Chisum (director: Andrew V. McLaglen; screenwriter: Andrew J. Fenady/from the sory by Andrew J. Fenady "Chisum and the Lincoln County Cattle War"; cinematographer: William H. Clothier; editor: Robert Simpson; music: Dominic Frontiere; cast: John Wayne (John Simpson Chisum), Forrest Tucker (Murphy), Geoffrey Deuel (Billy the Kid), Patric Knowles (Henry Tunstall), Pamela McMyler (Sally Chisum), Ben Johnson (Pepper), Glenn Corbett (Pat Garrett), Christopher George (Dan Nodeon), Andrew Prine (Alex McSween), Lynda Day (Sue McSween), Bruce Cabot (Sheriff Brady), Robert Donner (Morton, deputy sheriff), Ray Teal (Justice J.B. Wilson), Gregg Palmer (Karl Riker), Alan Baxter (Gov. Axtell), Richard Jaeckel (Jess Evans); Runtime: 110; MPAA Rating: G; producer: Andrew J. Fenady; Warner Brothers; 1970)

Reviews:


A stylish big-budget rousing range war Western that is a gimmicky mix of myth and hokum, directed with flair by Andrew V. McLaglen; it plays cutesy with the Billy the Kid (Geoffrey Deuel) and Pat Garrett (Glenn Corbett) movie lore legend and touches on the actual history of the Lincoln County Cattle War but in a Hollywoodish way, something that almost fouls up the fictionalized John Simpson Chisum (John Wayne) part. He's the staunch reformed Indian fighter and gunslinger who is now an Indian lover and honest cattle baron on the side of the little guy and frontier justice (overlooking the fact he was a monopolist before the arrival of his villainous rival). Chisum is the good-guy capitalist fighting the evil capitalist Murphy (Forrest Tucker), a newcomer to the 1878 New Mexico Territory town of Lincoln who is buying out all the local businesses through legal and semi-legal means while expanding his ranch and bribing the law as far away as in the capital, where the unprincipled appointed frontier governor sits, and locally through his stooge Sheriff Brady.*

It's produced and scripted by Andrew J. Fenady, from his story "Chisum and the Lincoln County Cattle War."

Reviewed by Dennis Schwartz (http://http://www.sover.net/~ozus/chisum.htm)

I personally like this take on the Lincoln Co. Cattle Wars, but at times I feel it drags along. I'm un-sure of the whole Billy the Kid with a Bible thing but maybe someone can address that part of the story. Chisum is a classic Duke westerns set on a big canvas, with just about all the Duke regulars making appearances. ;)

Thanks my quick take on it.

:cowboy:

I have always enjoyed Chisum. I never cared for the actor who played Billy the Kid. But it was classic Duke!!

I always like this movie it was well paced western with lots of action and pretty of familar faces from other Wayne movies like Ben Johnston Richard Jaeckel , John Agar (blink and you miss him) Bruce Cabot and Forrest Tucker. Also Hank Worden (Old Mose from The Searchers) as the stagecoach manager.

Billy the Kid's character was played by Geoff Duel who was the brother of Pete Duel who starred in the 1970s western series Alias Smith & Jones.

I justed watched Chisum today and it beats the heck out of Young Guns.... Only thing I had a hard time with is being able to tell it's his double way to often in the last fight scene...

Originally posted by erthomp143@Jan 11 2006, 05:37 PM
I justed watched Chisum today and it beats the heck out of Young Guns.... Only thing I had a hard time with is being able to tell it's his double way to often in the last fight scene...

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I agree, they could have done a much better job of covering that up :blink:
It was quite noticeable.

Hi,
In addition to Kevins excellent review,
I'd like to add some more information, regarding
this very fine film.
It is one that I have always, enjoyed,
even right down to the title song!
Rating 9/10

CHISUM

DIRECTED BY ANDREW McLAGLEN
PRODUCED BY ANDREW J. FENADY
WARNER BROS

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Information from IMDb

Full Cast
John Wayne .... John Simpson Chisum
Forrest Tucker .... Lawrence Murphy
Christopher George .... Dan Nodeen
Ben Johnson .... James Pepper
Glenn Corbett .... Pat Garrett
Andrew Prine .... Alex McSween
Bruce Cabot .... Sheriff Brady
Patric Knowles .... Henry Tunstall
Richard Jaeckel .... Jess Evans
Lynda Day George .... Sue McSween (as Lynda Day)
Geoffrey Deuel .... Billy 'The Kid' Bonney
Pamela McMyler .... Sallie Chisum
John Agar .... Amos Patton
Lloyd Battista .... Neemo
Robert Donner .... Morton (deputy sheriff)
Ray Teal .... Justice J.B. Wilson
Edward Faulkner .... James J. Dolan
Ron Soble .... Charley Bowdre
John Mitchum .... Baker (deputy sheriff)
Glenn Langan .... Colonel Dudley
Alan Baxter .... Gov. Sam Axtell
Alberto Morin .... Juan Delgado
William Bryant .... Jeff
Pedro Armendáriz Jr. .... Ben (as Pedro Armendariz Jr.)
Christopher Mitchum .... Tom O'Folliard
John Pickard .... Aggressive sergeant
Abraham Sofaer .... Chief White Buffalo
Gregg Palmer .... Karl Riker
Hank Worden .... Stationmaster
Pedro Gonzales-Gonzales .... Mexican rancher (as Pedro Gonzales Gonzales)
Jim Burk
Eddy Donno
Bob Morgan
William Conrad .... Narrator - Opening Credits (voice) (uncredited)
José Ángel Espinosa 'Ferrusquilla' .... (uncredited)
Cliff Lyons .... (uncredited)
Josh McLaglen .... (uncredited)
Mary McLaglen .... (uncredited)
Chuck Roberson .... Trail herder (uncredited)
Trinidad Villa .... Blacksmith (uncredited)
Ralph Volkie .... Blacksmith (uncredited)

Produced
Andrew J. Fenady .... producer
Michael Wayne .... executive producer (as Michael A. Wayne)

Original Music
Dominic Frontiere (also songs "Turn Me Around" and "Ballad of John Chisum")

Cinematography
William H. Clothier (director of photography)

Stunts
Dick Bullock .... stunts (uncredited)
Jim Burk .... stunts (uncredited)
Joe Canutt .... stunts (uncredited)
Tap Canutt .... stunts (uncredited)
Eddy Donno .... stunts (uncredited)
Chuck Hayward .... stunts (uncredited)
Cliff Lyons .... stunt coordinator (uncredited)
Cliff Lyons .... stunts (uncredited)
Gary McLarty .... stunts (uncredited)
Bob Morgan .... stunts (uncredited)
Hal Needham .... stunt coordinator (uncredited)
Bob Orrison .... stunts (uncredited)
Chuck Roberson .... stunts (uncredited)
Henry Wills .... stunts (uncredited)

Trivia
While in production on this film in Mexico, John Wayne won the Golden Globe and found out he was nominated for the Oscar for True Grit (1969).

Although they met some time earlier Christopher George and Lynda Day George fell in love and later married after working on this project.

Both Ralph Volkie and Trinidad Villa are credited as the blacksmith in various reference works.

The Zoom in and zoom out sequences of Chisum sitting on his horse on the hillside at the beginning and end of the movie are the same footage. The original shot was the zoom out used at the end. That was reversed to produce the zoom in used at the beginning.

When Chisum and Sally are talking on the porch, Chisum opens up a pocket watch to see what time it is and Sally remarks that the picture of a man and a woman inside the watch's cover are her parents (Chisum's brother and sister-in-law). The man in the photograph is actually producer Andrew J. Fenady.

The Chisum Ranch house in this film is the exact house used in Big Jake (1971), a John Wayne western made a year later. Note the scenery around the ranch.

John Wayne was very disappointed that his stunt double was so obvious in the final fight with Forrest Tucker.

Although clearly labeled as the older man, at 57 Patric Knowles was actually five years younger than John Wayne.

Finnish censorship certificate # 78758 delivered on 5-8-1970.

Final film of Abraham Sofaer.

Ray Teal's final movie.

John Wayne's son, Patrick Wayne played Pat Garrett in Young Guns (1988), another movie about the Lincoln County Wars of 1878.

Jim Burk doubled for Forrest Tucker in part of the final fight scene.

Film debut of Geoffrey Deuel.

Goofs
* Crew or equipment visible: During the ambush of the supply train, the shadow of a camera and crew is visible in the dust at the bottom of the frame.

* Revealing mistakes: John Wayne's stunt double is very obvious in fight scene between Chisum and Murphy.

* Crew or equipment visible: When Chisum and Murphy go over the porch together at the end of the film, the overhead shot of their fall reveals a poorly-concealed mat stretched over the dirt road below.

* Revealing mistakes: In the gunfight at the store/bank, when the scene changes from nighttime to daylight two curtains on the outside of the store change lengths.

* Continuity: When Billy shoots Jess Evans, he falls on his stomach. In the next shot, he is lying on his back.

* Continuity: Tunstall and Billy Bonney are standing by their horses and talking to Jess Evans, who has just ridden in to town. In three consecutive shots of the scene, Tunstall alternately has his pipe in his mouth, after which it is gone, and then re-appears.

* Continuity: Pepper's facial hair changes and is sometimes gone throughout the film.

* Crew or equipment visible: When John Wayne prepares to punch Forrest Tucker, his fist hits the camera behind his head.

* Errors made by characters (possibly deliberate errors by the filmmakers): In the "Big Casino, Little Casino" scene Pat Garrett is playing draw poker. If he loses the hand he will accept Chisum's job offer. He tells Chisum the next card will make up his mind. He draws one card, the 10 of diamonds, known as "Big Casino". When the camera shows his hand he was drawing to 5, 8, J, Q of spades, attempting to complete a flush. The 10 of diamonds gave him a four flush or losing hand. However, slow motion shows him throwing away the six of spades. It appears he broke up a "pat" hand to draw.

* Factual errors: Henry Tunstall was only 25 when he was murdered in 1878.

* Factual errors: Lawrence Murphy was diagnosed with bowel cancer in March, 1877. He sold his interest in the company to his partners, Dolan and Riley. The company was renamed Jas. J. Dolan & Co. Murphy was in Santa Fe during most of the Lincoln County War. He died of the cancer on Oct. 20, 1878.

* Anachronisms: (At 16:24) When the camera shot changes to the group on the slope in front of the stream, on the opposite side of the stream a automobile can be seen briefly moving along a road up on the opposite slope.

Memorable Quotes (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0065547/quotes)

Filming Locations
Durango, Mexico
Eaves Movie Ranch - 105 Rancho Alegre Road, Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA

OK Keith, question for you. IN the scene at the river where Chisum confronts the rustlers, just before Bonney rides up, who's the rustler Chisum is talking to about taking his herd back. I've seen the guy in a few other films but, never knew who he was. I liked his character in this movie, humorous but, deadly.

Hi WaynamoJim
Without quickly watching the film,
I believe this is Pedro Armendáriz Jr. .... Ben.
son of one of Duke's old co-stars PA Snr.he of 3 GODFATHERS,
and THE CONQUEROR.
However, I'd like to take another look,

I never really seen Jr. when he was younger but, I do remember him from Tombstone as the priest at the beginning who's gunned down by Ringo. As for Pedro Sr., he was also in Fort Apache and even did a James Bond film, From Russia With Love as a Turkish police official who sort of partners up with Bond during the first half of the film.

Memorable Quotes

Sallie Chisum: I think in some ways, the two of them are a lot alike.
Pat Garrett: Who?
Sallie Chisum: Uncle John, Billy Bonney. Don't you think they are? Don't you?
Pat Garrett: Not in the important things.
Sallie Chisum: Like what?
Pat Garrett: Well, Mr. Chisum's changed with the times. He doesn't like to let on, but he cares... about the people here and in town, about the Indians and the territory. Well, he's independent, and he likes to do things his own way, but he cares.
Sallie Chisum: And Billy doesn't?
Pat Garrett: I guess he can't help it. But you heard him, all he cares about is gettin' those men.
Sallie Chisum: In a way, doesn't it amount to the same thing?
Pat Garrett: No. Billy wants revenge. Mr. Chisum wants justice. There's a big difference.

Lawrence Murphy: Sheriff Brady, Jess Evans, this is Alex McSween. Uh, he's part of the family.
Jess Evans: Howdy.
Sheriff Brady: What does he do?
Lawrence Murphy: Well, he used to be a storekeeper and now he's my lawyer.
Jess Evans: I prefer storekeepers!
Alex McSween: Then don't ever get arrested.
Jess Evans: I don't intend to.

Jess Evans: Why get in a frazzle over Chisum? You turn me loose on him... there'll be a sudden funeral right here in Lincoln.
Lawrence Murphy: Uh-huh. Yours.
Jess Evans: How's that?
Lawrence Murphy: Do you play chess?
Jess Evans: Chess? What the hell has that got to do with Chisum?
Lawrence Murphy: Everything. You just leave him alone. I'll take care of Mr. Chisum.
Sheriff Brady: That ain't gonna be easy.
Lawrence Murphy: You're right. But see, there's a fundamental difference between Mr. Chisum and me.
Sheriff Brady: Yeah, what's that?
Lawrence Murphy: Mr. Chisum is a man who respects the law.
[Chuckles]
Lawrence Murphy: Around here, I'm the man who owns it.

Lawrence Murphy: And you good people witnessed the cowardly and cold-blooded murder of our beloved Sheriff Brady by Billy "the Kid" Bonney right over there. Governor Axtell has appointed a new sheriff, Dan Nodeen. He's offered a $200 award for the kid, and I'm adding a further reward of $1,000, dead or alive.
[Crowd murmurs "$1200"]
Lawrence Murphy: Sheriff here has formed his posse. Oh... Have you got anything you want to add to that, Sheriff?
Dan Nodeen: Just this. I'm going to bring Bonney in. Now you people can either help me, or stay the hell out of my way!

Justice J.B. Wilson: Mr. Murphy. Just how much of Lincoln County are you after?
Lawrence Murphy: Well, Mr. Chisum came out here several years ago, put his name on everything he could. I've only been here a little while. Just getting started. Do you have anything to say to that, Mr. Chisum?
John Simpson Chisum: Well I don't favor talking to vermin, but I'll talk to you just this once. You're not just getting started. The line's been drawn. What Billy did balanced the books so far. But if one of your men cross my land or even touch one of my cows, or do anything to that store, I'm not going to the sheriff, the governor, or the president of the United States. I'm coming to see you.
Lawrence Murphy: Hmph. Mr. Chisum, that sounds like a threat.
John Simpson Chisum: [John Chisum belts Murphy, knocking him down with his right fist] Wrong word. FACT!

Henry Tunstall: John, I want to thank you for taking care of William.
John Simpson Chisum: [chuckles] No, not me, Sally.
Henry Tunstall: She's a wonderful girl, she's a worthwhile lamb.
John Simpson Chisum: Oh yeah, Henry, according to you, everybody's worthwhile.
Henry Tunstall: God's children, John. Oh, William reminds me of someone.
John Simpson Chisum: A black sheep in the family, no doubt.
Henry Tunstall: No, a young chap I never even talked to. Years ago in England this man very much like William killed a man in some senseless brawl. And I watched that young man walk to the gallows. And I saw him hang. Ghastly sight. There was nothing I could do to help that young lad.

John Simpson Chisum: I'm going down there, the rest of you cover me with your long guns.
[James Pepper follows Chisum]
John Simpson Chisum: I said cover me!
James Pepper: I know what you said, Mr. Chisum! But I ain't the rest of them!

Billy the Kid: It's nice to have you with us Big Casino!
Pat Garrett: Thanks, Little Casino.

Pat Garrett: Well, I'm upwind and I smell it on you.
Billy the Kid: Buffalo?
Pat Garrett: Death.
Billy the Kid: I see what you mean. Can it ever go away? That smell I mean.
Pat Garrett: Sure it can, with time, good company and patience.

Billy the Kid: I made you a promise, Mr. Tunstall. Now I'm making myself a promise. It says in the Bible, "The candle of the wicked shall be put out."

Jess Evans: That man there, he's meaner than a gut shot grizzly.

James Pepper: You know, there's an old saying, Miss Sally. There's no law west of Dodge and no God west of the Pecos. Right, Mr. Chisum?
John Simpson Chisum: Wrong, Mr. Pepper. Because no matter where people go, sooner or later there's the law. And sooner or later they find God's already been there.

Morton: You're going to shoot us, ain't you Chisum?
John Simpson Chisum: I thought about it. Then I thought about something Henry Tunstall once said. He watched a man walk to the gallows... saw him hang. He said it was ghastly. Well, I've seen men hang, and that's the word - ghastly. You two are going to hang.

Neemo: So if you want these horses, I sell them to you. Did you bring some gold with you?
John Simpson Chisum: No.
Neemo: Silver?
John Simpson Chisum: Just lead!

Sheriff Brady: He's deader than a can of corned beef. You just had to kill him, huh?
Dan Nodeen: A whole lot less trouble that way.

John Simpson Chisum: We may have to be neighbors, but I don't have to be neighborly.

James Pepper: What are you going to do?
John Simpson Chisum: What I had done twenty-five years ago. Pat, get the men out of South Camp. Trace, you round up everybody that can ride a horse or pull a trigger. Let's break out some Winchesters!

James Pepper: Would you like to hear my opinion, Mr. John Simpson Chisum?
John Simpson Chisum: Nope.
James Pepper: Well, my opinion is all this speechifying, storekeeping, prayer-meeting don't amount to spit in the river. There's only one thing that's going to make this territory know who's bull of the woods... and sometime or sooner it's going to happen.
John Simpson Chisum: Do I?
James Pepper: You do. It's just going to be you and Murphy, head-to-head and horn-to-horn... and one hell of a fight. But one of you has got to lose, so the other one walks away with the herd and the whole shebang. Now, that's my opinion.

INFORMATION IMDb

Definitely another great film of the Duke's.

Deep Discount DVD (http://search.deepdiscountdvd.com/search?p=Q&ts=custom&w=chisum&search.x=0&search.y=0) has the movie, and several different posters.

Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00008WJBE/qid=1139196759/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/103-2966141-4147854?s=dvd&v=glance&n=130) offers the movie in new and used. The price for shipping one item used on Amazon is $3.49 (standard shipping). Sometimes the cost of the used item, plus shipping, is so close to new you might as well have a new one.

Chester :newyear:

Hi all,
I bought 2 zone DVD of Chisum in Finland and the quality is exellent. I watch movie with new eyes. Also there is documentary, trailer and audiocommentc by Andrew McLaglen.
Regards,
Senta

Does anyone know the names of the supporting actors who played the ranch herders named "Charlie"(big teeth) and "Tommy"(blonde hair)? They were Billy's side kicks when he broke into the General Store and "Charlie" was the one who brought out the extra ammo from the storage room and said "There's enough ammunition in there to fight a war!". The cast listings that I've seen don't credit these two actors. Thanks.

Originally posted by Logolight@Sep 9 2006, 08:25 AM
Does anyone know the names of the supporting actors who played the ranch herders named "Charlie"(big teeth) and "Tommy"(blonde hair)?* They were Billy's side kicks when he broke into the General Store and "Charlie" was the one who brought out the extra ammo from the storage room and said "There's enough ammunition in there to fight a war!".* The cast listings that I've seen don't credit these two actors.* Thanks.

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Hi,
I think Tommy is Christopher Mitchum (Mitchum's son). I don't remember Charlie, but I have a feeling that he was somewhere else. Arthur knew it all exactly.
Regards,
Senta :rolleyes:

You can find the answer to almost any question concerning movies at IMDB's (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0065547/fullcredits) website.

Originally posted by Stumpy@Sep 9 2006, 06:28 AM
You can find the answer to almost any question concerning movies at IMDB's (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0065547/fullcredits) website.

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This (http://www.allmovie.com/) is another excellent site for movie questions.

Hi
Looking at IMDB I would suggest that the second man was Ron Soble.

Regards

Arthur

Hi all,
the finest information on both must be in our site in movie reviews. Search topics devoted to Chris Mitchum and Ron Soble. Eathanedwards (Keith) gathered some information on both.
Good luck,
Senta :rolleyes:

http://www.dukewayne.com/showthread.php?t=3056
This is the link to pals of the Saddle, you may go right there, a big information about both. How can we forget :unsure:

Chisum is a great mix of myth and reality. After watching the movie, I did just a little research about the Lincoln County war and the real life Chisum and found a few things out. Namely that Pat Garrett and Billy The Kid never met like in the movie. Garrett was brought on to be Sherriff with the specific task of getting rid of Billy after he had become a menace to everyone.

As far as the movie goes, I don't really care whether the facts are hard and fast because that gets in the way of a good story. Here's a great movie about good and bad and the lines are certainly blurred when it comes to Billy (obviously) and Chisum when he decides to take vengence himself once his lawyer is killed.

A great western, maybe his best of the seventies (if you over look the sentimentality of The Shootist)

Duke's Movie Locations

Most of the movie was filmed,
around
J.W. EAVES MOVIE RANCH
969

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971

972

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Located in Santa Fe, New Mexico, the J.W. Eaves Movie Ranch was opened in the early 1960's with their first production being the CBS television series Empire in 1962. Over 250 other productions have filmed here over the years including The Cheyenne Social Club, Chisum, Easy Rider and Young Guns II.

Rare Photo

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It's interesting to me when there is more than one poster for a movie. I don't know all the history behind them, but I enjoy them.

Chester :newyear:

Once again thanks for posting, and once
again the standard of artwork, is very impressive!

Keith,

Thank you. This is one that Les Adams, from Abilene, Texas shared with us.

Chester :newyear:

Hi Jim

Just to confuse the issue more here's another one:


Regards

Arthur

Hey all of you John Wayne Fans!
I have been away for a while, and just wanted to say hi!
Speaking of Chisum, I love the picture of John Wayne, on his horse on the hill, looking into the distance. This is how I always will remember the Great John Wayne! Does anybody know if there is a poster or picture out there of him in that manor?
I have a room in my house dedicated to the Duke and have framed many pictures, this is my favorite room in my house, and shall we say peacful!!!
Good to be back!
Stacy :hyper:

This was one of my least favorite John Wayne films, I say was because as I watch his films again I find that many of them that I remembered as being boring I rediscover them so to speak.

Is it still one of your least favourites or have you reassessed film?

Finnish, from 1970´s

"John Wayne is Chisum, the King of Pecos, who started the big cattle drives on the prairies"


http://atomiaika.fi/catalog/images/chisum.jpg

Is it still one of your least favourites or have you reassessed film?

I apologize for the long delay in replying but no I have not had the time to reassess this film.

Just got Chisum on DVD, having owned it for years on video

Great movie, hopefully get to watch it again today

It apparently is based on the Lincoln County Wars, of which I have ordered the book from Amazon.com

Still awaiting delivery

source: Wikipedia

John Simpson Chisum (15 August (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/August_15) 1824 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1824) – 20 December (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/December_20) 1884 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1884)) was a wealthy cattle baron in the American West in the mid-to-late 1880s. Born in Hardeman County, Tennessee (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hardeman_County%2C_Tennessee), Chisum's family moved to Texas (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas) in 1837 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1837), with Chisum finding work as a building contractor. He also served as county clerk in Lamar County (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lamar_County%2C_Texas). John Chisum got involved in the cattle business in 1854 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1854) and became one of the first to send his herds to New Mexico (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Mexico). He obtained land along the Pecos River (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pecos_River) by right of occupancy and eventually became the owner of a large ranch in the Bosque Grande, about forty miles south of Fort Sumner (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fort_Sumner), with over 100,000 head of cattle. In 1866-67, Chisum formed a partnership with cattlemen Charles Goodnight (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Goodnight) and Oliver Loving (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oliver_Loving) to assemble and drive herds of cattle for sale to the Army in Fort Sumner and Santa Fe, New Mexico (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santa_Fe%2C_New_Mexico).
When Chisum died in Eureka Springs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eureka_Springs) on 20 December (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/December_20) 1884 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1884), he was unmarried and left his estate worth $500,000 to his brothers Pitzer and James. While living in Bolivar (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bolivar_Peninsula), Texas (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas), he lived with a young slave girl named Jensie and had two daughters with her. The relationship is described in the book, "Three Ranches West." John had an extended family living with him at the South Springs ranch in Roswell, and this family, along with hired help, often numbered two dozen at the main ranch headquarters. Chisum's niece Sallie Chisum, the daughter of his brother James, became a beloved figure in the area where she lived until 1934. Both she and her uncle John are honored by statues to their memory at Roswell and Artesia.

Lincoln County War

Chisum was a business associate of Alexander McSween, a principal figure in the Lincoln County War (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lincoln_County_War). With money, advice, and influence behind the scenes, he played a role in the dispute between the opposing factions of cattle farmers and business owners. When Lewis Wallace (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lewis_Wallace) took office as Governor of New Mexico on 1 October (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/October_1) 1878 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1878), he proclaimed an amnesty for all those involved in the bitter feud. However, after Billy the Kid (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billy_the_Kid) surrendered to the authorities, he was told he would be charged with the killing of Sheriff William J. Brady (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_J._Brady).
Billy the Kid escaped from custody and went to see Chisum. Billy believed he was owed $500, but Chisum refused to pay, claiming that he had given Billy horses, supplies, and protection over the years in lieu of payment. Billy the Kid responded by promising to steal enough cattle to make up this sum. Billy's gang also stole from other cattlemen and became a serious problem in Lincoln County. His gang included Dave Rudabaugh (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dave_Rudabaugh), Billy Wilson (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billy_Wilson_%28outlaw%29), Tom O'Folliard (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_O%27Folliard) and Charlie Bowdre (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Bowdre).
In 1880 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1880), Chisum was involved in getting Pat Garrett (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pat_Garrett) elected as sheriff (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheriff) of Lincoln County. Garrett immediately attempted to deal with the problems being caused by Billy the Kid. In December 1880, Garrett shot dead two of the Kid's gang, Tom O'Folliard and Charles Bowdre. Soon afterwards Billy the Kid, Dave Rudabaugh and Billy Wilson were captured by Garrett.

That was rather interesting, thanks for posting it.

Regarding Pat Garrett, was he ever in Billy the Kids gang?

:agent:

Thanks for posting John. Very Interesting.

Mike

Here is a little story about the Chisholm Trail, and the John Wayne Film "Red River." that many people think was One Of The Best Westerns Of All Time ! :teeth_smile: http://www.wyntoontrip.com/REDRIVER1.html

Chilibill
:cowboy:

Here is a little story about the Chisum Trail, and the John Wayne Film "Red River." that many people think was One Of The Best Westerns Of All Time ! :teeth_smile: http://www.wyntoontrip.com/REDRIVER1.html

Chilibill
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Only one thing wrong, Bill - it's actually "Chisholm Trail"

Stumpy, your sure a Pickey Old ---- But What The Hell would I know about Spelling, I am just an Old Aerospace Engineer, and an Old Run Down Cowboy !!!
But I Fix-It Just For You ! :wink_smile:



William Thomas Brooks The Third :wink_smile: I think I Spelled My Name Right ? :yeaahh:
:cowboy:

Stumpy, your sure a Pickey Old ---- But What The Hell would I know about Spelling, I am just an Old Aerospace Engineer, and an Old Run Down Cowboy !!!
But I Fix-It Just For You ! :wink_smile:

William Thomas Brooks The Third :wink_smile: I think I Spelled My Name Right ? :yeaahh:
:cowboy:


I'm sorry, Bill, I posted the corrected spelling before I read your link, which gave the correct spelling. It was just a reflex, since I live right on the old Chisholm Trail.

Thanks for the link Bill, I enjoyed reading that :wink_smile:

In answer to Robbie's question
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Early life

Patrick Floyd Garrett was born in Chambers County, Alabama (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chambers_County%2C_Alabama) (near present day Cusseta (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cusseta%2C_Alabama)). He grew up on a prosperous Louisiana (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louisiana) plantation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plantation) near Haynesville (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haynesville%2C_Louisiana) in northern Claiborne Parish (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claiborne_Parish), just below the Arkansas (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arkansas) state line. He left home in 1869 and found work as a cowboy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cowboy) in Dallas County, Texas (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dallas_County%2C_Texas).
In 1875, he left to hunt buffalo (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_bison). In 1878, Garrett shot and killed a fellow hunter who charged at Garrett with a hatchet over a disagreement over buffalo hides. Upon dying, the hunter brought Garrett to tears upon asking him to forgive him.
Garrett moved to New Mexico (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Mexico) and briefly found work as a cowpuncher (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cowpuncher) before quitting to open his own saloon. A tall man, he was referred to by locals as "Juan Largo" or "Long John." In 1879, Garrett married Juanita Gutierrez, who died within a year. In 1880, he married Gutierrez's sister, Apolonaria. The couple had nine children.
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Portrait of Pat Garrett from The Story of the Outlaws[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pat_Garrett#_note-1)





Lincoln County War

On November 7 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/November_7), 1880 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1880), the sheriff of Lincoln County, New Mexico (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lincoln_County%2C_New_Mexico), George Kimbell, resigned with two months left in his term. As Kimbell's successor, the county appointed Garrett, a member of the Republican Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Republican_Party) who ran as a Democrat (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Democratic_Party) and a gunman (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gunslinger) of some reputation who had promised to restore law and order. Garrett was charged with tracking down and arresting a friend from his saloon keeping days, Henry McCarty (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_McCarty), a jail escapee and Lincoln County War participant who often went by the aliases Henry Antrim and William Harrison Bonney, but is better known as "Billy the Kid". McCarty was an alleged murderer who had participated in the Lincoln County War (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lincoln_County_War). He was said to have killed twenty-one men, one for every year of his life, but the actual total was probably closer to nine. New Mexico (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Mexico) Governor Lew Wallace (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lew_Wallace) had personally put a $500 reward on McCarty's capture.
During a December 19 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/December_19) shootout, Garrett killed Tom O'Folliard (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_O%27Folliard), a member of McCarty's gang. A few nights later, the sheriff's posse killed Charlie Bowdre (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Bowdre), captured The Kid and his companions, and transported the captives to Mesilla, New Mexico (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mesilla%2C_New_Mexico), for trial. Though he was convicted, The Kid managed to escape from jail on April 18 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/April_18), 1881 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1881), after killing his guards J. W. Bell and Bob Olinger.
On July 14 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/July_14), 1881 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1881), Garrett visited Fort Sumner (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fort_Sumner) to question a friend of The Kid's about the whereabouts of the outlaw. He learned that The Kid was staying with a mutual friend, Pedro Maxwell (son of land baron Lucien Maxwell (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucien_Maxwell)). Around midnight, Garrett went to Maxwell's house. The Kid was asleep in another part of the house but woke up hungry in the middle of the night and entered the kitchen where Garrett was standing in the shadows. The Kid did not recognize the man standing in dark. "Quien es (Who is it)? Quien es?" The Kid asked repeatedly. Garrett replied by shooting at The Kid twice, the first shot hitting him in the heart, and the second one did not hit him. (Some historians have questioned Garrett's account of the shooting, alleging the incident happened differently. They claim that Garrett went into Paulita Maxwell's room and tied her up. The Kid walked into her room, and Garrett ambushed him with a single blast from his Sharps rifle (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sharps_Rifle).)
There has been much dispute over the details of the Kid's death that night. The way Garrett allegedly killed McCarty without warning eventually sullied the lawman's reputation. Garrett claimed that Billy the Kid had entered the room armed with a pistol, but no gun was found on his body. Other accounts claim he entered carrying a kitchen knife. There is no hard evidence to support this; however, if he did so it is likely he intended to cut some food for himself, since he had no idea anyone was waiting for him. Regardless of how he died, Billy was a wanted criminal, and so Sheriff Garrett chose not to give him a chance to surrender.
Still, at the time the shooting solidified Garrett's fame as a lawman and gunman, and led to numerous appointments to law enforcement (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_enforcement) positions, as well as requests that he pursue outlaws in other parts of New Mexico.

After the Lincoln County War

His law enforcement career never achieved any great success following the Lincoln County War, and he mostly used that single era in his life as his stepping-stone to higher positions. After finishing out his term as sheriff, Garrett became a rancher (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rancher) and released a book ghostwritten (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghostwriter) by his friend Ash Upson in 1882 about his experiences with McCarty. However, he lost the next election for Lincoln County sheriff and was never paid the $500 reward for McCarty's capture, since he had allegedly killed him. In 1884, he lost an election for the New Mexico State Senate (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Mexico_State_Senate). Later that year, he left New Mexico and helped found and captain a company of Texas Rangers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_Ranger_Division).
He returned to New Mexico briefly in 1885. In October 1889, Garrett ran for Chaves County, New Mexico (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaves_County%2C_New_Mexico), sheriff but lost. By this time, his rough disposition was beginning to wear thin with much of the populace, and rumors of his less than admirable killing of Billy The Kid were beginning to affect his popularity. Garrett left New Mexico in 1891 for Uvalde, Texas (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uvalde%2C_Texas). He returned to New Mexico in 1896 to investigate the disappearance of Albert Jennings Fountain (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Jennings_Fountain) and Fountain's young son Henry.

Here is an example of the book. Enjoy!

Mark

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was really disappointed with my dvd of "chisum"
bought it from "hmv" but the sound quality was really bad and distorted - it meant having to concentrate more to pick up the story line - what made it worse was that all the background info that you can go onto came out fine - was just the film that wasn t right

was really disappointed with my dvd of "chisum"
bought it from "hmv" but the sound quality was really bad and distorted - it meant having to concentrate more to pick up the story line - what made it worse was that all the background info that you can go onto came out fine - was just the film that wasn t right.

Sounds like a faulty copy. Take it back and get another one hopefully that will help.

Mike

I have been away for a while, and just wanted to say hi!
Speaking of Chisum, I love the picture of John Wayne, on his horse on the hill, looking into the distance. This is how I always will remember the Great John Wayne! Does anybody know if there is a poster or picture out there of him in that manor?


That image is on #2 of both the 8x10 and 11x14 lobby cards for the movie. Occasionally you can find them on Ebay. The image was also on the cast mug John Wayne gave away for this film. One of my favorite scenes too!

A theme that will never be mistaken for another!

23oLub3_snk

I find I like Chisum better now than I did at the time of its release. Its a great Wayne movie!
Best bit is when Hank Worden does a great horse leap over the barricade 'cos he's gotta warn the stage!
Hank did the stunt himself too. I'm suprised there isn't a thread about him since he appeared in almost all of the Duke's westerns not just the Fords.

Hank Worden
I'm suprised there isn't a thread about him since he appeared in almost all of the Duke's westerns not just the Fords.

There's no need to be suprised, it's covered, and here it is,

take a look here:-


Pals Of The Saddle- Hank Worden (http://www.dukewayne.com/showthread.php?t=1974)

I like the movie but some of the fight scenes seem obviously fakey to me, I assume stunt people were used, not as good as other movies.

I have been away for a while, and just wanted to say hi!
Speaking of Chisum, I love the picture of John Wayne, on his horse on the hill, looking into the distance. This is how I always will remember the Great John Wayne! Does anybody know if there is a poster or picture out there of him in that manor?


That image is on #2 of both the 8x10 and 11x14 lobby cards for the movie. Occasionally you can find them on Ebay. The image was also on the cast mug John Wayne gave away for this film. One of my favorite scenes too!

JP, here are some screen prints for you.

http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff24/R3v3lat10n/John%20Wayne/Chisum2.jpg

http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff24/R3v3lat10n/John%20Wayne/Chisum5.jpg

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I like the film alot more now than when I first saw it. the fault was that I didn't know it was a "Billy the Kid" plot. I expected a new story with Duke. Once I'd grown to accept the story line, I appreciated the film much more.
I liked the action, especially the final confrontation between Duke & Tucker (sure "Bad Chuck" did alot of the fight, but it was still a nice old-fashioned battle).

Just watched this again last night. As everyone knows, Duke tried to help out friends whenever possible, with roles in his films. John Agar was one who Duke used whenever he was available. Another was stuntman Bob Morgan-who can be seen as the bartender when Duke & Ben Johnson go to the saloon before the horse thieves confrontaion. I believe he also has a small role in Rio Lobo, again as a bartender (alongside Don 'Red" barry), when Duke meets up with Rivero & Mitchum in the saloon tent. As most of you know, Morgan was badly injured doing a stunt on How The West Was Won, that limited his ability to do stuntwork from that point on.

I was in Paris, Texas today, and I passed a little park, where I saw what looked like a monument of some sort (It was hidden by the trees). I saw the Texas historical marker on it and had to stop and read it... It turned out to be the grave of John S. Chisum!

I knew he was buried somewhere in Paris, but until today didn't know exactly where.

I didn't snap any pictures of it (it was raining and I didn't stay that long!), but I found this sight on line that has some pictures as well as the text on the historical marker. I thought it might be interesting for the fans of the movie "Chisum"

http://www.waymarking.com/waymarks/WM5K00

Another fine, effortless-looking Wayne film. The only cringe inducing moment is someone braying the song "Sally". I wish that could be removed from the soundtrack.
Has anyone else commented on the fact that this is a minor reunion of Sands of Iwo Jima with Duke, Forrest Tucker, John Agar and Richard Jaeckel?



We deal in lead, friend.

I was impressed Forrest Tucker did all the fighting himself, despite being older and heavier than he was in Sands of Iwo Jima. My only real regret about this fine film was that the actor playing Billy the Kid was quite weak. You couldn't ever imagine he was a ruthless killer at all.

Well, Jim Burke doubled him during part of the fight and the fall, but Tucker DID do the bulk of it himself. It was kinda strange that Tucker's character was able to fire a shotgun at point blank range at Chisum (as he came thru the window) and STILL missed him. Then Chisum jumps him and they crash into a chair that smashes to pieces, but mysteriously is back together a second later for Chisum to fall onto.

Well, Jim Burke doubled him during part of the fight and the fall, but Tucker DID do the bulk of it himself. It was kinda strange that Tucker's character was able to fire a shotgun at point blank range at Chisum (as he came thru the window) and STILL missed him. Then Chisum jumps him and they crash into a chair that smashes to pieces, but mysteriously is back together a second later for Chisum to fall onto.

Hey, you have to watch those Hollywood chairs. They're sneaky.

yeah I have to find out where you get those!

It's kinda funny about "bad" Chuck Roberson as JW's double in this film and the final chase scene with Maureen in McLintock. As she runs out of the store with JW close behind, she turns over a huge stack of cans, and you can clearly see it's Chuck - not Duke that is in the shot, so you have wonder if McLaglen (who directed both films) left too much up to his film editor, or if he just missed the obvious mistake himself for whatever reason. I prefer to think someone in continuity just goofed...in both movies!

here's a picture I came across

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c187/john-wayne/John%20Wayne/AndyJohnWaynesonMichaelWayne-filmed.jpg
Andrew Fernady(Producer) Duke and Michael Wayne
(Executive Producer) on the set of Chisum

I was 10 when i first saw chisum.it was the first jw film i saw.i just loved the film.i watch it back to back.i taught ben johnson stole the film.he was excellent as the muttering pepper.did u know that the chisum ranch house is the same as the ranch in big jake look at the scenery around the ranch.

Ben's Pepper reminded me quite a bit of Ken Curtis' Festus. A fun film could have been made teaming those characters in a western!

Pity about the final fight sequence.Too much evidence of a stunt double..Still a great movie.

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From Paula

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Did someone say Pepper and Festus? ;)

Here they are! Actually it's Ben as a bad guy being apprehended by Festus in the Gunsmoke episode "Quaker Girl." Sorry for the bad quality of the picture, that's what happens when one makes screencaps from TVLand broadcasts.

http://i742.photobucket.com/albums/xx61/pvitari/Quaker%20Girl/Quaker281-1.jpg

Lobby Card Mexicaine
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I just added to my Ben Johnson webpage screencaps of Ben's scenes from Chisum. Although I just did Ben's scenes, that still means lots and lots of John Wayne too! :) Here are a few pics which I hope will tempt you over to the webpage to look at more. http://benjohnsonscreencaps.shutterfly.com


http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/2678/chisum520.jpg (http://img856.imageshack.us/i/chisum520.jpg/)

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Chisum trading cards! These are really fun items. ;)

http://i742.photobucket.com/albums/xx61/pvitari/Ben%20Pics%202012/ChisumCards-2FrontM.jpg

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More Chisum photos.

http://i742.photobucket.com/albums/xx61/pvitari/Ben%20Pics%202012/Chisum-2S-1.jpg

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Those Chisum collector cards are really neat, Paula. Where did you get them and what year were they produced? I've never seen them before.

Mark

Hi, Mark. I got those cards from ebay and alas, I don't have any information about them.

I liked Pepper and his mumbling. Good western. I enjoy watching it.

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Thanks for posting those cards- I see that it was actor Lloyd Batista who played Neemo (the Bandit who rustled Chisum's cattle leading to the river gunfight). He was earlier confused with Pedro Armandariz Jr. (who played one of Billy's friends).

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John Wayne and Forrest Tucker eye to eye in Chisum. I wish you call all see the original of this. It's a big oversize placard on stiff cardboard paper. I had to use the oversize scanner at work to make the scan.

http://i742.photobucket.com/albums/xx61/pvitari/Chisum-3M.jpg

Waaaa-aaayyyyllllll <---Jimmy Stewart drawl...

Here's two more oversized placards from Chisum. I'm planning to post them at my Ben Johnson webpage tomorrow (Monday).

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but that's Dollor John Wayne is riding in Chisum, isn't it? Ben rode his favorite movie horse from the mid/late '60s-early '70s, Blackie, though you can't really see the horse in this first photo.

http://i742.photobucket.com/albums/xx61/pvitari/Ben%20Pics%202012/Chisum-8S-1.jpg

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These are great Paula!
Thanks for sharing them.
I may upload some stuff too but your stuff it way cooler!

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My family was flying back from vacation in Mazatlan Mexico and I sat next to Forrest Tucker going home from a shoot on their Mexico set. Nice guy.

That's a great story Tommy, i'm a big fan of this movie, A Sands of Iwo Jima reunion of sorts with a great standoff at the end but I think they could have done a better job casting Billy The Kid and Pat Garrett. Have to love the theme!

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