Hi all!
I will give you some information about those two Churches we can see in The Quiet Man. After 2003 are they both named as St. Mary Church one Catholic and one Protestant.
Len

I understand that the inside scene was filmed in the Catholic church but the outside one was at the Protestant church.

I have to say that it seems to me Ford was reaching a bit with the holy water font being outside. You guys still in the Old Sod correct me if I'm wrong, but I can't imagine a priest putting a holy water font outside for the birds to be able to take their baths in.

Maybe the priest was a n animal lover and wanted to bless all critters.

Hi all here is a story about the Holy Water scene by The foootsteps of TQM.

Among Lord Killanin’s many anecdotes is one of the holy water scene:

We used the interior of the Catholic church in Cong, with its magnificent Harry Clarke stained-glass window, preserved to this day in the reconstructed church, and the exterior of the Church of Ireland just a few hundred yards away at the exit gates from Ashford Castle. Jack Ford was keen to capture Clarke’s work in the movie – even though he had to slow down the camera, which made Duke Wayne’s walk a little stranger than usual as he came down the aisle. [Clarke, a Dublin artist born a hundred years ago of an English father and Irish mother, is now recognised internationally as a bizarre genius of his age.]
Using the Protestant church led to trouble for Jack and I. The holy water font was taken from outside the Catholic church and placed at the door of the Church of Ireland for the patty-fingers scene. Well, it was left there by mistake and the following Sunday when the Protestants turned up they objected strongly to the minister, who had given permission for filming, over what they reckoned to be a Parish intrusion. Jack and I were then asked to go and see the minister who had been paid for the use of his facilities but had now been reported to his bishop by an angry flock. So we went to see if we could placate the bishop, who happened to be my father-in-law’s bishop and didn’t like us in any case. He never even asked us to sit down and Jack was hopping mad. The bishop wanted us to delete the scene so we explained that it cost about £10,000 a day and this was four or five days work. Needless to say, we kept the scene very much in. On reflection it’s quiet comical when you think about the precarious situation of the minister in the film. Mr Playfair, trying to impress his bishop that the parish should stay open, and the fact he has to depend on the Catholics ‘cheering like Protestant to help save his job.

a classic that no words of mine could do justice do. I ask no more from a movie than this, and have seen far to many that offered less.

Thanks lenrehn for sharing that story. Any other anecdotes would be appreciated.

Hi all,

Overland, thank you for the link to The Quiet Man cottage.
I have been to Cong, were the movie was made a few times,
and have also been to Maam's Cross and seen the cottage.
It's so sad that it has been allowed to fall into such disarray.

Hi Emmanuel,

How you doing?

Here is our link to the dedicated thread.


Duke's Movie Locations- Ireland
(http://www.dukewayne.com/showthread.php?t=2621)

Hello
Also, I had the honor of going over to Ireland meeting Lord Killain (he was a partner with John Ford) and visiting the Quiet Man Cottage. You can see a short film at http://www.quietmancottage.com

I plan to do alot more about the Cottage and the Quiet Man.


It is ruined isn't it?:cry2:

A talented actor with a great career

Yes it is. The man (in America) that owns it. Wants to restore it so people can sleep in the Cottage. I don't know if it ever happened.

I hope to show how it was built for the film...I did talk to one of John Ford's family members in Ireland. He said (john ford's) Father's Cottage is still there on their land.

I was thinking about my favorite movie last night and wondering if anyone ever came up with a translation for the Gaelic dialogue in the movie.

I'm particularly interested in the conversation between Mary Kate and Fr. Lonergan.

Would any of our friends over in Ireland be able to translate it?

Hi Tbone,

I believe this has already been discussed in this thread.
We have a member called lenrehn,
whi is very knowledgable on all matters relating to this film.
If you care to check his posts, I think he's mentioned it.

Tbone,

Here's one post mentioning this:-

Here comes a short quote from CNN Larry King Live 2, an interview with Maureen O'Hara. Aired January 2, 2003 - 21:00 ET. That is not a really answer about what she was whispering to Wayne but that is maybe so close you may come.



KING: Tell me about these commentaries you've been doing for some DVD editions of films. They release a DVD and you appear on it to talk about it, John Wayne kind of movies?
O'HARA: Yes. There's one on "Rio Grande," which was the movie we did to raise the money to make "The Quiet Man," because we couldn't get finance. I think I have told you this before. And also on "The Quiet Man." So there's two DVDs out now. They're pretty good.
KING: I want to talk about John Wayne. We understand you're going to tell us something that you didn't tell us last time about what you whispered to him.
O'HARA: Oh, not on your life.
KING: You're not going to tell it now.
O'HARA: No. Never, never, never.
KING: Last scene of "The Quiet Man" Maureen's character whispers something in the ear of John Wayne's character. Whatever she said apparently shocked Wayne because his head jerked back and his eyes grows wide with disbelief. Wayne never told anyone what she said and John Ford the director never did either.
O'HARA: That was the deal. When John Ford said you are to say so and so To Wayne, I said, what? Me? No way. And he said, you're being ordered to do it. You do it. And I realized it was nothing I could do. When you try to battle with John Ford, you have to give in. And I said, well there's one stipulation. That you will never tell anybody what it is that you demanded that I say. And, John Wayne will never tell. And the three of us made the deal.
KING: So it was (UNINTELLIGIBLE) to what you are. One can imagine it was sexual or cursing or both?
O'HARA: Little bit of both.
KING: And Wayne did not know you were going to say it?
O'HARA: No. Didn't you see the look on his face when he turns around.
KING: That's one of the most famous endings of movies ever, right. So that must have been the question asked of you. That movie was such a big hit.
O'HARA: Everybody asks me. Even my lawyer in New York asked me the day before yesterday. I said I'm tired telling you, never. Duke is dead.
KING: Was it nervous for you to say it?
O'HARA: It was awful. I hated it.
KING: Did you only have to say it once?
O'HARA: Only once. Not twice. Well, you wouldn't get the reaction.

Len

I think Tbone is talking about the scene where Mary Kate talks to Father Lonergan by the stream while he is fishing. She wants to tell him about the troubles she is having with Sean but feels more comfortable speaking in Gaelic. Like Tbone, I myself have wondered what the translation would be to what she tells him. Any of our members from across the sea who speak or understand Gaelic care to translate, if possible?

Mark

That's right Mark. That is the primary scene I'm interested in. There are other Irish quips throughout the movie too. For example, I think Barry Fitzgerald is using an Irish term for matchmaker in the scene with Mary Kate where he comes to talk with her about the match making and is a bit tipsy. But I'm not sure what he's saying there.

As to what Maureen said to Duke, I have to admit I've even slowed the movie down and expanded the image and I still can't tell what she said. Unless someone is really good at reading lips from the side, I don't think we'll ever know what exactly was said, but based on Duke's reaction and Maureen's acknowledgement, we can probably imagine pretty well.

Thanks,

Hi all
I can’t tell you what Mary Kate Danaher are telling to Father Lonergan with the stream but both Bryan Varnam and I are members in The Quiet Man Movie Club and there is an member who is living in Ireland and maybe he can Gaelic so I put in a question about that in the club and maybe I will have an answer from him. You can go to Bryan’s home site if you like http://www.bryanvarnam.com/ (http://www.bryanvarnam.com/) there you can buy his painting The Whisper.
Len

Thanks lenrehn!

Bryan's quite an artist. Thanks for the link to his paintings.

Hi all
I got an answer from him but that is not straight line word by word when I think he is an Protestant when that is the Catholic people who is talking Gaelic (Irish).
Hi Len, what Mary Kate is telling Father Lonergan, is that since the wedding, Sean has been sleeping in a sleeping bag and not in their wedding bed. Which in Ireland back in those days was a mortal sin and a poor reflection of the wife's attractions. I'm sure you remember the scene the morning after the wedding when Hugh Forbes and friends come to the cottage with her furniture and she tells Sean` Don't be shaming me in front of your friends`… Noel.
Len

Thanks lenrehn!

Hi all The Quiet Man Maniac’s.
I like to give you a quote from The Quiet Man Movie Club.
The restoration of Pat Cohan is now nearing completion and visitors to Cong village will soon be able to stop in a have a ”pint of the black beer” just like Sean Thornton and Will Danaher did at the end of their epic fight.
The official opening date will be 17th September 2008.
You may have more information on http://www.quietmanmovieclub.com/ (http://www.quietmanmovieclub.com/)
Len

That would be so cool to be able to amble up to the bar and have a black beer at Cohan's. It would be just like stepping into the movie itself, if just for a brief second. Thanks for sharing that news, lenrehn. It's a crime I live on a different continent, as I would love to see it in person.

Mark

I'll have to give Emmanuel a call,
and meet you all there for a pint.
Great news, and I'm sure ti will be great success.

That would be so cool to be able to amble up to the bar and have a black beer at Cohan's. It would be just like stepping into the movie itself, if just for a brief second. Thanks for sharing that news, lenrehn. It's a crime I live on a different continent, as I would love to see it in person.

Mark

I am with you Mark...... I can only hope that someday I can visit these places......

Wow, great news! So will they call it "Cohan's" hard "H" or "Cohan's" Silent "H"?

Hi Tbone
They call it "Co-han" with hard "H"
Len

Is there a possibility that a few of our UK members (I think we have close to a dozen active members) might be meeting there for the grand opening? If so, PLEASE take a picture for the rest of us. Wish I could be there, to raise a pint to Duke!

Thanks, lenrehn, for letting us know about this.

Chester :newyear:

Bryan Varnam and I are waiting on interior photographs from the bar by a member in The Quiet Man Movie Club but I don’t know when or if we will get them yet.
Len

Hi all
Here is litle news from Pat Cohan Bar
http://www.patcohan.com/
Len

Hi all
Here is litle news from Pat Cohan Bar
http://www.patcohan.com/
Len
Hi Len, Great post and information,
Thanks for your continued support of this dedicated thread.
I'm sure we would really appreciate, if you could also
post this and any other location information
on our
Duke's Movie Locations- Ireland (http://www.dukewayne.com/showthread.php?t=2621)
I would be most grateful for your input on that thread

The Quiet Man being one of mine and my Wife's favorites getting to see the Pub would be an added bonus.
I still love the part were Father Lonergan (Ward Bond) on the bridge tells his congregation to cheer or yell like Protestants when the Bishop goes by, and
the retired officer in the Pub reading the newspaper and never being distracted.:smile:

You would be hard pressed to think of another movie like The Quiet Man. It is unique and wouldnt be made today.

I’m sorry ShortGrub, but father Lonergan was not on that bridge when that was Reverent Playfair who was betting with the Bishop.
Len

I’m sorry ShortGrub, but father Lonergan was not on that bridge when that was Reverent Playfair who was betting with the Bishop.
Len


My friend I was referring to the end of the movie when Father Lonergan tied a bandanna around his Catholic collar and asked the residents to yell like Protestants when Rev Playfair drove the Bishop by in the car.:wink:

Oh, yes that was a wonderful scene too.
Len

i really loved this film - one of the nicest films i ve ever watched - the idea of couples being so closely chaperoned... did that really happen in the 1920s?
the cemetary scene lived up to all the romance i ve heard about it but my favourite line in the film has to be "


Now when the Reverend Mr. Playfair, good man that he is, comes down, I want us all to cheer like Protestants. classic

The story in The Quiet Man is happen some of the first year after the Black and Tan War in Ireland, who ended in 1920 – 1921. So the movies story can be in 1922 – 1923, some people are telling that year was 1923.
Len

I watch this movie every St Pats day, kind of a tradition for me. Have some Irish coffee as well :teeth_smile:

I watched this movie twice this past week. I have never seen a movie like it or resembling it. I think that as many have stated already it is truly unique and in a very good way. I think one of my favorite scenes is when the Duke gets off the train and their all trying to help with directions but confusing him and everyone else mostly. I think that all them in it were at their finest and you could tell that they were enjoying their roles. Just what i percieved anyways.

FarmerSteve,

It is without a doubt the finest piece of film art ever created by mankind and will never be eclipsed in its cinematic historical significance.

In case you haven’t guessed, I’m a big fan of the film myself. :holiday_irish:

A beautiful speech! I love your word when I am a big TQM fan.
Len

In the last scene Mary Kate whispers something into Sean's ear.....I wonder what she said :sleepy:

Only three people knew what she said, and two of those have been dead for 30 years or more.

<H1 style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt">I will give you a short quote from the CNN Larry King Live 2 Interview with Maureen O'Hara Aired January 2, 2003.

KING: I want to talk about John Wayne. We understand you're going to tell us something that you didn't tell us last time about what you whispered to him.
O'HARA: Oh, not on your life.
KING: You're not going to tell it now.
O'HARA: No. Never, never, never.
KING: Last scene of "The Quiet Man" Maureen's character whispers something in the ear of John Wayne's character. Whatever she said apparently shocked Wayne because his head jerked back and his eyes grows wide with disbelief. Wayne never told anyone what she said and John Ford the director never did either.
O'HARA: That was the deal. When John Ford said you are to say so and so To Wayne, I said, what? Me? No way. And he said, you're being ordered to do it. You do it. And I realized it was nothing I could do. When you try to battle with John Ford, you have to give in. And I said, well there's one stipulation. That you will never tell anybody what it is that you demanded that I say. And, John Wayne will never tell. And the three of us made the deal.
KING: So it was to what you are. One can imagine it was sexual or cursing or both?
O'HARA: Little bit of both.

Len

:teeth_smile:</H1>

I've tried to slow the end of the movie down to try to read her lips but haven't been able to tell what she said.

I can guess, but then can't we all.

I love the scene when Red Will first comes into the pub "I'm a man from Innisfree, and the best man...." and in the left corner of the frame we see Feeny pick up someone's unfinished pint, slyly look around, then drain the glass. Says everything about the character in a few silent seconds!
Also the jolly scene when Sean buys drinks all round but never manages to got one himself as he keeps handing them out while Micheleen does very nicely! Beautifully choreagraphed, and worth running back to study!

I like the scene where Mary Kate takes a swing at Sean, reminds me of my ex wife

A wonderful strong scene is there Michaeleen sitting whit White O’Morn and been asked for saddle up Sean’s horse and he say. Saddle his horse? I´ll have no part in helping you to put more shame on her. Saddle his horse... Dam da dam da, diddle de da...
Len

One of my favorite lines in the film comes from Michaeleen.

"Is this a courtin', or a donnybrook? Have the good manners not to hit the man untill he's your husband. And entitled to hit ya back."I chuckle every time I hear that line.

Ervserver,

You know when Maureen took that swing at Duke, she was mad because of what happened in the sceen where he drags her through the field with the sheep dip.

Duke saw the swing coming at a better clip than he knew it should have so ohe put his hand up to block it and Maureen broke her hand.

That you are talking about was happen in Sean's first night on White O'Morn, not on the filts with sheep dip.
Len

Duke saw the swing coming at a better clip than he knew it should have so he put his hand up to block it and Maureen broke her hand.
Tbone,
Maureen actually broke her hand? I had not heard that before. Ouch !

Chester :newyear:

Hi again. Here is a new quote from the same Larry King Live.
KING: There's a story that you broke your wrist hitting Wayne in "The Quiet Man?"
O'HARA: Yes. Yes, I did.
KING: How did that happen? I thought in hitting scenes you're not supposed to strike.
O'HARA: No.
KING: Aren't you supposed to miss?
O'HARA: No. Yes, there are times when you have to, and they have you hit on the upstage side.
But if you look at the film, at that time I was mad at Duke and I was really going to sock him...
KING: Mad at him off stage?
O'HARA: Off stage. OK. Accepted.
I hauled off to hit him and he, being fine stocked man and a boxer and everything else, he saw it coming. And if you look at the film, you'll see that as I came, he put his hand up and my hand snapped off of his because his hand was much stronger than mine.
And I was taken immediately to the local hospital near Republic Studios and I had cracked a bone in my wrist.
You must remember that John Wayne kicked Maureen O’Hara’s ass in that field.
Len

John Wayne and Maureen O'Hara choreographed the entire sequence of events which involved Dukes character dragging Mary Kate from the train station to her brothers farm. John Ford never said anything about this scene, but he must have liked it as he kept it in the film.

:agent:

Andrew McLaglen asked John Ford to clean up that field from all sheep dip but John Ford was saying no. That scene there John Wayne dragged and kicked Maureen O’Hara in her ass been a scene the Irish people hated when they got a feeling of that was they John Wayne dragged on the dirty ground. Maureen O’Hara told that she got a feeling about that was a deep revenge from John Ford after they had shot the scenes on the Inisfree Race in Connemara.
Len

Ervserver,

Duke saw the swing coming at a better clip than he knew it should have so ohe put his hand up to block it and Maureen broke her hand.


wow i had no idea that she broke her hand i wonder how duke felt after that

John Ford got his dramatic scene so he was very happy. But I haven’t could find anything about John Wayne’s feelings about Maureen O’Hara’s cracked bone. We can only guess about John Wayne’s feelings in that scene, but we know he was a really Gentleman, so I think he not was happy for her brooked bone in her wrist. That was a big happy for her when it happen in US and not here in Europe.
Len

Definitely the best John Wayne Movie which wasn't a Western, War Movie, Action Movie or Adventure. I always liked it and think is next to THE SEARCHERS a Highlight of his work with John Ford. Maureen and Duke already shown in RIO GRANDE that they have a great chemistry together. I always see this movie as a beautiful adult tale and the Music is great too. :teeth_smile:

Hello I have been a john Wayne fan all my life. My favorite move was the Quiet man. Does anyone know who makes the cap he wore in the movie? and can a person still get one today? Thanks and any help would be great.



Moderator note - I've copied Inova's question here to this thread (from the Newbie forum), in hopes that it might draw the attention of those who possibly have an answer to her question. Chester

Inova,

You might check out this web site.

http://www.omaille.com/quietman.htm

I think now they only limit themselves sweater making. I have to tell you though, my son was over in the Old Country a few years ago and bought me one of those sweaters for Christmas. It is wonderful! He had a big time talking with the folks there about The Quiet Man as it's one of our family's favorite movies.

If you want a fine Irish hat though, check out these folks.

http://www.hannahats.com/

They make a quality hat.

To Some of you people that live in The British Isles, Maureen O'Hara said that the original story was too Political and had a lot to do with the I.R.A. what ever that means. :huh:

Maybe some of you could tell us that live in the U.S. what all this is about? Is it all about the Christian Religion, Catholics and Protestants, if so thats a Hell of a note! :angry:

I know, we had plenty of the same problems here in the U.S. in the past. But now we have some people here in the U.S. trying to do away with all Religion!!! :fear2:

Even tho I like almost all of Duke's Westerns, "The Quiet Man" would be Right at the top of the list of John Wayne Films. :D

If you would like to see what Maureen O'Hara :wub: had to say about the making of the Film in Ireland you can go to, QUIET MAN (http://www.wyntoontrip.com/QUIETMAN.html) and then just Clicking NEXT. :rolleyes:

Chilibill :cowboy:

The Republic of Ireland was only two year’s old in that time The Quiet Man been recorded so all about politics was very sensitive. Some people have told that was John Ford who was afraid for that politics and other say that was Yates. Other told that John Ford not was afraid for anything.
Len

From what I remember original Quiet Man story was part a political drama with the recent 1920s troubles as a background and part love story between Sean & Kathleen.

I think the political part of the story was jettisoned early on in the drafting process by Ford and he concentrated on the love story with Sean & Mary Kate.

Yates had zero interest in making The Quiet Man and was only funding it as Ford Wayne & O'Hara had done Rio Grande for Republic for a certain budget.

The Quiet Man must rate as one of the most unusual movies Ford & Wayne ever made. I certainly have started to appreciate the movie more as I grow older than I did in growing up in my teens or twenties.

I think Maureen O Hara's book gives quite a lot of detail about the making of the movie and there was also a book The Making of The Quiet Man released awhile back in UK.

You told that Herbert J. Yates had zero interest in The Quiet Man but so is it not when he was trying to destroy his own agreement with John Ford about two movies for Republic. TQM was a movie Yates hat like poison.

In prowling around to find information about the new movie being made in Ireland, I stumbled across the Quiet Man Movie Club (http://www.quietmanmovieclub.com/index.htm). On their site (the tab entitled "Latest News", they had an interesting tale about how the old railroad (and station) that was used during TQM was being refurbished to be used again for the tourist industry.

Chester :newyear:

St.Patricks Day,
anyone watching this today?

Yes ...... it's got to be this for today..... I love the movie !!!! The only bad thing about it is the dodgy accents !!!! But after a few " pints " ...... I'll probably be joining in !!!!! :hyper:

For the benefit of some our European members,
who have mentioned it on the ESG

The music in The Quiet Man.

Bonus question for lip readers: in one of the bar scenes where they sing "Wild Colonial Boy," what were they originally singing? It's obvious by the way their mouths move it's a different song.

Yes it is. The man (in America) that owns it. Wants to restore it so people can sleep in the Cottage. I don't know if it ever happened.

Apparently nothing has been done since a fire in 2002! The roof was destroyed and the building is coming apart, to the point that individual stones have been carried off as souvenirs! Why didn't the owner have, and use, insurance to restore and preserve the building? For that matter, didn't a family live in it at the time of the film, and what became of them?

John Ford got his dramatic scene so he was very happy. But I haven’t could find anything about John Wayne’s feelings about Maureen O’Hara’s cracked bone. We can only guess about John Wayne’s feelings in that scene, but we know he was a really Gentleman, so I think he not was happy for her brooked bone in her wrist. That was a big happy for her when it happen in US and not here in Europe.
Len

It was a couple of fingers, not a wrist, and she said on the DVD narration that he asked her how she was right after it happened--he knew she must have been hurt.

The story in The Quiet Man is happen some of the first year after the Black and Tan War in Ireland, who ended in 1920 – 1921. So the movies story can be in 1922 – 1923, some people are telling that year was 1923.
Len

Okay, I had no idea the movie was set that far back. I thought people were just dressing 30 years out of date to give it a quaint look. Perhaps those hayburning contraptions were no longer in use by the '50s, so that scene, which was original to the story, would not have worked?

Couple thoughts: I noticed the photographic equipment used to take the wedding portrait was antiquated, probably even for the 1920s, but just figured it was a poor country where not everything was state of the art. How about the boxing match scene? Anyone know the vintage of the cameras?

Also, when Sean reads that the Reverend Mr. Playfair was a boxer in "nineteen hundred and--" I always assumed it could be up to 40 years earlier, but if it takes place in the early 1920s could not be more than just slightly over 20 years previously at most.

Kewl, here's the story!

http://www.apex.net.au/~mhumphry/QManSEP.html

Fight scene's a lot shorter, ain't it?

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Kewl, here's the story!

http://www.apex.net.au/~mhumphry/QManSEP.html

Fight scene's a lot shorter, ain't it?

For those of you reading the story, if you're interested in seeing what Knockanore Hill looks like in real life, here it is...



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A wonderful strong scene is there Michaeleen sitting whit White O’Morn and been asked for saddle up Sean’s horse and he say. Saddle his horse? I´ll have no part in helping you to put more shame on her. Saddle his horse... Dam da dam da, diddle de da...
Len



Dam da dam da, diddle de da... aka The Rakes of Mallow

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For the new book

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With kind permission of the photographer Patrick McCormick

The cover of book Patrick designed for Des MacHale...

I was thinking about my favorite movie last night and wondering if anyone ever came up with a translation for the Gaelic dialogue in the movie.

I'm particularly interested in the conversation between Mary Kate and Fr. Lonergan.

Would any of our friends over in Ireland be able to translate it?

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This question was asked sometime ago,
and to my knowledge never fully answered
Now with thanks to Johanna Ní Mháille
of Save The Quiet Man Cottage (http://www.facebook.com/groups/139441216076635/)
We have a full translation:-


Mary Kate Danaher: Father, could I... tell you in the Irish?
Father Lonergan: “Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.”
Father Peter Lonergan, Narrator: [distracted, fishing] Sea, sea.

Gaelic
Mary Kate Danaher: [very hesitantly] Níor lig mé m'fhear chéile isteach i mo leaba liom aréir. Chuir mé fuinneamh air a chodladh i - Ó, i mála codlata! Mála codlata!

English
Mary Kate: “I didn't allow my husband into bed with me last night...I forced him to sleep in - oh, in a bag for sleeping! a bag for sleeping.”

Gaelic
Father Peter Lonergan, Narrator: Céad é sin? "Bag?"

English
Father Lonergan: “Bag --? What’s that? ‘Bag?’”

Gaelic
Mary Kate Danaher: Sleeping bag, Father, with... with buttons! Más breá é, níor rith sé ar a shon. An peaca é?

English
Mary Kate: "Sleeping bag, Father, with… buttons! My dowry, he didn’t fight for it. Is it a sin?”

Father Peter Lonergan, Narrator: [exasperated]
Woman, Ireland may be a poor country, God help us.
But here, a married man sleeps in a bed, not a bag!]

Apparently Johanna also read this
If you want to talk to a priest, it is better to talk to him in Gaelic.
It's the only language that god can not understand.

Thanks for getting this info, Keith. I also had wondered what she was saying.

Mark

Further to the above translation,
Johanna added this:-
At the opening of The Quiet Man Festival in Cong on Friday evening,
you'll be interested to know that Maureen O'Hara recounted this scene
we were discussing the(Irish dialogue in the film) word for word,
the scene where she has to tell the priest her husband slept
in a “mála codlata”, a sleeping bag, on the night of their wedding etc.
Amazing...she remembered every word of it!
I was delighted to hear her speaking Irish & amazed
she remembered every word...talented lady!

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I leave it to Maureen O'Hara care to elaborate a little, knowing that his favorite movie, that for which it has invested the most. At the top of her art, she wanted the studios offered him roles with the same height, same power ..

Maureen wrote:

We are June 3, 1951 - "The cares of the world seemed to vanish overnight and a feeling of peace and serenity took me over as my plane reached the coast of Ireland and closed in on Shannon Airport. ..

... I saw her sprawling central plain again, surrounded by mountainous hues that varied from lush emerald green to the deep purple of heather to the solemn richness of her dark black blogs. I have never seen her more majestic than she was that summer of 1951 ...

... this would be the first time she was ever captured in Technicolor, and I knew before our wheels ever touched the ground that the real star of The Quiet Man would be Ireland herself ...

... Ford purchased the motion-picture rights to the story from Walsh in 1936 for only $ 10 ... then spent the next fifteen years working on developing the story into a screenplay that he could get financed.

... Most of the work we did on the "Araner" involved removing thepolitics from the story and focusing it on romance and comedy. It was screenwriter Frank Nugent, who later masterfully fleshed out the plot and characters with Mr. Ford, and who brought to the film its whimsical humor.

... John Ford chose the lovely little village of Cong, in County Mayo, as the village of Innisfree. All of the exterior sequences for The Quiet Man were filmed in Cong, surrounding areas within ​​County Mayo, and a few in nearby County Galway and County Clare.

... Of course, the principal players in the picture were Duke, myself, Victor McLaglen, Mildred Natwick, Ward Bond, Francis Ford, and Barry Fitzgerald. We were the only Hollywood actors who filmed in Ireland. The other characters credited in the film as the "Irish Players" were cast from local Irish talent, and many of them were members of the Abbey Theater.

... One of the most specialthings about making "The Quiet Man" is that it truly was a family affair. Many family members of the principal cast and crew were a part in this picture.

.... There is only one fitting way to end our discussion of "The Quiet Man", and that's with a whisper. No matter what part of the world I'm in, the question I am always asked is "What did you whisper into John Wayne's ear at the end of The Quiet Man?" It was ​​John Ford's idea; it was the ending he wanted. I was told by Mr. Ford exactly what I was to say. At first I refused. I said, "No, I can't. I can't say that to Duke. "But Mr. Ford wanted avery shocked reaction from Duke, and he said,''I'm telling you, you are to say it." I had no choice, and so I agreed, but with a catch: "I'll say it on one condition-that it is never ever repeated or revealed to anyone." So we made a deal. After the scene was over, we told Duke about our agreement and the three of us made a pact. There are those who claim that they where told and know what I said. They don't and are lying. John Ford took it to his grave - so did Duke - and the answer will die with me ... "

A reminder of useful links ...

Original trailer (http://www.archive-host.com/video.php?id=23a497e68707a89c2c5893de6b93aec4f3d18 831.mp4)

Small clip (http://www.archive-host.com/video.php?id=0bcd25aae8fe0fb7e5ddacb9c34735ce74893 84b.mp4)

Tell me if you have problems to read


http://www.archive-host.com/link/ca4a4fc41c8a3a23a07a37295c479cf7cfba0c21.jpg

http://www.archive-host.com/link/e51f7549e5ffdcd9705dfc46409f4f5851903454.jpg

http://www.archive-host.com/link/864b358cd57813a53d49e13862b9041cbed73c69.jpg

http://www.archive-host.com/link/32f1d5fccdd2ff9036d8101f6ac3e782d8c6a477.jpg

http://www.archive-host.com/link/af18e66c6aef6154e231e9b7160ddf81ae8f2a8b.jpg

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.................... The pictures from the film .......................

http://www.archive-host.com/link/a441d4683f3364b58f8ebad7d29fac474169ea24.jpg

http://www.archive-host.com/link/77e32f7d2101cf59940dc6de1f18632e80930b4c.jpg

Featured in the Kerry Film Festival

Dreaming the Quiet Man (http://www.kerryfilmfestival.com/index.php/archives/2400)

There are cinematic milestones that have left a marked impression on the landscapes in which they were filmed. John Ford's take on his idealized vision of Ireland, 'The Quiet Man', is one such film. When it was released 'The Quiet Man' became a monster hit all across the world and won Oscars for Best Director and Best Cinematography. Its impact went way beyond the Irish Diaspora and it still resonates with international audiences almost 60 years later. This documentary delves into the psyche of John Ford and his twenty year struggle to bring his homage to his parent’s homeland to the screen. The film features contributions from commentators and film makers including Peter Bogdanovich, Martin Scorsese, Jim Sheridan and, exclusively, Maureen O' Hara

Thank you Keith.

For those who live far, no DVD ????

MartyB2, do you know if there is any plans on releasing a better version of "The Quiet Man" on DVD or I could only hope, on Blu-Ray??

Thank you for this informations that should be included in the section "Maureen O'Hara" ...:thumbs_up:

MartyB2, do you know if there is any plans on releasing a better version of "The Quiet Man" on DVD or I could only hope, on Blu-Ray??


I've looked all over and there seems to be no plans to release 'The Quiet Man' on Blu-Ray at this time...I'm sure that it will come out sometime down the road...

I can see no plans for a new DVD coming out either. However, there are two different editions of 'The Quiet Man' DVD that have been released. They have almost identical packaging.

The first is the "John Wayne Collection" edition (ISBN 0-7820-1057-1, ASIN: B00000I1KV). It has "John Wayne Collection" printed on a green band at the top. Its special features include "The Making of the Quiet Man" documentary & the theatrical trailer. Critics say that the sound is decent, but the picture is blurry and full of splotches.

Then there is the "Collector's Edition" (ASIN: B00006JMRD)... - this is the one I have, it has gotten better reviews, particularly as to the sound and picture quality. The special features include Commentary by Maureen O'Hara, the theatrical trailer, "The Joy of Ireland" documentary with Maureen O'Hara, "Remembering The Quiet Man" Montage, and "The Making of The Quiet Man."

I have the DVD "Collector's Edition" and I regret that the image quality is not at the top. :vomit:
I hope that before the success of the cult film, a publisher will release a DVD with images correct.

Ethanedwards- thank you for the videos they are beautiful with pleasant memories and
the Music enhances the mood. Where can I get a copy of that music?
I have a desire to go back to Ireland sometime and go to Cong.

Ethanedwards- thank you for the videos they are beautiful with pleasant memories and
the Music enhances the mood. Where can I get a copy of that music?
I have a desire to go back to Ireland sometime and go to Cong.
Although off topic, there is more information on the score here:-
The Quiet Man Music (http://frankwarner.typepad.com/free_frank_warner/2006/03/the_quiet_man_s.html)
and there is a CD available, but is is not the original sound track
However as it is by performed by the Dublin Screen Orchestra,
it is probably as good as it gets.
Music from The Quiet Man (http://www.cduniverse.com/search/xx/music/pid/1187740/a/Quiet+Man.htm)
Young conducted excerpts from the score for a 10" LP issued at the time of the film's release, but this 1995 recording by the newly formed Dublin Screen Orchestra under the direction of Kenneth Alwyn is the "first complete recording," as a banner on the cover proclaims. Along with Young's music, it contains vocal performances of "The Isle of Innisfree," "The Wild Colonial Boy," and "Galway Bay," songs performed in the film. The result is a long-overdue treatment of one of Young's best scores. ~ William Ruhlmann

Also see:-
Composers Of The Saddle- Victor Young (http://www.dukewayne.com/showthread.php?t=2086)

From everything I've read, the two DVDs of The Quiet Man are both pretty bad looking. The elements exist to restore the film but no one wants to do so. A blu-ray won't happen until and unless there is a restoration. And right now even The Alamo (which is falling apart) can't get a restoration, so I don't hold out much hope for The Quiet Man.

Speaking of which... according to the gossip columns of the day, Ben Johnson was supposed to have a role in the movie! Can't figure out which character he could have played as I can't see him in The Quiet Man at all. But it didn't happen -- whether it was because of his fall-out with John Ford or because even earlier Ford had realized he wasn't right for the movie, I don't know.

I have the DVD "Collector's Edition" and I regret that the image quality is not at the top. :vomit:
I hope that before the success of the cult film, a publisher will release a DVD with images correct.

The Quiet Man was released on DVD in Japan by Tohokushinsha Film Corp. I don't know about the print quality but the company is known for its high standards.

Unfortunately the DVD, released in 2006, is out of print. I actually had it on order but was informed a month later that it's no longer available.

Ben Johnson was supposed to have a role in the movie!

I can't imagine Ben with an Irish accent.

May2, me neither! So whatever reason Ben wasn't in the movie -- it probably was for the best. ;)

:wink_smile:

In the form of two 14-minute video, I propose to introduce to those who have not seen or have forgotten, the "Making of" film "The Quiet Man" released in 1992.
Many little secrets are updated and we understand better the history of this great movie.

Thank you, Mr. Leonard Maltin

This is the first episode (http://www.archive-host.com/video.php?id=59d34aa3fc5c8c156c52e6b1f286489cdbe0b 558.mp4)


and the second and final episode (http://www.archive-host.com/video.php?id=a77ae16cf7a24049f5ff606627a4b1bca8ac2 292.mp4)

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:wink_smile:

The Joy of Ireland

More recent document, since it dates from 2002, we follow many interwiews of Maureen O'Hara and of the son of Victor McLaglen, Andrew, second assistant director at the time.
Both tell many important details about the filming.
Happy reading.

Video 1 (http://www.archive-host.com/video.php?id=6ae9f09ae439d0c60dfb03bae6f02fcffb7f5 f9c.mp4)

Video 2 (http://www.archive-host.com/video.php?id=eecda99ef7c6dbc1ec4a01508f23ac4613d0d 6f6.mp4)

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I just found a German version of the trailer for the film "The Quiet Man".
Curiously, the German title that was given to him (THE CAT WITH THE RED HAIR) has nothing to do with the original title ...
I leave you only judge to appreciate this version (http://www.archive-host.com/video.php?id=127fde5766e87e53accad2c9a9d65977ee6ff d59.mp4). Personally I prefer the voice of Maureen and Duke.