' horses during the sequence where they are chasing the stagecoach. Strong, thin wires are fixed to a metal post, then the other end of the wires are attached to an iron clamp that encircles the legs of a horse, and the post is anchored into the ground. The horse is then ridden at full gallop, and when the wire's maximum length is reached - just when the rider is "shot" - the animal's legs are jerked out from underneath it, causing it to tumble violently and throw the "shot" rider off. The trouble was that the rider knew when the horse was going to fall but the horse didn't, resulting in many horses either being killed outright or having to be destroyed because of broken limbs incurred during the falls. The use of the "Running W" was eventually discontinued after many complaints from both inside and outside the film industry.

John Ford originally wanted Ward Bond to play Buck the stage driver but gave the role to Andy Devine when he found that Bond couldn't drive a "six-up" stagecoach and there wasn't time to teach him.

John Wayne's salary was considerably less than all of his co-stars', apart from John Carradine.

It's believed by many that the famous line "A man's gotta do what a man's gotta do," widely attributed to a John Wayne Western character, is spoken by Wayne in this film, however, it isn't. His character, The Ringo Kid, instead says "There are some things a man just can't run away from," when asked why he intends to stay and avenge his family's murders rather than try to escape to Mexico.

Producer Walter Wanger wanted Gary Cooper for the role of Ringo but Cooper's fees were too high. Bruce Cabot unsuccessfully tested for it before John Ford got his wish and cast John Wayne.

Film debut of Mickey Simpson.

Although Louis Gruenberg receives screen credit for the musical score, his contribution was not used and his name was omitted for the Academy Award nomination.

The hat that John Wayne wears is his own. He would wear it in many westerns during the next two decades before retiring it after Howard Hawks' Rio Bravo (1959), because it was simply "falling apart." After that, the hat was displayed under glass in his home.

Ranked #9 on the American Film Institute's list of the 10 greatest films in the genre "Western" in June 2008.

Pictured on one of four 25¢ US commemorative postage stamps issued 23 March 1990 honoring classic films released in 1939. The stamp featured Stagecoach (1939), Beau Geste (1939), The Wizard of Oz (1939), and Gone with the Wind (1939).

Doctor Boone's misquote, 'Is this the face that wrecked a thousand ships/ and burned the towerless tops of Ilium?', is from The Tragical History of Doctor Faustus by Christopher Marlowe, Scene xiv.

"Screen Director's Playhouse" broadcast a 30 minute radio adaptation of the movie on January 9, 1949 with John Wayne and Claire Trevor reprising their film roles.

"Academy Award Theater" broadcast a 30 minute radio adaptation of the movie on May 4, 1946 with Claire Trevor reprising her film role.

John Ford’s classic film is based on a short story, Stage to Lordsburg, by Ernest Haycox, published in Collier’s Magazine in 1937, in turn, based on Guy de Maupassant’s Boule de Suif, set during the 1870 Franco-Prussian War.

And apart from the geographical locale, John Wayne’s character name was wisely changed from Malpais Bill to the Ringo Kid.

The film established Monument Valley, on the Arizona-Utah border, as an icon of the American Old West, although, of the passengers, only John Wayne actually trekked out to Utah. None of the principals made it past California’s San Fernando Valley.

Monument Valley, an area of striking, flat-topped mesas and buttes, was a tough location in 1938, at the end of a 200-mile dirt road from Flagstaff, Arizona. The Navajo nation, already troubled by disease and unemployment, were employed to play Apaches – one of the many nations they were to play over the years. The Valley is not a National Park, as you might expect, but a Tribal Park still belonging to, and managed by, the Navajo.

But, striking as it is, Monument Valley is only a part of Stagecoach. The river crossing is the Kern River, near to Kernville, 40 miles east of Bakersfield, California. The old wagon cut at Newhall, on I-5 – also called Fremont Pass – is the entrance to the dry lake.

Nearby Chatsworth and Calabasas, southern California, also provided locations. The chase by Indians was staged at Lucerne Dry Lake near Victorville, California, recreated by stunt artist Yakima Canutt from the 1937 Monogram movie Riders of the Dawn, which was filmed at the same location. To soften the ground for filming, 20 acres of ground had to be dug up by tractor.

The real journey of the movie, though, is from the Western Street at Republic Studios (the town of ‘Tonto’) to the Goldwyn Studios (‘Lordsburg’), where the interiors were filmed

Goofs
* Crew or equipment visible: As the stagecoach crosses the river at the burnt out ferry, the shadow of a camera is clearly visible on the driver's back.

* Continuity: In the begining of the film, when the stagecoach is going into Tonto street, we see its shadow to one side. In the next shot the shadow is on the other side.

* Continuity: In the fight between the stagecoach's passengers and the Indians, we see the same image of one Indian, with a lance in his hand, falling with his horse two times. One time shot by Marshal Curly and another time shot by Hatfield.

* Revealing mistakes: In the beginning sequence when the stage is coming into town you can see that the buildings are stage facades as the camera shot is at an angle and it is clear there is no structure behind the false front.

* Revealing mistakes: In the scene at Apache Wells where Chris rushes in to wake the Marshall played by George Bancroft to say his wife has run off, Bancroft and John Wayne are chained together at the ankle. George Bancroft delivers his line but moves his chained leg to far, jerking the chains around Wayne's ankle. Wayne yelps and grabs his ankle. As Bancroft turns toward Wayne to undo the chains, Bancroft is clearly struggling not to break up laughing as Wayne glares at him.

Memorable Quotes (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0031971/quotes)

Filming Locations
Beale's Cut, Newhall, California, USA
Calabasas, California, USA
Canon City, Colorado, USA
Chatsworth, Los Angeles, California, USA
Iverson Ranch, Chatsworth, Los Angeles, California, USA
Kayenta, Arizona, USA
Kern County, California, USA
Kern River, Bakersfield, California, USA
Kern River, California, USA
Kernville, California, USA
Lucerne Dry Lake, California, USA
Mesa, Arizona, USA
Monument Valley, Utah, USA
Newhall, California, USA
RKO Encino Ranch - Balboa Boulevard & Burbank Boulevard, Encino, Los Angeles, California, USA
Victorville, California, USA
Samuel Goldwyn/Warner Hollywood Studios (The Lot ) - 1041 N. Formosa Ave.,

What can you say about the film that made Duke a star!

Hi

Talking of continuity when Ford was filming the stagecach being chased by the Indians it appeares that the coach is travellig from left to right and later from right to left.

This wasn't a goof Ford wanted to catch as much light as possible so in order to do so he turned the stagecoach round.

Orson Wells thought that Ford was the only director who could have got away with it.


Regards

Arthur

Originally posted by arthurarnell@Jan 7 2006, 01:03 PM
Hi

Talking of continuity when Ford was filming the stagecach being chased by the Indians it appeares that the coach is travellig from left to right and later from right to left.

This wasn't a goof Ford wanted to catch as much light as possible so in order to do so he turned the stagecoach round.

Orson Wells thought that Ford was the only director who could have got away with it.
Regards

Arthur
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Hi Arthur,
Thank you for this detail, I didn't saw it before. But the scene of the chase are so brilliant that it doesnt matter, that it has nothing to do with reality. I like the way it is shoot and all that horse stunts, and geneus Canutt (I have read his memories about filming this scene in Dan Fords book, it seems from the book that it was Duke who bring him to the picture).
Regards,
Vera

Hi Vera

Apparantly Cannutt did the stunt in two parts the first sitting on the horses and then the part where he let the coach role over him.

At the end of the shot Ford was anxious that they had caught it all on film as he was afraid to do it again.

Cannutt would have been quite happy to repeat it.

Regards

Arthur

Hi all,
Just came from the theater were The Stagecoach were shown on the big screen. It is really another impression of the movie. But the copy didn't seem so sharp as on DVD, I guess were did they got it.
I really like this movie, the way how Ford depictes different kinds of people (it is seems to me that there is no unimportaint people for him) and of course great performance of Duke. I enjoy it all!
Before the performance it was said that Kurosava thought that Ford was the gretest director and he influenced him greatly.
Regards,
Senta

Memorable Quotes

First line, spoken by Duke, in an 'A' MOVIE,

Hi ya, buck, Hi ya Curley

Henry, the Ringo Kid: Well, there are some things a man just can't run away from.

Dallas: Well, you gotta live no matter what happens.

Marshal Curly Wilcox: You can find another wife.
Chris: Sure I can find another wife. But she take my rifle and horse. Oh, I'll never sell her. I love her so much. I beat her with a whip and she never gets tired.
Dr. Josiah Boone: Your wife?
Chris: No, my horse. I can find another wife easy, yes, but not a horse like that!

Ringo Kid: Well, I guess you can't break out of prison and into society in the same week.

Ringo Kid: You might need me and this here Winchester, Curly.

[the telegraph breaks off in mid-message]
Capt. Sickel: Well? What's wrong?
Telegraph operator: The line went dead, sir.
Capt. Sickel: What have you got here?
Telegraph operator: Only the first word, sir.
Capt. Sickel: (reading) Geronimo.

[Lt. Blanchard has just informed the stagecoach occupants that the cavalry will not escort them to Lordsburg]
Marshal Curly Wilcox: This stage is going to Lordsburg. If you think it isn't safe, we can get there without you soldier boys.

Henry Gatewood: So you're the notorious Ringo Kid.
The Ringo Kid: My friends just call me Ringo - nickname since I was a kid. My name is Henry.

The Ringo Kid: That was my kid brother that broke his arm. You did a good job, Doc, even if you were drunk.
Dr. Josiah Boone: Thank you, son. Professional compliments are always pleasing.

Marshal Curly Wilcox: Now folks, if we push on we can get to Apache Wells by sundown.
Soldiers there will give us an escort as far as the ferry. After that, it's a hoot and a holler to Lordsburg.
We got four men who handle firearms - five with you, Ringo. Doc can shoot if sober.

[the stagecoach occupants vote on whether to continue without a cavalry escort]
Marshal Curly Wilcox: You, Doc?
Dr. Josiah Boone: I'm not only a philosopher, sir, I'm a fatalist. Somewhere, sometime,
there may be the right bullet or the wrong bottle waiting for Josiah Boone. Why worry about when or where?

[Mrs. Mallory, a passenger, has just given birth]
Buck: Hey, Curly, do you think I should charge Mrs. Mallory's baby half fare?

Dr. Josiah Boone: I'll take that shotgun, Luke.
Luke Plummer: You'll take it in the belly if you don't get out of my way.

Ed (editor): Billy! Billy! Kill that story about the Republican Convention in Chicago and take this down.
"The Ringo Kid was killed on Main Street in Lordsburg tonight. And among the additional dead were..." Leave that blank for a spell.
Billy Pickett: I didn't hear any shootin', Ed.
Ed (editor): You will, Billy, you will.

Dr. Josiah Boone: Jerry, I'll admit as one man to another that, economically, I haven't been of much value to you.
But do you suppose you could put one on credit?
Jerry (bartender): If talk was money, Doc, you'd be the best customer I had.

Buck: If I was you, I'd let them shoot it out.
Marshal Curly Wilcox: Let who?
Buck: Luke Plummer and the Kid. There would be a lot more peace in this territory if that Luke Plummer was so full of lead he couldn't hold his liquor.

Henry, the Ringo Kid: Hold it!

Buck: If there's anything I don't like, it's driving a stagecoach through Apache country.

[first lines]
Cavalry scout: These hills here are full of Apaches. They've burnt every ranch building in sight.
[referring to Indian scout]
Cavalry scout: He had a brush with them last night. Says they're being stirred up by Geronimo.
Capt. Sickel: Geronimo? How do we know he isn't lying?
Cavalry scout: No, he's a Cheyenne. They hate the Apaches worse than we do.

[last lines]
Dr. Josiah Boone: Well, they're saved from the blessings of civilization.
Marshal Curly Wilcox: Yeah.
[laughs]
Marshal Curly Wilcox: Doc, I'll buy you a drink.
Dr. Josiah Boone: Just one.

Dr. Josiah Boone: [drunkenly to his hideous landlady upon eviction] Is this the face that wrecked 1000 ships and burned the towerless tops of Illium?
Farewell, fair Helen.

Dr. Josiah Boone: You had broken your arm, I believe. It was Christmas Eve when your parents brought you in.
I was celebrating, having a few drinks with the boys. I had just been discharged from the Union Army after the War of the Rebellion.
Hatfield: You mean the War Against the Southern Confederacy.
Dr. Josiah Boone: I don't mean anything of the kind.
Ringo Kid: It was my kid brother whose arm you set, Doc.

Hatfield: A gentleman doesn't smoke in the presence of a lady.
Dr. Josiah Boone: Three weeks ago I took a bullet out of a man who was shot by a gentleman. The bullet was in his back!
Hatfield: You mean to insinuate...
Ringo Kid: Sit down, mister. Doc don't mean no harm.

INFORMATION IMDb

I noticed they are playing a 1992 remake of Stagecoach on TV today. I looked it up on the net and also saw a 1996 version. Has anyone seen either of these?

I have seen the 1986 version with Johnny Cash, Willie Nelson, Waylon Jennings and Kris Kristoferson. It is different the the original and obviously you have a bunch of singers so the acting is not great, but it is watchable. I have also seen the 1960's(not sure of year at the moment) version with Ann Margeret. I liked that one, it follows the original pretty close.

Though I love Ann Margaret, and liked most of the actors in the 1960's version--I disliked that version (Sorry Todd) :) and have not seen any other so I cannot comment.

Hi,

Whilst researching the Movie Locations,
I can across this trivia, and thought it worth posting,

Information from
The Worldwide Guide to Movie Locations

Wisely, John Waynes character name was changed from Malpais Bill to the Ringo Kid.

The film established Monument Valley, on the Arizona-Utah border, as an icon of the American West, although, of the passengers, only John Wayne actually trekked out to Utah. None of the principals made it past Californiaís San Fernando Valley.

Monument Valley, an area of striking, flat-topped mesas and buttes, was a tough location in 1938, at the end of a 200-mile dirt road from Flagstaff, Arizona. The Navajo, already troubled by disease and unemployment, were employed to play Apaches – one of the many nations they were to play over the years. The Valley is not a National Park, as you might expect, but a Tribal Park still belonging to, and managed by, the Navajo nation.

But the Valley is only a part of Stagecoach. The river crossing is the Kern River, near to Kernville, 40 miles east of Bakersfield, California. The old wagon cut at Newhall, on I-5 ‚ also called Fremont Pass ‚ is the entrance to the dry lake.

Nearby Chatsworth and Calabasas also provided locations. The chase by Indians was staged at the Muroc Dry Lake salt flats near Victorville, California, recreated by stunt artist Yakima Canutt from the 1937 Monogram movie Riders of the Dawn, which was filmed at the same location.

To soften the ground for filming, 20 acres of ground had to be dug up by tractor. The real journey of the movie, though, is from the Western Street at Republic Studios (the town of 'Tonto') to the Goldwyn Studios ('Lordsburg'), where the interiors were filmed.

Keith;

Here are a few more Pictures and little story from "Stagecoach" in Black and White. :rolleyes:

STAGECOACH (http://www.ranch26bar.com/STAGECOACH.html)

Bill :cowboy:

Hi All

Watched Stagecoach tonight. Great show.

Just out of curiosity you know the scene were the Stagecoach picks up Ringo is this location repeated just before going into the Indian chase except the Stagecoach is filmed from the right as opposed to straight on.

Watched the film many times but never noticed that before.


Mike

Hi Mike

The scene when Duke twirls his rifle was apparently filmed in a studio according to Michael Munn's book the man behind the myth.

In addition to this the book also claims that this movie did not make duke an overnight star as had been previously claimed and Duke would have to resort to supporting roles for another few years until he established himself as a huge star.

:agent:

Hi Robbie

I would say he was right on both counts. The moving of the camera to a close up on John Wayne was more than likely done in a contolled environment like a studio.

Whilst Stagecoach was a great movie and got John Wayne noticed it took the films between Stagecoach to 1945 to cement his status. He was still in supporting star staus as late as They Were Expendable in 1945 and Fort Apache in 1948. Fonda and Montgomery being the main stars for Ford.

After, She Wore a Yellow Ribbon, Red River & Sands of Iwo Jima with the exception of cameos he was always the main star.



Mike

Red River was possibly more important than Stagecoach. Duke however turned down a movie in 1939 that proved a big mistake. The movie was to be 'North West mounted police' and it was released in 1940. Duke was offered the role by Cecil B Demille and turned it down due to the fact that Demille refused to give him a role in the 1936 western the Plainsman thinking that Duke was not the right choice as he was only a B movie actor.

However Duke made several important movie between Stagecoach and 1948 when Red River was released. These movies included 'Tall in the Saddle', 'They were Expendable', 'Back to Bataan'. 'Flying Tigers' and 'The Long Vogage Home'. Not a bad collection of movies from the rising star and I am sure there were other good movies made by Duke within this period that I have yet to see.

:agent:

I think Red River was the most important one. I believe Ford's comment on seeing it was " I didnt think the SOB could act" I think it was a turning point
in terms of films John Wayne did and was offered as well as his relationship with Ford.

The films you mentioned are proberably the best of the war years although I don't personally like The Long Voyage Home.

I think John did himself a favour turning down De Mille. Whilst his biblical epics hold up fairly well most of the other films he made have dated very badly.


Mike

Duke's Movie Locations

Check out this site for the story of Stagecoach locations


Stagecoach- Locations (http://employees.oxy.edu/jerry/stagecoa.htm):


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Filming Locations

Beale's Cut, Newhall, California, USA

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Calabasas, California, USA

Canon City, Colorado, USA

Chatsworth, Los Angeles, California, USA

Iverson Ranch, Chatsworth, Los Angeles, California, USA

Kayenta, Arizona, USA

Kern River, California, USA

Kernville, California, USA

Lucerne Dry Lake, California, USA

Luzerne Dry Lake, Victorville, California, USA

Mesa, Arizona, USA

Monument Valley, Arizona/Utah, USA

Newhall, California, USA

RKO Encino Ranch, Encino, Los Angeles, California, USA

Samuel Goldwyn/Warner Hollywood Studios - 1041 N. Formosa Ave., Hollywood, Los Angeles, California, USA
(studio)

Victorville, California, USA

Most of these locations, are discussed
in Movie Discussions,

Duke's Movie Locations

Wow, that's an amazing number of locations, for one movie! Thanks, Keith, for compiling and sharing all that info!

Chester :newyear:

Keith;

I hate to keep doing this to you But I have spent Many Days and Months in Moument Valley doing Air Work for For Films and T.V. Commercials, and the Shots that You have of Monument Valley with The Right and Left Mittens and "Butte A and the Wall" were Taken in Arizona, not Utah, and Kayenta is the Gateway from the South in to Monument Valley.

Utah is a Few Miles to the North, and Many people Make this Mistake as Gouldings Lodge is just inside of Utah to the North.

Bill :cowboy:
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However MV is in both Arizona and Utah

Click on here for more

Monument Valley (http://www.dukewayne.com/thread2516.html)

Sorry, I was just trying to help on somthing that I know a little about. You are right, Monument Valley is in Both Utah and Arizona, but the Mittens, Butte A, The Wall, Fords Point and The Totum Poll is in Arizona.

I will not bother you anymore.

The map on this Site will show you most of what is called Monument Valley and is not my Map but the Navajo Tribes Map.
http://www.wyntoontrip.com/

Bill :ohwell:

I don't remember when I saw Stagecoach for the first time, but I have saved all programmes of the Finnish Film Archive since I started going there in 1980. In -82 I've written a note about Stagecoach "Haven't lost anything as seen for the second time. John Wayne is lovely".
Today I have to change the second for nth, but the rest of the statement remains the same

Here are 4 posters! The second one is a 1944 reissue, the third is a 1948 reissue, and the fourth one is from Belgium.

In the one from Belgium, is Andy Devine yawning or hollering?

Looks like he's yawning to me.

French translation of the title is completely stupid!:ohmy:

The story of Stagecoach looks like Guy de Maupassant's short story Boule de suif.

French translation of the title is completely stupid!:ohmy:

I never noticed that till you mentioned it, but you are right.

The same for the so poetic title She Wore A Yellow Ribbon (1949) translated by La Charge Héroïque !

The Heroic Charge? That's sounds like an episode of a TV show I watched...

Shortly, Clive Woollands will be posting his Film Facts under his user name on this board, chisum2, but for now he has given me permission to copy and paste his past entries from his Yahoo forum devoted to John Wayne. Thanks, Clive!

Now here are the film facts for the film that made 'Duke' famous, Stagecoach.

Producer: Walter Wanger. Screenplay: Dudley Nichols. Cinematographer:
Bert Glennon. Art Director: Alexander Toluboff. Editors: Otto
Lovering, Dorothy Spencer. Distribution: United Artists. Locations:
California, Utah, Arizona. Cost of production: $531,300.
Date of production: 1938.

Orson Welles claimed he watched Stagecoach 40 times in preparation for making his film Citizen Kane.

Stagecoach was John Ford's first Western since the silent days of cinema. His previous Western had been 1926's Three Bad Men.

Bruce Cabot, who played the impresario in the original King Kong, tested for the role of The Ringo Kid.

The 7 Academy Awards Stagecoach was nominated for were, Best Picture, Best Director, Best Cinematography, Best Editing, Best Score (Win), Best Art Direction and Best Supporting Actor (a win for Thomas Mitchell).

Stagecoach was remade in colour in 1966, with Alex Cord playing the Ringo Kid, Ann-Margret as Dallas, and an ensemble cast including Bing Crosby (in his last movie), Stephanie Powers, Van Heflin and Slim Pickens.

have just watched this movie for the first time. thought that the tension between the characters was great, it gave suspense and tension to the movie. the budding love between waynes character and the saloon girl dallas made for a good love interest, you got to see them build up from a closed bud to a flower in bloom. how the change between the two women changes from the beginning to the end is reinforced by the way the towns ladies react to dallas when they get into the town and how lucy talks to her like she is someone.

cheers smokey

Smokey,
You Hit the Nail Right on the Head, and this was what Made the Film Great and Made Duke a Star !
Ringo the Bad Man and Dallas the Bar Girl Save the Day, and is a Great Love Story !!!
:wub:
Bill
:cowboy:

One of the early major motion pictures to come out of Hollywood
was a Western epic called Stagecoach.
Along with Claire Trevor,Thomas Mitchel and George Bancroft,there
appeared a young fresh player named John Wayne.

About 1960,It was in Stagecoach that I found J.W. in screen for the first time.
and since then I love J.W.
fortunately,
I could seen old great pictures by reason of reran boom which happened in Japan.
From Stagecoach to The Shootist,He has a tender eye to lady.
Yes ,He is a real good guy.
rare old pictures, i attached. Duke is so young.

Regards,
H.sanada

Nice photos H.sanada Thanks for sharing them with us.

Mike

Here is an example of the book. It has a few Western short stories, Stagecoach being one of them. Enjoy!

Mark

http://www.dukewayne.com/imagehosting/2147f9b86808d07.jpg

Here's a Japanese press sheet for Stagecoach.
I got it from the movie distributor free of charge about fifty years ago.
Today, it is worth thousand of dollars!
When I saw the price tag of this in the shopwindow,hesitated whether
to sell this or not to sell.
But,i still have it.:wink_smile:

H.sanada

Thanks for sharing that with us, H.sanada. I bet that does test your will when you have something that you love but could get a lot of money for. But, money spends quickly and then you have nothing. It's better to hold on to a thing you care about, I think. :shades_smile:

Mark

Thanks for sharing that with us, H.sanada. I bet that does test your will when you have something that you love but could get a lot of money for. But, money spends quickly and then you have nothing. It's better to hold on to a thing you care about, I think. :shades_smile:

Mark

Yes Mark,
I can not take the memory of DUKE at any money.

H.sanada

Here is a 1939 magazine issue about Stagecoach from England, I believe. Another great find I got off ebay a few years ago.

Mark

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I can't think of anything to say against this film. I feel it's everything a good western should be. It must have been hard for JW with John Ford needling him to get the desired emotions on film, but in the end perhaps he felt it was worth it.

Was this movie inspired by Guy de Maupassant's short story 'Boule de suif'?

Hi didisha,

We do know that Stagecoach was lifted from
the well nown story by Ernest Haycox
Stage to Lordsburg

It does seem, what you say, could have some substance!
and here is a piece written by Ernest Haycox

Lastly, there have been many parallels drawn between "Stage to Lordsburg" and the earlier story "Boile de Suif (Ball of Fat)" by the French author Guy de Maupassant. There is a good chance that Haycox was exposed to Mussapant's work while a student at the University of Oregon, but rather than belabor this debate further, we have added the original story Boile de Suif by Guy de Maupassant to The Library and leave it to you to draw your own conclusions.

"Stage to Lordsburg" originally appeared in the April 10, 1937 issue of Collier's.

Hi, I'm from Italy, few days ago I've seen "Stagecoach" in english and with a different soundtrack from that I use to listen.
Somebody knows if there are two different music soundtracks of this movie?

Hi Frank

WELCOME to The Original JWMB.

Please take a look around,
we're a friendly bunch of folks,
and there is a wealth of information to see,
regarding the great man.


You may find these links useful:-


John Wayne:- A Newbies Guide to Duke
(http://www.dukewayne.com/showthread.php?t=4134)


Link to Duke's Movies, Co-Stars- Pals Of The Saddle and Movie Locations (http://www.dukewayne.com/forumdisplay.php?f=5")

As we have a dedicated thread already for this movie,
I have merged your post here.
In answer to your question,
I believe there is ony one soundtrack for the original film.
Unless anyone knows differently!

Take a look here (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0031971/soundtrack)

Hi all
I read the senario of Stagecoach many times.
To my surprise,It is written in refined English.
I guess this movie is the good teacher to learn
living English.
Of course, it has many slung. but generally sounds
good modern English.
ain't, gonna, in', gotta ,yoou'da,get along,and so
aren't they used by Americans?
Here's famous Ringo Kid 's line in Stagecoach.

"Well,there's some things a man just can't run away from."

"Yeah,that's it. Look,Miss Dallass.You got no folks,neither have I,
well,maybe I'm talking a lot for granted.but I watched you with that baby-
that other woman's baby,You looked well well,I still got a ranch across the Border . It's a nice place, a real nice place trees,grass,water,there's a cabin half built. A man could live there,and a Woman. Will you go?"

"We ain't never gonna say goodbye."

(bump)ing this thread to the top -

Stumpy had an interesting question, which he posed in the "What Was the Last Western You Watched?" thread, but I thought I'd bring it here, to the dedicated thread, to promote the conversation -

I've been thinkin' I'd better catch up on some Duke viewing while I'm still able so yesterday evening I watched "Stagecoach" and this afternoon I watched "Red River" (each for about the 30th or 40th time apiece).

Both brought to mind a couple of questions I'd like to ask my fellow Duke fans:

a. How many of you remember the Ringo Kid's actual name in "Stagecoach"?

b. With what act of Dunson's did you most disagree in "Red River"?
It's been such a long time since I've watched it, I admit I haven't the foggiest idea :headbonk:.

But I'm sure others know.

Chester :newyear:

Just recalling on memory, I think his name was Henry. I don't remember his last name, though. anyone else know it from memory without checking? :wink_smile:

Mark

Just recalling on memory, I think his name was Henry.

Give Mark a big seegar - he got it right.

(I don't think his last name was mentioned in the film, Mark.)

I had to watch it two times before I Heard a Very Young Duke Say Henry !!!
Bill

Mark great post the Stagecoach magazine from England.


Claire Trevor was before her time. There are some good women actors today, but few striking as Trevor and other actresses from the 30's, 40's, and 50's.

This is the Film
"STAGECOACH"
:teeth_smile:
And Many Film People Think that it is The Best Western Film ever Made !
:wink_smile:
If You look at the Credits you will see that John Wayne Does Not Have Top Billing in the Film, but Claire Trevor Does !!
:omg2:
After Many Years of Making "B" Films , with the Help of John Ford, this Film would Start John Wayne on His Way to Being the Biggest Movie Star to Ever Hit The Big Screen !!!
(bud)
And just Where would John Ford make Most of The Film ?
"Monument Valley"
:beer:

Chilibill
:cowboy:

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In the second Clip is one of the Most Famous shots of John Wayne as the Stagecoach is coming and He fires a Shot and Yells "Hold It" and Spins His Rifle and then they Zoom in on His Face and this is the Begining of John Wayne The Super Star !
:teeth_smile:
This is the First time We see Duke in the Film, and we are over 15 Min. into the Film !!
:wink_smile:
Chilibill
:cowboy:

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Here is the next Clip of Stagecoach !
:wink_smile:
Chilibill
:cowboy:

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The next clip is number three, have fun !
:teeth_smile:
Chilibill

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Now in this Clip They have a New Little One to Worry About !
:ohmy:
Chilibill
:cowboy:

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More of
"Stagecoach"
Chilibill
:cowboy:

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Clip 6 starts to get Hotter as the Apaches Start Closing in !!!
:tongue1:
Chilibill
:cowboy:


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Then Here Comes The Apaches !!!
Chilibill
:cowboy:

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Here are the last Two Video Clips of
"Stagecoach"
:wink_smile:
I always like a Ending like this Film when Duke gets the Bad Guy in The End, and then Rides off with The Girl !!!
:teeth_smile:
Chilibill

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lindaj48

Hi, I'm from Italy, few days ago I've seen "Stagecoach" in english and with a different soundtrack from that I use to listen.
Somebody knows if there are two different music soundtracks of this movie?
Don't know why but also the German TV Version has a different opening theme to the original. Found a Youtube link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27EaKVpytRA
That's why I only like to watch the Original! :wink:

John Wayne ruled in Stagecoach!

I watched Stagecoach again. I really wonder how much the relationship between the marshall Curly and Ringo is a reflection of John Wayne's and John Ford's relationship. Curly always seems pretty rough on Ringo even to the way at the end Curly makes Ringo go right to the wire about keeping his word before he sends him on his way.

Duke should have recieved an Oscar for this movie.

Duke should have recieved an Oscar for this movie.

Amen to that!

Kcat

I watched Stagecoach again. I really wonder how much the relationship between the marshall Curly and Ringo is a reflection of John Wayne's and John Ford's relationship. Curly always seems pretty rough on Ringo even to the way at the end Curly makes Ringo go right to the wire about keeping his word before he sends him on his way.

This is an interesting insight Tinker. It makes sense, doesn't it?!

Kcat

Yes, it does make sense.

John Ford wanted to have Ringo and Curly at Each Other until the End of The Film and Ringo is The Hero and Then Have Ringo and Claire Ride off to Mexico to Start a New Life for Both of Them !
:hyper:
Chilibill
:cowboy:

John Ford wanted to have Ringo and Curly at Each Other until the End of The Film and Ringo is The Hero and Then Have Ringo and Claire Ride off to Mexico to Start a New Life for Both of Them !
:hyper:
Chilibill
:cowboy:



Thanks for your insight, Chilibill. You would know!!! You are very valuable to us!

Bless you,

Kcat

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Fvn1WP2JMA

Hello ,this is Colorized version Stagecoach.
Great job.

regards,
Taka

Hello all, I was not sure if anyone mentioned this but Criterion just released there version of Stagecoach this week. It has a much improved picture and many extras not seen before, a 1 hour interview with Ford himself, plus many other things. And for you Blu-Ray HD people they also released the Blu-Ray HD version as well. I have the Criterion collection of The Seven Samurai directed by Akira Kurosawa and the do a excellent job with these older films and have many extras that are very interesting. I will be adding this to my collection as soon as I can.

Here is a link to the Blu-Ray on Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00393SFWU/thedigitalbit-20 and here is the Deep Discount DVD link: http://www.deepdiscount.com/index.cfm/fuseaction/product.detail/categoryID/F8230027-AAD3-4E06-9650-9E43E9EA6E55/productID/47205C8F-37E3-4624-BC2C-7B332F52AD6E/

If you just want the regular non Blu-Ray Criterion DVD do a search on either website.

Looks interesting. Might be worth buying as an extra. Has colorised Red River ever been issued?

I have just watched the 1966 Bing Crosby remake of this, for the first time. Not too bad, but Alex Cord as Ringo was pitiful. He was trying to talk like Duke and ruined it. Made me cringe every time he spoke.

Bob

I wouldn't be interested in a colorized version of ANY John Ford B/W movie. That would be like transferring the Mona Lisa to Black Velvet...sure, it might be an interesting "experiment," but why on EARTH would you do it???

The colourised one lacks clarity in places and some colours do not look right.

Bob

The colourised one lacks clarity in places and some colours do not look right.

Bob

That's the case for most colorized films, the colors almost never look right. However I do enjoy the work of Legend Films, they do good work from what I have seen.

Peter Blogdanoviches How He, Himself, Saved Stagecoach Because John Wayne Craved A Tax Deduction



In mid-1968, I was out at John Wayne’s home in Newport Beach, California, preparing a filmed interview with Wayne for a documentary which the American Film Institute had asked me to make on John Ford. As the Duke was walking me back to my car, he took a shortcut, leading me through the sizeable garage. Entering, I was greeted by a virtual sea of 35mm motion picture canisters—-large, octagonal specially-built metal cases to hold the heavy 2000-foot reels of film—-two or three reels per canister; this is how movies have always been shipped and stored. Suddenly, here before me, were 35mm prints of an awful lot of John Wayne movies: mostly brand-new-looking cases, boldly marked “RED RIVER,” “THE QUIET MAN,” “SANDS OF IWO JIMA,” “RIO BRAVO,” “SHE WORE A YELLOW RIBBON,” etc.

For a movie buff, it was a heady moment. I said something like, “Jesus Christ, Duke, do you have 35mm prints of all your pictures!?” He said, “No, but just about. It’s been part of my regular deal for a long time—the studio’s gotta give me a print off the original negative.” A light went on in my head. I looked around and saw quite near me a canister marked “STAGECOACH.” Knowing the original negative of that classic film—-the one which turned Wayne into a major star—-had been lost or destroyed, I got excited: “Is that print of Stagecoach from the original negative?” Wayne said, “I believe it is—don’t even think it’s ever been run.”

Well, this was golden news for film lovers because, as I told Wayne, his print—-which did turn out to be a mint copy—-could be used to create a new negative, producing a better result than anything in existence. I knew that if he would actually contribute his Stagecoach print to a non-profit institution like the AFI, he would get a very good tax write-off. After a new negative had been made, a new copy could then be sent to him. Duke was enthusiastic, especially about the tax break. Indeed, what I outlined in the garage did happen, and just that accidentally is how Stagecoach got saved.

Of course, Stagecoach (available on a new Criterion DVD, with a video introduction I did), was the first time Ford or anyone ever shot in the extraordinarily mythic landscape of Monument Valley. It was also the first time in the sound era that a Western was considered in a serious, adult light, discussed as a work of art. The New York Film Critics voted Ford best director of the year for Stagecoach and Oscars were won by Thomas Mitchell for his superb supporting performance as the alcoholic doctor, and by the rousing folk-song score. It was as well no doubt the first Western inspired by a Guy de Maupassant story (“Boule-de-suif”: “Ball of Fat”), and the one film Orson Welles ran forty times (each screening with different craftsmen) while he was preparing Citizen Kane. In fact, Welles used Stagecoach as a kind of handbook in the production of a well-made popular yet poetic drama. Although it has been officially redone twice, stolen from and imitated innumerable times, Stagecoach still holds up on its own today: the first talking western from John Ford, our foremost poet of filmed Americana. Ford also had released that same year both the stirring Drums Along the Mohawk and the moving Young Mr. Lincoln, each starring Henry Fonda. Who says the old studio system was so bad?

In the documentary we shot (Directed by John Ford, 1971; totally revised, expanded and recut, 2006), I naturally asked Wayne about the making of Stagecoach and he made an especially revealing remark, almost in passing. The anecdote he was telling had to do with Ford’s humiliating him in front of the crew (not a rare occurrence) but this began with the director letting the actor see rushes of Stagecoach for the first time and then quizzing him about what he thought of various players’ work, the photography, direction, all of which Wayne was overwhelmed by. When Ford asked him what he thought of his own performance, Wayne just shrugged and said (repeating it to me), “Oh, well, I’m just playing you—-you know what that is…”

When a movie actor says something of that kind, he means that in the picture he is essentially doing precisely, and only, what the director has asked for, told or shown him. Indeed, Wayne’s performance in Stagecoach is very carefully realized and Ford keeps the actor’s laconic character in the forefront throughout by repeatedly cutting to his silent reactions. Right from Wayne’s entrance, Ford is consciously creating a star player. All the other nine leads in the exceptional ensemble cast (among them, Claire Trevor and John Carradine) receive solid but visually casual introductions into the story. Not Wayne’s Ringo Kid. His arrival is announced by a shot uncharacteristic of Ford: The camera moves from a full figure of Wayne standing at the side of a road, dollying quickly into a large close-up, the biggest in the film thus far.

The producer (the estimable Walter Wanger) and the studio (United Artists) had wanted Ford to cast Gary Cooper in the part, or somebody with a bigger name than Wayne, who was known only in bread-and-butter B-westerns. Ford refused anyone but Wayne and his first shot of the actor clearly announces to the executives: “You want Cooper? You got Wayne—-get used to it!” With this film as the beginning (and a great many other Ford-Wayne collaborations to follow), John Wayne would go on to become the most popular and long-lived male star in picture history. Over thirty years after his death, he is still within the top five in the public’s affection.

http://blogs.indiewire.com/peterbogdanovich/archives/stagecoach/

Thanks for posting May, a great read,
and what a fascinating story.

If it wasnt for the Duke's print Stagecoach could have been lost or have been at best a very poor standard print. Everytime, you run Stagecoach just think this came from the print in John Wayne's garage.

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Wow, wow, wow, and wow! Thank you for this marvelous batch of treasures of The Duke in Stagecoach!!!

If I had a top 10 list of John Wayne Movies....Stagecoach usually (should say always) in the top 3 all the time.
I have it in 4 different venues.
First I bought it way before Video came out as a SUPER 8 Full length on 5 reels way back in the mid 70s,,,cost me about 180.00 (thats right 180.00) They also sold the Searchers but that was $360.00 because it was in color.

I then got in on Video Disc (selectvision ,,the hard cover slide in ones), then VHS
and now DVD.... I never get bored with that movie.....Every so often I put the big screen up and show it. This year I plan on showing it outside ,,something different...


1. Select Video Disc
2.

you have that right it is one of his best,
i have a picture that was sent to as ringo kid it is black and white
but still a great picture of him
me when i join the john life time
fan member
they other night which i wish they would put his on in the early evening but brannigan and i stayed awake to watch it.
and one day i was at k-mart and seen north to alsaka on dvd but thought i already had it
so i did not get it and when i got home and checked is seen i did not have it. went back to get it as there where no more of them.

Thanks again for the great poster and pictures shots. You made my morning. Big Jim

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These pix are awesome! Thank you!:jump:

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Is there a secret as to where you find all these great pictures? I have several outlets through my store for a small assortment but they are limited. I also hunt for them through other dealers, gun and western shows but have never found or even seen some of the ones you post. What is your secret? Thank you for sharing them with us. Big Jim

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Found Stagecoach for $5- 00 Au yesterday,
so of course had to bye it,,
so of course had to watch it,
so of course really hope they never try and do a remake of it.


I remember thinking while i was watching it, Ford really knows how to make a movie, and also loved how he keeps the Piano player going in the bar during all the drama towards the end.



Recorded Randolph Scott in Coroner Creek last week, last 10 mins missing
grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

Found Stagecoach for $5- 00 Au yesterday,
so of course had to bye it,,
so of course had to watch it,
so of course really hope they never try and do a remake of it.






Jessie, I've got news for you,
they already HAVE!
and very bad at that!

See:-
Stagecoach (1966) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0061024/)

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OH Keith, they just couldnt resist it hey, yuk.............. !!
Ford would rooooooooooooolll in his grave lolololo

And no, i will never be tempted to watch it.

Last night i watched some really great interviews of early " Parkinson" ( UK ) interviews with John Wayne & Jimmy Stewart, also saw a Dean Martin interview with J wayne, both on Q/Horses on DM's talk show, must have been early 70's i guess.

Heaps of J W on you -tube
OMG- I saw a Jimmy Stewart interview as well in ...... Carson USA, all off youtube i think they were.

SORRY GUYS, TWICE. 1986, Willie Nelson, Kris Kristofferson and Johnnie Cash. When you see a remake, you have to considder it a complement to the actors and the director. True, there is no comparison but the last two were entertaining. Also I think I saw the 1966 with Ann Margaret first. In those days we didn't have a way to see older movies other than TV. Now we own them.

i like john wayne as ringo kid, that is good but it was diferent of curse i like johnny csh and all of them. and the one made before john wayne made it.
but there have been some others done with different one is them like th almo and i will not watch that one again. and angle and the badman remake, i just wish they would stop remking the john wyne movies no one can top john wayne as a start.
and one i thought he should of gotten a award for was greem barates, i my have spilled that wrong sorry if i did not a good at spilling.
lindaj48

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