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ethanedwards
January 22nd, 2006, 04:39 AM
IN HARMS WAY

PRODUCED AND DIRECTED BY OTTO PREMINGER
MUSIC BY JERRY GOLDSMITH
AN OTTO PREMINGER FILM
PARAMOUNT PICTURES

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INFORMATION FROM IMDb

Plot Summary
Captain Rockwell Torrey and Commander Paul Eddington
are part of the Navy's effort to recuperate from, and retaliate for,
the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor.
Torrey is romantically involved with nurse Maggie Haynes,
and also tries to restore his relationship with his estranged son,
Jeremiah, a young Naval officer.
Summary written by Jim Beaver.

Full Cast
John Wayne .... Capt. Rockwell Torrey
Kirk Douglas .... Eddington
Patricia Neal .... Maggie
Tom Tryon .... Mac
Paula Prentiss .... Bev
Brandon De Wilde .... Jere
Jill Haworth .... Annalee
Dana Andrews .... Admiral Broderick
Stanley Holloway .... Clayton Canfil
Burgess Meredith .... Commander Egan Powell
Franchot Tone .... CINCPAC1
Patrick O'Neal .... Commander Neal Owynn
Carroll O'Connor .... Lt. Commander Burke
Slim Pickens .... C.P.O Culpepper
James Mitchum .... Ensign Griggs
George Kennedy .... Colonel Gregory
Bruce Cabot .... Quartermaster Quoddy
Barbara Bouchet .... Liz Eddington
Tod Andrews .... Captain Tuthill
Larry Hagman .... Lt. J.G. Cline
Stewart Moss .... Ensign Balch
Richard LePore .... Lt. J.G. Tom Agar (as Richard Le Pore)
Chet Stratton .... Ship's doctor
Soo Yong .... Tearful woman
Dort Clark .... Boston
Phil Mattingly .... PT Boat skipper
Henry Fonda .... CINCPAC II
Yankee Chang .... Mortuary clerk (uncredited)
Christopher George .... Sailor (uncredited)
Jerry Goldsmith .... Piano player (uncredited)
Christian Haren .... (uncredited)
Don McCurry .... Extra (uncredited)
Hugh O'Brian .... U.S. Army Air Corps major (Liz Eddington's lover) (uncredited)

Writing Credits
James Bassett novel Harm's Way
Wendell Mayes

Cinematography
Loyal Griggs

Stunts
Paula Dell .... stunts (uncredited)
Bob Herron .... stunts (uncredited)
John Indrisano .... stunts (uncredited)
Loren Janes .... stunts (uncredited)
Hal Needham .... stunts (uncredited)
Ronnie Rondell Jr. .... stunts (uncredited)
Dean Smith .... stunts (uncredited)

Trivia
The naval battle sequences were done with models that were so large in scale (for the sake of greater detail) that they could be operated from the inside.

Cameo: [Jerry Goldsmith] Early in the film, prior to the Pearl Harbor attack, the composer can be seen as the pianist signaling the orchestra to stop playing.

Until recently Adms. Kimmell and Nimitz were identified in the credits simply as CINCPAC1 and CINCPAC2. Neither of them is referred to by name in the movie and any reference to them is always as 'CINCPAC'.

During the filming, Kirk Douglas sponsored a Yom Kippur service for the Jewish naval personnel being used as extras in the film.

The Cruiser used for filming was the USS Saint Paul (CA-73).

Kirk Douglas wrote that John Wayne wanted him for the role of Commander (later Captain) Eddington. Douglas was surprised as they did not know each other and did not socialize, and their political opinions were very different. Nonetheless, the collaboration was a success and the two later co-starred in The War Wagon (1967) and Wayne had a cameo in Douglas' ode to Israel, Cast a Giant Shadow (1966).

Henry Fonda, who plays the second Commander-in-Chief-PacificFleet (CINCPAC II), was actually a naval veteran of World War II who served in the Pacific Theater. After making The Ox-Bow Incident (1943), Fonda enlisted in the Navy to fight in World War II, saying, "I don't want to be in a fake war in a studio." He served in the Navy for three years, as a Quartermaster 3rd Class on the destroyer USS Satterlee, then, after receiving a commissioned as Lieutenant Junior Grade (O-2) in Air Combat Intelligence. For his service, he won the Bronze Star, the fourth highest award for bravery or meritorious service in conflict with the enemy. Fonda later reprised the role of CINCPAC in the docudrama Battle of Midway (1976), where the character was identified as Adm. Chester Nimitz.

John Wayne was suffering from lung cancer and by the end of filming he was coughing up blood. Two months after filming ended his entire left lung and several ribs were removed.

In addition to John Wayne, Franchot Tone was also suffering from lung cancer during filming.

The escape of a destroyer from the Pearl Harbor attack with only junior officers aboard is based on the action of the USS Aylwin (DD-355).

The film's title comes from a quote by Revolutionary War captain John Paul Jones: "I wish to have no connection with any ship that does not sail fast, for I intend to go in harm's way."

The fictional ship in the movie is a composite of several WWII cruisers. 1. The USS Salt Lake City was known as the "Swayback Maru". The ship in the movie and in the novel the movie is based on was known as "Old Swayback". 2. The USS San Francisco was the flagship of a squadron of ships in the famous naval battle of November 12, 1942, in the Solomon Islands area. The fictional ship in the movie was also the flagship of a squadron of ships in an important naval battle. 3. The two ships mentioned above survived WWII. The fictional ship in the movie was sunk, so it could also be based on any US Navy cruiser that was sunk during the Solomon Islands campaign.

The islands identified by Torrey as Gavabutu, Levu Vana and Tokaroa are actually San Cristobal, Guadalcanal and Malaita. Pala Passage would become known as Ironbottom Sound because of the number of ships that would be sunk there in coming battles. Cape Titan probably refers to the Japanese base at Rabaul on New Britain, about 650 miles from Guadalcanal. The battle for Guadalcanal began on 7 Aug., 1942 and would not end until February, 1943. Although they say that the majority of forces are with MacArthur in the Solomons, Guadalcanal, is in the eastern Solomons. The dividing line between MacArthur's area of responsibility and Nimitz's was the 159 degrees east.

According to John Huston's autobiography, this is the movie that nearly drove Tom Tryon out of the acting business. He had heard rumors of Otto Preminger's demanding nature, and was understandably nervous. Preminger saw this, and instead of trying to reassure the agitated Tryon, first chewed him out for his fears in front of other cast members, then walked behind him and screamed "RELAX!" in his ear. Tryon reportedly almost quit that day, but castmates talked him out of it.

The original Clemson-class destroyer DD-298 was the USS Percival (commissioned 1920, decommissioned 1930). Its first commander was Commander Raymond A. Spruance who lead the 5th Fleet in WWII.

Goofs
* Anachronisms: Features a US Navy Albatross, not built until after the end of WW II.

* Crew or equipment visible: When Torrey says goodbye to his son, one of the 1952 GMC trucks belonging to the production company can be seen in the background.

* Anachronisms: M-151 "Jeep"-type vehicles used in many scenes were from the 1960s not 1940s. Note horizontal grill bars. The M151 MUTT was the successor to the Korean War M38 and M38A1 jeep Light Utility Vehicles and was produced from 1959 through 1982.

* Anachronisms: Powell drives a 1946 Ford convertible in 1941.

* Factual errors: CAPT. Eddington, while flying over the Japanese Battleship Yamato, states that "she's got twelve (12) big guns" while in the WWII combat footage shown, the Yamato and her nine (9) 18" guns can be seen clearly.

* Factual errors: They refer to the Naval Academy as "Campus" when in fact it is referred to as the "Yard".

* Continuity: Early in the movie while Liz Eddington and her lover are fleeing the Japanese attack in his Lincoln convertible, they crash into a truck and leave the road in flames and the Lincoln changes into a Ford.

* Continuity: At the meeting in the bomb shelter, Clayton Canfil changes position between shots.

* Continuity: When Captain Paul Eddington absconds with the long range bomber to scout out the Japanese, he scrambles into the plan leaving the entry door open, hanging down. There is no one to close the door, and Eddington leaves seconds later with the entry door closed.

* Revealing mistakes: When Torrey throws a note from the R4D (DC-3 Dakota) to the Para Marines and Canfil on the island, the streamer points into the wind, in the direction of travel of the aircraft, not away from it.

* Anachronisms: Mrs. MacConnell tells her husband, "Mac, you've got that brainwashed look again." The term "brainwashing" wasn't used until the POW scandals of the Korean War.

* Factual errors: In the beginning Captain Torey sends a radio message to Pearl requesting a tanker to refuel his battle group. Anyone in the Navy would call a ship that does refueling an "Oiler".

* Miscellaneous: When McConnel's destroyer is getting ready to get underway during the Pearl Harbor attack, the engineering officer says "cut in all burners, release jacking gear" - but this is erroneously stated on the subtitles as "checking gear".

* Anachronisms: The "Powell-Hyde" cable car prominently featured is the present day Powell Street style of car that was running on the route in the 1960s when the film was made, but not in the 1940s at the time of the story. At that time both the style of the cars and the routing was different. California Street RR Company style cars ran on Hyde via the O'Farrell and Jones Street route.

* Anachronisms: Nearly all female characters in the film wear popular and current 1965 clothing and hairstyles.

* Continuity: The Japanese submarine in the Pearl Harbor attack changes appearance radically between shots - different models - at 0:23:16 and 0:23:54.

* Boom mic visible: In the scene in the quonset hut when Admiral Torrey receives the phone call from Powell about Eddington's reconnaissance flight, the shadow of a mike boom can be seen on the wall to Torrey's left.

* Factual errors: The model of the Yamato has its 6-inch secondary guns in double-barreled turrets. The real Yamato's 6-inch guns were in triple-barreled turrets.

* Factual errors: During the surface battle, Torrey and his staff are all without life jackets or helmets. When at general quarters, battle stations, all topside personnel, those not in the enclosed compartments below the main deck, would be wearing life jackets. Almost all personnel would be wearing helmets.

* Errors made by characters (possibly deliberate errors by the filmmakers): When Eddington takes the PBJ to scout the Japanese fleet, he sits in the right hand seat. The pilot of a fixed wing aircraft always sits in the left hand seat when the seats are side by side. This even applies to student pilots. The instructor will fly right seat.

* Revealing mistakes: Torrey's first task force is referred to as a "bat blind" group with no radar, yet as the destroyer commanded by Mac McConnell leaves Pearl Harbor you can plainly see a radar dish on her mast.

* Boom mic visible: (01:53:20) When Ensign Annalee Dorne (Jill Haworth) and Captain Paul Eddington (Kirk Douglas) break away from the beach party she goes over a short rise in the beach, as he pursues her and calls out to her, "Hey Dorn!", you can see the shadow of a boom mic in the sand.

* Factual errors: The cruiser used in the beginning of the movie, U.S.S. St. Paul CA-73, did not enter service until 1945. It had twin 3" gun mounts in place of quad 40mm by the time the movie was filmed. Also the 3" has radar dishes clearly visible on each mount.

* Factual errors: The action takes place in the Solomon Islands, though they are renamed. The IJN Yamato, never ventured into the Solomon's due to fuel consumption issues. Also, it was not until 1944 that the IJN Yamato fired her guns in combat.

* Anachronisms: As the paratroop assault launches, an M-38A1 jeep can be seen moving on the runway. The M-38 (&A1) series was not produced until 1950.

* Continuity: In the opening scene at the Navy dance, a bra strap can be seen across Liz Eddington's back as her dress opens up but as she takes off her dress at the beach, she is wearing no bra.

* Audio/visual unsynchronized: When Torrey is leaving Maggie's house, he says "Thank you, Maggie" but his lips don't move.

* Factual errors: When Eddington is killed and his plane is shot down, Admiral Torrey and the other officers present on base listening to his transmissions can hear the sounds of the plane's destruction coming through the radio on the plane. While this would be electronically possible, it is highly unlikely because Eddington or some other force would have to be holding the button on the microphone down to be transmitting a signal.

* Factual errors: John Wayne's character makes a comment to Burgess Meredith's character about his marrying three Hollywood actresses. In reality, the man upon whom Meredith's character was based, Rear Admiral Gene Markey, USNR did not marry the third actress, Myrna Loy, until January, 1946 - four months after World War II had ended.

* Revealing mistakes: When the boatswain's mate orders, "On deck, attention to port," the water in the background can be seen moving as if the ship (which has just anchored) is underway.

* Factual errors: At the formalities bestowing Admiral Rank on Capt. Torrey, Admiral Nimitz said "After the formalities of the ceremonies peter out, join Egan and me." Admiral Torrey was briefed and then Adm Nimitz handed him is old 2 stars for the collar, and said, "If there was any luck in them, you're gonna need it." Torrey thanked him and then standing, still within his "zone" (to Adm. Nimitz) merely turned and left. In practice, this would never happen. Adm. Torrey would have taken one step rearward still facing Adm. Nimitz, came to attention, and then been "dismissed," which may have been an understood dismissed and not spoken, but no lower ranking officer ever leaves the presence of a higher rank without paying proper respect to the higher rank, i.e. Admiral Torrey to Admiral Nimitz with exchange of salutes.

* Anachronisms: When morgue attendant is asked by Eddington to see the man that she was bought in with he says that the air force picked it by three days ago at that time it was the known as the army corps.

* Continuity: In the scene where Eddington takes the reconnaissance plane, it is given to him with a machine gun clearly visible extending from the nose. In later shots of the plane in flight, it is gone.

* Continuity: When Eddington's plane is shot down, the left wing is blown off and the plane is on fire. In the next shot, the fire is clearly coming from Eddington's right.

* Boom mic visible: In the very opening scene at the dance, a boom mic shadow is clearly visible panning over the officers' hats.

* Boom mic visible: When Capt. Torrey walks Eddington from the brig to the duty launch, a boom mic shadow is very clearly seen on Kirk Douglas and the background behind him.

* Crew or equipment visible: When Torrey visits his son on the PT Boat, there is a "gun crew" in the background, but the gun nor any of the "men" ever move at all. This exact same "crew" is seen actually moving in the Torrey/Eddington scene after leaving the brig.

* Errors made by characters (possibly deliberate errors by the filmmakers): After Eddington identifies the Yamato, Mac refers to it as an 80,000-ton vessel. At this point in the war, U.S. intelligence had only suspicions of the Yamato's existence; even when its presence in the Pacific was confirmed, it was believed to be a 40,000-ton ship and its actual full load was just shy of 73,000 tons.

* Revealing mistakes: As the Cassidy is attacking the sub in the beginning of the film, we are given what is supposed to be Eddington's viewpoint through binoculars on the cruiser. The "view" we see is, however, clearly taken from an aircraft.

* Continuity: When the 'Cassiday' is starting her run from Pearl Harbor during the attack, her stern depth charge racks are empty. Yet several minutes later when the captain and exec are astern trying to catch up, the stern depth charge racks are full.

* Factual errors: John Wayne's character was promoted to Rear Admiral lower half who should wear a single star, yet he is seen later wearing two stars.

* Revealing mistakes: SPOILER: In the hospital ship approaching Pearl Harbor, Rockwell Torrey is told that he had been asleep for almost three weeks. If this was the case, he would have been totally dependent upon intravenous feeding, yet there were no IV lines anywhere in sight.

Memorable Quotes (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0059309/quotes)

Filming Locations
Hawaii, USA
Hell's Half Acre District, Honolulu, O'ahu, Hawaii, USA
San Diego, California, USA
San Francisco, California, USA

Watch this Trailer

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Previous discussion:-
In Harm's Way (http://www.dukewayne.com/showthread.php?t=1666)

ethanedwards
January 22nd, 2006, 04:40 AM
In Harm's Way is a 1965 American epic war film
produced and directed by Otto Preminger
and starring John Wayne, Kirk Douglas, Patricia Neal,
Tom Tryon, Paula Prentiss, Stanley Holloway,
Burgess Meredith, Brandon deWilde, Jill Haworth,
Dana Andrews, and Henry Fonda.

It was the last black-and-white World War II epic
and the last black-and-white John Wayne film.
It received a mixed response over the years
as a war story that had a simple story,
a charge leveled against Preminger's later movies, starting with this one.
The screenplay was written by Wendell Mayes
based on the novel Harm's Way by James Bassett.

The film recounts the lives of several US naval officers and their wives or lovers
while based in Hawaii as the US involvement in World War II begins.
The title of the film comes from a quote from American Revolutionary
naval hero John Paul Jones:
"I wish to have no connection with any ship that does not sail fast,
for I intend to go in harm's way."

I enjoyed this film and thought the casting of the main parts was excellent.
Although, not bosom friends, Duke and Kirk acted well together,as so did,
Patricia Neal. whilst Henry Fonda, would always make a good Admiral..

The only thing that spoils this film, and Kirk went to great lengths
to point out, was the use of the mock model battle, at the end.
At best, they could have tried the real thing, at worst they could have left
it out altogether.

Either of those two options, would have been better, then what we got!!
When you think a crew of 40, spent one month, and $1million
recording that scene, which lasts only 5 minutes, it makes you shudder!!


User Review

"a mother lovin' gut busting navy war."
17 November 2006 | by bkoganbing (Buffalo, New York)

I've always felt that in these big budget all star epics, the trick is to give each of the star a role of substance as small as the part might be sometimes. That's one of the best things about In Harm's Way, Otto Preminger cast this film with a whole lot of big movie names and each one of them made their presence felt.

Case in point the three admirals played by Franchot Tone, Dana Andrews, and Henry Fonda. All three are very different type men. Tone is a man knowing he'll be sitting the war out because it was on his watch that the Pearl Harbor attack occurred. He's not bitter, he knows that's how things work in the navy. Dana Andrews is a publicity conscious admiral who employs the unctuous Patrick O'Neal in that regard. Henry Fonda plays the second commander in chief of the Pacific, Chester Nimitz in all but name. Oddly enough Fonda would play Nimitz again and by name in the film Midway a decade later. All three of these men make a deep impression on the audience despite having limited roles.

I'm sure that when Otto Preminger was casting In Harm's Way he must have seen Operation Pacific and saw the easy chemistry that John Wayne and Patricia Neal had 14 years earlier. Playing older and wiser versions of themselves from the previous film, Wayne and Neal show love ain't just for the young.

In Harm's Way has the Duke as a father figure for the first time. As Rockwell Torrey, the rock of ages as Kirk Douglas calls him, in addition to the Pacific War he takes on a whole lot of people's problems and they look to him for advice and comfort. In addition to his biological son Brandon DeWilde, the Duke also deals with Kirk Douglas and his problem concerning his tramp of a wife and the problems of young Lieutenant j.g. Tom Tryon and his wife Paula Prentiss.

One of my favorite John Wayne scenes is with Prentiss as he brings her the news about Tryon being missing in action. It is so well done from both players I'm still moved after having seen In Harm's Way a dozen times or more.

Acting honors however may go to Kirk Douglas as Wayne's chief aide who has the most complex role in the film. Douglas runs the gamut of emotions as he does in so many of his roles, from naval hero to maniacal rapist. Douglas actually hopes the war coming will help him put his personal problems on a back burner. For a while and it does, but only temporarily.

Another favorite I have here is Patrick O'Neal who if there is a villain other than the Japanese, he's it. He's a smarmy former Congressman who's looking as the war as a series of photo ops and is already planning his post war political career. O'Neal's not above jeopardizing a naval operation for the sake of a little publicity for his boss Dana Andrews. His confrontation with Kirk Douglas in the latrine is a classic.

In Harm's Way is a skilled blend of war drama and soap opera in the best sense of that term. It can be enjoyed and appreciated by fans of both.

SXViper
January 22nd, 2006, 04:01 PM
Yes, the models were cheesy. But the rest of the film worked so well because the cast was perfect in just about every role. I enjoyed Burgess Meredith's role the most, next to Duke's of course. And George Kennedy was fun to watch as the marine in charge of the paratroopers. Not historically accurate but still a good movie.

WaynamoJim
January 22nd, 2006, 07:43 PM
Got a little bit of trivia for you regarding this movie. In the scenes with Barbra Bouchet as Liz Eddington and Hugh O'Brian as the flyer, when they go to the beach and remove their clothes, Playboy magaizine back then had a little pictorial of that and it showed much more than you saw in the movie. Let's just say Miss Bouchet was rather well endowed.

SXViper
January 23rd, 2006, 10:00 AM
Originally posted by WaynamoJim@Jan 22 2006, 08:43 PM
Got a little bit of trivia for you regarding this movie. In the scenes with Barbra Bouchet as Liz Eddington and Hugh O'Brian as the flyer, when they go to the beach and remove their clothes, Playboy magaizine back then had a little pictorial of that and it showed much more than you saw in the movie. Let's just say Miss Bouchet was rather well endowed.

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You have the pics from that issue? :wub: :wub: :lol: :lol:

J/K!!!

Jay J. Foraker
January 23rd, 2006, 03:52 PM
Originally posted by SXViper@Jan 22 2006, 05:01 PM
Yes, the models were cheesy. But the rest of the film worked so well because the cast was perfect in just about every role. I enjoyed Burgess Meredith's role the most, next to Duke's of course. And George Kennedy was fun to watch as the marine in charge of the paratroopers. Not historically accurate but still a good movie.

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I agree with Viper's observations. Yeah, the models left a lot to be desired. Burgess Meredith was a delight. Stanley Holloway as the Australian coast watcher was a hoot!
Of course, this was a work of fiction, but factual elements should be adhered to.
The beginning with Barbara Bouchet and Hugh O'Brian being shot at by Japanese planes, causing the car to go over the cliff, was not historically accurate - no civilians were attacked by the Japanese - they concentrated strickly on military targets.
In all, this remains one of my favorite John Wayne non-westerns.
Cheers - Jay :D

ethanedwards
January 24th, 2006, 06:07 AM
Memorable Quotes

There are many, many for this film, I have included a few, but click on
the link below, for the rest:-

Commander Paul Eddington: Old Rock of Ages, we've got ourselves another war. A gut bustin', mother-lovin' Navy war.

Captain Rockwell Torrey: In case it slipped your mind, it's gunnery stations at 0830.

Captain Rockwell Torrey: We both know what's eating you, Paul. You can't wash it out with booze.

Captain Rockwell Torrey: Paul, you're forcing me to throw my weight at you. Fish, or cut bait. Get on your feet or take your troubles elsewhere. I've got a ship to run.

Captain Rockwell Torrey: If you can hold a razor in that hand, you might shave before you come topside.
Commander Paul Eddington: Aye, aye, Father Torrey.

LTJG 'Mac' McConnel: Let's crawl back into a uniform. You make us look like a bunch of pirates.

INFORMATION IMDb

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0059309/quotes

ejgreen77
January 29th, 2006, 01:11 PM
Originally posted by ejgreen77+Nov 28 2005, 09:45 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(ejgreen77 @ Nov 28 2005, 09:45 PM)</div>
Duke's costar was Kirk Douglas, one of the biggest stars of the post-WWII era. Even though they were miles apart personally and politically, Wayne and Douglas had strong chemistry together; in all three of their films they played off of each other very well. Duke also flexed his acting muscles in this one, Douglas said in his autobiography that this was the first time he had worked with Wayne, and that he was very impressed by the Duke's acting ability.

I wrote a review of this movie a while ago for IMdB. If anyone's interested in reading it, you can find it at:

http://us.imdb.com/user/ur4059131/comments

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<!--QuoteBegin-ejgreen77@Nov 29 2005, 03:34 PM
If you ever read Kirk Douglas' autobiography, you'll see he agreed with you on Preminger's directing. He said that (in his opinion) Preminger was a good producer, but not a very good director (Preminger's two Academy-award nominations notwithstanding). I would tend to agree, but for a Preminger film, I find this to be a good one. Yes, Otto did put in a good bit of "adult" themes and scenes, but unlike many of his other films (Advise and Consent comes immediately to mind) in this one he did a much better job of working them into the storyline. But, that's just my opinion.

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I posted this about In Harms Way on another thread a few months ago.

E.J.

Senta
January 29th, 2006, 10:50 PM
Hi Ejgreen,
Your comments are mighty interesting. I read your other comments too. One about Dark Command. May be it is off topic, but You mention Santa Fe Trail (I didn't think before that both films came the same year). But you didn't speak much about comparison and what you mean. May be you add a few words about that here.
I myself like Santa Fe trail.
Regards,
Senta :rolleyes:

ejgreen77
January 30th, 2006, 04:12 PM
Senta,

Well, we probably don't want to get too far off topic here. Maybe ethanedwards can set up a new thread for Dark Command soon so we can discuss it there.

I'm glad you liked my reviews. I'd do more of them if I had more time. You should also check out the IMDb reviews of my fellow Buffalonian bkoganbing. He's a fan of JW as well and has written many good reviews of the Duke's films at:

http://us.imdb.com/user/ur2483625/comments

ethanedwards
January 30th, 2006, 04:50 PM
Hi ejgreen77,
Thanks, I'll post that one, for you.

Best Wishes,

chester7777
February 4th, 2006, 12:59 AM
While I thought the movie was very good, I did feel it had a few weak spots, such as the battle at Pearl Harbor, some of the scenes of Japanese ships going through the ocean, and Kirk Douglas' character (a real jerk! :angry: ).

The most enjoyable memory I have of this movie was the interaction between Patricia Neal and JW. The movie gave the appearance that they were made for each other.

Both Deep Discount DVD (http://search.deepdiscountdvd.com/search?p=Q&ts=custom&w=in+harms+way&search.x=0&search.y=0) and Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00005ASGD/ref=pd_sr_ec_ir_d/103-2966141-4147854?n=130) have this movie, for about the same reasonable price.

Chester :newyear:

ethanedwards
February 6th, 2006, 04:27 AM
Hi,
I have been researching all the threads, back to the start of the JWMB,
looking for previous discussion, relating to the movies.
I have found the following, comments, and have copied them here,
so that they are now under one forum:-

In Defense Of "in Harm's Way", No, not our pal here at DukeWayne.com...

Cole Thornton
post Jul 8 2005, 03:25 PM

...He can defend himself just fine thank you, I'm talking about the movie.

I've always liked the 1965 Otto Preminger-directed film. But the critics never seemed to warm up to it. I think that it has many good things going for it:

1) All-Star Cast: Besides the Duke, there's a slew of my favorite actors, Kirk Douglas as the tomented Paul Eddington, Burgess Meredith as fun-loving Egan Powell, Dana Andrews as the George B. McClellan of the Pacific Theatre, the tragic-fated Brandon DeWilde (who died in a car accident in 1973), George Kennedy (two years away from his Oscar win), Paula Prentiss (who was everywhere in the mid 1960s), Larry Hagman in a bit part, the wonderful Patricia Neal (good as Duke's love interest; and an Oscar winner for 1963's "Hud."), Patrick O'Neal as slimy, opportunistic officer and former US congressman. Plus Slim Pickens, Carroll O'Connor and a bunch of other people...

2) Great Music: Composer Jerry Goldsmith ("Patton", "Star Trek", "The Omen") has a fine music score here and even has a cameo at the beginning during the opening sequence.

3) Soap Opera Plot: Lots of sub-plots and all are pretty interesting, though they could have developed the Prentiss plot a little more. The performances are so engaging and I stayed interested.

4) B&W Photography: Crisp, clear and well-shot. Sure, there were the toy boat battle scenes, but who cares?

5) The Duke: As Rockwell Torrey, JW is the foundation of this movie, he is truly legendary in the role. Not bad for a guy who never even served, eh? Even Otto Preminger didn't boss him around!

Yes, the film has it's weak points (the young nurse is so obviously British and cannot hide her accent), the effects aren't spectacular (this is more of a character study anyway) and the ending is a downer, to be sure, but I watch "In Harm's Way" frequently and it's a fast way to pass three hours. The DVD is good quality and I count it as one of my top five John Wayne movies.

Your thoughts?

smokey*
post Jul 8 2005, 03:41 PM

i too like in harms way and i find it a good watch. i dont find the ending such a bummer as you because for a man who was sat behind a desk because he did his duty just after the attack on pearl who then went on to lead the men under his command to a victory admittly with great losses to be informed by the character played by henry fonda that he was going back state side to get a wooden peg attached so that he could come back and help lead them to victory at the helm of his warship even with his pegleg. and another thing that i liked was that the bloke who was incharge of the ship that gave him a tow in the beginning was also the one who saved him in the end which gave it a nice feeling ending

cheers smokey

Jay J. Foraker*
post Jul 8 2005, 03:55 PM

I've always liked "In Harm's Way," mainly because it is a character study set against the activities of WWII in the Pacific, which keeps the story from being mired into an overdone soap opera. I agree with Smokey that the ending is not a downer. It has the effect of saying "onward and upward" and could have actually led to an "In Harm's Way, Part II," if the producers had the mind-set of modern-day thinking. ^_^
Cheers - Jay :D

SXViper
post Jul 8 2005, 04:32 PM

I agree with the above posts. I thourghly enjoy the movie and would also put it into my top 5-7 movies all time for Duke.

I especially liked Burgess Meredith's role. Not that it was a great performance or anything but, I just liked him in that type of role. Also Kirk Douglas was excellent and I don't think there could of been another actor that could have pulled off the performance that Kirk did. Excellent movie and about the only pitfall that I can see was the "toy boat" battle scences.

arthurarnell*
post Jul 8 2005, 04:41 PM

Hi
I liked Tom Tryon he made some reasonable pictures. Apparantly he fell foul of Otto Preminger and was treated terribly. Kirk Douglas recounts in his book how he had to stand up to Preminger to avoid being treated the same.
The strange thing is that Preminger hired Tryon later to appear in a major role in the Cardinal.

Regards
Arthur

Cole Thornton
post Jul 8 2005, 05:02 PM

QUOTE(Jay J. Foraker @ Jul 8 2005, 10:55 AM)
I've always liked "In Harm's Way," mainly because it is a character study set against the activities of WWII in the Pacific, which keeps the story from being mired into an overdone soap opera.* I agree with Smokey that the ending is not a downer.* It has the effect of saying "onward and upward" and could have actually led to an "In Harm's Way, Part II," if the producers had the mind-set of modern-day thinking.* ^_^
Cheers - Jay* :D
*

I agree, Jay. I have long wanted to write a fanfic sequel to IHW because I like the characters so much. I would also like to scratch out a prequel, to focus on the characters like Eddington, Broderick et al. I guess I overstated the "downer" aspect of the ending, since Duke does get the girl and while he lost his son in combat, he had reconciled with him and both men knew that.

As for the music once again, I particularly love "The Rock" theme for Duke, especially the subdued version of it as he looks at the photot of the young Jerr. Also, the tormented theme as Kirk walks along the street after going to the morgue to identify his wife. I can't say enough about Goldsmith's music.

arthurarnell*
post Jul 9 2005, 08:24 AM

Hi Cole

If you like the music from In Harm's Way it's available on the Silva Screen CD True Grit Music From the Classic Films of John Wayn its played by the City of Prague Philharmonic

Regards

Arthur

Cole Thornton
post Jul 9 2005, 01:09 PM

I have a lot of the scores listed above, and I have seen the Silva Screen "Hollywood Goes To War", which has a decent version of "The Rock" theme. "Police Story" is indeed a fine theme. I was lucky enough to get the (very rare) original soundtrack for Christmas and the funky underscore works wonders while driving. Reminds me of so many things about 1970s cop shows, like rooftop chases and very big cars!

InHarmsWay*
post Jul 11 2005, 12:25 AM

I myself can safely say this is in the top 3 of favorite Duke movies.The cast was just amazing, Tom tyron and Brandon de Wilde BOTH impressed me alot, I would have liked to see him appear in more movies with the Duke.Te Duke couldnt have asked for a better supporting cast, a large list of stars and they clicked and did very well together.
I really liked the ending, as someone said...seeing the Duke rise from a captain of an old heavy cruiser, to routing convoys and then to commanding "sky hook" and then in the end, in the end, fonda telling him he will be on the desk of a ship in command of a task force...and maggie not leaving rocks side,and of course we see mac again.
I guess a fact of war is death, and right at the end there - there was so many key characters killed off such as eddington,jere,annalee,egan,burke,tuttle etc.
Ive seen the movie perhaps 40-50times and it the time goes by so fast when I watch it, and each time you notice small tings each time you watch it.
About a sequal to this, yes they should have done one I believe it could have been half decent, would like to see the next range of events and the war's end.(The dukes battles..a possible marriage...mac becoming his chief of staff although im not sure if that would happen, you must be a Captain in order to be right? Seeing as how mac was onle a Lt.Cmdr and "class of '38" at the acadamy.
The battles scenes, they werent bad at all. I didnt mind the models they had...personally i prefer the models as to actual combat movies its like they take you away from the movie sometimes and you begin to notice differance with what you are seeing and SUPPOSE to see which i do not like.

Thats just my 2 cents!

-IHW

Cole Thornton
post Jul 11 2005, 12:27 PM

IHW- I knew you'd have a lot of good to add to this! I like the idea of a sequel and Tom Tryon (who became a novelist I believe) would have fit in nicely with Duke's acting troupe. I could see him in The Green Berets and The Undefeated quite easily. Ditto your idea of making his Mac character his new COS. But it would be hard to top the wonderful supporting cast. I wouldn't mind having had something like this for the sequel:
Jack Lord (pre-"Hawaii Five-O") in a CO capacity. Stern and tough, an extension of Rock's will.
Gregory Peck- Something akin to his MacArthur performance of the 1970s; maybe he could play a Hell-Bent-For-Leather type who Duke has to reign in and otherwise be at odds with; the public likes him, but Torrey barely tolerates him. Perhaps a humorous resolution to their conflict.
Just some choices off the top of my head, feel free to add your own...
As for Burke, I was affected by his death. Such a fine, likable performance from Burgess Meredith, who seemed to get more talented with age. ("I tell ya, the women they're smokin' cigarettes...")
I really have no problem with the toy boat sequences, as I actually prefer the character-driven scenes over the combat stuff.
In Harm's Way is definitely a top five favorite of mine, don't know where I ranked it in the last poll, but it should be up there. I have it on DVD and have seen it about 20-25 times. The quickest way I know of to spend 2:46 or so.

InHarmsWay*
post Jul 11 2005, 08:03 PM

Cole, I must agree with Tom Tyron being a good choice for The Green Berets, are you speaking of the role Jim Hutton picked up?If Hutton had'nt have done it I believe Tyron would have filled his large shoes quite well.I really enjoyed huttons acting ability alongside the duke in the hellfighters as well.

As for gregory peck, he would have made a terrific rival (something like dana andrews as "broderick" although...more powerful and a better "adversary".Something such as the "battle between montgomery and patton" arising between peck and the duke could have made somewhat of a key component in a sequel...however its just my thoughts.

cmdr.egan powell was played by Meredith, burke of course was played by caroll o'connor.I agree i liked his performance "doing the shimmy sham shimmy".

As for a suitable CIC for "rock", im really torn by this.Robert Vaughn would have to be my top choice to be honest,very tough and stern as well and extremely talented.

Cole Thornton*
post Jul 11 2005, 09:04 PM

QUOTE(InHarmsWay @ Jul 11 2005, 03:03 PM)

cmdr.egan powell was played by Meredith, burke of course was played by caroll o'connor.I agree i liked his performance "doing the shimmy sham shimmy".

As for a suitable CIC for "rock", im really torn by this.Robert Vaughn would have to be my top choice to be honest,very tough and stern as well and extremely talented.
*

I was thinking Egan, but somehow I typed Burke. I should know better! :headbonk:
I like Robert Vaughn a whole lot, especially in "Bullitt" and The Man From U.N.C.L.E. I don't see him as Rock's exec, but rather a Neal Owen-type role. A slimy, opportunistic aide to another admiral. Of course, that would be duplicating O'Neal's role, which was great although he did seem to vanish after getting smacked around by Eddington. I'm sure we could find a part for him! Let's just hope we can get Otto to direct again... :D

I like Jim Hutton, so why not use him in IHWII? Besides, he always seemed to be working with Paula Prentiss anyway. Hutton died way too young. Didn't even get to see his son Tim win the Oscar in 1981 for 1980s "Ordinary People." Life can be cruel.

InHarmsWay*
post Jul 12 2005, 03:20 AM

QUOTE(Cole Thornton @ Jul 11 2005, 04:04 PM)
I was thinking Egan, but somehow I typed Burke.* I should know better! :headbonk:
like Robert Vaughn a whole lot, especially in "Bullitt" and The Man From U.N.C.L.E.* I don't see him as Rock's exec, but rather a Neal Owen-type role.* A slimy, opportunistic aide to another admiral.* Of course, that would be duplicating O'Neal's role, which was great although he did seem to vanish after getting smacked around by Eddington.* I'm sure we could find a part for him!* Let's just hope we can get Otto to direct again... :D
I like Jim Hutton, so why not use him in IHWII?* Besides, he always seemed to be working with Paula Prentiss anyway.* Hutton died way too young.* Didn't even get to see his son Tim win the Oscar in 1981 for 1980s "Ordinary People."* Life can be cruel.
*
Now, somehow I just have to agree with you Cole.Its true that Vaughn would be great as a "neal owen" sort of character AS HE IS best known for...although I FIND he is known for his darker roles as well.
Before you write him off, take a look at eddington.Was he character not dark,confused and misunderstood with his boozing,womanizing and well of course what he did to ensign dorn.
Vaughn could be more then capable to make a fantastic exec, a role he could pull off im sure just by him being know as a great,skilled actor.
It is a shame about Jim Hutton, died way too young..just a few days prior to that of the dukes actually.A big man at 6'5 i agree there would have been a spot for him in IHW2.
Now, as we are in the middle of 2005, and taking into account this movie was made 40years ago...
WHO (for IHW2), Would you have play the major roles, and some minor roles.You may have to make up your imagination to create some characters as well.

-IHW

cchoate
May 24th, 2006, 08:38 PM
Greetings All,

I just added this one to my DVD collection on Monday....can't wait to see it and experience the entire sound field. The letterboxed versions are best since you get to see what the director intended. I love everything about this one.

cchoate
May 24th, 2006, 08:50 PM
Originally posted by chester7777@Feb 4 2006, 01:59 AM
While I thought the movie was very good, I did feel it had a few weak spots, such as the battle at Pearl Harbor, some of the scenes of Japanese ships going through the ocean, and Kirk Douglas' character (a real jerk! :angry: ).

The most enjoyable memory I have of this movie was the interaction between Patricia Neal and JW.* The movie gave the appearance that they were made for each other.

Both Deep Discount DVD (http://search.deepdiscountdvd.com/search?p=Q&ts=custom&w=in+harms+way&search.x=0&search.y=0) and Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00005ASGD/ref=pd_sr_ec_ir_d/103-2966141-4147854?n=130) have this movie, for about the same reasonable price.

Chester :newyear:

26475


I agree with the comments regarding the chemistry between Duke and Patricia Neal. The Duke is a true gentleman and Patricia Neal is indeed a lady. People could learn something about how to treat others by watching these two.

cchoate
August 15th, 2006, 09:12 PM
Originally posted by cchoate@May 24 2006, 08:38 PM
Greetings All,

I just added this one to my DVD collection on Monday....can't wait to see it and experience the entire sound field. The letterboxed versions are best since you get to see what the director intended. I love everything about this one.

31543



I love the scene where JW is drinking a Coca-Cola while talking to the Penguin....I mean Mick.....no, wait...I mean Commander Egan Powell...Burgess Meredith. What a great picture of America.....John Wayne and Coca-Cola.

Collecting certain Coca-Cola items means as much to me as John Wayne.

ladybug
April 7th, 2007, 09:11 PM
This is the movie that I have watched the most. If I see it listed - no one can touch the TV. I can't agree more that this could not have been cast any better...Mr. Douglas was the villian that he should have been, the Aussie was funny, the son was weak (I don't think they could have gotten away with casting someone strong), I'll always have a soft heart for Mr. Fonda and Mrs. O'Neal's work with Mr. Wayne - it was just as if they were really married and experiencing it personally. The end was perfect.. when Mr. Wayne look up with the lost expression and called....Maggie? That is what it is all about. Acting. He was the best!

chris roberts
April 8th, 2007, 11:31 AM
Really enjoyed this movie, i think among the Dukes best war films. Like the fact that Capt. Rockwell Torrey isn't always right, violating the order to zigzag resulting in the loss of his ship. The story dominates the people and thereby accommodates a wide range of characters, with neither one standing out too much from the rest.
I've always enjoyed Brandon De Wilde's performances ever since Shane, also liked him in this film, however, he didn't seem quite right as John Waynes son.

Chris.

dukefan2
April 9th, 2007, 12:45 PM
I remember the making of part of this film in Hawaii. My family was stationed at Hickam AFB in 1963-5, and there was a lot of publicity about the film being shot in the islands. While we were picnicking on the beach at Fort DeRussy one sunday afternooon, we saw the cruiser USS St. Paul and the destroyers sailing from Pearl Harbor to shoot some manuevering scenes at sea. The hills behind another military base, Barber's Point, is where they shot the scenes of the Marine paratroopers marching while led by Mr.Canby, the coastwatcher. Part of the grassy hills burned when some of the cast accidently tossed a match, and we saw the burned sections when we picnicked there on the beach one afternoon. Also, both Hickam and Honolulu International Airport shared then some of the same runways that the B-25 takes off from (flown by Kirk Douglas). I remember seeing it sitting on the tarmac while visiting my father, who was flying a MATS C-118 in from Japan that day.

To top it off, my next-door neighbor bumped into the Duke (lucky dog) when he was walking through Pearl Harbor one day without his toupee. I remember being soooooo jealous, and also remember being (I was only 12) shocked that the Duke wore a hairpiece.....not my hero!!! :stunned:

cchoate
May 25th, 2007, 01:15 PM
This was on TCM last night. For the first time I was struck by the political backstabbing and double crossing going on.

And Kirk Douglas had a great line about "I think maybe someone else got in there ahead of him..."

And Neal Owynn is a sphincter.

DukePilgrim
June 16th, 2007, 04:35 PM
Watched this for the first time. I know where have I been!

I wasnt expecting much and maybe that is why I have avoided for so long.

Well I was pleasantly surprised. Very Good movie. I know the Japanese boat sequence is a little weak but I can make allowances. Considering it was quite a long movie it seem to go very fast.

An enjoyable experience and I am sure I will return to watch again.


Mike

Moonshine_Sally
June 30th, 2007, 01:48 PM
Watched this for the first time. I know where have I been!

I wasnt expecting much and maybe that is why I have avoided for so long.

Well I was pleasantly surprised. Very Good movie. I know the Japanese boat sequence is a little weak but I can make allowances. Considering it was quite a long movie it seem to go very fast.

An enjoyable experience and I am sure I will return to watch again.


Mike


Just like you Mike I used to avoid buying and watching this film,one day I found it very cheap at the Mediamarkt in Antwerp and watched it that same night and I was so surprised at how good this was.I have watched it several times since then.I also was surprised at how fast the time went watching this one.I have always loved Duke and Maureen.And also Duke and Gail...so I have to be honest to say that Patricia makes the top 3 for me.Also loved her in Operation Pacific.But when I first saw her in In Harm's Way and heard her talk I kept wondering if she was related to Kate Mulgrew of Star Trek:Voyager fame.Same voice!

The scene where they are supposed to spent the night together was so sensual.You don't see anything and yet...very well done that's what I say!

DakotaSurfer
June 30th, 2007, 02:03 PM
This has always been one of my favorite movies, especially since I spent 12 years in the Navy. All his military movies were great in my opinion.

DukePilgrim
June 30th, 2007, 05:25 PM
Just like you Mike I used to avoid buying and watching this film,one day I found it very cheap at the Mediamarkt in Antwerp and watched it that same night and I was so surprised at how good this was.I have watched it several times since then.I also was surprised at how fast the time went watching this one.I have always loved Duke and Maureen.And also Duke and Gail...so I have to be honest to say that Patricia makes the top 3 for me.Also loved her in Operation Pacific.But when I first saw her in In Harm's Way and heard her talk I kept wondering if she was related to Kate Mulgrew of Star Trek:Voyager fame.Same voice!

The scene where they are supposed to spent the night together was so sensual.You don't see anything and yet...very well done that's what I say!

Now you mention it there is a strong resemblance vocally to Kate Mulgrew. In regards to missing this film it doesnt tend to get much air time. I remember it being shown as a two parter on two nights at some late hour. The running time at nearly two and half hours does seem to fly and the storyline never flags like some other long movies.

Glad I set DVD recorder now and am glad I have it in my collection.

Mike

cchoate
September 24th, 2007, 09:14 PM
I have this in my collection but never need to use the disc since it's on TCM or AMC all the time. It gets better with each viewing. I saw another Otto Preminger movie with James Stewart this weekend (Anatomy of A Murder). The two movies had a great deal in common. I'm talking specifically about the way they were photographed. The look and feel of a movie is extremely important to me. These two movies were photographed with such incredible realism that I feel as though I could step into them. I love that.

Redcap
January 7th, 2008, 04:08 AM
Hello All,
I have to agree with some of the comments about the Duke and Patricia O'Neill. Watching both of the movies "In Harms Way" and "Operation Pacific" there is a good chemistry between them. However I think that Ward Bond would have made a good villian of the piece. I think that both the Duke and Bond had something that made a lot of their pictures. I liked both of these films and agree that a sequel would have been great.
Regards
Redcap

QuirtEvans
January 13th, 2008, 01:37 PM
But wasn't Ward Bond already dead?

chester7777
January 13th, 2008, 11:45 PM
But wasn't Ward Bond already dead?
Yes, Ward Bond died in 1960, so he would not have been available for this film.

However, sometimes it's fun to wish how things could have been.

Chester :newyear:

Jay J. Foraker
January 14th, 2008, 11:09 AM
I don't think Bond would have made a good villainous fit in this case!
Cheers - Jay:beer:

QuirtEvans
January 14th, 2008, 11:17 AM
Of course Ward Bond was an excellent villain in "Tall in the Saddle", but he wasn't allowed to do anything due to censorship.

DukePilgrim
January 15th, 2008, 04:21 PM
Are you thinking of Ward Bond for the Kirk Douglas role in Harms Way??

dukefan1
April 8th, 2008, 09:47 AM
Here is an example of the book. Enjoy!

Mark

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SXViper
April 8th, 2008, 12:30 PM
Here is a link to a review from when the movie was released. Seems rather scolding of a review. http://movies.nytimes.com/movie/review?res=9F02E1DC163EE03ABC4F53DFB266838E679EDE

That was the link and here is the review.

In Harm's Way (1965)
April 7, 1965
John Wayne Starred in Preminger Film

By BOSLEY CROWTHER
Published: April 7, 1965

YOU can't kill John Wayne. That's the message—the only message—that comes through loud and clear in Otto Preminger's big war film, "In Harm's Way," which opened last night at the DeMille. It also opens today for a simultaneous engagement at the Coronet.
No matter how much the enemy takes deadly aim at Mr. Wayne (and he seems to be running in harm's way most of the time in this film) and no matter how rough his superiors in the United States Navy are on him, he comes through alive and a hero, minus only one leg. But he picks up a loving woman, a tough Navy nurse, to compensate.
This is a slick and shallow picture that Mr. Preminger puts forth here, a straight, cliché-crowded melodrama of naval action in the Pacific in World War II, plus a good deal of cagy politicking and professional back-stabbing among the "brass." And the only character who finally emerges with any firmness and credibility is the admiral in command of the Pacific theater, who is played by Henry Fonda.
At least, Mr. Fonda makes this admiral a firm, crisp, decisive type. He seems more interested in naval operations than in promoting a personality. This is refreshing and convincing in a film that is virtually awash with flimsy and flamboyant fellows with all the tricks of the trade of Hollywood.
At the top of the lot is this captain (later admiral) whom John Wayne plays and whom we follow from the blow-up of Pearl Harbor to a big, smashing island-hopping battle toward the end of the war.
He swings through the grim humiliation of being temporarily beached after the nightmare of Pearl Harbor to the dubious honor of being in command of Operation Skyhook, the island-hopping task, with precisely the same bristling valor his Davy Crockett displayed at the Alamo. And when he rides to magnificent victory in a blazing sea battle at the end, he could just as well be leading the Seventh Cavalry as a fleet of battleships. Mr. Wayne's characterization is skin-deep. Fortunately, his skin is thick.
As His executive officer and sidekick. Kirk Douglas is awfully shallow, too—just a noisy and naughty tin-can sailor who comes to shameful but sacrificial end. His shame is that he rapes the fianée of his captain's runny-nosed son, an act that compels the young woman — a Navy nurse — to commit suicide. So, of course, this means that Mr. Douglas, in order to satisfy the code, both Navy and Production, has to get himself killed on a suicidal reconnaissance run.
What isn't explained is why this fellow suddenly rapes the virginal nurse, played by the blonde Jill Haworth. Wendell Mayes, who wrote the script from the stalwart novel of James Bassett, has neglected to motivate that, except by the vaguest implication, as he has failed to motivate lots of things. One of our wits has suggested that maybe it's simply because the suspiciously complaisant Miss Haworth is under contract to Mr. Preminger.
Anyhow, that's the way things happen in this romantic, melodramatic film, which is loaded with naval engagements and incidental characters. Mr. Preminger is nothing if not generous. He gives you a lot of bang for a buck. He simply neglects to make it have the hard, crushing sound and feel of truth.
Patricia Neal is weary and wistful as the nurse who attends Mr. Wayne, Tom Tryon and Paula Prentiss are sentimental as a Navy husband and wife, Brandon De Wilde is crisp and cocky as Mr. Wayne's Ivy League son, Burgess Meredith is quite the dry old codger as an intelligence officer, Patrick O'Neil is a stinker as a political type, and Dana Andrews, Franchot Tone and several others turn up as assorted brass.
But they, like Mr. Wayne, are only actors in a big, blazing, black-and-white war film. Some suffer normal attrition. But not Mr. Wayne. They can't kill him.

The Cast
IN HARM'S WAY; screenplay by Wendell Mayes, based on a novel by James Bassett; produced and directed by Otto Preminger; released by Paramount. At the DeMille, Seventh Avenue and 49th Street, and the Coronet, Third Avenue and 59th Street. Running time: 165 minutes.
Rock . . . . . John Wayne
Eddington . . . . . Kirk Douglas
Maggie . . . . . Patricia Neal
Cinepac 2 . . . . . Henry Fonda
Mac . . . . . Tom Tryon
Bev . . . . . Paula Prentiss
Jere . . . . . Brandon De Wilde
Annalee . . . . . Jill Haworth
Admiral Broderick . . . . . Dana Andrews
Clayton Canfil . . . . . Stanley Holloway
Comdr. Egan Powell . . . . . Burgess Meredith
Cincpac 1 . . . . . Franchot Tone
Comdr. Neal Owynn . . . . . Patrick O'Neal
Lieut. Comdr. Burke . . . . . Carroll O'Connor
Chief Petty Officer Culpepper . . . . . Slim Pickens
Ensign Griggs . . . . . James Mitchum
Colonel Gregory . . . . . George Kennedy
Quartermaster Quoddy . . . . . Bruce Cabot
Liz Eddington . . . . . Barbara Bouchet
Captain Tuthill . . . . . Tod Andrews
Lieut. (j.g.) . . . . . Larry Hegman
Ensign Balch . . . . . Stewart Moss
Lieut. (j.g.) Tom Agar . . . . . Richard Le Pore
Ship's doctor . . . . . Chet Stratton
Tearful woman . . . . . Soo Young
Boston . . . . . Dort Clark
PT-boat skipper . . . . . Phil Mattingly

badger
July 7th, 2010, 12:56 PM
does anyone know why this was filmed in black and white - didn t spoil my enjoyment of the film but as it was made in 1965 was there a particular reason for this?

DukePilgrim
July 7th, 2010, 04:32 PM
does anyone know why this was filmed in black and white - didn t spoil my enjoyment of the film but as it was made in 1965 was there a particular reason for this?

More than likely to save money and to make use of actual war footage. Also Otto's toy boat sequence aka battle sequence would have looked worse if that is possible in colour.

badger
July 10th, 2010, 02:57 AM
More than likely to save money and to make use of actual war footage. Also Otto's toy boat sequence aka battle sequence would have looked worse if that is possible in colour.
Thanks DukePilgrim - like i say, it didn t spoil my enjoyment but just curious.

ejgreen77
July 10th, 2010, 09:52 AM
More than likely to save money and to make use of actual war footage. Also Otto's toy boat sequence aka battle sequence would have looked worse if that is possible in colour.

Kirk Douglas mentioned in his autobiography how terrible he felt the battle sequences were. I guess they were spending so much on the stars (Wayne, Douglas, Neal, ect.) that the special effects budget suffered accordingly.

ringo kid
July 10th, 2010, 06:44 PM
i saw in harm's way for the first time last night.i was surprise how good this film is.i really enjoyed it.john wayne and kirt douglas acted well together, and patricia neal is great to.brandon de wilde was good as john wayne's son.its a pity he died so young.also i would have liked more scenes with john wayne and henry fonda.all in all a great war movie and top notch cast


9/10

(http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001121/)

DukePilgrim
July 11th, 2010, 10:21 AM
Kirk Douglas mentioned in his autobiography how terrible he felt the battle sequences were. I guess they were spending so much on the stars (Wayne, Douglas, Neal, ect.) that the special effects budget suffered accordingly.


That is the shame. It is a very good movie let down at the very end by a totally fake battle sequence that should be in some B movie.

paulslilsterlingrose
August 23rd, 2010, 02:42 PM
one of my favorite war movies made in the 1960's sadly very few of the cast members are still alive as Patricia Neal passed away a couple of weeks ago

The Tennesseean
August 23rd, 2010, 04:05 PM
The reviewer let WAY too much out of the bag re: some of the elements of the film, but I suppose he didn't want anyone going to see it!!

Premminger might've been been going for a vintage look as well, I can't say. The film is a good one, even if the battle scenes aren't "up to snuff"

The Tennesseean
August 23rd, 2010, 04:07 PM
BTW - someone posted on this board a short time ago that this film was filmed at Camp Pendleton, but the majority of filming was done IN Hawaii...

ethanedwards
August 23rd, 2010, 06:27 PM
BTW - someone posted on this board a short time ago that this film was filmed at Camp Pendleton, but the majority of filming was done IN Hawaii...

This is from our opening post

Filming Locations
Hawaii, USA
Hell's Half Acre District, Honolulu, O'ahu, Hawaii, USA
San Diego, California, USA
San Francisco, California, USA

The Tennesseean
August 23rd, 2010, 11:49 PM
Thanks ethan...I appreciate the info!!

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Gorch
March 25th, 2011, 12:17 PM
Interesting to see that Barbara Bouchet's dance scene made it onto the lobby cards. I saw that dance for the first time when I was 16 and still remember it fondly.

We deal in lead, friend.

lasbugas
June 6th, 2011, 06:09 AM
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wtrayah
January 29th, 2012, 07:00 AM
Another Great war movie! With a great cast! I know its just me, but, i could never warm up to Patricia Neal. Two Thumbs Up!

lasbugas
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WaynamoJim
September 26th, 2012, 01:15 PM
Went with my wife to a second hand store today. I sat in the car listening to the radio while she went in. After awhile, I decided to go in. I was looking through their dvd section and found a copy of In Harms Way. Turns out they had a special going and I got for $1.91. Checked over the disc and it's in real good shape, just a couple of fingerprints that can be wiped off. Not a bad deal.

Hawkswill
September 26th, 2012, 04:05 PM
Now THAT is a DEAL! Did it have any commentaries on it?.....I am looking for those now.....love the ones with the actors in them. Also enjoy the ones that have a running commentary and then the actual movie without! Keith


Went with my wife to a second hand store today. I sat in the car listening to the radio while she went in. After awhile, I decided to go in. I was looking through their dvd section and found a copy of In Harms Way. Turns out they had a special going and I got for $1.91. Checked over the disc and it's in real good shape, just a couple of fingerprints that can be wiped off. Not a bad deal.

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ethanedwards
August 1st, 2013, 11:54 AM
Good Photo

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