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ethanedwards
February 6th, 2006, 03:35 AM
THE BARBARIAN AND THE GEISHA

DIRECTED BY JOHN HUSTON
PRODUCED BY DARRYL F. ZANUCK/ EUGENE FRENK
20th.CENTURY FOX

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INFORMATION FROM IMDb

Plot Summary
Townsend Harris is sent by President Pierce to Japan
to serve as the first U.S. Consul-General to that country.
Harris discovers enormous hostility to foreigners, as well as the love of a young geisha.
Summary written by Jim Beaver

Full Cast
John Wayne .... Townsend Harris
Eiko Ando .... Okichi
Sam Jaffe .... Henry Heusken
Sô Yamamura .... Governor Tamura
Kodaya Ichikawa .... Daimyo (uncredited)
Tokujiro Iketaniuchi .... Harusha (uncredited)
Fuji Kasai .... Lord Hotta (uncredited)
Takeshi Kumagai .... Chamberlain (uncredited)
Morita .... Prime Minister (uncredited)
James Robbins .... Lt. Fisher (uncredited)
Norman Thomson .... Captain Edmunds (uncredited)
Hiroshi Yamato .... The Shogun (uncredited)

Writing Credits
Nigel Balchin uncredited
James Edward Grant uncredited
Charles Grayson
Alfred Hayes uncredited
Ellis St. Joseph story

Original Music
Hugo Friedhofer

Cinematography
Charles G. Clarke

Stunts
Chuck Roberson .... stunts (uncredited)

Trivia
Based on the true story of American diplomat Townsend Harris, his time in Japan in the 1850s and 60s, and his romance with a 17-year-old geisha named Kichi. Their story is one of the most well-known folk tales in Japan. The real Harris died in New York in 1878, and the real Kichi committed suicide in Shimoda in 1892.

Average Shot Length = ~10.5 seconds. Median Shot Length = ~9.7 seconds.

Director Anthony Mann owned the rights to this story, but sold it to Fox after being unable to sign a big enough star to play the lead.

John Huston later dismissed this film, claiming that the final version, re-cut by the studio, didn't resemble his vision at all and that he would've liked to have his name removed from the credits. Stylistically, Huston wanted to make it a particularly Japanese film in terms of photography, pacing, color and narration. According to him, only bits of this attempt were still intact and visible in the theatrical version.

While making The Barbarian and the Geisha (1958), John Wayne apparently became so enraged with director John Huston (who was something of a tough guy himself and was nearly as tall as Wayne, but not as massive) that he throttled and punched him out. It is unknown what Huston did to earn the beating, but the director was known to have a mean streak. Wayne later re-enacted the incident for Peter Bogdanovich, who was somewhat terrified to be used as a substitute for Huston.

Goofs
Incorrectly regarded as goofs: At one point, Townsend calls to his Chinese servant Sam; this was not, as some thought, a mistaken reference to an actor's real name.

Filming Locations
20th Century Fox Studios - 10201 Pico Blvd., Century City, Los Angeles, California, USA
(studio)
Eiga Film Studios, Tokyo, Japan
(studio)
Kawana, Japan
Kyoto, Japan

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ethanedwards
February 6th, 2006, 03:43 AM
Well, as they say, a strange old film this one!!
I enjoy, the film, and it's very entertaining.

Duke looked oddly out of place as Townsend Harrison,
and from the look of it, he thought so too.


Duke tried hard, but the film ended up being a mess,
mainly because Duke and John Huston, got to dislike one another, in a big way!
Chuck Roberson said,


I liked Huston well enough, but the guy drove Duke up a pagoda,
the way he hemmed and hawed, over directing a scene.
Duke later was calling Huston a liar, and said,


Actors were like figures on a Japenese screen to him;they were just things in the foreground...
I found it impossible to make any contact at all.
Things got bad to worse, and a good picture ended up as a bad picture,
with Duke, much to the fury of Huston, re-editing the final prints.

Huston said


By the time the studios, had finished hacking up the picture to Duke's instructions...
it was a complete mess.

Well there's one User Review below I tend to agree, about the entertainment value.
However, critics pointed out, that as I mentioned before,
Duke looked bewildered in the movie, but many found it lovely to watch, with beautiful sets and costumes.
To sum up,The NYTimes said,


Single shots, of exquisite beauty, and incredible delicay of hues .
Duke said,


Don't talk to me, about that Japenese thing

There you go, beat that!!!

User Review

Author: Sycotron from California, USA.from IMDb

Not an action packed John Wayne adventure but enjoyable for it's own merits.*
Those merits include an interesting look at Japan circa 1856 and how the arrival of non-Japanese were looked on with fear and loathing.
There are some odd directorial dead spots such as when Wayne as Townsend Harris is told he cannot fly the American flag. The Duke agrees to take it down but gives a speech stating that he will fly the flag at certain times. The scene trails off somewhat anti-climactically despite seemingly leading up to a dramatic confrontation.
On the whole I found the film entertaining and worth viewing.

chester7777
February 12th, 2006, 01:43 AM
The Mrs. doesn't remember ever seeing this, but I know I have. In any case, we don't own it.

It doesn't seem to be available on DVD anywhere (I can't understand why :lol: ), but Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/6303383076/ref=pd_bbs_null_1/002-3581901-1689624?v=glance&s=dvd) has it on VHS, from independent sellers (no free shipping - boo hoo!).

Chester :newyear:

Popol Vuh
February 12th, 2006, 06:06 AM
I seem to like all the movies where John Wayne played roles that were not westerns or millitary better than most people do. I think this is a really good movie with a good story (and based on a true one at that).

Anyway it will be released in one week in the UK.

The Barbarian and the Geisha (http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000BTIPGG/qid=1139745630/sr=1-4/ref=sr_1_10_4/202-1838617-3397441)

Regards
Popol Vuh

ethanedwards
February 12th, 2006, 06:14 AM
Originally posted by ethanedwards@Jan 22 2006, 09:28 PM
Hi Popul Vuh,
You are a cheeky monkey,and you make me laugh, but I get your point!!
I've actually spent hours and hours doing this,as you you can tell, and I came to the conclusion, that when the new Forums were formed, there seemed little point,
having them sit there empty!!
No one can comment on the films, until they're posted!
The original idea, of doing 2 or 3 a week, went out the window,
when the new forums, were opened.
I feel that once they're all in there, our members,
can browse, and post in their own time.

25676

Hi Popul,
Thanks for the info,
hey I've just noticed you've got cheeky monkey, on your avatar setting,
this wouldn't be in reference, to what I called you, not long ago????

Best Wishes,

Popol Vuh
February 12th, 2006, 07:03 AM
Originally posted by ethanedwards@Feb 12 2006, 02:14 PM
Hi Popul,
Thanks for the info,
hey I've just noticed you've got cheeky monkey, on your avatar setting,
this wouldn't be in reference, to what I called you, not long ago????

Best Wishes,

27078


It wouldn't? Yes it would. I put that in straight away. :)

William T Brooks
February 12th, 2006, 08:00 AM
Duke did not want to talk about this Film, and part of that was because He was still upset with the Japanese over WW-2 and the many problems that He had with Huston in the making of the Film. :angry:

Because I had spent a lot of time in Japan in the 1960s and the 1970s and became very interested in the way that Old Japanese lived I like to watch the Film when I can. :)

But when I want to see Duke at His Best I will watch a Good John Wayne Shoot-Um-Up Western or one of His Flying Films every time!!! :D

Chilibill :cowboy:

ethanedwards
February 12th, 2006, 08:08 AM
Hi Bill,
That's probably what Duke also meant when he said,


Don't talk to me, about that Japenese thing

chester7777
February 12th, 2006, 09:06 AM
Originally posted by Popol Vuh@Feb 12 2006, 04:06 AM
I seem to like all the movies where John Wayne played roles that were not westerns or millitary better than most people do. I think this is a really good movie with a good story (and based on a true one at that).

Anyway it will be released in one week in the UK.

The Barbarian and the Geisha (http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000BTIPGG/qid=1139745630/sr=1-4/ref=sr_1_10_4/202-1838617-3397441)

Regards
Popol Vuh

27077
Popol Vuh,

I, too, enjoy many of the non-western and non-military roles, just because they are different. I haven't seen this one yet, but am very interested. The premise of the story sounds very intriguing to me.

You lucky dudes, getting it in DVD in region 2!

But I guess many of you outside region 1 feel that way many times about releases over here, huh? :rolleyes:

Mrs. C :angel1:

Popol Vuh
February 12th, 2006, 09:22 AM
Hi Mrs. C

It seems like a lot do, but I'm not one of them. This is easily solved with a multi-region DVD-player. Then you can order the movies from anywhere. I still say if you want them bad enough you can get them.

Regards
Popol Vuh

arthurarnell
September 3rd, 2006, 05:32 AM
Hi

On another thread (Dukes stinkers) there is a lot said about The Barbarian and the Geisha and John Wayne's relationship with director John Huston.

The film originally to be called the Townsend Harris story was supposed to be Hustons attempt at recreating the stunning visual grandeur of the 1954 Japanese picture 'Gate of hell'. In his words he
* ...wanted to send Duke's gigantic form into this exotic world that was the Japanese empire of the 18oos' ...Imagine this massive figure with his bluff innocense and naivete, with his rough edges, moving among these minute people. Who better to symbolize the big, awkward United States of 100 years ago?

Though certainly inspired (Wayne) is visually perfect and quite effective in the atypical role, the choice proved to be a diastrous mistake in terms of audience response. Seeing Waynes name in the credits, filmgoers expected the film to be full of thundering excitement, which the Barbarian and the Geisha is definately not. For this and other reasons perhaps the film was not a box offce success.

Other things that made the film unpopular with Huston was that halfway through the making of the picture and without his knowledge the title was changed to he Barbarian And The Geisha. Huston hated the change.

He also failed to convince John Wayne about the way he wanted the film made concentrating on conveying over to the public the gentleness of Japan in soft pastel shades.

Wayne used to the
shoot it and printing styles of directors like John Ford, John Farrow and others, felt Hustons pace was too slow and his attention to visual details, which Wayne considered irrevlevent, to be almost an obsession. He later termed Huston's directoral reputation as 'overated'. For his part, huston simply admits that between him and the late star there was just ...'no great meeting of minds.

In his book An Open Book Hustons states:-

The Barbarian and the Geisha turned out to be a bad picture, but it was a good picture before it became a bad picture. I've made pictures that were not good for which I was responsible but this was not one of them. When I brought it to Hollywood, the picture including the music, was finished, as far as I was concerned. It was a senisitive well balanced* work. I turned it over to the studio and hurried on to Africa to work on the Roots of Heaven... John Wayne apparently took over after I left. He pulled a lot of weight at Fox so the studio went along with his demands for chages.* ....when* finally saw it I was aghast. A number of scenes had been reshot simply because he didn't like the way he looked in te original version. by the time the studio finished hacking up the picture according to Wayne's instructions, it was a complete mess.

This was the second time that such a thing had happened to Huston, as his dream project the Red Badge of Courage was also subjected to massive cuts and changes.

Huston joined a small group of prestigious ditrectors who included Cecil B deMille and Don Siegal who only worked with him on one ccasion

Regards

Arthur

Robbie
September 5th, 2006, 08:39 AM
It would be very interesting to see the original version that Huston wanted and then to compare this with the version that Duke editied.

Thanks for that post Arther it was very interesting.

Robbie
:agent:

Stumpy
September 13th, 2006, 04:49 PM
I've said this several times but it bears repeating. This is a favorite with me, if for no other reason because the Duke plays against type. Furthermore, I thought he did an excellent job. And during the movie, I detected no signs that he was uncomfortable with either the role or direction.

I spent a considerable amount of time in Japan during the Fifties and found the Japanese people to my liking. They were (and may still be, for all I know) some of the cleanest and most industrious humans I've ever met. (And as a lusty young sailor back then, I especially liked the Japanese gals :jump: They were among the most feminine and anxious to please of any females I've ever met. I've heard, or read, that Japanese women are raised from birth to please a man, and I can well believe it. Of course, they may have caught that feminist disease by now.)

It's funny but during WW2, I was taught to hate the Japanese, just as I was the Germans. Since the, I've learned that much of that teaching was pure propaganda.

Popol Vuh
September 14th, 2006, 09:43 AM
Originally posted by Stumpy@Sep 13 2006, 11:49 PM
I've said this several times but it bears repeating. This is a favorite with me, if for no other reason because the Duke plays against type. Furthermore, I thought he did an excellent job.* And during the movie, I detected no signs that he was uncomfortable with either the role or direction.


And I'll agree with you every time. I don't understand why so many people seem to dislike it. Sometimes I like a movie and I know that most people will hate it, but not this one. Every time someone starts to point out the weaknesses of this film I seem to just disagree with them.

Regards
Popol Vuh

falc04
February 9th, 2007, 11:30 AM
I just recently caught this film on the FOX Movie Channel, where it was broadcast in widescreen, and 2-track stereo. I must admit, the film is 10 times better, when shown in it's original format. For years, I had to suffer thru the pan-and-scan blurry version available on VHS. What a difference in viewing enjoyment!

As for the film, I rather enjoyed it. It did have moments of not being edited too well, but there are some incredibly good scenes:

1) Townsend Harris pleading with the sick sailors not to swim to shore, and also trying to make the Japanese people understand the danger.

2) Townsend Harris burning down the village in an attempt to stop the sickness inflicting the people.

3) The fight between Harris and two bullies, who have grabbed Henry's hat and cane.

4) The archery show, where one of the lords is assassinated.

5) And lastly, the assassination attempt on Harris, where Okicha pretends to be him, to save him.

Many enjoyable moments from this film. If you've only seen it in the over-scanned version out on VHS, your doing yourself a disservice. Certainly be wonderful if FOX sees to releasing the Region 1 DVD soon!

DukePilgrim
February 9th, 2007, 05:40 PM
Interesting review falc04.

Its one of the movies I have never seen of JW. It would be interesting to watch on TV if it appears but from what I have seen and read on it I dont think I would speculate on buying it on DVD.


Mike

chester7777
February 22nd, 2007, 12:55 AM
This is a film I still need in my collection.

Check out this theater poster.

Chester :newyear:

arthurarnell
March 4th, 2007, 08:32 AM
Hi

Not a bad film, not a bad poster and a reasonable photograph to augment it.

http://www.dukewayne.com/imagehosting/22545ead73bf108f.jpg
(http://www.dukewayne.com/vbimghost.php?do=displayimg&imgid=242)


Regards

Arthur

dukefan2
April 12th, 2007, 03:52 PM
I always enjoy this film, because of the scenes of old japan, the kago carriers, the samurai, the samisen players during the special banquet for Harris. One reason that I have read why Duke did not like working on it was because Sam Jaffe had been blacklisted as a result of the HUAC trials earlier. Although he was a benign liberal in his views, Wayne did not care for him.

Those who wish to read a very good book about life in Shogun Japan should read Oliver Statler's "Japanese Inn". It available through Amazon. It is about the life of Japan as seen from the 1600's through the 1950's by the inhabitants of a second class inn called the "Minaguchi-ya" that sat along the Tokaido Road that ran between Edo (Tokyo) and Kyoto. Statler also wrote a book about the real Townsend Harris and his story in Japan, unfortunately I don't know the title.

Stumpy
April 12th, 2007, 04:12 PM
Statler also wrote a book about the real Townsend Harris and his story in Japan, unfortunately I don't know the title.

I think the book you're talking about is "Shimoda Story", dukefan.

You sound like a person who's also spent some time in Japan. I was there in the Fifties with the Navy and fell in love with the place.

William T Brooks
August 22nd, 2007, 11:30 AM
The More I watch This Film the More I like it ! It shows You The Mind-Set of The The People of Japan at that Time in History !
Chilibill
:cowboy:

CaliforniaTiger
August 22nd, 2007, 11:49 AM
hated this movie at first....but years later it grows on you

The Ringo Kid
September 12th, 2007, 07:15 PM
This is yet another I have not seen but I think I could easily like this one being that it is so different than what Duke usually made.

Kevin
March 29th, 2008, 01:48 PM
Hulu has the complete The Barbarian And The Geisha
online. Hulu is ad supported so you'll need to sit thru a commercial but worth it for free.

http://www.hulu.com/watch/15310

kilo 6
April 9th, 2008, 01:59 AM
pleasant and compelling

H.sanada
April 24th, 2008, 07:14 AM
Because the sentence that wrote memories of this movie was found to the book
that a certain Japanese who had been working as a staff during the location in Japan.
Let's introduce it.
His name is Minoru Inuzuka and he participated in this movie as a dialogue coach.
He can be seen also IMDB.

Hereafter,from his sentences.
1) John Huston felt dissatisfied in the scenario that the writer wrote first, and was
being rewritten by himself at the hotel every night. However, Inuzuka says It must be
already water under the bridge.
2) John Wayne was coming to Japan alone without attendand. and he was processing
what one by himself.When taking a meal in the studio,JW waited in a line of the staff
together.and after meal,he had take away the dirty dishes for the table,even with other's plate.
There was not affecting the star,and when he was a popular good person,everyone
felt adimiration for Duke.
3) Though JW was doing comfortable way to talk when performing at the waestern movie,
It pronounced in one word plain remark,and the device about which it talked applying
the intonation in the conversation with the samurai was done,He made it good.
Inuzuka thought He was not an average actor in this movie.
4) Inuzuka invited JW to the geisha house in Gion in Kyoto twice. Duke was very pleased
the geisha play was very graceful.

Regards,
H.sanada

dukefan1
April 24th, 2008, 08:39 AM
hated this movie at first....but years later it grows on you

I find myself in the same position. I had seen this film years ago and didn't like it. I never bothered to look at it again untill Kevin put the link to the film from hulu. I decided to give it a look and found that I enjoyed it the second time around. I liked the way that Duke played Townsend Harris. The scenery really was impressive and the story line flowed just fine. I loved the part where Duke stood in front of the canon aimed at the ship and shifted everytime the cannon moved.

So, now this film is no longer on my hate list, and I probably won't wait another 10 years to watch it again. :teeth_smile:

Mark

H.sanada
April 26th, 2008, 04:06 AM
About Earl Norman (AKA Norman Thomson) who performed as Ship Captain Edmunds
in this film,I already posted to General discussion thread last night.
he is a very interesting person, i think.
i found the site about novel that he wrote.
someone who knows him, please share more information .

http://www.thrillingdetective.com/bann.html

regards,
H.sanada

H.sanada
May 2nd, 2008, 06:51 AM
Hi All
Okichi met Harris for the first time on May 22 151years ago.
The photo of Okichi is here. as for her,it's the kind of beauty who
even today passes.
http://www.dukewayne.com/imagehosting/1086481b00533482a.jpg

http://www.hiraganatimes.com/hp/scenes/kiji/kiji258-6e.html

H.sanada

Stumpy
May 2nd, 2008, 07:48 AM
as for her,it's the kind of beauty who even today passes.

Very true.

ethanedwards
May 2nd, 2008, 09:38 AM
About Earl Norman (AKA Norman Thomson) who performed as Ship Captain Edmunds
in this film,I already posted to General discussion thread last night.
he is a very interesting person, i think.
i found the site about novel that he wrote.
someone who knows him, please share more information .

http://www.thrillingdetective.com/bann.html

regards,
H.sanada

A touching story, thanks for posting this

chester7777
February 16th, 2009, 11:54 AM
Hulu has the complete The Barbarian And The Geisha online.
I am so bummed that we didn't take the opportunity to watch the film while it was available (it is no longer :cry2:).

Well, you know the saying . . . you snooze :sleep_1:, you lose :dead: . . . I guess we lost, until it becomes available again.

Mrs. C :angel1:

chester7777
February 28th, 2009, 04:54 PM
Thanks to the generosity of a member of our message board, who owned and made a copy of this film for me, we were able to watch it last night! I have to concur with what several others have said in this thread, that it was enjoyable seeing Duke in a different type of role. To me, he seemed comfortable and did a fine job. Like Mark, I got a good chuckle out of the scene when he stood in front of the cannon (although in retrospect, his character was probably sorry, since the sailors who jumped ship brought deadly disease to the area).

Our grandson was fascinated that the story is based on historical facts, and it helped me to place some things in a better historical perspective. It was interesting to learn that the Japanese culture was still so isolated in the mid 1800s.

All in all, a very different JW movie, but one that I will definitely watch again.

Mrs. C :angel1:

William T Brooks
March 3rd, 2009, 05:28 PM
I liked the Film Very Much about History even if it was Not Duke's Normal Role in Films !
Chilibill

William T Brooks
July 13th, 2009, 03:31 PM
And we even have one of The Saddles that was used in the Film at The Wild West Museum !
Bill
:cowboy:

stagecoach50
July 13th, 2009, 08:31 PM
I am not a good judge because I liked ALL of JW's movies but I too like his off Wayne roles and this was a good example. Watch him in THE LONG VOYAGE HOME, I wonder how many times he lost his character voice and they had to re-take, it must of drove Ford crazy??
Andy:teeth_smile:

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Ringokid
March 8th, 2011, 08:25 AM
Hi
Not really a bad movie. My daughter likes it ...and she really doesn't like JW movies..so I have hope !!
I have seen worse !

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March 28th, 2011, 05:50 AM
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lasbugas
April 22nd, 2011, 02:48 PM
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lasbugas
July 17th, 2011, 02:58 PM
http://i47.servimg.com/u/f47/11/97/59/03/a_duk106.jpg (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=8498&u=11975903)

lasbugas
July 27th, 2011, 12:51 PM
http://i47.servimg.com/u/f47/11/97/59/03/a_duk152.jpg (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=8544&u=11975903)

wtrayah
October 11th, 2011, 08:02 AM
Forgive me if this is the wrong place to ask this but, does anybody know if there is a good ( not import ) dvd out there on the barbarian and the geisha? Does anybody have one? I have it on VHS. I liked the movie! Great story about the Japanese people. Thanks! My name is Bill, I'm from Colchester Vermont. Im 53 years old and work at IBM. Been a JW fan since i was a kid. I'm a greenhorn here so patients please!

Lt. Brannigan
October 11th, 2011, 09:16 AM
Forgive me if this is the wrong place to ask this but, does anybody know if there is a good ( not import ) dvd out there on the barbarian and the geisha? Does anybody have one? I have it on VHS. I liked the movie! Great story about the Japanese people. Thanks! My name is Bill, I'm from Colchester Vermont. Im 53 years old and work at IBM. Been a JW fan since i was a kid. I'm a greenhorn here so patients please!

No there is no Region one DVD available for the Barbarian and the Geisha however you can download it from Amazon Instant Video
(http://www.amazon.com/The-Barbarian-And-Geisha/dp/B00210WEGA/ref=sr_1_3?s=instant-video&ie=UTF8&qid=1318342524&sr=1-3)

lasbugas
December 17th, 2011, 04:40 AM
http://i77.servimg.com/u/f77/11/97/59/03/a_duke52.jpg (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=7282&u=11975903)

lasbugas
January 31st, 2012, 01:50 PM
http://i47.servimg.com/u/f47/11/97/59/03/a_du1093.jpg (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=9560&u=11975903)

wtrayah
January 31st, 2012, 04:17 PM
I hope I live long enough to see this on DVD!

lasbugas
February 4th, 2012, 05:38 AM
http://i47.servimg.com/u/f47/11/97/59/03/a_du1124.jpg (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=9591&u=11975903)

http://i47.servimg.com/u/f47/11/97/59/03/a_du1123.jpg (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=9590&u=11975903)

http://i47.servimg.com/u/f47/11/97/59/03/th/a_du1125.jpg (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=9592&u=11975903)

lasbugas
February 11th, 2012, 02:54 AM
http://i47.servimg.com/u/f47/11/97/59/03/a_du1262.jpg (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=9729&u=11975903)

Gorch
May 16th, 2012, 10:31 AM
Finally saw this one for the first time in wide screen on Blu Ray and was knocked out by the colors and scene compositions. Watching it in pan and scan format almost completely ruins the movie.
Wayne is admirable as always but the overall picture suffers a bit from a meandering script. Actually, I would have preferred to see more of Wayne's character and less of Japan even if it made the running time longer. I did notice that there was a lot of screen time devoted to translation.
I recommend it, but I enjoyed "The Conqueror" more.



We deal in lead, friend.

Dooley
June 7th, 2012, 05:45 PM
Finally saw this one for the first time in wide screen on Blu Ray and was knocked out by the colors and scene compositions. Watching it in pan and scan format almost completely ruins the movie.
Wayne is admirable as always but the overall picture suffers a bit from a meandering script. Actually, I would have preferred to see more of Wayne's character and less of Japan even if it made the running time longer. I did notice that there was a lot of screen time devoted to translation.
I recommend it, but I enjoyed "The Conqueror" more.



We deal in lead, friend.

Agreed Gorch,
I watched it last week on Blu ray and have to say it was stunning.
It's an odd entry in the Duke's canon, I can see why he chose the role for its patriotic slant, quite enjoyable none the less.

lasbugas
July 3rd, 2012, 12:00 PM
http://i47.servimg.com/u/f47/11/97/59/03/duke_373.jpg (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=10509&u=11975903)

lasbugas
July 5th, 2012, 05:58 AM
http://i47.servimg.com/u/f47/11/97/59/03/duke_379.jpg (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=10516&u=11975903)

lasbugas
July 11th, 2012, 12:26 PM
http://i47.servimg.com/u/f47/11/97/59/03/duke_392.jpg (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=10531&u=11975903)

chester7777
July 11th, 2012, 11:13 PM
Wow, a never ending supply of neat pictures! Thanks again, lasbugas!
How do you do it?

Chester :newyear:

lasbugas
July 12th, 2012, 06:13 AM
http://i47.servimg.com/u/f47/11/97/59/03/duke_398.jpg (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=10537&u=11975903)

lasbugas
August 3rd, 2012, 05:16 AM
http://i37.servimg.com/u/f37/11/97/59/03/duke_a11.jpg (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=10646&u=11975903)

The Tennesseean
August 3rd, 2012, 07:54 AM
Slightly off topic, but seeing Duke here with Ezra Pound reminded me of the great part Pound played as "Gunga Din."

I would've loved to have heard Duke deliver the famous line - "You're a better man than I am, Gunga Din!"

Lt. Brannigan
August 3rd, 2012, 11:05 AM
I finally got around to watching this and after reading about how slow and ponderous it was, I was amazed at how enjoyable the movie actually is. John Wayne and Japan is a combo that works surprisingly well. The only problem I had was how helpless John Wayne seemed when going up against that little guy. John Wayne is never helpless.

Dooley
August 3rd, 2012, 11:40 AM
I finally got around to watching this and after reading about how slow and ponderous it was, I was amazed at how enjoyable the movie actually is. John Wayne and Japan is a combo that works surprisingly well. The only problem I had was how helpless John Wayne seemed when going up against that little guy. John Wayne is never helpless.

The fight passage in the film has generated plenty of discussion on many forums!
I have to agree the film is better than I was expecting too and the cinematography and direction is stunning.

Peridot
October 15th, 2012, 08:36 AM
So, I started trying to watch The Barbarian and the Geisha...anyone else have trouble with this one?

I hate to say it but it's sort of a stinker. I love films about Japan with accurate representations of the culture but the beginning made me cringe. Does it improve?

Help!

Dooley
October 15th, 2012, 10:37 AM
So, I started trying to watch The Barbarian and the Geisha...anyone else have trouble with this one?

I hate to say it but it's sort of a stinker. I love films about Japan with accurate representations of the culture but the beginning made me cringe. Does it improve?

Help!

Hi Peridot,
It is a languid film with an equally tedious score which really doesn't help the proceedings!
The cinematography is beautiful as is landscape but it does all drag a bit.
It won't suddenly jump into life but it is worth watching all the way through.

I hope that helps a bit!

Regards,

Peter

Peridot
October 16th, 2012, 12:16 PM
Well, I managed to finish it out and I'm grateful I did. The fight scene was interesting and the photography was beautiful when it was new, I imagine. I'd like to get hold of the Blu-ray. I saw a letterboxed unrestored version from television.

Thanks to everyone for their encouraging support. I give this one two stars because it was finished and I could see what they were going for in the film.

:star::star:

Dooley
October 16th, 2012, 02:14 PM
Well, I managed to finish it out and I'm grateful I did. The fight scene was interesting and the photography was beautiful when it was new, I imagine. I'd like to get hold of the Blu-ray. I saw a letterboxed unrestored version from television.

Thanks to everyone for their encouraging support. I give this one two stars because it was finished and I could see what they were going for in the film.

:star::star:

No problem Peridot, that's why we're all on here, for encouragement!

Walmart released a Blu ray and DVD combo earlier this year and the quality of the transfer was very good indeed.

ethanedwards
October 16th, 2012, 02:22 PM
Well, I managed to finish it out and I'm grateful I did. The fight scene was interesting and the photography was beautiful when it was new, I imagine. I'd like to get hold of the Blu-ray. I saw a letterboxed unrestored version from television.

Thanks to everyone for their encouraging support. I give this one two stars because it was finished and I could see what they were going for in the film.

:star::star:
Glad you enjoyed, I also did, but it was just tiresome film.

Peridot
October 17th, 2012, 09:24 AM
I'll look for it in the next couple of days. I wish I'd known that before I suffered through this faded and sad version. Still, something to look forward to, isn't it? You're a dear. I'm not sure I can communicate how disappointed I was with the grey-as-black, pink-as-red version I suffered through. :heart: Thank you.

Dooley
October 17th, 2012, 09:40 AM
I'll look for it in the next couple of days. I wish I'd known that before I suffered through this faded and sad version. Still, something to look forward to, isn't it? You're a dear. I'm not sure I can communicate how disappointed I was with the grey-as-black, pink-as-red version I suffered through. :heart: Thank you.

It does look stunning and the best way to see it. However it doesn't transform the film into a classic, it's still rather slow and dull.

lasbugas
October 18th, 2012, 12:13 PM
http://i37.servimg.com/u/f37/11/97/59/03/duke9712.jpg (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=10950&u=11975903)

Peridot
October 19th, 2012, 08:44 PM
Didn't find the Blu-Ray at Wallyworld yesterday when I went shopping there. Disappointed.

Dooley
October 19th, 2012, 08:57 PM
Didn't find the Blu-Ray at Wallyworld yesterday when I went shopping there. Disappointed.

I would imagine they have sold out. Being it was the only place this and the big trail were released on blu ray the demand must have been quite high. Both are being sold on Amazon if that helps.

Peridot
October 20th, 2012, 07:33 AM
I would imagine they have sold out. Being it was the only place this and the big trail were released on blu ray the demand must have been quite high. Both are being sold on Amazon if that helps.


In truth and in fact, I'm afraid they sent it back. I was there some days ago and they were packing up crates of DVDs and Blu-Rays and sending them back. I fear I missed it.

Lt. Brannigan
October 20th, 2012, 02:52 PM
In truth and in fact, I'm afraid they sent it back. I was there some days ago and they were packing up crates of DVDs and Blu-Rays and sending them back. I fear I missed it.

I was about to inform you that this movie was being released in wide retail and no longer an exclusive to Walmart, but I have been beaten to it already.

But here is the link anyway (http://www.amazon.com/Barbarian-Geisha-Blu-ray-John-Wayne/dp/B009A881OA/ref=sr_1_4?s=movies-tv&ie=UTF8&qid=1350762622&sr=1-4&keywords=john+wayne)

lasbugas
December 17th, 2012, 12:44 PM
http://i17.servimg.com/u/f17/11/97/59/03/wayne167.jpg (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=11609&u=11975903)

ethanedwards
December 17th, 2012, 04:16 PM
Great pic Larry

Gorch
December 17th, 2012, 06:38 PM
I agree. It's iconic. Thanks for giving us a look.




We deal in lead, friend.

lasbugas
December 19th, 2012, 01:27 PM
http://i17.servimg.com/u/f17/11/97/59/03/wayne177.jpg (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=11625&u=11975903)