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THE QUIET MAN

DIRECTED BY JOHN FORD
PRODUCED BY MERIAN C. COOPER
MUSIC BY VICTOR YOUNG
AN ARGOSY PRODUCTION
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INFORMATION FROM IMDb

Plot Summary
Sean Thornton has returned from America to reclaim his homestead and escape his past.
Sean's eye is caught by Mary Kate Danaher, a beautiful but poor maiden,
and younger sister of ill-tempered "Red" Will Danaher.
The riotous relationship that forms between Sean and Mary Kate,
punctuated by Will's pugnacious attempts to keep them apart, form the main plot,
with Sean's past as the dark undercurrent.
Summary written by Steve Fenwick

Full Cast
John Wayne .... Sean Thornton
Maureen O'Hara .... Mary Kate Danaher
Barry Fitzgerald .... Michaleen Oge Flynn
Ward Bond .... Father Peter Lonergan
Victor McLaglen .... Squire 'Red' Will Danaher
Mildred Natwick .... The Widow Sarah Tillane
Francis Ford .... Dan Tobin
Eileen Crowe .... Mrs. Elizabeth Playfair
May Craig .... Fishwoman with basket at station
Arthur Shields .... Rev. Cyril 'Snuffy' Playfair
Charles B. Fitzsimons .... Hugh Forbes (as Charles FitzSimons)
James O'Hara .... Father Paul (as James Lilburn)
Sean McClory .... Owen Glynn
Jack MacGowran .... Ignatius Feeney (Squire Daniher's handyman) (as Jack McGowran)
Joseph O'Dea .... Molouney (train guard)
Eric Gorman .... Costello (engine driver)
Kevin Lawless .... Train fireman
Paddy O'Donnell .... Railway porter
Frank Baker .... Man in bar (uncredited)
Tony Canzoneri .... Boxing second (uncredited)
Maureen Coyne .... Dan Tobin's daughter (Ireland) (uncredited)
Ken Curtis .... Dermot Fahy (uncredited)
Mimi Doyle .... Dan Tobin's daughter (USA) (uncredited)
Douglas Evans .... Ring physician (uncredited)
Robert Foy .... Driver of cart across river (uncredited)
Sam Harris .... General (uncredited)
D.R.O. Hatswell .... Guppy (uncredited)
John Horan .... Man at railway station (uncredited)
David Hughes .... Police constable (uncredited)
Billy Jones .... Bugler (uncredited)
Tiny Jones .... Nell (uncredited)
Colin Kenny .... Pub extra (uncredited)
Mae Marsh .... Father Paul's mother (uncredited)
Jim McVeigh .... Man following cart across river (uncredited)
Jim Morrin .... Roof thatcher (uncredited)
Al Murphy .... Boxing referee (uncredited)
Michael O'Brian .... Musha Musha man (uncredited)
Frank O'Connor .... Ringside photographer (uncredited)
Pat O'Malley .... Man in bar (uncredited)
Web Overlander .... Hugh Bailey (stationmaster) (uncredited)
Bob Perry .... Trooper Thorn's ringside trainer (uncredited)
Jack Roper .... Tony Godello (boxer) (uncredited)
Philip Stainton .... Anglican bishop (uncredited)
Harry Tenbrook .... Police Sgt. Hanan (uncredited)
Harry Tyler .... Pat Cohan (publican) (uncredited)
Melinda Wayne .... Girl on wagon at horse race (uncredited)
Michael Wayne .... Teenage boy at races (uncredited)
Patrick Wayne .... Boy on wagon at horse race (uncredited)
Toni Wayne .... Teenage girl at races (uncredited)

Writing Credits
Maurice Walsh (story Green Rushes)
Frank S. Nugent (screenplay)

Produced
Merian C. Cooper
John Ford

Original Music
Victor Young

Cinematography
Winton C. Hoch

Stunts
Joe Fair .... riding double: John Wayne (uncredited)
Fred Kennedy .... stunts (uncredited)
Bob Morgan .... stunts (uncredited)
Terry Wilson .... stunts (uncredited)

Trivia
Barry Fitzgerald, who plays the character of the Roman Catholic Michaleen Oge Flynn, and Arthur Shields, who played the Protestant vicar Cyril 'Snuffy' Playfair, were brothers in real life. They also appeared together in director John Ford's The Long Voyage Home (1940). They were both Protestants born in Dublin, Ireland. Shields was the family name. The Oscar-winner Fitzgerald, who was nearly eight years older than his brother, was born William Joseph Shields.

A replica of the famous thatched cottage in the movie is located at Maam Cross, County Galway, in the west of Ireland.

When the film was first screened in Boston, Mass., Michaleen Flynn's line on seeing the broken bed, "Impetuous! Homeric!", was censored.

The famous fight scene was shot in the grounds of Ashford Castle, Cong, County Mayo. The stunt in which John Wayne punches Victor McLaglen into the river was performed by director John Ford's son, Patrick Ford (doubling for McLaglen).

The horse racing sequence was shot at Lettergesh beach, Connemara, on the west coast of Ireland.

At the film's conclusion, after the credits, we see Kate and Sean standing in their garden waving good-bye. Maureen O'Hara turns to John Wayne and whispers something in his ear, evoking a priceless reaction from Wayne. What was said was known only to O'Hara, Wayne and director John Ford. In exchange for saying this unscripted bit of text, O'Hara insisted that the exact line never be disclosed by any involved parties. In her memoirs she says that she refused to say the line at first as she "couldn't possibly say that to Duke", but Ford insisted, claiming he needed a genuine shock reaction from Wayne. The line remains a mystery to this day.

When Sean and Mary Kate take their wagon into town a store called "Emily O'Connor" can be seen in the background. This is actually a crafts store and is still in business to this day.

This was a significant departure for Republic Pictures, which specialized in low-budget westerns, comedies and war pictures. It was the company's first and only film to receive an Academy Award nomination for Best Picture.

According to the production notes on the DVD. John Ford first acquired the rights to Maurice Walsh's short story, The Quiet Man, in 1936, but it would be another sixteen years before his dream of adapting the story to film would become a reality.

This is one of the few Hollywood films in which you can hear Gaelic, the national language of Ireland.

The last line of the wedding toast was censored by Republic Pictures. It should have said, "May their days be long and full of happiness. May their children be many and full of health. And may they live in peace and national freedom". After the film was completed, Republic Pictures decided "national freedom" in Ireland was too controversial a concept.
Link this trivia
Green, the national color of Ireland, can be seen somewhere in every shot in this film, but not on any of the actors' costumes except for Maureen O'Hara green floral dress in the cemetery scene.

Whenever John Wayne lights up a cigarette, he takes exactly two puffs before pitching it away.

Film editor Jack Murray wept when he began editing the film. He said that John Ford was such a master of his craft that the film required nothing from him as an editor other than sticking the bits of film together. He said Ford had cut the film in the camera - not a frame was wasted or needed to be removed.

On the DVD commentary Maureen O'Hara dispels many myths about the film including one about a lack of accommodations for the crew in Ireland. According to O'Hara, the production spent six weeks shooting the exteriors in Ireland and filmed the interiors on sound stages in L.A.

According to an interview in the Los Angeles Times on October 28, 2000, Maureen O'Hara recounted that she, John Ford and John Wayne made a handshake agreement in 1944 to do the film. When Ford pitched the idea to Hollywood producers, he was told that it was a "silly Irish story that won't make a penny." Wayne had a contract with Republic Pictures and approached studio chief Herbert J. Yates ("...a step down for John Ford", he said). He was told by Yates that the script was a silly Irish tale that would make no money. However, Yates would relent if Wayne, Ford and O'Hara together would make a western for Republic, a sure money-maker that would pay for the losses Republic expected to incur on this film. The picture made as a result of the agreement was Rio Grande (1950).

During the scene where John Wayne first kisses Maureen O'Hara, she slaps his face. When he blocked the blow, she broke a bone in her hand. Since the movie was being filmed in sequential order, she couldn't wear a cast to fix the broken bone.

The station used in the opening sequence and during the scene where John Wayne slams the train doors looking for Maureen O'Hara later in the film is Ballyglunin Station, south of the town of Tuam, County Galway. It looks the same today as it did in 1951, when the film was shot with the only major difference being the bridge which crosses the railway tracks is now gone. This bridge was moved to Ballinasloe station, East Galway where it still stands today, after Ballyglunin closed down as a main line.

John Wayne and John Ford decided to play a trick on Maureen O'Hara during filming. They chose the sequence where Wayne drags O'Hara across the town and through the fields. Before shooting the scene, Wayne and Ford kicked all of the sheep dung they could find onto the hill where O'Hara was to be dragged, face-down, on her stomach. O'Hara saw them doing it; with the help of several friends, she kicked it off, only to have Wayne and Ford kick it back on. O'Hara and her friends kicked it off again, and Wayne and Ford kicked it back. This went on and on until right before the scene was shot, when Wayne and Ford got in the last kick. According to O'Hara, "Duke had the time of his life dragging me through it. It was bloody awful. After the scene was over, Mr. Ford had given instructions that I was not to be brought a bucket of water or a towel. He made me keep it on for the rest of the day. I was mad as hell, but I had to laugh too. Isn't showbiz glamorous?"

Maureen O'Hara did her own singing.

Charles B. Fitzsimons (Hugh Forbes) and James O'Hara (Father Paul) were the real life younger brothers of Maureen O'Hara (Mary Kate Danaher).

Although made in 1951, is was Republic's first production to be shot outside the United States.

The white haired frail Dan Tobin, who gets up from his death bed and runs to see the fight is John Ford's older brother, Francis Ford. Francis was a silent film actor and director in his own right, who died one year after the film was made.

Cohan's Pub in this film was actually a grocery store in Cong, County Mayo. It later became a souvenir shop, and was recently turned into a real Irish pub. It was officially opened on 17 September 2008 by Tara MacGowran, daughter of Jack MacGowran, who played Ignatius Feeney in the movie.

While all other saddled horses are seen with English saddles (as would be expected in Ireland during that time period), Sean's (John Wayne's) horse is saddled with a US Army-issue McClellan cavalry saddle.

From the opening credits "John Ford and Merian C. Cooper's Argosy Production," both were given producer credits. They are not otherwise mentioned as producers.

James O'Hara's first film.

The movie's fans who visit Cong to see the sites where the movie were filmed are called "Quiet Man Crazies".

The original White o' Morn cottage from the film is in a sheep field along a road that cuts from Maam Cross to the southern pass of N59. There you can see the bridge where Michaleen parts ways with Sean Thornton before Sean heads into the cottage for the first time and the the remainder of the cottage itself. Unfortunately, little is left of the original cottage, having been carried away stone by stone by "Quiet Man" fans. There is a replica of the cottage around the block from Pat Cohan's in Cong.

Second of five movies that paired John Wayne and Maureen O'Hara.

Film debut of Sean McClory.

Goofs
* Continuity: When Mary Kate and Sean drive to town in the buggy, the horn is on the left hand side of the bulkhead. When Mary Kate interrupts the father fly fishing after storming off, it has moved to the right side.

* Continuity: When Sean Thornton first introduces himself to the bar and they start to sing "Wild Colonial Boy", the accordion player acquires a hat between shots.

* Continuity: After church, when Sean dips his hand in the holy water and says "good morning" to Mary Kate, her hair is alternately tucked in/hanging out between shots.

* Audio/visual unsynchronized: When they are singing "Wild Colonial Boy" for the second time (after Will and Feeney leave), their mouths are moving slower than the song that they're supposed to be singing.

* Continuity: When Michaleen Flyn first asks if Mary Kate is willing to marry, the glass and the bottle switch position between shots.

* Audio/visual unsynchronized: During the fight, the last time Sean gets the bucket of water thrown on him, we hear him say, "Thanks," but his lips never move.

* Continuity: Towards the end of the movie when all the town folk are along the road waving at the car passing by, the car twice passes by the "IRA" member. He can be seen standing on the side of the road in his bright blue shirt.

* Errors in geography: At the horse race there is a sign that says "Inishfree race meet". In Ireland they are called race meetings not meets.

* Continuity: John Wayne's wedding ring is clearly visible before he even meets Mary Kate Danniher. It is most clearly seen while he is remembering his mother's words before introducing himself to Michaleen.

* Continuity: When Thornton and Danaher are at the Widow Tillane's bidding for the cottage, Danaher's highest bid is 710. But in the bar, the accordion player says he heard that Danaher bid up to 810 and nobody corrected him. It is possible that the bidding was longer when originally shot, and edited down, but they forgot to change the scene in the bar.

* Continuity: During the matchmaking scene indoors, rain is visible through the window behind Mary Kate. When the shot switches to Michaleen Oge Flynn, no rain is falling outside the window behind him.

* Continuity: When Mary Kate finishes playing the spinet in Sean's house, she is seated with the music book opened. When she gets up from the bench the music book is closed.

* Continuity: When Sean finds Mary Kate cleaning his cottage, you can see in the background that the bedroom door has been splintered with a large hole where the bolt would be. The door isn't splintered until later in the story, though, after Sean and Kate are married and he kicks the intact bedroom door down.

* Anachronisms: During the station scenes, the locomotive and carriages have the 'Flying Snail' logo of the Coras Iompair Eireann railway company. This logo wasn't introduced until 1944.

* Factual errors: In the race meeting scene, two pipers are shown playing. The pipes they are playing are Scottish pipes characterized by having one bass and two tenor drones in addition to the chanter, traditional Irish pipes only have one bass and one tenor drone plus the chanter.

* Errors made by characters (possibly deliberate errors by the filmmakers): Michaeleen introduces Sean to Mary Kate as from Pittsburgh, Massachusetts, USA. However, "Steel", "pig-iron furnaces", and "slag heaps" are more generally associated with Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, USA. (Note: this is an obvious comedic device, showing that Michaeleen is not familiar with US geography.)

* Audio/visual unsynchronized: When Sean hops back in the horse cart and says, "Hey! Is that real? She couldn't be!", the sound is also out of sync.

* Incorrectly regarded as goofs: After Sean and Red's first confrontation in the pub, the publican is pulling a round of drinks for everyone, it can be seen that he is taking full pints from a line and pretending to fill them. In Ireland it is customary to have a row of drinks, such as Guniness, ready to be topped up as it is best served once it has settled.

* Errors made by characters (possibly deliberate errors by the filmmakers): When Mary Kate interrupts the father fly fishing after storming off, the father says that he has been fishing for a particular wily salmon for ten years. Salmon almost always expire after returning to fresh water to spawn (at an age of four years or so) and a keen fisherman would know this.

* Revealing mistakes: When Sean and Mary Kate get caught in the storm, right after a loud clap of thunder, Mary Kate mouths several words, but there is no dialog.

Memorable Quotes (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0045061/quotes)

Filming Locations
Ashford Castle, County Mayo, Ireland
Ballyglunin, Tuam, County Galway, Ireland
(Castletown Railway Station)
Clifden, Galway City, County Galway, Ireland
(Castletown)
Cong, County Mayo, Ireland
Connemara, County Galway, Ireland
(Lots of rural scenes)
Lettergesh Beach, Connemara, County Galway, Ireland
(Horse racing scenes)
Maam, Galway City, County Galway, Ireland
(White O'Morn cottage)
Oughterard, County Galway, Ireland
Thoor Ballylee, County Galway, Ireland
(Mary Kate runs across the river)

Watch The Trailer:-

LtOaAVFoD_M
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Hello All,

I have recieved many e-mails and been looking at comments about that famous spanking scene, that I finally had a chance to see my version of The Quiet Man on DVD. I happen to watch it the very same time yesterday morning when it was shown on AMC.

First of all, my version is much better quality than what was shown on AMC. The colors were richer, and the quality of sound superb.

Anyway, back to the movie. I saw the whole movie on DVD. My machine is a home unit, so I don't have the ditigal reads or active militime unit to read everything. I do have a function on the unit that lets me move one frame at a time manually (although no sound feedback). So I watched the movie in real time, and then went back to listen to it. The music was playing in the commotion, and I had to listen to it several times, and I didn't find any sudden break in the music.

The Movie:
The woman handed Duke a stick to "beat the lovely lady," and Duke carried it. Then the scene broke to the pub back in the villiage where you heard the gun shot twice. The patrains ran out the pub including the bar tender, and as he went out the door, he closed it, and put a sign that read, 'gone to tea.' The scene went to where the villiage people (not the disco musical group), and Duke was still holding the stick. They went through the group of people and Duke threw the stick away. That is what is in my version of the movie.

Here are the facts
As I continued to research this contorversy. I have in the Author's note from The Official John Wayne Reference Book by Charles John Kieskalt that "Republic Pictures Boss Herbert Yates told Director John Ford he wanted the film to last two hours. Ford's FINAL running time was 129 minutes. Yates wanted nine minutes cut. During a screening for Republic distributors, Yates noticed the film hadn't been recut. Ford said nine minutes were gone. During the film's climax, the screen went white. Ford couldn't decide what to edit, so he cut the ending. Yates went with Ford's 129 minutes print."

Let me say, that if you carry a stick and "beat the lovely lady," why would you continue to carry that stick. If I hit someone, I would get rid of that stick, and not carry it. I would certainly not get rid of it later after using it. Also earlier in the movie, where Duke comes home to the cottage after seeing the preacher, and O'Hara is in front of the fire place, she hands Duke a stick to get beat, but Duke throws it in the fire place. Just don't make any sense that there would be a spanking scene. But here is some more evidence, that shows that it was not in the movie.

I've read in Ford's book nothing mentioning a scene where Duke beat, whipped, spanked, or anything with O'Hara. I've looked in John Wayne's bio, and found nothing. I've looked in O'Hara's info and couldn't find anything. And here is the my evidence. The reference book I have was purchased years before the DVD came out. The total running time on my DVD is 129 minutes.

I don't ever remember seeing that scene that all of you keep telling the board. I wonder if you might be getting it mixed up with McLintock! where O'Hara is getting spanked by Duke.

The only other explanation I can give you is that you might have gotton a Director's Cut of The Quiet Man, but I doubt it since Ford died back in the 60's, and they usually didn't do that back then to make a director's cut, but knowing Ford and his ways, he might have done it.

I believe that you are mistaken about the spanking scene. But I am sure that I will get an ear full of your explanations.

This is what I have found.

Cheers, Hondo B)

Hey Hondo
when this was discussed here I figured the kick in the butt or other rude manners were talked about. There IS no scene in which JW uses the stick on her after he receives it from the older woman. He kicks her, he drags her, he throws her to the ground - s'all. I happen to have the original 35mm print nobody could have laid a hand on in the meantime, it's uncut. The stick is just one of those rich details with which Ford flavored his films - so the SYMBOL of the stick keeps coming back, until the final scene where Mary Kate throws it away.

Hello :rolleyes:

I am very pleased with my DVD on "The Quiet Man" :D

It gives three different ways to veiw the movie :huh: The third and last is narrated by Maureen O'Hara <_<

I have never seen it in the 35mm :huh: So I'll have to take your word on the scenes that you mention itdo :unsure:

Monique ;)

yes itdo you are right he does kick her butt, and when he drags he it is because she looses her shoe and one of the men from the train station gives it back to her and he throws her to the ground when he is confronting her brother about her "fortune" and there is no hitting with the stick.

cheers smokey

Very good itdo,

I was wondering if anyone would get that part. And I have to say that the spanking scene is just a part of someone's imagination.

It's good to get the feeling that you have the complete movie uncut and unedited.

Cheers, Hondo B)

:rolleyes:
Outstanding :rolleyes: So I do have the complete version :rolleyes:

Monique ;)

Monique,

If your total time is 129 minutes, you have the complete version of The Quiet Man. Glad you have it too. :)

Hondo B)

After watching The Quiet Man the other night, I noticed that the cottage, during some scenes, appeared not to be painted white, while in others it was. I suspect that the unpainted one was perhaps in a studio sound stage, as it appeared to be more manicured around the exterior.

Anybody know anything about this?

Also, I received a DHC newsletter in the mail today, and someone in there mentioned that the property in Ireland with the original White O' Morn cottage is currently owned by a Canadian, who has no interest in selling, or restoring the cottage.

Anybody have any more information in this area as well?

BTW, our video has a listed running time of 129 minutes also (no spanking, but plenty of "patty fingers" :rolleyes: ).

Chester

I think it was Robbie who pointed out in an earlier post that the original location of the Thornton home is all in rubbles. However, next to the ruins the little stone bridge that leads to the place is still standing! Tourists can get Quiet-Man-maps of the area in Cong, and so it's not hard to find (yes, part of the scenes where done on the Republic-soundstage).

One little story I'd like to share about this place with you because I have a vivid memory of the day I've been there:
We were just about finished staring at the place and taking pictures when another couple arrived: I didn't recognize him right away, but luckily they asked us to take THEIR picture on the bridge so I could get a closer look at him: it was Dennis Farina, the well-known character actor - one of the guys it's hard to remember his name but the face is so familiar. He was in Ireland to work for Spielberg's Saving Private Ryan at the time (he's the one who gives Tom Hanks the new assignment just after the invasion-sequence - the tall, earnest, grey-haired guy). Turns out he is a huge John Ford fan and visited the locations just like any other fan, and he didn't mind at all having his picture taken as well. Nice guy!

Good story itdo.

Robbie was telling me on the chat line last week or so that the bridge is intact, and about the only thing left from the movie. The cottage is in a rubble.

He has a huge source of information about The Quiet Man, that I found very interesting. Love to have him as the tour guide when I go to Ireland.

Cheers, Hondo B)

Hey Hondo!

I understand what you are saying in that JW nevers spanks O'Hara in TQM. I think that most people are mixing up the spanking scene in McLintock with The Quiet Man. They could also be mixing up the scene in Donavon's Reef where JW spanks Elizabeth Allen (who plays Ameilia Sarah Dedham) at the end of the movie. Either that or the scene in The Quiet Man where he spats her bottom at the end of the movie.

Ahh, the things we think we see in movies, swear that they are there, and when they aren't we blame the goverment for a conspiracy! <_<

I can appreciate everyone's desire to believe they have an "uncut" version of "The Quiet Man", but such is not the case. I would love to see the original 35mm film version again. However, while I agree that there is no government conspiracy involved, there is no doubt in my mind that the spanking scene WAS cut from all versions of this movie, at least those released after, say, approximately 1970.

The music flow alone makes it obvious that a fairly non-professional cut was performed, just after the lady hands JW the stick. Besides, I remember the scene from when I was a kid watching the film back in the 1960's... after accepting the stick, JW sits on a circular "Irish-typical" stone wall, similar to a well, drags Mary Kate over his knee, and gives her a few swats, while the following throng cheers him on. That's what the lady offered JW the stick for.

I know little about 35mm film collecting, and even less about projecting a 35mm film a collector may still have. I don't even know if any original theater films still exist. However, I would pay money to watch an original version, and would pay more money to obtain a truly uncut version of this movie.

It would be interesting to query Maureen O'Hara about this.. there must be a website about her, and I think I'll spend a few minutes browsing.

Does anyone know of an email address that can be used to contact Maureen O'hara because this is something that I want to find out. However I am not going to get over-excited at this moment in time as inaccurate information was given before regarding "The Greatest Story Ever Told" but I read a few reviews of on "The Quiet Man" in IMDB and one person mentioned Duke hitting Maureen and it wasnt put in the context of a simple kick on the behind. So I am currently passively interested.

B)

Gary747,

This movie never did show a scene where Duke spanked O'Hara. I'm sorry, but you're mistaken about it. I have someone personally contacted me, and told me that he or she contacted O'Hara and she herself said that it was "rubbish," it never did happen. I know that I have not confirmed that yet, but will hopefully be able to contact her, and talk to her about that and other things very soon. He/She went to her website, and e-mailed, and recieved a response from her to that affect.

Cheers, Hondo B)

Talking about the Quiet Man got my appetite up to read again Frank Nugents wonderful Screenplay. It's obvious that Ford added a lot right on the spot - such as our little piece of business with the stick - that line delivered by the old woman when giving the stick to Wayne who says "Thanks" isn't in the script.

To make businessman Herbert Yates happy Ford had to cut away to keep the film under 120 min running time. We know about that little scene in the beginning, when Fitzgerald brings Wayne into town and happens to come across the padre. There's a bit of dialogue there which Ford had to cut out. Here it is:

LONERGAN (change of mood)
Good... Sean, if I would have a word with Michaeleen... It is in reference...

The poor man stops, realizing he has come close to putting a lie on his soul.

SEAN
Sure thing, Father...

Sean hops down.

LONERGAN: (still a bit conscience-stricken)
It will not take a minute... It is only a matter of... of...

He bogs down again.

MICHAELEEN (rescuing him)
Sean understands, Father... Sure in America it's always business before the pleasure.

SEAN (starting away)
Take your time... I'll be down the line.

Lonergan looks after him gratefully, then comes closer to Michaeleen.

LONDERGAN
How do I stand in your books, Michaeleen?

Michaeleen pulls out a tattered pocket ledger.

MICHAELEEN:
Let me see now... Here it is... three pounds, eight shillings and six pence... less the two shillings ye lost on Mad Hatter Friday last.

LONERGAN
Devil take him for going wide on the far turn.

He blesses himself by way of apology.

MICHAELEEN:
Which leaves three pounds, six-and-six.

LONERGAN: (almost wringing his hands)
And poor Dermot Fahy making the stations six nights a week, praying for a new fiddle!... Ah, he's a faithful lad.

MICHAELEEN
He is that.

LONERGAN: (needing all the assurance he can get)
And he has been doing his part...? putting his shillings aside... not scattering them at the pub.

MICHAELEEN (stoutly)
Devil a scatter... ah, maybe a pint now and again...

Lonergan holds up his hand. He doesn't want to weaken.

LONERGAN
Then half a crown on Ard-Ri in the steeplechase today.

MICHAELEEN (impressed)
Half a crown!

LONERGAN (jaw firm, eyes aloft)
Make it a crown... now I had best go say my beads.

And he stomps off while Michaeleen, with doleful face -- for he has misgivings about Ard-Ri -- enters the item in his ledger.

Here the script would make transition to Sean again, seeing Mary Kate for the first time. Now that little dialogue scene was vintage Ford - would have loved to have seen that.

By the way, the original book by Maurice Walsh, "The Green Rushes", a collection of his stories with the "Quiet Man" in it, is really a treat as well and one can imagine why this story became Ford's pet project and obsession for so many years.

Roland,

In the DVD version, there is a documentary from Leonard Maltin about the movie, and talks about that scene (the first meeting Michaeleen, & the padre) in the movie of being cut on Ford's editing floor. I didn't know about the lines, but knew the subject. I thought that was appropriate to cut, it didn't do anything for the movie, and later we learn that the padre is a betting man anyway.

Thanks for the info on the book. I want to get that book for my collection.

BTW, itdo you're breaking me. If you keep telling me books and documentary vidoes, I will never have any money to pay my bills. lol!

Cheers, Hondo B)

Roland

Thanks for taking the time to input that little piece of dialogue. However I feel it was a good decision to cut this scene as the way it is on the movie now is perfect although it would make a nice extra. Of course however if I seen the scene I may be tempted to want it put into the film if it is really good. But in my opinion "The Quiet Man" is one of those rare magical movies that should not be touched.

B)

itdo :rolleyes:
Thank you for adding in the information :P I have to agree with Robbie and Hondo that I agree with the directors cut B) Which also makes me look a little different at some of the postings on here :unsure: I myself have stated on more than one post on here that I would love to have the cut or unseen footage to alot of John Wayne movies :huh: Well I guess sometimes we are better off not seeing what has been cut :o As a John Wayne fan I guess I would like to find some great lost footage :D It must be because we know how many movies he has made and we have our limits now set <_<
It's not like being a fan of Samuel L. Jackson or someother living actor that has one, two, or three new movies each year :lol:

Monique ;)

Say, do any of you ever watch the "Deleted Scenes" feature on some of the DVDs nowadays? I always watch them, and I have never observed a scene that I think should have been in the movie. IMHO, the call has always been right to leave those deleted scenes just that - deleted.

That said, I would enjoying seeing the movie as the director released it, but I would appreciate having the ability to see the deleted scenes afterwards.

And then there are the outtakes :lol: !

Chester

Chester most deleted scenes are cut out becasue they are awful this is true of modern movies but in Dukes case they were cut out becuase of the films running time. The sixth sense has some great scenes that were eventually deleted much to the dismay of the director. Roland has been a great help informing us of what has been deleted from Duke movies which is a good start so that we know what to look for. The next big problem is where to look anyone got any suggestions? :(

B)

Gary

It sounds like you may be confused with Mcclintock but we will see what Hondo uncovers from his feedback from Maureen O'hara it would be very interesting if it was true but i don't think it is.

B)

Hi

I spotted this web site while surfing the net and its seeking to find the greatest ever movie made in Ireland so you know which one to vote for.

On this link here you can talk about why you like the movie.

http://www.sluggerotoole.com/archives/2005...php#readcomment (http://www.sluggerotoole.com/archives/2005/06/what_is_the_bes.php#readcomment)

And on this link here you can vote for your favourite Irish movie.

http://www.jameson.ie/competition/

So get voting and keep Dukes memory alive on this most fitting of dates.

:agent:

Thanks Robbie, for the notice... I voted.

- ncb

Cool...voting was easy and fast...chaulk up another one for Quiet Man

Alright Robbie; I must be getting to old for this kind of thing, but I would like to Vote for "The Quiet man" now How do I do it? I never been to Ireland yet, but I am Coming soon.

Bill :cowboy:

My Vote is in....


Baby Sis


:cowboy: :cowboy: :cowboy:

Hi Bill

Hit the second link on my original post and you should be brought up the relevant page.

Where it states choose movie hit the little side arrow and it will bring up a long list simply scroll down that list and hit the quiet man, then just fill in the other details on the page and hit the submit entry at the bottom of the page.

The first link I supplied is a messageboard where people talk about their favourite Irish movie.

:agent:

Thanks Robbie,

By chance are you Roger? The types of post from Roger sounds a lot like you and you defend TQM well. I put in my vote.

Cheers B)

Originally posted by Hondo Duke Lane@Jun 12 2005, 02:11 PM
Thanks Robbie,

By chance are you Roger?* The types of post from Roger sounds a lot like you and you defend TQM well.* I put in my vote.

Cheers* B)
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Lol nothing gets by you Mike.

I didn't fancy using my real name on what appears to be an angry and volatile messageboard, I think Davros simply disliked the movie for political reasons which I found disappointing.

:agent:

robbie,
count me in as well!

Chalk another one for the Quiet Man. I wish there was a place you can check the poll results.

ET

Robbie,

Maybe you can enlighten us on something. It seems that your countrymen are not high on The Quiet Man. The question I have is Why are they not high on this movie? Is it due to John Wayne or John Ford? Maybe it's the story line that has stereotyped Ireland or is it something else?

I'm curious about this because I am not there and would like to understand or maybe it's the opinion of a few in your country?

Love to hear your comments.

Cheers B)

I added my vote as well.

And as Hondo stated above, I too am curious as to the "dislike" of The Quiet Man.

Robbie.

I've just voted. There are some terrible movies on that list.

Emmanuel.

hi robbie

put in my vote for you hope it wins

cheers smokey

One more Vote for "Quiet Man."

Chilibill

The Quiet Man has my vote -
Cheers - Jay :D

Hey, Robbie what would you say if I told you "Darby O'Gill and The Little People" is my favorite "Irish" movie? :lol: :lol: :lol:

Hi Stumpy

How about Rooney that was a good film.

Regards

Arthur

Originally posted by arthurarnell@Jun 14 2005, 12:32 PM
Hi Stumpy

How about Rooney that was a good film.

Regards

Arthur
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I've never seen it, Arthur. I'll have to see if I can locate it.

That was easy The quiet Man all the way

Well, it's a few days later, but we finally got over to that web site and cast our vote as well. Although Darby O'Gill and the Little People was a close second :D .

Robbie, you have a very distinct style - I would have pegged you as Roger even if Hondo hadn't said something :rolleyes: .

I agree with you, Davros definitely has a problem.

Chester :newyear:

Originally posted by chester7777@Jun 14 2005, 11:16 PM
Well, it's a few days later, but we finally got over to that web site and cast our vote as well.* Although Darby O'Gill and the Little People was a close second :D .

Actually, I was just rattlin' his chain, Chet. "Quiet Man" is also my favorite, followed by "Darby".

Darby is a good Disney movie. I haven't heard from Robbie, but what is the general attitude of your country's people of John Wayne?

Cheers B)

Hi all

I have been away for a couple of days so my apologies for my slow reponse.

Stumpy if you told me that movie was your favourite I would have to start a new topic asking for the removal of Stumpys membership. :D

Mike

That is a good question which you asked and the answer is not a nice as it should be. Obviously many of you will be aware that in NI there is a divide between Protestants and Catholics. The Quiet man would be regarded as a Catholic movie but there are many protestants in NI who love it. The problem many protestants would have is a genuine a significant amount of the money made from the sales of the movies went straight to the IRA which John Ford sympathised. I think this turned a lot of people off the movie and generally made them hate it.

There are of course SOME people who may have taken offence to the beer swilling Irishmen and that messageboard provided via the link would be very Politically correct so that is why there are some negative responses.

Mike everybody without exception whom I have ever spoken to know of John Wayne and about 75% of those people would greatly enjoy his movies so I don't think there is a problem with John Wayne in NI, I would even go so far as to say he may be the most popular actor among people in NI.

Chester I am interested to know what my familiar style is, I noticed on the board there were a few people called Roger so by calling myself Roger on this thread would have blended me in better.

I hope this post helps you all understand TQM from an NI perspective.
:agent:

Hi all.

I deliberately held back to allow Robbie the opportunity to voice his opinions on THE QUIET MAN, and John Wayne in Ireland. I had hoped he would have given you an insight into the way that, many, many people on this island feel about the one man, who above all others, has shown that Ireland and it's people enjoy life, friends, and family. ( even if they do owe you money ). To say Duke is a icon, is to underestimate the man's influence upon not only one, but at least three generations of the Irish.

The man has given the tourist industry a life of it's own. People from all over the world travel to Ireland, North and South, ( although they see Ireland as a whole ) They come to enjoy the music, the craic, (fun) not the drugs, have a black beer or ten. Get themselves a Arran sweater. ( White heavy knitted ) They also enjoy the way the Irish have of welcoming visitors.

Were do you think most of these people get their first look at Ireland?

Come on you all know the answer.

THE QUIET MAN.

All of this is not lost on the Irish. over the intervening years,we have taken Duke to our hearts. All of his movies command whole sections in the video stores. Every time a (new) one goes on release, it flies of the shelf.

As for THE QUIET MAN being a Catholic movie.
I'm lost on that one.

Who in the movie is the one person who knows Sean Thornton's secret? :huh:
The Reverend Mister Playfair, who just happens to be protestant. :o
Wasn't the Catholic Priest and the Protestant Minister involved in getting Sean and Mary-Kate together? ;)
Didn't they both attend the wedding? :P
When the Bishop was leaving town, didn't All the people cheer like Protestants? :lol:

As for John Ford giving money to the IRA
( I have never heard that one before )
Didn't he have enough trouble getting the money that Herbert Yates owed to he and Merian C Cooper's company, Argosy Productions. Never mind giving to a organisation, that in the early 50's was a spend force.

As in America, where some people dislike Duke, so it is on the whole island of Ireland.
But as the man says
"Sure as long as we like him, so what."

Emmanuel. :jump:

Thanks for that insight Robbie and emmanuel.

I guess as an American the only thing in our history to compare to the North Ireland divide would be the US Civil war. And even that was small in comparison to the ongoing conflict there. It also would probably be much easier for outsiders to understand the whole thing if we actually lived there. Again thanks to both of you for sharing your thoughts.

Hi

The question of Ireland v Catholic v Protestant Ireland v England is a deep seated one and goes back to the days of Elizabeth I, Henry VIII and William 1 who all had their problems with Ireland. The expression Beyond the Pale refers to an area of land around Dublin known as The Pale beyond which in the early days it was not safe to travel.

The film Captain Boycott refers to the troubled times in the nineteenth century and gives the expression to Boycott something.

John Ford visited Ireland in the 1920s when 'The Troubles' were just beginning he had a bad time of it from the Black and Tans and was virtually deported from Ireland. With this experience behind him and his handy to have Irish heritage it is not surprising that he developed a deep distrust and dislike of the English.

In my job during the 60s and 70s if I had expressed a wish to visit Ireland, I would have had to visit security and be told what I could or could not do while there and be debriefed on return. Even as late as two years ago on a visit to Belfast I had to be in and out in two days.

When it came however to making The Quiet Man Ford took no chances, his actors were all from The Abbey Theatre Dublin, his main actress was Irish with John Wayne, Francis Ford, Mildred Natwick, Ken Curtis and Ward Bond the only non Irish principles.
But back stage Ford took no chances he wanted a mighty film and to do so he used British film crews, although he couldn't resist taking the mike when they complained that the Irish brouge was awkward to record, Ford looked at his shoes and said these are brogues.

I think (even from an English viewpoint) that Ford achieved what he set out to do. I for one, as I have said before would have loved to have seen a directors cut if one existed. The film has been described as an IRA Saturday nights viewing, but I think this is harsh. The film was sanitised from the original short story to show the charm and take the harshness of the times out of the film, the references to treason and the IRA are used in throw away lines or humerous.

But when it comes down to Ford's Irishness, he was born in America of first or second generation Irish. He used the Irish nationality as flag of convenieance, he couldn't speak a word of the language and if Maureen O'Hara had not been content to play along with the gag, he would have been exposed as the fraud he was.

If this sounds that I am anti Irish I am not, an acquaintaince visited Cong three years ago. He said it was a brilliant experience, I still treasure the autographed photograph of one of the villagers who had appeared in the picture. I think Ireland is a beautiful country and one day I hope to visit it for a longer stay and yes The Quiet Man is still my favourite John Wayne Picture.

Regards

Arthur

Hi again

And yes I have just voted for the Quiet Man.

Regards

Arthur

I voted for the Quiet Man of course!!!!!!!!!! :cowboy: :uhuh2: :jump: :fear2: :uhuh: :headbonk: :headbonk:

I guess that answered my question about John Wayne and Ireland. I know that the people who hate Wayne are few and far between, and seem to get the mic when it comes to the voices. But the majority out there are for Duke and his movies are still playing today more than ever.

Cheers B)

Originally posted by Emmanuel@Jun 17 2005, 10:46 PM
Hi all.

I deliberately held back to allow Robbie the opportunity to voice his opinions on THE QUIET MAN, and John Wayne in Ireland. I had hoped he would have given you an insight into the way that, many, many people on this island feel about the one man, who above all others, has shown that Ireland and it's people enjoy life, friends, and family. ( even if they do owe you money ). To say Duke is a icon, is to underestimate the man's influence upon not only one, but at least three generations of the Irish.

The man has given the tourist industry a life of it's own. People from all over the world travel to Ireland, North and South, ( although they see Ireland as a whole ) They come to enjoy the music, the craic, (fun) not the drugs, have a black beer or ten. Get themselves a Arran sweater. ( White heavy knitted ) They also enjoy the way the Irish have of welcoming visitors.

Were do you think most of these people get their first look at Ireland?

* * * * * * * * * * * * * Come on you all know the answer.

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * THE QUIET MAN.

All of this is not lost on the Irish. over the intervening years,we have taken Duke to our hearts. All of his movies command whole sections in the video stores. Every time a (new) one goes on release, it flies of the shelf.

As for THE QUIET MAN being a Catholic movie.
I'm lost on that one.

Who in the movie is the one person who knows Sean Thornton's secret? :huh:
The Reverend Mister Playfair, who just happens to be protestant. :o
Wasn't the Catholic Priest and the Protestant Minister involved in getting Sean and Mary-Kate together? ;)
Didn't they both attend the wedding? :P
When the Bishop was leaving town, didn't All the people cheer like Protestants? :lol:

As for John Ford giving money to the IRA
( I have never heard that one before )
Didn't he have enough trouble getting the money that Herbert Yates owed to he and Merian C Cooper's company, Argosy Productions. Never mind giving to a organisation, that in the early 50's was a spend force.

As in America, where some people dislike Duke, so it is on the whole island of Ireland.
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * But as the man says
* * * * * * * "Sure as long as we like him, so what."

Emmanuel. :jump:
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I don't quite agree with your post Emmanuel

In essence the Quiet Man is a catholic movie, its set in the Republic of Ireland, all characters are catholic except the bishop and the Playfairs, it centres around Irish themes and the IRA are in existance and made out to be quite likeable. Some protestants find it a little hard to see that by the end of the movie all protestants have left the village leaving it now exclusively catholic, TQM as a movie is however not anti protestant.

I have also read via many sources how money made from the Quiet man financed the IRA, I think one source may have been the JW film society based in England.

:agent:

Originally posted by Robbie@Jul 3 2005, 01:29 PM
Some protestants find it a little hard to see that by the end of the movie all protestants have left the village leaving it now exclusively catholic . . .
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Robbie,

Just curious, why do you think that all the protestants have left the village? It seems to me that what was happening was that the visiting Bishop was leaving, with a grand send-off by everyone (albeit many Catholics, pretending to be protestants). That's how I saw it, anyway.

Mrs. C :angel1:

Originally posted by chester7777@Jul 4 2005, 06:35 PM
Robbie,

Just curious, why do you think that all the protestants have left the village?* It seems to me that what was happening was that the visiting Bishop was leaving, with a grand send-off by everyone (albeit many Catholics, pretending to be protestants).* That's how I saw it, anyway.

Mrs. C :angel1:
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Mr Playfair and his wife left the village along with the Bishop and they were the only visible protestants portrayed in the movie, the cheers were for the Playfairs not the bishop.

:agent:

Robbie,

I'd have to watch it again (and it's too late tonight to do that), but my understanding was that the Bishop was in town to review the minister's performance. He had a small church, so everybody chipped in and pretended to be protestants, to give the impression that his congregation was bigger than it really was. I think the minister and his wife were in the car to take the Bishop back to the train station, not because they were leaving, too.

Anybody else remember this aspect of the plot?

Mrs. C :angel1:

Hi

That's how I read the end of the Quiet Man. It was convienient for the Playfairs to be in the car with the Bishop to take their bow.

Once they had seen him off at the station they would have returned to their home. As they said they had a small parish but they had one nevertheless.

As Ward Bond covering up his collar said Lets all wave like good Protestants. And in that sentence and by that action I think it was designed to give the bishop the impression that the Playfairs had a large congregation and would remain in the village.

The film was not that deep to allow religious issues to surface, real or imagined.


Regards

Arthur

I have just opened my e mail and there is a message from the Dubliner offering free tickets to watch screenings of The field, In the name of the Father and The Quiet Man as part of the 100 best Irish films. Obviously the voting worked.


Regards

Arthur

hi all

i too like arthur recieved one of those emails hope that robbie got one he may want to use it if he lives near where they will be showing the movies on the big screen.

my understanding of the end of tqm was that only the bishop and mr playfair were in the car and mrs playfair was standing with the crowd i could be wrong but it has been quite some time since i saw it. and besides if they were leaving why didnt they have their baggs with them?

cheers smokey

To Some of you people that live in The British Isles, Maureen O'Hara said that the original story was too Political and had a lot to do with the I.R.A. what ever that means. :huh:

Maybe some of you could tell us that live in the U.S. what all this is about? Is it all about the Christian Religion, Catholics and Protestants, if so thats a Hell of a note! :angry:

I know, we had plenty of the same problems here in the U.S. in the past. But now we have some people here in the U.S. trying to do away with all Religion!!! :fear2:

Even tho I like almost all of Duke's Westerns, "The Quiet Man" would be Right at the top of the list of John Wayne Films. :D

If you would like to see what Maureen O'Hara :wub: had to say about the making of the Film in Ireland you can go to, QUIET MAN (http://www.wyntoontrip.com/QUIETMAN.html) and then just Clicking NEXT. :rolleyes:

Chilibill :cowboy:

Originally posted by chester7777@Jul 5 2005, 12:15 AM
I'd have to watch it again (and it's too late tonight to do that), but my understanding was that the Bishop was in town to review the minister's performance.* He had a small church, so everybody chipped in and pretended to be protestants, to give the impression that his congregation was bigger than it really was.* I think the minister and his wife were in the car to take the Bishop back to the train station, not because they were leaving, too.
Mrs. C :angel1:
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Hi - I'd have to say that Mrs. C is pretty close to the mark if not right on it. The minister's congregation was a small one. The priest gathered his group to bid farewell to the Bishop under the guise of Protestants, making the group seem much larger than it actually was. I never got the impression that the minister and his wife were leaving, rather that they were escorting the Bishop to the train station.
Cheers - Jay :D

I got an e-mail myself. Can't go, but it's a treat to see that they will have a viewing of The Quiet Man. I'm under the impression that it could be the number 1 movie in Ireland. Robbie, I hope you will keep us informed on that when the time comes.

As for the minister and his wife. If you recall earlier when the minister talked to Sean Thornton about his problem, and the concern from the minister, he told Thornton that he hopes he will be around, but his numbers are very low and he was in danger of closing the church's doors. So the way I see it, I believe that the town's people were there in support of the minister, and just being good Protestants.

Just my opinion.

Cheers B)

Hello All
I voted just now and it seemed to work.

Well, Can you guess which film I voted for? The Quiet Man, of course. But now I'll have to set down and watch it again. What a wonderful movie! I've read Maureen O'Hara's autobiography and she has some interesting stories about The Quiet Man. I'll always wonder what she whispered in John Wayne's ear there near the end! Well, now I'll put on my comfy Aran sweater and pop open a Guinness and relax with Duke, Maureen, Ward, and all the rest.

Slan Agus Beannacht!
Colorado Bob

Hi all,
I watched The Quiet Man again yesterday evening and enjoyed it greatly - it is one of my favorites. And after that I have read all interesting storys that you posted and storys by Maureen posted by Chilibill. And I voted too, but I think it is late. I never thought about any politics seeing this film.
Regards,
Vera

THE QUIET MAN

PRODUCED BY MERIAN C. COOPER
DIRECTED BY JOHN FORD
MUSIC BY VICTOR YOUNG
AN ARGOSY PRODUCTION
A REPUBLIC PICTURE

225

INFORMATION FROM IMDb

Plot Summary

Sean Thornton has returned from America to reclaim his homestead and escape his past.
Sean's eye is caught by Mary Kate Danaher, a beautiful but poor maiden,
and younger sister of ill-tempered "Red" Will Danaher.
The riotous relationship that forms between Sean and Mary Kate,
punctuated by Will's pugnacious attempts to keep them apart, form the main plot,
with Sean's past as the dark undercurrent.

Summary written by Steve Fenwick

Writing credits
Maurice Walsh (story Green Rushes)

Frank S. Nugent (screenplay)

Full Cast

John Wayne .... Sean Thornton
Maureen O'Hara .... Mary Kate Danaher
Barry Fitzgerald .... Michaleen Oge Flynn
Ward Bond .... Father Peter Lonergan
Victor McLaglen .... Squire 'Red' Will Danaher
Mildred Natwick .... The Widow Sarah Tillane
Francis Ford .... Dan Tobin
Eileen Crowe .... Mrs. Elizabeth Playfair
May Craig .... Fishwoman with basket at station
Arthur Shields .... Rev. Cyril 'Snuffy' Playfair
Charles B. Fitzsimons .... Hugh Forbes (as Charles FitzSimons)
James O'Hara .... Father Paul (as James Lilburn)
Sean McClory .... Owen Glynn
Jack MacGowran .... Ignatius Feeney (Squire Daniher's handyman) (as Jack McGowran)
Joseph O'Dea .... Molouney (train guard)
Eric Gorman .... Costello (engine driver)
Kevin Lawless .... Train fireman
Paddy O'Donnell .... Railway porter
Frank Baker .... Man in bar (uncredited)
Tony Canzoneri .... Boxing second (uncredited)
Maureen Coyne .... Dan Tobin's daughter (Ireland) (uncredited)
Ken Curtis .... Dermot Fahy (uncredited)
Mimi Doyle .... Dan Tobin's daughter (USA) (uncredited)
Douglas Evans .... Ring physician (uncredited)
Robert Foy .... Driver of cart across river (uncredited)
Sam Harris .... General (uncredited)
D.R.O. Hatswell .... Guppy (uncredited)
John Horan .... Man at railway station (uncredited)
David Hughes .... Police constable (uncredited)
Billy Jones .... Bugler (uncredited)
Tiny Jones .... Nell (uncredited)
Colin Kenny .... Pub extra (uncredited)
Mae Marsh .... Father Paul's mother (uncredited)
Jim McVeigh .... Man following cart across river (uncredited)
Jim Morrin .... Roof thatcher (uncredited)
Al Murphy .... Boxing referee (uncredited)
Michael O'Brian .... Musha Musha man (uncredited)
Frank O'Connor .... Ringside photographer (uncredited)
Pat O'Malley .... Man in bar (uncredited)
Web Overlander .... Hugh Bailey (stationmaster) (uncredited)
Bob Perry .... Trooper Thorn's ringside trainer (uncredited)
Jack Roper .... Tony Godello (boxer) (uncredited)
Philip Stainton .... Anglican bishop (uncredited)
Harry Tenbrook .... Police Sgt. Hanan (uncredited)
Harry Tyler .... Pat Cohan (publican) (uncredited)
Melinda Wayne .... Girl on wagon at horse race (uncredited)
Michael Wayne .... Teenage boy at races (uncredited)
Patrick Wayne .... Boy on wagon at horse race (uncredited)
Toni Wayne .... Teenage girl at races (uncredited)

Stunts

Joe Fair .... riding double: John Wayne (uncredited)
Fred Kennedy .... stunts (uncredited)
Bob Morgan .... stunts (uncredited)
Terry Wilson .... stunts (uncredited)



Filming Locations

Ashford Castle, County Mayo, Ireland

Cong, County Mayo, Ireland

Oughterard, County Galway, Ireland

Trivia

* Barry Fitzgerald and Arthur Shields are brothers.

* Only two weeks of the production was spent in Ireland
because the local hotels couldn't accommodate the American crew.

* Cohan's Pub in the movie is, in reality, a grocery store,
but when the film turned out to be very popular they never bothered to remove the facade used in the film.

* According to an interview in the "Los Angeles Times" on 28 October 2000,
Maureen O'Hara recounted that she, John Ford and John Wayne had a handshake agreement in 1944 to produce this film.
When John Ford pitched the idea to Hollywood producers, he was told that it was a "silly Irish story that won't make a penny".
Wayne had a contract with Republic Pictures and approached Republic studio chief Herbert J. Yates ("...a step down for John Ford," he says),
he was told that the script was a silly Irish tale that would make no money. However,
Yates would relent if Wayne, Ford and O'Hara together would make a western for Republic,
a sure money-maker that would pay for Republic's projected loss in producing this picture.
The picture that was made as a result of the agreement was Rio Grande (1950).

* A replica of the famous thatched cottage in the movie is located at Maam Cross
, County Galway, in the west of Ireland.

* During the scene where John Wayne first kisses 'Maureen OHara, she slaps his face.
When he blocked the blow, she broke a bone in her hand.

* When the film was first screened in Boston, Mass., Michaleen Flynn's line on seeing the broken bed,
"Impetuous! Homeric!", was censored.

* Since the movie was being filmed in sequential order,
and 'Maureen OHara broke her hand in one of the earlier scenes filmed, she couldn't have a cast to fix the broken bone.

* As of September 2003, Cohan's Pub is no longer a grocery store but strictly a souvenir shop
specializing in "Quiet Man" keepsakes. The original owner is still the proprietor and is willing to share memories of the filming of the movie.

* The famous fight scene was shot in the grounds of Ashford castle, Cong, County Mayo.
The stunt in which John Wayne punches Victor McLaglen into the river was performed by director John Ford's son,
Patrick Ford (doubling for Victor McLaglen).

* The station used in the opening sequence and during the scene where John Wayne
slams the train doors looking for 'Maureen OHara later in the film is Ballyglunin station,
south of the town of Tuam, Co. Galway. It looks the same today as it did in 1951,
when the film was shot (although released in 1952).
The only major difference is that the bridge which crosses the railway tracks is now gone.
This bridge was moved to Ballinasloe station, East Galway (where it still stands today), after Ballyglunin closed down as a main line.

* The horse racing sequence was shot at Lettergesh beach, Connemara, on the west coast of Ireland.

* At the film's conclusion, after the "Curtain Call" credits,
we see Kate and Sean standing in their garden waving good-bye. 'Maureen OHara turns to John Wayne and whispers something in his ear,
evoking a priceless reaction from Duke. What was said was known only to O'Hara, Wayne, and director John Ford.
In exchange for saying this unscripted bit of text, O'Hara insisted that the exact line never be disclosed by any involved parties.
The line remains a mystery to this day.

* When Sean and Mary Kate take their wagon into town a store called "Emily O'Connor" can be seen in the background. This is actually a crafts store and is still in business to this day.

* This was a significant departure for Republic Pictures, who were more used to producing Westerns and war movies on low budgets. It was their first and only film to receive an Academy Award nomination for Best Picture.

* John Ford first read the story in 1933 and purchased the film rights for a mere $10. It took him another 12 years to actually drum up enough financing.

* One of the few Hollywood movies in which you can hear spoken Gaelic.

* Maureen O'Hara did her own singing.

* The last line of the wedding toast was censored by Republic Pictures. It should have said "May their days be long and full of happiness. May their children be many and full of health. And may they live in peace and ....freedom". The word "national" was removed as Republic didn't wish to offend any audience members who might have been sensitive to the political upheavals then taking place in the newly independent Republic of Ireland.

* Green, the national color of Ireland, can be seen somewhere in every shot in this film, but not on any of the actors' costumes.

Goofs

* Continuity: When Mary Kate and Sean drive to town in the buggy, the horn is on the left hand side of the bulkhead.
When Mary Kate interrupts the father fly fishing after storming off, it has moved to the right side.

* Continuity: When Sean Thornton first introduces himself to the bar and they start to sing "Wild Colonial Boy",
the accordion player acquires a hat between shots.

* Continuity: After church, when Sean dips his hand in the holy water and says "good morning" to Mary Kate,
her hair is alternately tucked in/hanging out between shots.

* Audio/visual unsynchronized: When they are singing "Wild Colonial Boy" for the second time (after Will and Feeney leave),
their mouths are moving slower than the song that they're supposed to be singing.

* Continuity: When Michaleen Flyn first asks if Mary Kate is willing to marry,
the glass and the bottle switch position between shots.

* Audio/visual unsynchronized: During the fight, the last time Sean gets the bucket of water thrown on him, we hear him say,
"Thanks," but his lips never move.

* Factual errors: The pipers playing before the big horse race are playing Scottish bagpipes,
not the Irish uilleann pipes. Scottish pipes are blown into, Irish pipes are pumped up with a bellows under the right elbow.

* Continuity: Towards the end of the movie when all the town folk are along the road waving at the car passing by,
the car twice passes by the "IRA" member. He can be seen standing on the side of the road in his bright blue shirt.

* Errors in geography: At the horse race there is a sign that says "Inishfree race meet". In Ireland they are called race meetings not meets.

* Continuity: When Sean Thorton is working on his house, the ladder leaning against the roof moves back and forth between sections of the house.

* Continuity: John Wayne's wedding ring is clearly visible before he even meets Mary Kate Danniher.
It is most clearly seen while he is remembering his mother's words before introducing himself to Michaleen.

* When Sean and Mary Kate take their wagon into town a store called "Emily O'Connor"
can be seen in the background. This is actually a crafts store and is still in business to this day.

Hi,

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Well what can you say about this charming film,
that is so well loved, by the majority of fans.
It is a pleasure, to watch, from beginning to end,
and featured, all the stars and character actors we are all
so fond of.
I know this film has been discussed in various guises, many times,
but now there is chance to discuss, it in its correct forum.

Originally posted by ethanedwards@Jan 21 2006, 04:13 PM
I know this film has been discussed in various guises, many times,
but now there is chance to discuss, it in its correct forum.
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How right you are, Keith.

Here's a link to one of those previous discussions from The Trading Post (http://www.dukewayne.com/showthread.php?t=275).

And then there's this (http://www.dukewayne.com/showthread.php?t=208&view=findpost&p=3273).

Chester :newyear:

Hi Jim,
Thanks for the links,
I knew it had been discussed,
perhaps the one thread can be moved over,
if there is sunstantial discussion in it!

Here's another great link
to previous discussion,

Movie Club Discussion (http://www.dukewayne.com/showthread.php?t=1812)

Hi Thanks,
I've now merged, the other threads,and now all the discussions, fit nicely under
one sub-forum,
I hope you find this easier

Hello everybody
I am a new member from Sweden who is a big The Quiet Man Maniac who are very interested of all things about that movie including all places there they made that movie in Ireland. I saw in etandward’s Trivia for The Quiet Man, that was written they only spent two weeks in Ireland. I am sorry but that is not that true I known. They arrived Ireland June 5, and begin work the June 6. They was working further in Ireland and took the last scene 11,00 am the July14. They were going back to United States July 17. All that and much more can you read in the book “In the Footsteps of The Quiet Man” by Gerry McNee and Professor Des MacHales two books.
Len

Hej in Svensk, lenrehn,
and WELCOME
to the JWMB,
I believe, you are the very first one from Sverige,
I am sure you will meet many friends,on this board,
and I hope you enjoy it here.
Thanks for your input, for that's exactly what these discussions,
are all about, to review and exchange information.
All our knowledge is obtained, from different sources,
most is correct, some not.
However, we have to start somewhere, and it's up to ourselves,
to discuss the merits of each review.
Thanks for you post,

Tack for era posta

Hallo again
The Quiet Man is my absolute favorite movie and I have search after all fact I could find about that lovely movie. And that is very much. I have that motion picture in both Region 1 and 2 DVD versions and even an old video from 1987. All things I am doing have something with TQM to do. And that is even so that movie has taught me that little English i can to day. And that is not so much as i have desire.
Tack så mycket.
Len

Hi Len,
I have a Cinema Club VHS, which includes
THE MAKING OF THE QUIET MAN
a very interesting documentary,

Tack igen

I'm sorry but that VHS have I missing

I hope I can do some commercial for a very good American actor from North Carolina named Bryan Varnam who have make very nice paintings from The Quiet Man and i have three of them. And now is he making a painting with john Wayne riding a horse through Monument Valley. You all can watch on his website http://www.bryanvarnam.com/bryans_web_site_2_001.htm

I saw the film "The Quiet Man" the first time in the early 1950s and I do not Remember Duke Hitting Maureen with a Stick. I also have it on D.V.D. and a Very old V.H.S. Tape and I did not see that on them. :rolleyes:

Below is a story told by Maureen about the making of "The Quiet Man" and she does not talk about the Stick and I think that she would have! :lol:

MAKING OF QUIET MAN (http://www.wyntoontrip.com/QUIETMAN.html)

Chilibill :cowboy:

Keith,
You are the very first person to say anything about the horn being in two different positions. I noticed that a few years ago and have wondered why they would do something like that. I had wondered if it slid freely from one side to the other. I came across this when I was doing research for Five Miles To Castletown. Good for you Keith.
Bryan

Here's something you may not have known. the man who's always in the bright blue shirt and beret, the one who just before the big fight, when asked by McGlaglen if the IRA is in on this too and answers, "if it were, not an unscorched stone of your house wuld be still standing", is Maureen O'Haras brother. I think his name is Charles Fitzsimons, though I could be wrong.

You are right the man in blue shirt was Ms O’Hara’s brother Charles B. FitzSimons

I have some information about the railway between Tuam and Athenry who is under restoring. The railway station Ballyglunin (Castletown in the movie) is even that under restoring and all will be reopened in the ending of this year. Pat Cohan bar is under re building and will serve that first bear under this year, but there are some difficult when The Quiet Man Movie Club have talking about 2005 but one other site tells about 2006. I hope that will happen in June or July 2006.

:D

Memorable Quotes

[first lines]
Father Peter Lonergan, Narrator: Well, then. Now. I'll begin at the beginnin'. A fine soft day in the spring, it was, when the train pulled into Castletown, three hours late as usual, and himself got off. He didn't have the look of an American tourist at all about him. Not a camera on him; what was worse, not even a fishin' rod.

[last lines]
Michaleen Flynn: No patty-fingers, if you please. The proprieties at all times. Hold on to your hats.

"Red Will" Danaher: He'll regret it till his dying day, if ever he lives that long.

"Red Will" Danaher: Si' down, si' down. That's what chairs are for.

"Red Will" Danaher: Mind you, I'm fresh as a daisy!
Thornton: You look more like a black-eyed Susan to me.

Father Peter Lonergan, Narrator: Ah, yes... I knew your people, Sean. Your grandfather; he died in Australia, in a penal colony. And your father, he was a good man too.

Mary Kate Danaher: Could you use a little water in your whiskey?
Michaleen Flynn: When I drink whiskey, I drink whiskey; and when I drink water, I drink water.

Hugh Forbes: Then, a toast: May their days be long and full of happiness; may their children be many and full of health; and may they live in peace... and freedom.

Thornton: There'll be no locks or bolts between us, Mary Kate... except those in your own mercenary little heart!

Mary Kate Danaher: What manner of man is it that I have married?
Hugh Forbes: A better one, I think, than you know, Mary Kate.

Mary Kate Danaher: It's a bold one you are! Who gave you leave to be kissin' me?
Thornton: So you can talk!
Mary Kate Danaher: Yes I can, I will and I do! And it's more than talk you'll be gettin' if you step a step closer to me!
Thornton: Don't worry - you've got a wallop!
Mary Kate Danaher: You'll get over it, I'm thinkin'.
Thornton: Well, some things a man doesn't get over so easy.
Mary Kate Danaher: Like what, supposin'?
Thornton: Like the sight of a girl coming through the fields with the sun on her hair... kneeling in church with a face like a saint...
Mary Kate Danaher: Saint indeed!
Thornton: ...and now coming to a man's house to clean it for him.
Mary Kate Danaher: But... that was just my way of bein' a good Christian act.
Thornton: I know it was, Mary Kate Danaher. And it was nice of you.
Mary Kate Danaher: Not at all.

"Red Will" Danaher: So the I.R.A. is in this too, is it?
Hugh Forbes: If it were, Red Will Danaher, not a scorched stone of your fine house would still be standing.
Michaleen Flynn: A beautiful sentiment!

Michaleen Flynn: He's a nice, quiet, peace-loving man, come home to Ireland to forget his troubles. Sure, yes, yes, he's a millionare, you know, like all the Yanks. But he's eccentric - ooh, he is eccentric! Wait 'til I show ya... his bag to sleep in - a sleeping bag, he calls it! Here, let me show you how it operates.

"Red Will" Danaher: I'll count three, and if you're not out of the house by then, I'll loose the dogs on you.
Thornton: If you say "three," mister, you'll never hear the man count "ten.

Thornton: I don't get this. Why do we have to get you along? Back in the States, I'd drive up, honk the horn, the gal'd come runnin'...
Mary Kate Danaher: Come a-runnin'? I'm no woman to be honked at and come a-runnin'!
Michaleen Flynn: America - ha! Prohibition! You see that over there? That's the ancestral home of ancient Flynns. It was taken from us by... by... by the Druids!
[stops the cart]
Michaleen Flynn: Quietest couple I ever heard. We'll get nowhere at this rate. Off with ya!
[Sean tries to help Mary Kate down]
Michaleen Flynn: She's a fine healthy girl - no patty-fingers if ya please!

Mary Kate Danaher: I have a fearful temper. You might as well know about it now instead of findin' out about it later. We Danahers are a fightin' people.
Thornton: I can think of a lot of things I'd rather do to one of the Danahers - Miss Danaher.
Mary Kate Danaher: Shhh, Mr. Thornton! What will Mr. Flynn be thinkin'?

Thornton: If anybody had told me six months ago that today I'd be in a graveyard in Innisfree with a girl like you that I'm just about to kiss, I'd have told 'em...
Mary Kate Danaher: Oh, but the kisses are a long way off yet!
Thornton: Huh?
Mary Kate Danaher: Well, we just started a-courtin', and next month, we, we start the walkin' out, and the month after that there'll be the threshin' parties, and the month after that...
Thornton: Nope.
Mary Kate Danaher: Well, maybe we won't have to wait that month...
Thornton: Yup.
Mary Kate Danaher: ...or for the threshin' parties...
Thornton: Nope.
Mary Kate Danaher: ...or for the walkin' out together...
Thornton: No.
Mary Kate Danaher: ...and so much the worse for you, Sean Thornton, for I feel the same way about it myself!
[They kiss. Thunder rolls]

Thornton: [drunk] Woman-of-the-house! I have brought the brother home to supper!
[Throws hat]
Mary Kate Danaher: He is kindly welcome.
"Red Will" Danaher: [also drunk] God bless all in this house...
Mary Kate Danaher: Wipe your feet!
"Red Will" Danaher: Thank you mum!

Michaleen Flynn: Two women in the house - and one of them a redhead!

Fishwoman with basket at station: Sir!... Sir!... Here's a good stick, to beat the lovely lady.

Michaleen Flynn: Is this a courting or a donnybrook? Have the good manners not to hit the man until he's your husband and entitled to hit you back.

Michaleen Flynn: [on seeing the broken bed] Impetuous! Homeric!

Pat Cohan: Ah, what a day for Inisfree! On a day like this, I can say only one thing - Gentlemen, the drinks are on the house!
[pub patrons suddenly stop their conversations and stare at him in stunned silence]
Pat Cohan: Well, they are!

Father Paul: Father! Father Lonergan!
Father Peter Lonergan, Narrator: [not wanting to disturb the fish] Ssh, ssh, ssh, ssh, ssh.
Father Paul: It's a big fight in the town!
Father Peter Lonergan, Narrator: Listen, there's a big fight in this fish right here, too.
Father Paul: I'd have put a stop to it, but seeing it's...
Father Peter Lonergan, Narrator: You do that, lad. It's your duty.
Father Paul: But seeing it was Danaher and Sean Thornton...
[Father Lonergan turns at stares at Father Paul in amazement]
Father Peter Lonergan, Narrator: WHO?
Father Paul: Danaher and Sean Thornton!
Father Peter Lonergan, Narrator: WELL WHY THE DEVIL DIDN'T YOU TELL ME? Oh, you young...
[Throws down his fishing rod and the two run back into town. They abruptly stop behind a gate]
Father Paul: Father, shouldn't we put a stop to it now?
Father Peter Lonergan, Narrator: [relishing the fight from a distance] Ah, we should, lad, yes, we should, it's our duty!

INFORMATION IMDb

I have always told to people that The Quiet Man is the most grateful movies in the World in all that categories. And those memorable quotes you have write showing us that. That film has all that humour and excitement you are needing.

"The Quiet Man" is by far my mother's alltime favorite movie and I was raised on it. My fascination with this cinematic masterpiece has been renewed by recently acquiring the 50th anniversary DVD with Maureen O'Hara's excellent commentary.

Having just watched much of the film the other day, not to mention countless times earlier, I'll put in my 2¢ as to any spanking/beating which occurs: after they're married (and she won't let him in the bedroom) he throws her on the bed and breaks it. In a scene taking place shortly afterwards, he tells her to get ready to go to town. When she turns her back, he whops her good across the butt, with what might be considered quite a hard blow by many women but a "love tap" to a man. She takes it as a "love tap" and smiles. After he returns home following their big (verbal) fight during this trip to town, she hands him a stick to beat her, which he flings into the fire. During the dragging scene, he does, indeed, kick her in the butt (they carefully choreographed this beforehand,) and a lady hands him "a good stout stick to beat the lovely lady," which he looks at, carries for awhile, then throws away. At NO TIME does he EVER strike her with a stick or in any prolonged manner! During the commentary, Maureen O'Hara replied to the line, "Have the good manners not to strike him until he's your husband, and entitled to hit you back," by saying there's no law in Ireland entitling a man to hit his wife. I was very surprised because I was sure there was a law on the books at least as late as the 1970s entitling a man to beat a woman as long as 1) they were married, 2) he strike her with bare hands or a stick no thicker around than his thumb, and 3) that he not draw blood--bruises and broken bones perfectly okay! But perhaps this law was in England, not Ireland? Anyone know?

It was interesting to learn how many people falsely claimed contribution to or involvement with the film. Some research I did on a Ray Bradbury short story has revealed much information on an individual who made an invaluable contribution to the film which has gone entirely uncredited. The facts, including links, can be found here: http://raybradburyboard.com/groupee/forums...01/m/7881075901 (http://raybradburyboard.com/groupee/forums/a/tpc/f/3791083901/m/7881075901)

This thread contains links to both a picture of the ruins of the original "White O'Morn" and the site of the Quiet Man Cottage Museum, an as near as possible exact replica of that cottage nearby.

To a museum housing "Quiet Man" information, such things should prove of great interest. I sent them this information and very much hope it ends up in the hands of someone compiling information on the film's history.

Someone on the Maureen O'Hara board claims the tune was folk music in the public domain at the time both Richard Farrelly and John Ford used it. If I can induce her to share her findings on the Ray Bradbury board, all the information will be accessible in the thread referenced above. Richard Farrelly does still deserve credit for having written the version of the song which called the tune to John Ford's attention.

More quotes from the movie:

"Red Will" Danaher: You know this is a fight I'd come a long way to see

Sean Thornton: I hope you can stick around for the finish.

"Red Will" Danaher: DON'T YOU WORRY ABOUT THAT!



"Red Will" Danaher: Ya know Yank, I've taken quite a liking to ya.

Sean Thornton: I'm getting real fond of you, too.

"Red Will" Danaher: Yer widow, me sister, coulda done alot of worse, poor woman.

Sean Thornton: Thanks (sort of sarcastically)

The Quiet Man is indeed in our top three JW films, which continually rotate :rolleyes: , and is truly one great film!

Many people on our board have had the good fortune to visit Cong and the surrounding area. I know that many people around here are hoping to go to Monument Valley next year, for the Duke's 100th birthday, but Ermal Williamson and many of his friends and associates are planning a trip to Ireland to commemorate the event. The last time I talked to him, a couple of months ago, it sounded like that was still their plan. While I'd like to go to both places, I suspect Monument Valley will be the most realistic option.

Chester :newyear:

Um...is that the place where they supposedly all got cancer? Is the cause all gone now? Better watch yourselves. :unsure:

Originally posted by CoriSCapnSkip@Feb 4 2006, 05:48 AM
Um...is that the place where they supposedly all got cancer?* Is the cause all gone now?* Better watch yourselves.* :unsure:
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No, the "place where they supposedly all got cancer" was St. George, Utah during the filming of The Conqueror (1956).

Oh, okay, good. -_-

After John Wayne's wife wrote that the four people who actually died of cancer after being at that location--John Wayne, Agnes Moorehead, and two others whose names I forget--were all heavy smokers, some of them with a three or four pack a day habit, I just accepted that as the cause. In the DVD commentary on "The Quiet Man," though, Maureen O'Hara said "a number of us who worked there got cancer" including herself, and her website says she NEVER smoked cigarettes. Advertised the product, but never used it. And, despite her reference to the Utah location, she did cite smoking as the cause of Duke's death.

What are the other two movie favorites of his in the top three?

In 1999 could I read in a Newspaper that three American Favorite movies was: Gone With The Wind, Casablanca and The Quiet Man. And it was in that order.

Wow, I was asking just about the three top John Wayne movies. I did not realize it ranked in the three favorite American movies of all time.

Still waiting to learn the top three John Wayne movies!

There is one funny anecdote concerning my online search regarding "The Quiet Man." No matter how many times we saw the film, there was one line my mom and I could never make out. When Michaleen Oge Flynn runs out of the pub on hearing of the fight, he says, "One if by land, two if by sea, and if it's ta Danaher's I'll fire the lot," then I could make out, "horse, foot, and" (my mom was lost by that point) then something neither of us could understand.

Thanks to the internet, I was able to learn the name of the institution which keeps John Ford's papers and asked them to look in the script. They returned that the line is, "One if by land, two if by sea, and if it's ta Danaher's I'll fire the lot, horse, foot, and artillery." I kind of expected Maureen O'Hara might mention it in the DVD commentary, as other lines that no one can understand, such as "The Flintstones"'s "through the courtesy of Fred's two feet" and "All in the Family"'s "Gee, our old LaSalle ran great" were legendary (so much so that "All in the Family" re-recorded the theme song) but she didn't. I wonder if we were the only ones bothered by not understanding this line? Maybe it's a common expression and everyone else was able to guess it.

When I brought up the garbled line on the Maureen O'Hara board it was mentioned that Barry Fitzgerald had run into some problems concerning his accent, having to do retakes, no doubt so "the Yanks" could understand.

The moderator at Maureen O'Hara's site ran the dialogue question by her and called the expression "Typical IRA talk." She mentions having a shooting script which doesn't even have that line in it.

The question about "The Quiet Man" dialogue which comes up the most frequently concerns the Gaelic lyrics at the end of Maureen's song as she sits at the piano--"I'll rest awhile beside you grad mo croide" (grah ma cree)--which means "Love of my heart." Maureen O'Hara did cover this and some of the other Irish dialogue in the DVD commentary.

I hesitate to say the Ray Bradbury Mystery aspect of this is completely "solved," but it's been considerably "enlightened" by a close and vital source!

A phone conversation between this individual and Ray Bradbury reveals "this was just a compilation of fictions.

"(Bradbury) was trying to remember what Deanna Durbin movie he might have been thinking of, but hasn’t come up with anything yet. As for the song, he’s aware that Deanna Durbin didn’t sing it, but liked the song and title and incorporated it into the story."

I said if the recording didn't exist, I'd be very interested as to what was used instead when the play "The Anthem Sprinters" was performed. I also asked, since there is one song titled "Isle of Innisfree" by Richard Farrelly, and another, (The) "Lake Isle of Innisfree" by William Butler Yeats, but no "Lovely Isle of Innisfree" that I've been able to find, which one he was thinking of.

The source replies: "(Bradbury) can’t remember what they used in the play and neither can I. As for the song itself, he just said that that title popped into his head, so he used it. I hope all is well."

To which I replied: "Fine; I didn't have a bet riding on it or anything." (Unlike most of the characters in "The Quiet Man.")

It seems I was also less than 100% correct in believing Deanna Durbin to have become an utter recluse. It seems she did some voice work in a film in 1999: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0002052/?fr=c2l...fc=1;ft=29;fm=1 (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0002052/?fr=c2l0ZT1kZnxteD0y...bT0x;fc=1;ft=29;fm=1)

Perhaps Bradbury should compose a song titled "The Lovely Isle of Innisfree" and Deanna Durbin should record it!

Hi all!
There is something in the scripts in this side I will give my comment on. The owner to White O’Morn is leaving in Santa Ana Califonia. That was never a spanking scene in TQM. The stick was for that we all could see in the movie, Mary Kate Danaher should go nice and quiet beside of Sean Thornton. The stick had a psychological effect. The Inisfree (You shall spell it so) toke four days to shoot. The whole ensemble was arriving to Ireland June the 5 and left Ireland July the 17. The cast room in Ashford Castle was rent to August the 3 and there was no room problem for the American crew. I think much of that who is written before in this site is coming from IMDb and there are many wrong things for two years ago was they telling about four days in Ireland, so they are on right way.
When I was watching on The Quiet Man in yesterday could I see Duke say “Thanks” and his lips was moving little.
Len.

Hello Bay Area John Wayne fans!

On March 18, the historic El Campanil Theatre in Antioch, CA (40 miles east of San Francisco) will present The Quiet Man (1952). Shows are at 2pm and 7:30 pm. We will also have a traditional Irish music performance and Irish dancing before the movie. Don't miss this rare chance to view John Ford's epic masterpiece on the big screen, the way it was meant to be seen!

For more information and directions to the theatre: www.elcampaniltheatre.com

Esther Park
Director of Film Programming
El Campanil Theatre
602 West Second St.
Antioch, CA 94509
925-757-9500

Hi Esther, I can imagine how wonderful the experience for all the viewers to see The Quiet Man on the big screne is going to be because I have loved the movie ever since I first saw it many years ago on tv. Since then I have painted several canvases in tribute to such a fine movie. In case you might like to see some of them you may at http://www.bryanvarnam.com/bryans_web_site_2_045.htm. Thanks for the heads up, wish I was one of them but it isn't likely since I live clear on the other side here in North Carolina.
Bryan

Hi Esther,

Thanks for your post, and a big
WELCOME

to the JWMB.

It sounds like a wonderful event,
and I am sure that our members who live near enough,
will be very interested, and they will be in touch with you,

Thanks,

Welcome Esther,

Thanks for the info, too bad I live in Minnesota. It sounds like a good time.

Esther,

We don't know how you found us, but we sure are glad you did!

WELCOME to the John Wayne Message Board!

Thank you so much for this information. We are among the lucky ones who live close enough to Antioch to be able to attend this showing (although some of our members have their own airplanes and could fly in for the show)!

Chester :newyear: and the Mrs. :angel1:

Hi Esther.

I would like to add my Welcome as well.
It sounds like you are going to have a
great time. I was lucky enough to see
The Quiet Man on the big screen, and as
you say, that's how it should be seen. I
wish I could be there, but I'll have to make
do with watching it on the old box at home.

Best wishes

Emmanuel

Hi Bryan, thanks for sharing your artwork. Your paintings are beautiful!

Esther

Originally posted by Bryan Varnam@Feb 23 2006, 05:05 PM
Hi Esther,* I can imagine how wonderful the experience for all the viewers to see The Quiet Man on the big screne is going to be because I have loved the movie ever since I first saw it many years ago on tv.* Since then I have painted several canvases in tribute to such a fine movie.* In case you might like to see some of them you may at http://www.bryanvarnam.com/bryans_web_site_2_045.htm.* Thanks for the heads up, wish I was one of them but it isn't likely since I live clear on the other side here in North Carolina.
Bryan
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Hi Chester,

I'm glad I found you too :) This is such a nice board.

That's great that you'll be able to make the showing. Please be sure to stop and say hello and let me know you're from the Duke board! (I'll be wearing a nametag)

Esther

Originally posted by chester7777@Feb 23 2006, 11:44 PM
Esther,

We don't know how you found us, but we sure are glad you did!

WELCOME to the John Wayne Message Board!

Thank you so much for this information.* We are among the lucky ones who live close enough to Antioch to be able to attend this showing (although some of our members have their own airplanes and could fly in for the show)!*

Chester :newyear: and the Mrs. :angel1:
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Hi

There is a romance in seeing films on the big screen which you are not aware of until later when you reminisce. I first saw the Quiet Man around about the time I was fifteen about five years after it came out and by that time it had started to take on that colour that happens to all films of those day, it didn't look crystal clear but it was still a brilliant story, and a joy to watch.

Pester Sue and Jim have a good evening watching it. and enjoy the diddly eye di music

Regards

Arthur

Antioch, California....only wish it were closer, I would truly love to see this particular film on the big screen. Enjoy the show, no doubt it truly will be something to remember.

Roger.

Just bumping this back to the top, in case there are other folks within a reasonable distance to be able to take advantage of this wonderful opportunity, who might not have seen this the first time around.

We're about 100 miles away from Antioch (CA), but will make an evening of it.

Chester :newyear:

Wishing I could be there myself,
but I hope the one's that make it there,
have a really good time.

Originally posted by chester7777@Mar 9 2006, 08:33 AM
Just bumping this back to the top, in case there are other folks within a reasonable distance to be able to take advantage of this wonderful opportunity, who might not have seen this the first time around.

We're about 100 miles away from Antioch (CA), but will make an evening of it.

Chester :newyear:
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I'll try to "beam" over.Wish I could be there :rolleyes:

Doggone, if only Star Trek had stayed on a little longer, we could have used that technology to our advantage. :lol:

Maybe there will be some kind of wireless Internet access available and we will bring our laptop and keep those of us at the gathering in touch with the message board :D .

Chester :newyear:

I agree. I saw the film Thursday evening (first time ever in a theater!) and both times when water is thrown on him he says, "Thanks" through clenched teeth so his lips don't move much. When liquor is thrown on him he says, "Bar towel."

Hi all


Did you know, that in Ashford Castle
in Cong, County Mayo, where Duke
and John Ford made
THE QUIET MAN
They show the movie on every TV
in the Castle at 5.00pm every day,
365 days a year!

I hope you all enjoy seeing it on the
big screen.

Emmanuel.

If you are searching after the dialogue transcript can you look in this online site
http://www.script-o-rama.com/movie_scripts...cript-john.html (http://www.script-o-rama.com/movie_scripts/q/quiet-man-script-transcript-john.html)

Originally posted by Emmanuel@Mar 10 2006, 01:25 AM
Did you know, that in Ashford Castle
in Cong, County Mayo, where Duke and John Ford made THE QUIET MAN, they show the movie on every TV in the Castle at 5.00pm every day, 365 days a year!
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Wow! That is pretty neat! They must charge people to come in, I guess. Is it very much?

I learned last night that one of the members of our little group will be unable to attend due to a death in the family. :( We will miss her, it will take away from our time a little bit to not have her with us.

Chester :newyear:

Hi all

Chester, Unfortunately there are no TV's
in any public areas of Ashford Castle. you
must be a guest and watch it in your room.

Emmanuel.

Here is an interesting news article regarding The Quiet Man-

A 'quiet' fascination (http://www.helenair.com/articles/2006/03/12/helena_top/a01031206_04.txt)

Mrs. C :angel1:

It's been a few very busy days, but we are finally here to share with you that we did make it to the El Campanil Theatre in Antioch, California Saturday to see The Quiet Man. It is an old theatre from the 1920s, that has been lovingly restored within the past two to three years. It really was special to be able to watch the film in this venue, in a theatre full of viewers reacting to the different aspects of the movie (especially the funny ones :lol: ).

The Mrs. and I (and our youngest son, Christopher) met Esther, the lovely lady who made us aware of this event in the first place. It was great to put a face to the name, and although it was an over 200 mile round trip, we would consider doing it again for a similar happening.

We had over a hundred flyers printed up, advertising the JWMB, which I passed out at the door, at both showings. As I was dressed up in my Western JW garb, quite a few people focused in on that right off. I indicated that if they were JW fans, they should check out the message board. Hopefully, we'll pick up a few new fans in our merry little band.

As to the film itself, it was in fairly good condition. The color was very good, although at times there was a line running along the side, or flecks or spots. Nothing serious for the average viewer - a critic might notice or be distracted. However, I have viewed some pretty poor quality films, and this was highly watchable. The sound system in the theatre is excellent, better than the original to be sure.

The seating was quite comfortable, and in the upper seating, there was a curtain-like thing between each row, so you felt very private. That was really cool.

Thanks again, Esther, for letting us know about this special event!

Chester :newyear: and the Mrs. :angel1:

Hi Chester, Mrs C and Christopher

I'm glad you all enjoyed THE QUIET MAN
on the big screen. it really is the best way
to view movies.

Best wishes

Emmanuel.

We took some pictures, but someone had set the resolution on the camera so high that the files were too big to post, so we had to resize the photos in order to be able to share them with you here.

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The pretty lady in green , picture on the left, is Esther.

The other pretty lady with me, picture on the right, is Mrs C.

Chester :newyear:

Sorry to have to do this in two posts, but even after resizing the pictures, I could only post two in the last post.

Here is a picture of me and our son, Chris, out in front of the theatre, with the poster advertising the movie.

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I don't know what that kid was doing - he sure has a funny look on his face :lol: .

Chester :newyear:

Hi Chester,
Very nice photos. Thank you for them and for the story.
Regards,
Senta :rolleyes:

Hi all

Chester and Mrs C, thanks for sharing
the photos with us, I know it's been said
before, but Chester you do look a little
like the Duke in your cowboy gear.


Best wishes

Emmanuel.

Hi Chester/Jim, Sue, and Christopher!

It was wonderful to meet you all. Thank you so much for coming to our screening, and for promoting it in this forum. One meets the nicest people on the internet :) Of course, meeting you in person was even better- your JW costume was FANTASTIC and I was really bowled over (as were movie patrons) by how much you looked like John Wayne. We'll definitely let you know about future JW screenings at the El Campanil. Thanks for posting the pics... I have some too which I will try to send along. I'll also send them (with your permission) to our local newspaper's community scrapbook editor- they have published photos of our events in the past.

Thanks again for everything!

Esther

Originally posted by chester7777@Mar 21 2006, 01:11 AM
It's been a few very busy days, but we are finally here to share with you that we did make it to the El Campanil Theatre in Antioch, California Saturday to see The Quiet Man.* It is an old theatre from the 1920s, that has been lovingly restored within the past two to three years.* It really was special to be able to watch the film in this venue, in a theatre full of viewers reacting to the different aspects of the movie (especially the funny ones :lol: ).

The Mrs. and I (and our youngest son, Christopher) met Esther, the lovely lady who made us aware of this event in the first place.* It was great to put a face to the name, and although it was an over 200 mile round trip, we would consider doing it again for a similar happening.

We had over a hundred flyers printed up, advertising the JWMB, which I passed out at the door, at both showings.* As I was dressed up in my Western JW garb, quite a few people focused in on that right off.* I indicated that if they were JW fans, they should check out the message board.* Hopefully, we'll pick up a few new fans in our merry little band.

As to the film itself, it was in fairly good condition.* The color was very good, although at times there was a line running along the side, or flecks or spots.* Nothing serious for the average viewer - a critic might notice or be distracted.* However, I have viewed some pretty poor quality films, and this was highly watchable.* The sound system in the theatre is excellent, better than the original to be sure.

The seating was quite comfortable, and in the upper seating, there was a curtain-like thing between each row, so you felt very private.* That was really cool.*

Thanks again, Esther, for letting us know about this special event!

Chester :newyear: and the Mrs. :angel1:
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Looks like you guys had fun.

Too bad there is nothing like that around here.

Esther, maybe you can promote a couple screenings in the Minnesota area, in the summer time of course :)

Thanks for sharing the story and the pictures, Chester. I wish I could have seen that movie on the big screen amoung other fans. Looking at the pic of you and your wife, it is exactly the proportion of size difference between my wife and I. What is it about us large men that prefer the tiny ones? :blink: Maybe 'cause they can't wallop us as hard :D Hee hee.

Love the outfit there, Pilgrim.

Mark

Those pictures were great, Chester and the Mrs. - Chester, you do look amazingly like Duke in your Western gear and the Mrs. looks right in place there next to you.
Seeing "The Quiet Man" on the big screen when vintage movies are rarely seen in such a context these days has got to be something very memorable.
Cheers - Jay :D

Chester & The Mrs. Thanks for showing the photo's as well as telling us what happened. Here in Corpus Christi, there is a group of people who are thinking of restoring an old theater located on Chapperal Street here in Corpus Christi. I think it is called the Ritz Theater, and was built I think around the 1920's or so. The group has been in the news lately saying that they might need some help in the restoration of this place. It's estimated to cost around $6 Million or so. Anyway, they are planning on only showing classic movies there as well.

Best regards -- C.

Jim;

Great picture of You and Mrs C., I love it!!! :wub: I sure wish that I had My little Sweetheart Martha Back with Me, but now I will have to be Happy with My Airplane and The 26 Bar Ranch. :rolleyes: I can hardly wait to meet You and Mrs. C Face to Face some day. :jump:

Bill :cowboy:

Does anyone know whether "The Quiet Man" DVD has been discontnued or pulled to prepare a new restored version. My brother-law decided to purcchase a copy, but cannot find it anywhere. The only place I can find it is on the second hand markets-no one seems to have a new copy. Thanks.

JoeM,

First of all, we would like to welcome you to the John Wayne Message Board! You will be hard pressed to find one better on the Internet. There are many great sites devoted to Duke, but as far as message boards go, we have found this to be the best!

As to your question about The Quiet Man on DVD, it seems it might not be readily available, except used. I checked out Deep Discount DVD (http://www.deepdiscountdvd.com/), and they have movie posters available for the movie, but not the movie itself. Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/gp/search/002-3581901-1689624?search-alias=aps&keywords=quiet%20man) has it "used and new", starting at $14.99, but only available through outside vendors. You could check ebay, but I strongly suggest you do not buy anything from China or Singapore, as those are likely to be copies. Though I haven't researched it this morning, it seems I remember some brief discussion regarding the quality of this film on DVD, and that it wasn't that good. So perhaps you are right, maybe there is a new release in the future. I know there are others here who regularly check out web sites for new releases and perhaps they will report their findings here.

Just as a thought, many public libraries have DVDs available for borrowing, and that might be a way to at least see the movie without a major cash outlay.

Again, we welcome you to the JWMB, and hope you will give us a chance to get to know you better.

Chester :newyear: and the Mrs. :angel1:

As has already been discussed many times on this site, Paramount purchased the rights to the Republic film library last year. They have discontinued the Republic DVD's, and will likely release them under their own banner sometime in the future.

Originally posted by CoriSCapnSkip@Feb 9 2006, 12:59 AM
I also asked, since there is one song titled "Isle of Innisfree" by Richard Farrelly, and another, (The) "Lake Isle of Innisfree" by William Butler Yeats, but no "Lovely Isle of Innisfree" that I've been able to find, which one he was thinking of.

Yeats' poem is the one which inspired the name of the village in the movie, and the song. From the collection Rose 1893. A piece of trivia: Clint Eastwood reads a bit of this poem in his film "Million dollar baby".

The Lake Isle Of Innisfree

I will arise and go now, and go to Innisfree,
And a small cabin build there, of clay and wattles made:
Nine bean-rows will I have there, a hive for the honeybee,
And live alone in the bee-loud glade.

And I shall have some peace there, for peace comes dropping slow,
Dropping from the veils of the morning to where the cricket sings;
There midnight's all a glimmer, and noon a purple glow,
And evening full of the linnet's wings.

I will arise and go now, for always night and day
I hear lake water lapping with low sounds by the shore;
While I stand on the roadway, or on the pavements grey,
I hear it in the deep heart's core.

The Quiet Man is one of my absolute favorite movies ever. I own the DVD and watch it every time it comes on tv. Being that I'm of Irish ancestry, I feel a strong kinship with this film. The story is wonderful, the photography is beautiful, and the characters are perfect.

Then there's the legendary fight scene. I think it's the best I've seen in any movie.

This movie is perfect in every way.

- cchoate

Something happened in the posting so apologies if this comes out repeated.

I have 2 questions about the Quiet Man.

The first is does anyone know what breed of horse it is that Barry Fitzgerald is driving in the fil? The horse's name is Napoleon.

The other quest is does anyone know what book Fr. Paul is reading from when he is visiting the death bed of the character played by Francis Ford?

Thanks,

Originally posted by Tbone@May 29 2006, 02:45 PM
The first is does anyone know what breed of horse it is that Barry Fitzgerald is driving in the fil? The horse's name is Napoleon.

I don't know, but it looks a lot like Irish Draught, the old type, as seen in old pictures

I believe that horse is what they will call them in Ireland, Connemara pony. That horse type is only exciting in Ireland. There is one internet site who is telling us about that book Father Paul Lonergan is reading from, but I can’t remember whish, I am sorry for that. You can search under name “The Quiet Man (1952) in the net, but look up for virus!

Originally posted by etsija@May 30 2006, 05:12 AM
I don't know, but it looks a lot like Irish Draught, the old type, as seen in old pictures
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That's what I was wondering but I wasn't sure about the amount of feather on the hoofs.

It's strange, and sad, that the Irish Draught was the horse of the peasant farmer in Ireland and now you can't touch one for under $15,000. I'd like to be able to work a small farm with them but I don't think I'd be able to afford it.

This date the June 6 is a memorable date for us who is The Quiet Man maniacs. It was in that date the first movie shooting been made and it was that date the film had World Premier in Adelphi Cinema in Dublin.

The Quiet Man is playing on Turner Classic Movies right now.

I just love John Wayne and Maureen O'Hara's chemistry in this movie. I can watch it over and over again. He was so sexy in this movie and my favourite quote is about "there'll be no locks and bolts between us Mary Kate..." and the broken bed! :lol:

I want to buy it on VHS.

The graveyard scene was one of the most famous film love scene in film history and John Ford was description that scene as that most sexually scene in all time. But John Wayne and Maureen O’Hara was description that as a really soaker.
I saw amazon.com have The Quiet Man in VHS.

Hard choice, but The Quiet Man is my all time favorite Duke movie. It is funny and romantic and manly all at the same time. One of my favorite lines is in this movie.
Thorton: "If you say three, mister, you'll never hear the man count ten" Love it. Maureen is beautiful, as always.

Here comes one other wonderful speak from Mr speaker himself.
Those were the bad days. Sean with a face as dark as the black hunter he rode. A fine, ill-tempered pair they were. It was only a matter of time before one or the other broke his neck. We knew things couldn’t go on this way. So, we formed a little conspiracy. The Reverend Mr and Mrs Playfair, Michaeleen Oge and, saints forgive us, myself. And on the day of the Inisfree Races, we sprung the trap on Red Will Danaher.

Originally posted by Tbone@May 29 2006, 06:45 AM
Something happened in the posting so apologies if this comes out repeated.

I have 2 questions about the Quiet Man.

The first is does anyone know what breed of horse it is that Barry Fitzgerald is driving in the fil? The horse's name is Napoleon.

The other question is does anyone know what book Fr. Paul is reading from when he is visiting the death bed of the character played by Francis Ford?

Thanks,
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We missed these questions the first time Tbone posted them, and thought maybe others did, too, so we are bringing Tbone's post back up for your consideration.

The first question seems to have been satisfactorily answered.

lenrehn made reference to a site somewhere that might answer the second question, but maybe someone out there has more information. Sorry to say, we don't know the answer.

Chester :newyear:

In Professor Des MacHale’s fantastic book “The Complete Guide To The Quiet Man” could you read this about Father Paul’s reading from a book.
“We now switch to the interior of Dan Tobin’s cottage which is a studio scene. The gaffer himself is meant to be a deathbed, slowly expiring, though from the frontal camera angle he looks pretty healthy. By his bedside Father Paul is reading, not from the prayers for the dying as was originally intended but from a bloodthirsty Celtic saga. In the little bedroom are several shawled crying quietly and in particular there is Dan Tobin’s daughter played by Mimi Doyle.

About those horses in the film can i only say they were trained by a man named John Daly which I also could read in same book. All I can do is to guess the breed on that horses and there is a breed named Connemara Pony’s which have their origin from horses who was shimmying in to land from a Spanish armada in the time the Queen Elizabeth the I were ruler in England. There is lot of sites about Connemara Pony’s on the internet. I had fault in one thing earlier and that was that when I were telling that breed is only in west Ireland, that was very fault when they are even on many places here in Europe including Sweden. So the gist had been that they maybe were by that breed Connemara Pony’s.
Len

Originally posted by Tbone@May 29 2006, 02:45 PM
The other quest is does anyone know what book Fr. Paul is reading from when he is visiting the death bed of the character played by Francis Ford?
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Hi lenrehn,

Are you able to anser this question, for Tbone?

The name on the book can’t I and probability not other now living person tells to you. That only I could find out in Professor Des MacHales book is that Father Paul were reading from a bloodthirsty Celtic saga. I think that is so close you can go just now. That book is not named in some books and Maureen O’Haras webmaster June Parker Beck was telling she had not a clue about it. If that book had been mentioned so should she know what book it was?
Len

Hi Keith
I have spread out your question to Mohara Forum and The Quiet Man Movie Club and maybe there is someone who has a replay to that. But I don’t really know. I has not more to tell you about it just now.
Len

Originally posted by lenrehn@Oct 15 2006, 11:32 AM
Hi Keith
I have spread out your question to Mohara Forum and The Quiet Man Movie Club and maybe there is someone who has a replay to that. But I don’t really know. I has not more to tell you about it just now.
Len
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Hej,

Thanks so far, please keep us posted.

Yes I will but I think that takes some days.
Len

I got this answer from June Parker Beck but nothing from The Quit Man Movie Club and I guess there not will be some answer too. June’s answer had other great news so I like to put in it here.
Len - Since my last post I did speak with Ms. O'Hara and she confirms it was a bible or prayer book in keeping with the mission/duty of the Priest, Father Paul. I didn't realize that Mr. MacHale published otherwise. It is interesting to note that this was one of few interiors that were actually shot in Ireland. They found an old empty house in Cong and used that.

Hi lenrehn,

Thanks for all your efforts,
I hope this helps to answer TBone's question

It’s my pleasure. That movie is my absolute favorite and in five to seven years have I made so big research I could about just that grandiose movie and even trying to learn English with the film as a textbooks and teaching aids. In my interest is even all that who was happen in Ireland in shooting time and all that locale places they where using.
Len

CONG

Cong was the setting and the filming location
for John Ford's 1952 Oscar-winning film,

The Quiet Man

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Cong- Photos (http://cong.mayo-ireland.ie/photos.htm)

Information from
Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Edited and added to by ethanedwards

Cong (Conga Fheichín or Cúnga Fheichín in Irish) is a village in County Mayo, Republic of Ireland, next to the Galway border. It is located on the north shore of Lough Corrib, near the town of Ballinrobe and the villages of Neale and Cross. Cong is known for its underground streams that connect Lough Corrib with Lough Mask to the north. It was also the home of Sir William Wilde, historian and father to prominent playwright, novelist, poet, and short story writer, Oscar Wilde.

This picturesque village lies on the shores off Lough Corrib, just within County Mayo. It is on the edge of Connemara. Cong, (in Gaelic Cung) means isthmus, the village lies on the strip of land between Lough Corrib and Lough Mask.

Just south of Cong is Ashford Castle, built in a Gothic revival style by Arthur Guinness (Lord Ardilaun), is now a five star hotel with Golf Course.
One of Ireland's finest hotels, converted from a medieval lakeside castle, and a tourist attraction in its own right.
Much of the movie was filmed on the grounds of Ashford Castle.
Duke, John Ford, and the other major stars, also stayed there during filming.
The famous fight scene was shot in the grounds of the castle,
Much memorabilia and special tours are available to commemorate the film.

Ashford Castle (http://www.ashford.ie/)

The town and castle area remain little changed since 1952, and Cong's connection with the movie make it a major tourist attraction in that part of Mayo.

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Cong also has a fine example of a ruined medieval abbey, and Celtic art in the form of a stone High cross called the Cross of Cong, which shows Viking influences.
The majestic remains of Cong Abbey are the relics of the Augustinian abbey founded in the 12th century by Turlough O'Connor, King of Connaught and High King of Ireland. The Market Cross of Cong in the village commemorates tow former abbots of the monastery. The Cross of Cong, an ornate processional cross intended for the abbey, is now in Dublin's National Museum.

The Cong Canal, also known as the "Dry Canal" was a failure, primarily due to its inability to hold water. Now used as a drainage channel only, the water level can vary between 6 inches and 12 feet depending on the time of year (summer dry, winter full). Built heritage features of the canal remain.

A replica of the famous thatched cottage in the movie is located at Maam Cross
County Galway, in the west of Ireland.

Click on Link:-

The Quiet Man Cottage (http://www.museumsofmayo.com/quietman.htm)

Information from IMDb

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Only two weeks of the production was spent in Ireland
because the local hotels couldn't accommodate the American crew.

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Cohan's Pub in the movie is, in reality, a grocery store,
but when the film turned out to be very popular they never bothered to remove the facade used in the film.
As of September 2003, Cohan's Pub is no longer a grocery store but strictly a souvenir shop
specializing in "Quiet Man" keepsakes. The original owner is still the proprietor and is willing to share memories of the filming of the movie.

The station used in the opening sequence and during the scene where John Wayne
slams the train doors looking for 'Maureen OHara later in the film is Ballyglunin station,
south of the town of Tuam, Co. Galway. It looks the same today as it did in 1951,
when the film was shot (although released in 1952).
The only major difference is that the bridge which crosses the railway tracks is now gone.
This bridge was moved to Ballinasloe station, East Galway (where it still stands today), after Ballyglunin closed down as a main line.

The horse racing sequence was shot at Lettergesh beach, Connemara, on the west coast of Ireland.

When Sean and Mary Kate take their wagon into town a store called "Emily O'Connor" can be seen in the background. This is actually a crafts store and is still in business to this day.

Keith, I am sorry but if you have some interest about publishing right things about one of the world most wonderful movies should you read in the book In The Footsteps Of The Quiet Man by Gerry McNee. There can you read John Wayne, Maureen O’Hara and the rest of actors were arriving to Cong June 5 and that first shooting was June 6. That last shoot was filmed 11 o’clock am July 14. That is 6 weeks not 2 or 4. All that is also confirmed by Maureen O’Hara and she’s webmaster June Parker Beck. I can also tell that the fighting scene toke 4 days to record.
About Pat Cohan Bar can I tell you all the bar is on way to be rebuilt to that bar it was in the movie? That work should have been finished in September this year but so is it not.
Len

Hi lenrehn,

Thanks for pointing that out,
However, I didn't publish this information,
IMDb did.
The information, was lifted from
the trivia section of the movie.

It is impossible for any of us to verify,
all information that we read and see posted,
and I for one do not have the time to cross reference every
single book, on every topic

That's what this board is all about,
discussion and comments,
and nothing to do with, having singular interest,
or lack of it!
Incidently, as you mentioned interest,
the trivia in question,
was originally posted on
Jan 22 2006, 12:11 AM
in the Movie Review??

As the Red Indians would probably say,
it's easy to pick over the bones,
when the carcass is lying there!!

Maybe that was same Indian who was saying that the white man is talking with two sounds? Or as we have translated it here, “split tongue.” I think sometimes that is very strange what I can read in some websites and I have read that sites you have taken your quotations from too. There is it written that were problem with theirs hotel rooms living and in the book could I read something else. I will give you a short quotation from that book In the Footsteps of TQM.
“The last shot were taken about 11 a.m. on 14 July, yet Ashford Castle had been booked for three months from 1 June till 21 August and the telephone service booked with the Department of Post and Telegraphs for the same time.”
Len

I hope TBone can have some help of these lines. Here is that lines Father Paul Lonergan are reading with Dan Tobin’s deathbed. I guess you can’t find that lines in a Bible or a Pray book. If someone can find a book with those lines so would that be wonderful news for all of us TQM Maniacs.
Len

“...hands of a hundred battles, eye on a thousand besides...”
“...stood alone on the victorious field, his buckler bent...”
“...his broken sword clutched in his mighty hand...”
“...the blood of a thousand wounds oozing from his open veins...”

Nowadays I can't eat potatoes without thinking about the scene with Victor M sitting at the table eating his potatoes in large chunks.

Last night we watched the Quiet Man (instead of Super-bowl). Probably like the 25th time we have seen it. My wife noticed something we never saw before, and its good reason for each of you to pull out your copy, and watch it again. In the big fight scene, Michaeleen Og Flynn is struggling to keep track of all the bets, and someone wants to put a few more pounds on Thornton, but he says its closed...however, Feeney, the little squint, approaches Michaeleen very closely...gets right up into his face and says that he wants to put two pounds on "The Yank", even though he had previously bet on Danaher. So Michaleen responds, "doooogh...you traiter!!" Their faces are about 4 inches apart, and if you look closely, you can see that as Barry Fitzgerald delivered that line, he accidently spits directly into the mouth of Feeney. (Yuck!)

GSP

The scene I refer to above is on you tube...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sn0yH5xwTjg&mode=related&search=

at the very end of that long clip. You have to look carefully, but you can see the spit flying across at Feeney, and then Fitzgerald seems a little embarassed as he puts his hand to his mouth.

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The music in The Quiet Man.

I have always thinking that the music is like important as that story we can see on the screen. So here come short lists about that music I have found out. I hope you will enjoy it.

Mostly of this have I found in The Complete Guide To The Quiet Man.
In the first scene with Ashford Castle in the background play the orchestra “The Rakes of Mallow”. In the opening scene on the Ballyglunin railway station is the orchestra playing “Dreams of Alwyn” or “Isle of Innisfree” if you like it better. Margaret Niland tells John Ford had taken one orchestra to the railway station who played it on stage and the train and the music been recorded direct in one scene.

In St Anselm’s Chapel after 7 o’clock mass plays “Kitty of Coleraine” which was a protestant hymn who probability not should be played in a catholic church.

In the Inisfree Cup plays Scottish bagpipes “The Wearing of the Green”, “The Rakes of Mallow”, “Garryowen”, ”Believe Me If All Those Endearing Young Charms”, by Thomas Moore, ”The Kerry Dances” and “Kitty of Coleraine”. That song as start the race was with a horn blowing called “The Race” by Victor Young.

That was in all three lead motives in the movie, “Isle of Innisfree”, “Wild Colonial Boy” and “The Kerry Dances”.

On harp plays “Isle of Innisfree” and “The Kerry Dances”.

Rest of the song title in “The Quiet Man” is; ”Dreams of Alwyn” by Mr Nobody or ”Isle Of Innisfree”, ”The Wild Colonial Boy”, ”Galway Bay”, ”Humour Is On Me Now”, ”I’ll Take You Home Again Kathleen”, ”The Young May Moon”, ”Mush, Mush, Mush Tural-I-Addy”, plus all special composed melodies by Victor Young.

That only who are named as Danny Boy in this film is that horses Victor McLaglen are riding on in the race scene.

Widow Tillane’s house was named as “Strandhill House” and was owned by the Elwood family before that was purchase and pulled down by the Guinness family. To day is it a parking place to Ashford Castle Golf Club. If I remain it right so is Ms O’Hara a member in that club. I hope I do it.

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When Ford was told by Herb Yates to make his cuts one of the first casualties was at the very begining of the picture when Thonton is arriving on the train. In the opening sequence of the film he is seen getting out of the carriage holding an apple and talking to someone inside. Apparently he was given the apple by a child with the parent after some dialogue but that was cut. he still retained the apple and that part where he says goodbye to the passengers in his carriage.

Regards

Arthur

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SEAN: That's a good grip you have there Danaher, I always hated a flabby handshake myself.

Hi

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MARY KATE Its a bold one you are
SEAN So you can talk
MARY KATE Yes I can I will and I do

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MICHAELEAN: Mister Sean Thornton Bachelor, meet Miss Mary Kate Donaher spinster. Miss Danaher, meet Mister Sean Thornton from Pittsburgh, Massachusetts.

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MARY KATE This is my brother
RED WILL: Leave the room
MARY KATE: But this is...
RED WILL: Leave the room
MARY KATE: Yes Will.

Hi

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Sean and Mary Kate are wed

Hi

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Hi Arther

I don't remember the above picture from the movie.

:agent:

Hi

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MARY KATE: Sean
SEAN: How did you sleep
MARY KATE: Don't be shaming me in front of your friends
SEAN: What Oh. OK

Hi Robbie

There was so much going on at the wedding scene I can't remember if it did or not. Certainly in Des Mchales book he do's'nt mention it.

But I'm glad you're following it.


Regards

Arthur

HI

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RED WILL: How would it be if I put one of me fist
In my pocket. Go on, right or left, now you choose,
now go on: go on, that's fair enough isn't it.

Hi

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SEAN: That breaks all bargains, you can take your sister back,
It's your custom not mine.

Hi

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The fight

Hi

The collage.

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Regards

Arthur

Hi

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Happy ever after

Rregards

Arthur

Hi Arthur. I saw you were written about Pat Cohan Bar for some few year ago. I have some information about that bar. If you look in the film can you see Michaeleen and Sean are going to a door on right side of the store and there was a bar in that building when the movie recording started up in June 6, 1951. I will give one quote from the book The Complete Guide to The Quiet Man.
The jaunting car now pulls up in the front of The Sarfield Arms, the local inn. This name was intended to play a major role in the movie but is never mentioned in the final cut although the sharp-eyed may be to read the name from the swinging sign over the door in the close-up of Sean Thornton. Perhaps this is just another example of Ford’s pruning all political and nationalistic elements from the movie, because Patrick Sarfield was a legendary Irish patriot whose name would have been well known among Irish-Americans. In the move the inn goes by the name PAT COHAN BAR as the sign over the door indicates.
Len

Hi Len

hanks for that. I must say I hadn't heard of Sarfeld but I do now. It's amazing what changes Ford made from the original story and the concept, and the buildings which changed from a grocers to a bar.

Regards

Arthur

Hi Arthur, I can also tell that first pint have not been served in the Cohan Bar yet. One man from The Quiet Man Movie Club toke a ride from Dublin to the city of Cong in last autumn and saw that the windows was painted in white color so maybe the bar will be reopened to June 6 who is a saintly date for a TQM Maniac’s as me.

Regards

Len

I wish it was as easy for us State side folks to " take a ride up to Cong". Maybe someday!

Chester :newyear:

Jim, now you know how we feel about MV and Winterset!!

Hi

it looks like most of the photographs I put on have disappeared. I put all of the photographs on my gallery and transferred copies to the thread. Then I deleted the pictures from the gallery and they disappeared from the thread. Perhaps its a self regulating keeping us down to fifty pictures no matter what. I don't know.


Regards

Arthur

Arthur,
I noiced that yesterday, the only way to make 'em
stick, is 'Go advanced' Click on the 'Inserts'
Load them there, the you can put on more than
one per post

Hi Keith

Thanks for that I'll have to do some experimenting in order to get used to this new fangled thing.:ohmy:


Regards

Arthur

Hi Arthur.
I should like to came with the rest of the Pat Cohan Bar story. So here came more quotes from The Complete Guide to The Quiet Man by Des MacHale. Even this story is a wonderful reading for a TQM Maniac’s like me and Bryan Varnam.
As Sean Thornton and Michaeleen Oge Flynn enter Innisfree to the tune of The Kerry Dances there are many pairs of curious eyes anxious to identify the newly arrived stranger. Here we see one of the many breaks in continuity in The Quiet Man necessitated by Ford’s trimming the footage right down to the bone to satisfy Herb Yates’ demand. In the original screenplay there is a longish contribution at this stage from the narrator Father Lonergan (Ward Bond), which we quote for interest’s sake.
“And so Sean Thornton came home to Inisfree, a peaceful little village, drowsing under the sun, with nothing to disturb its quaint serenity. The old houses, the cobbled streets, the friendly faces, it was all as he had dreamed it. In the square is the centuries-old Celtic cross which has stood unchanged through wars and rebellions, and across from it a well-known hostelry – The Sarsfield Arms, owned and managed by Pat Cohan”.
Michaeleen, pipe in hand, now say to Sean:
“Over here we pronounce it Co-han!” But he is actually answering the narrator in the previous intended version. Michaeleen has reached his promised land too – the bar – and he smilingly enters the hostelry. With a grin on his face, Sean follows him.

Len

Nice Poster,

1456

:smile: Hi Keith. That is an wonderful poster from a wonderful film.
Len

Very nice.:star:

Chester :newyear:

Here are a couple of posters, the second a 1957 re-issue. The second one is the poster used at the El Campanil Theater in Antioch, California last March when The Quiet Man was shown on the big screen.

Thanks Chester that is two of that most wonderful poster I have seen.

Len

Hi

I have both of those. They are about 18" x 12" and would look good framed.

Regards

Arthur

I remember you going to that showing,
and what a great opportunity, to pick
up those lovely posters!

Have you ever watched a film and wished you could somehow be sucked right into it and just live there a while?

This is one of the few films I've ever seen that has made me to feel that.

Tbone you are talking great things I have just that feeling about The Quiet Man but only for a short while.
Len

I was watching my favorite JW film this weekend when a couple of new things came to my mind and I wanted to run them past the members to see if you could answer these questions for me.

The first is in the scene near the end of the movie. The big fight has just broken out and Father Paul is reading from a book to the old man character played by Francis Ford who seems to be on his death bed.

Does anyone know what book it is Father Paul is reading from?

The other question has to do with the horse that pulls the cart that Micheleen Flynn drives in the movie. Any idea as to what type of horse that is?

Thanks for any help you can provide!

There's some discussion back on pages 6 and 7 of this thread.

Chester :newyear:

Oh Gosh, I feel dumb. Guess I should have checked the earlier posts.

Sorry guys!

Don't feel too bad, Tbone, I've made that very same mistake myself. :headbonk:
Chester :newyear:

T-bone I been sorry for your feelings, you shall not feel you dumb for your question. That could have been some new information about your questions and I can tell you all horses in TQM was owned and trained by a man named John Daly and the raise was just that Connemara Pony’s I told about earlier. So there is little more information. But the book have I not some new information about when Maureen O’Hara Magazine Forum have been closed down in February and The Quiet Man Movie Club have been occupied by pornography and we can’t use that more.

I can't remember if this has been mentioned in the last 12 pages, but another blooper is the line said by "Widow Tulane" (Mildred Fenwick) when she stands in the window with Mrs. Playfair watching Sean and the Squire fight. After she says "I hope he beats him senseless" she says "I'm the best man in Innisfree, as if I didn't know it" instead of "He's the best man..." about Squire Dannaher!

Oh, that was not a blooper when widow Tillane only repeat just what Squire Danaher had told in the first Cohan Bar scene.
Len

But that doesn't make sense to say that She is the best man ! Watch how Mrs. Playfair looks at her when she says the line, like she knows that Mildred said the wrong word.

lenrehn,

Thanks for your response. The only thing that had me wondering about the Connemara Pony is that I notice the horse in the movie has feathers and I haven't seen feathers on the hooves of Connemaras I have seen. I wonder if there would be any way to contact John Daly to find out.

But that doesn't make sense to say that She is the best man ! Watch how Mrs. Playfair looks at her when she says the line, like she knows that Mildred said the wrong word.

Dukefan2

You have misunderstood the scene, Mildred was imitating the Squire and Mrs Playfair was looking at her with that expression secretly knowing that despite her protests at the wedding she fancied the Squire.

:agent:

You make me curious so I most check it up in the Quiet Man transcript and here is the lines from the first bar scene. http://www.script-o-rama.com/movie_scripts...cript-john.html
- Sean Thornton, the men of Inisfree bid you welcome home.
- Thank you.
- “And the men of Inisfree bid you welcome home.” What’s wrong with that little speech?
- Oh, you’d be knowing what.
- I’m a man from Inisfree, and the best man. And I bid no welcome to a man fool enough to pay 1000 pounds for a bit of land that isn’t worth 200!

And this is what Widow Tillane and Mrs Playfair is saying in that window scene and that is a reference to that first scene.
- I hope that Thornton beats him senseless.
- He’s a married man, Sarah.
- Who cares about him? It’s that big bully concerns me. “I'm the best man in Inisfree”. As if I didn’t know that.
Len

The Quiet Man... this movie is spectacular in every way, the cinematography, the score, the acting, the script, the scenery and directing. It's a shame that Pappy wasn't really a good person though...

Hi Lt. Brannigan.
For me and many others is The Quiet Man a spectacular piece in every way, the cinematography, the score, the acting, the script, the scenery and directing. You are telling us that Pappy wasn't really a good person though, but don’t forget that nearly all actors loved him and could nearly do anything like go through fire and water for him, like The Duke, Ward Bond, Ms O’Hara, Victor McLaglen, Barry Fitzgerald and his brother Arthur Shields. For me and I hope some more is The Quiet Man the best movie ever made and I love that movie and have translated every scene and line to my language. I have not 106 John Wayne movies but there is something over 65 movies.
Len

Pappy could be a bit of an old Devil but he was a genius filmaker and his heart was in right place.

I think he really needed a good kick up the behind every so often but apart from Duke's introductory football tackle he didnt get too many.


Mike

I am quite aware that all of Pappy's crew would go through hell and back again fro him, but at times from what I have read he abused that a little to much. But then again I would like to point we are only hearing about the type of person he was, well after the fact so it could very well be exaggerated.

He seemed to be a two people at times in that he was capable of great kindness yet he could cut somebody off for years for some remark or imaginatory comment.

Ford was an gifted and talented filmaker but those who stayed with him over the years and experienced his moods must have had their patience tested at times.

Mike

Yeah it must have tested their patience. But I can see why they would remain faithful to the old codger, hell I probably would have been in the same boat as them. He obviously had some type of magnetism going on.

The June 6 1952 was that a Gala Premiere on Adelphi Theatre in Dublin. The movie they show for their audience was just one of the world’s most disused movies and today is that 65 years back in the time. I will reply Father Peter Lonergan. Hip, hip, hurray, hurray, hurray, hurray for Ms O’Hara and the movie

Hi all
I think i have some happy news for a The Quiet Man Maniac about Pat Cohan Bar.
http://www.sabrams.com/photoGallery/galleries/ireland/010_cong/source/ireland_cong_quiet_man_tou_4.htm

lenrehn,

That is good news! Thanks for that update!

Chester :newyear:

Great News!!:teeth_smile: glad to hear domebody has developed common sense


Mike

As I've mentioned elsewhere, occasionally some of the Film Facts duplicate information Keith has shared earlier in the thread. I have found new information in each set of Film Facts I've posted so far, though.

Thanks to Clive Woollands for allowing me to share his Film Facts here at the JWMB!

Here We go then, another Film Fact, this time from one of my very favourites, The Quiet Man.

Producers: Merian C. Cooper, G.B. Forbes, John Ford, L.T. Rossa.
Screenplay: Frank S. Nugent (Original story by Maurice Walsh).
Cinematographer: Winton C. Hoch. Art Director: Frank Hotaling.
Composer: Victor Young. Editor: Jack Murray. Distribution: Republic
Pictures Corporation. Location: County Mayo, Ireland. Cost of
production: $1.75 million. Box office takings (US): $3,800,000. Date
of production: 1951.

The Quiet man was nominated for 7 Oscars. It eventually took home 2 Academy Awards; Best Cinematography for Winton C. Hoch and John Ford's 4th (and last) best director award.

Herbert Yates insisted that the film run no more than 120 minutes, but Ford's cut clocked in at 129 minutes. He screened his cut for Republic Pictures executives; they were enjoying it hugely and just getting ready for the big final fight to start when Ford stopped the film bang on 120 minutes. Ford turned to Yates: "I couldn't figure out how to cut 9 minutes without ruining it, so I figured, what the hell? Why knock myself out? I just cut out the fight and got it down to 120 minutes". Yates got the point. The movie was released as 129 minutes.

The original opening had Sean Thornton chatting to a woman and achild on the train, with the child giving Sean an apple. The scene was cut, but in the finished version Sean is still holding the apple when he gets off the train.

Wayne gives a great performance, but he didn't find it easy. "For nine weeks I was playing straight man to those wonderful characters," he said, "And that's really hard. Wayne's 4 children came with him to Ireland for the shoot. They make an appearance in the finished film. They're the children sitting on the cart with Mary Kate Danaher as she watches the horse race.

Here can you read a short quote from “In the Footstep of The Quiet Man” by Gerry McNee about that production cost in Ireland.

Herbert Yates had agreed a budget of $1,7 million for The Quiet Man but very quickly returned to his old ways, complaining about the script and the casting. Ford, who had worked with the top studios, was becoming more and more exasperated and John Wayne was growing unhappy in the knowledge he had got his friend and mentor involved with someone like Yates.
During pre-production in Hollywood, Yates threw another spanner in the works by summoning Wayne to his office and telling him the film would damage his career. He told Wayne he wanted nothing to do with it and would not be responsible for the consequences. He insisted it was the wrong type of movie for Wayne, even though he knew the part had been specially written with the actor in mind. Yates, who had made part of his fortune from the button industry, tobacco trade and some shrewd dealing on Wall Street passing day his paranoia grew and he convinced himself that Ford had sold him what he constantly referred to as “a phoney arthouse movie.” The drama heightened considerably when Yates, who had sweated over an injection of $1,5 million into Rio Grande, became apoplectic about his latest outlay and went back on his word to Ford. He demanded the budget be trimmed but the director had already cut it to near enough the bone. This prompted the following telegram from Ford to Wayne, who was having his first holiday in years: “After much fuss and feathers, much wrangling, fist-fights and harsh words, the budget is set excepting, of course, for your salary, which you will have to take up when you get back. I’m a nervous wreck.”
But his cherished film was still in danger and Ford turned to his friend Wayne who, after years of battling with Yates, had succeeded in getting a percentage of Republic box-office profits, and asked him to settle a flat fee. Maureen O’Hara recalled: “John Ford asked John Wayne and me to take a cut and because we had all waited for so long and so badly wanted to make the movie, we agreed. John Wayne accepted $100,000 and I got $65,000. I even took down the script in shorthand and typed it as it meant so much to me.”
Len.

Yeah it must have tested their patience. But I can see why they would remain faithful to the old codger, hell I probably would have been in the same boat as them. He obviously had some type of magnetism going on.

When I was in Boot Camp at Parris Island I thought my D.I.s, were sadistic a**holes, after I graduated and got to know them on a personal level they were all great guys.They just developed these very effective alter egos in order to get the job done.

Anyone who has ever been in a management postion can tell you you can't be effective if your being their friends. When you're working you have to be the boss. And remmmmember Boss spelled backward is Double SOB!

Hi all the Quiet Man Maniacs I will give you some photos from Ballyglunin/Castletown railroad station. http://www.ballyglunin.com/
Len

Thanks Len for posting

Best

Mike

Wow what a great idea for Cohan! I will have to go to Ireland someday.

GSP

Hi

Yes I keep telling myself that we will make it to Southern Ireland one day. Its not as if its a million miles away;

Regards

Arthur

Arthur, if you like to go to Quiet Man County so will it be west Ireland in County Mayo and County Galway. That small village Cong is in south County Maya.
Len :hyper:

Hello all

My apologies if this questions have been answered already.
In Reelclasics.com,
"Ford ends THE QUIET MAN with a curtain call acknowledging the film's fine company of character actors and concludes with a shot of Mary Kate whispering SOMETHING in Sean's ear before they run back across the creek and away from the camera toward White O'Morn. The subject of endless speculation, according to O'Hara only Wayne (http://www.reelclassics.com/Actors/Wayne/wayne.htm), Ford (http://www.reelclassics.com/Directors/Ford/ford.htm) and herself know what she whispered. Ford (http://www.reelclassics.com/Directors/Ford/ford.htm) and Wayne (http://www.reelclassics.com/Actors/Wayne/wayne.htm) are both deceased, and O'Hara (http://www.reelclassics.com/Actresses/O'Hara/ohara.htm) says she's not telling."

I would like to know what line Mary Kate whispered to Sean.
Best Wishes,
sanada

The subject of endless speculation, according to O'Hara only Wayne (http://www.reelclassics.com/Actors/Wayne/wayne.htm), Ford (http://www.reelclassics.com/Directors/Ford/ford.htm) and herself know what she whispered. Ford (http://www.reelclassics.com/Directors/Ford/ford.htm) and Wayne (http://www.reelclassics.com/Actors/Wayne/wayne.htm) are both deceased, and O'Hara (http://www.reelclassics.com/Actresses/O%27Hara/ohara.htm) says she's not telling."

I would like to know what line Mary Kate whispered to Sean.
Sanada,

You are in GOOD company, but I am afraid none of us will ever know. Maureen O'Hara, in her autobiography 'Tis Herself, says the secret will die with her. She'll never tell.

Chester :newyear:

Here comes a short quote from CNN Larry King Live 2, an interview with Maureen O'Hara. Aired January 2, 2003 - 21:00 ET. That is not a really answer about what she was whispering to Wayne but that is maybe so close you may come.



KING: Tell me about these commentaries you've been doing for some DVD editions of films. They release a DVD and you appear on it to talk about it, John Wayne kind of movies?
O'HARA: Yes. There's one on "Rio Grande," which was the movie we did to raise the money to make "The Quiet Man," because we couldn't get finance. I think I have told you this before. And also on "The Quiet Man." So there's two DVDs out now. They're pretty good.
KING: I want to talk about John Wayne. We understand you're going to tell us something that you didn't tell us last time about what you whispered to him.
O'HARA: Oh, not on your life.
KING: You're not going to tell it now.
O'HARA: No. Never, never, never.
KING: Last scene of "The Quiet Man" Maureen's character whispers something in the ear of John Wayne's character. Whatever she said apparently shocked Wayne because his head jerked back and his eyes grows wide with disbelief. Wayne never told anyone what she said and John Ford the director never did either.
O'HARA: That was the deal. When John Ford said you are to say so and so To Wayne, I said, what? Me? No way. And he said, you're being ordered to do it. You do it. And I realized it was nothing I could do. When you try to battle with John Ford, you have to give in. And I said, well there's one stipulation. That you will never tell anybody what it is that you demanded that I say. And, John Wayne will never tell. And the three of us made the deal.
KING: So it was (UNINTELLIGIBLE) to what you are. One can imagine it was sexual or cursing or both?
O'HARA: Little bit of both.
KING: And Wayne did not know you were going to say it?
O'HARA: No. Didn't you see the look on his face when he turns around.
KING: That's one of the most famous endings of movies ever, right. So that must have been the question asked of you. That movie was such a big hit.
O'HARA: Everybody asks me. Even my lawyer in New York asked me the day before yesterday. I said I'm tired telling you, never. Duke is dead.
KING: Was it nervous for you to say it?
O'HARA: It was awful. I hated it.
KING: Did you only have to say it once?
O'HARA: Only once. Not twice. Well, you wouldn't get the reaction.

Len

I often reckoned like others that it was along those lines but the great thing is that it upto everyone's imagination to guess what the words were as it will never be revealed.

Mike

On the Flying Trip that I took Duke on back in the 1970s to the Hearst Wyntoon Ranch, and at the Cock-Tail Time at the Old Ranch House, Williiam R. Hearst jr. ask Duke What Maureen had said to Him in the Last Scene of the Film "The Quiet Man" and Duke Said "I can't tell You That, This is Mixed Company, and it would Shock These Ladys !"

Bill Hearst jr. said "Come on Duke We are All Grown-Ups Here and have Heard just about Everything !"

Duke Said "OK but I am going to Clean it up a Little Bit," at that time Even these Fancy Ladys Moved Closer to Duke !

Duke Said " Ford had told Maureen to Say Something in words that Maureen Would Never Say To Me or Anyone Else, Just to Get a Surpised Look on My Face, and Boy it did the Trick. Now I am going to Clean it up a Little."

Maureen Said Someting Like This "Lets Go Back to House and Make Babys !"

Then Duke Said "Now You Put The Bad Word in Yourself Where You Want It? Pappy Sure was a Mean Old Cuss, But He always Got The Job Done !!!"

Chilibill
:cowboy:

chester7777,lenrehn,Dukepilgrim,William T Brooks
Thanks so much all the help you have given me a nice information.
It was very interesting to read JWMB menmber's advices.
JWMB is excellent. I'm looking forward to reading this forum.
Hope discussion on this topic has not stopped.
But William T Brooks got a solusion by Duke. waoh!
In my opinion, John Ford maybe ordered Irish rough joking line to her,
maybe something what William T Brooks concerned.

At any rate,secret is secret.
Like the line"Print the Legend"from Liberty Valance,It's O.K. if Mary Kate
does not want to tell us the truth.

Thanks again,
sanada

Sanada,
Duke was always a Gentleman and would Never Say Any Bad Words in Front Of The Ladys on What Ford Had told Maureen Say !!!
Chilibill
:cowboy:

I have not seen too many people posting in this thread actually say how they would rate this movie. As for me, I have seen it about 10 times over the years and have always liked the cast as well as parts of the movie. Im sorry and will go against the grain and say that it aint one of my top 50 favorite Duke movies. Im not saying its bad but, if this were showing against a Duke Western or War movie, i;d have to choose one of those over this one.

I have not seen too many people posting in this thread actually say how they would rate this movie.
I can tell you that every year, when Hondo does the Top 25 John Wayne Movies survey, The Quiet Man has always been in the top 10, and probably the top 3 or 5, every year, if that's any indication how folks rate it.

Personally, I would give it a 10 out of 10.

Chester :newyear:

That’s right Chester. The Quiet Man is very popular even here in Europe. Hondo is not a bad film but I think TQM is best of all classic movies.
Len

I can tell you that every year, when Hondo does the Top 25 John Wayne Movies survey, The Quiet Man has always been in the top 10, and probably the top 3 or 5, every year, if that's any indication how folks rate it.

Personally, I would give it a 10 out of 10.

Chester :newyear:

Looks like quite a good rating for Q.M. I don't know, maybe I just can't stand romantic movies? Take Pearl Harbor a a good example of what I mean. That movie would have been a much better one, had the romance scenes been shortened or deleted all together.

I know, I know, im (ot) :teeth_smile:

Looks like quite a good rating for Q.M. I don't know, maybe I just can't stand romantic movies? Take Pearl Harbor a a good example of what I mean. That movie would have been a much better one, had the romance scenes been shortened or deleted all together.

I know, I know, im (ot) :teeth_smile:
I agree. I saw Pearl Harbor at the cinema and thought it was overlong and boring. I wasn't a fan of Ben Affleck then. Tora, Tora, Tora! is still a better movie.

Tora Tora Tora and Midway both. Im no Affleck fan but will still watch him in something if tis good enough. But for Quiet Man, I don't know what about it other than the romance, that just does not appeal to me like it does to others. I mean, the Irish countryside is beautiful and all, and the actors were great but, I guess im just so used to Duke in other roles; that make me not like this one so much?

One of my top 5 favorite Duke movies. Period. I'm Irish...I love Guinness.
I absolutely love Mildred Natwick's character, Mrs. Sarah Tillane. She is really great.
Watch her carefully, she steals each scene with her facial expressions alone. I saw her in Alfred Hitchcock's "The Trouble with Harry" over the weekend. Mildred has made it onto my top ten list of actresses between 1939 and 1965 (the year Hollywood stopped being great).

Hi All
What can i say about that Mildred Natwick should have been a scene thief? She made a great performer like all actors did in The Quiet Man. But in this picture was only one person known as a great scene thief and that was Barry Fitzgerald. Look on him in Going My Way
Len

A 17 page thread about "The Quiet Man"? :hyper: "The JWMB has become another word for heaven to me."

Something I've always wondered about: just before the big fight Danaher and the boys are bringing in the hay. But what is that contraption with the fire inside? And why would they want a fire at all? What could they possibly be burning in a meadow full of dry hay? :huh:

Seaneen,

The contraption you ask about is an old fashioned steam tractor. In addition to pulling and plowing, the big wheels on the sides were connected to machines via large belts and used to provide power for operating them. These would be things like bailers and lifts.

You can't tell from the way it's setup in the scene but it's possible they would have had a hay wagon hooked up to the back of it from bringing in hay. There aren't any belts on the wheels so they wouldn't have been using it to power other machinery.

Anyway, that's what it is and welcome to the best board on the web!

A 17 page thread about "The Quiet Man"? :hyper: "The JWMB has become another word for heaven to me."

Something I've always wondered about: just before the big fight Danaher and the boys are bringing in the hay. But what is that contraption with the fire inside? And why would they want a fire at all? What could they possibly be burning in a meadow full of dry hay? :huh:
WELCOME to the John Wayne Message Board, the best of its kind on the 'net!

One great thing about this place is there is almost always someone who has the answer to anyone's questions! A more knowledgeable, friendly bunch you'd be hard pressed to find anywhere.

Don't be a stranger, Seaneen! We look forward to seeing you again - soon!

Chester :newyear: and the Mrs. :angel1:

Hi Seaneen

Welcome to the board from one Quiet Man fan to another.

Regards

Arthur

Seaneen,

The contraption you ask about is an old fashioned steam tractor. In addition to pulling and plowing, the big wheels on the sides were connected to machines via large belts and used to provide power for operating them. These would be things like bailers and lifts.

You can't tell from the way it's setup in the scene but it's possible they would have had a hay wagon hooked up to the back of it from bringing in hay. There aren't any belts on the wheels so they wouldn't have been using it to power other machinery.


Ah! I remember as a little kid - a very little kid - my uncles tilting the hay trailer up and making the horse back up quickly to scoop the haystack -- what did they call it? It wasn't a stack. I forget now -- while they used a robe around the stack to pull it up onto the trailer.

A few years later, using the lifter on the back of the tractor was much easier. :shades_smile:

And these days it seems it's all silage.

Thanks, Tbone.

And thank you, Chester and the Mrs and Arthur for the welcome.

Ah, horses, hay and wagons! There's heaven!

Seaneen, please forgive me for not first welcoming you to the site! The Quiet Man is my favorite Duke film. Some day I hope to be able to go back to the Old Sod and see if I can find anything of my family.

Well anyway a belated welcome and enjoy your ride!

I agree. The Quiet Man is my favorite Duke film, what with my being Irish and loving Guinness and all that.

I realize this is old news (pre-JWMB), but I found it interesting because of the John Wayne connection -

Brosnan To Marry In "Quiet Man" Church
10 July 2001 (WENN)
James Bond star Pierce Brosnan is to marry fiancee Keely Shaye Smith in an Irish church that featured in the 1951 John Wayne movie "The Quiet Man". The Roman Catholic ceremony will take place next month at St Mary's Church in Cong, in western Ireland. The reception will then be held in the grounds of the exclusive Ashford Castle Hotel. Widower Brosnan, 49, twice postponed the wedding last year after his teenage son Sean suffered spinal injuries in a traffic accident. The Goldeneye star has also reportedly signed a six-figure deal with British magazine Hello! for the photographic rights to the wedding.

I have heard there is a tour you can go on covering the Quiet Man film locations, might be worth looking into

John,

From a cost standpoint, is it reasonable to go on holiday in Ireland? Is the travel time short enough? Is it something your whole family would enjoy?

For me, I'm in the same country as the Alamo, but 3-4 days drive away, or plane fare for the whole family to see someplace that might not hold the same interest for all in the group (like a trip to Hawaii would, or a trip to NY to visit the wife's family).

Needless to say, there are many things in our country that I have not seen, that I would like to. Nothing that winning the lottery wouldn't cure :teeth_smile:!

Chester :newyear:

We could go on a weekend break for around £100, cheaper for us to take car over on the ferry then book in a B & B

I just finished watching The Quiet Man again - what other movie would I be watching on St. Patrick's Day?

Something has got to be done to fix the master print of the film. I watched the DVD and the shadows are so dark there's nothing to see. The scene in the church where Sean meets Mary Kate looks like it was filmed in the dead of night.

Pity, we english do not pay much attention to Saint Georges Day ???