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ethanedwards February 8th, 2006, 11:23 AM McQ
DIRECTED BY JOHN STURGES
EXECUTIVE PRODUCER- MICHAEL WAYNE
MUSIC BY ELMER BERNSTEIN
BATJAC/LEVY-GARDNER PRODUCTION
WARNER BROS
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INFORMATION FROM IMDb
Plot Summary
Police Lieutenant Lon McQ investigates the killing of his best friend
and uncovers corrupt elements of the police department dealing in confiscated drugs.
In Seattle, two uniformed police officers and plainclothesman Stan Boyle are found shot,
to death, early one morning.
Boyle's partner, Lt. Lon McQ, is certain local hood Manuel Santiago is behind these killings,
especially after a known hitman employed by Santiago tries to kill McQ.
Defying the orders of his superior, Captain Ed Kosterman, McQ tails Santiago
. After confrontations with both Santiago and Kosterman and despite the sympathy
of city councilman Franklin Toms, McQ enlists the help of private detective "Pinky" Farrell,
and soon becomes involved in a major narcotics deal - one
that blows up in the face of both McQ and Santiago
and which leads to the discovery of a stunning secret for McQ.
Summary written by Jim Beaver
Full Cast
John Wayne .... Det. Lt. Lon McQ
Eddie Albert .... Capt. Ed Kosterman
Diana Muldaur .... Lois Boyle
Colleen Dewhurst .... Myra
Clu Gulager .... Franklin Toms
David Huddleston .... Edward M. 'Pinky' Farrow
Jim Watkins .... J.C. Davis
Al Lettieri .... Manny Santiago
Julie Adams .... Elaine Forrester
Roger E. Mosley .... Rosey
William Bryant .... Sgt. Stan Boyle
Richard Kelton .... Radical
Richard Eastham .... Walter Forrester
Dick Friel .... Bob Mahoney
Joe Tornatore .... LaSalle
Fred M. Waugh .... Bodyguard (as Fred Waugh)
Chuck Roberson .... Bodyguard (uncredited)
Kim Sanford .... Ginger (uncredited)
Writing Credits
Lawrence Roman
Produced
Arthur Gardner .... producer
Jules V. Levy .... producer (as Jules Levy)
Lawrence Roman .... co-producer
Michael Wayne .... executive producer
Original Music
Elmer Bernstein
Cinematography
Harry Stradling Jr.
Stunts
Gary McLarty .... stunt driver
Hal Needham .... stunt driver
Denny Arnold .... stunts (uncredited)
Chuck Roberson .... stunts (uncredited)
Fred M. Waugh .... stunts (uncredited)
Glenn R. Wilder .... stunts (uncredited)
Trivia
Sneak previewed in Seattle, Washington, where the production was filmed, on 4 January 1974.
This is the only movie that western-director John Sturges and cowboy-actor John Wayne made together.
Although John Wayne claimed he made this movie because he regretted turning down Dirty Harry (1971), it has been suggested that he was never actually offered the earlier movie due to his age.
The film is noted for introducing the infamous MAC-10 submachine gun to the general public and creating a demand for it.
Kim Sanford is dubbed.
The movie was heavily influenced by Bullitt (1968) and Dirty Harry (1971).
The hospital where the drug heist takes place is now the Seattle headquarters of Amazon.com.
Stuntman (and later director) Hal Needham designed the car chase at the end of this film. It featured the first staged rollover of a car in film history.
The car chase finale was filmed on the Olympic Peninsula; there were filming delays when the beach was foggy.
Although he had occasionally played sheriffs and lawmen in his many Westerns, this was the only one of two movies of John Wayne's career in which he played a cop.
Ocean Shores Guide
1973 "McQ," a John Wayne movie, with a 75-member crew of Batjac Productions which was stationed in Ocean Shores motels for 28 days, beginning July 2 with producer Michael Wayne. The leading lady was Coleen Dewherst, and other stars - Diana Muldaur and Eddie Albert. While casting on the north beaches, many Ocean Shores residents were included in the filming. Bobby Widmer, Ocean Shores fireman, was the ambulance driver. "JOHN WAVE" was designated to be hereafter the big seventh ocean wave, in dedication to "Big John" Wayne and his crew.
Goofs
* Revealing mistakes: McQ uses an Ingram MAC-10 9mm machine pistol, which fires approximately 20 rounds per second. When firing the MAC-10 in the car, on the beach, no empty cartridges are ejected from the gun. Emptying a full 30 round magazine would have sprayed casings all over the car.
* Continuity: At one point, the parting in Eddie Albert's hair changes from one side to the other and back again.
* Audio/visual unsynchronized: None of McQ's daughter's lines match what she's saying. It appears that her entire dialog was overdubbed by another actress.
* Continuity: After McQ shows Myra the balloons of cocaine in his handkerchief, and gets up from the chair, the balloons roll off the handkerchief and onto the floor. When he is rebuffed by Myra, and returns to the chair, the cocaine is back on the handkerchief and not on the floor.
* Audio/visual unsynchronized: After McQ finishes his visit to his ex-wife, her husband and his daughter he turns around and begins to walk away. He doesn't stay on the sidewalk but cuts across the grass. Walking sounds are dubbed in here of someone walking on a hard surface that would not be made by someone walking on grass.
* Continuity: At the concession stand, McQ shows Rosey "five bills" in the newspaper then folds the paper closed. Cut to a different angle and the paper is slightly open and the bills are visible. Cut back to the first angle and the paper is closed again.
* Factual errors: When Myra is murdered, the hitter uses a revolver with a silencer. A silencer only works when all the gases from the propellant which discharges the round are channeled through it. Semi-automatics and automatics do this by design. Revolvers, however, have multiple points at which the gases escape (e.g. the hammer, the cylinder and the barrel), rendering the silencer useless.
* Continuity: When following the laundry van McQ's car takes a short cut over very dust ground, it re-enters the highway covered in dust. Just before entering the tunnel there is an overhead shot of the car where it is very clean, once out of the tunnel the car is dusty again.
* Continuity: At the end of the movie in the beach gun shooting scene, all three of the cars and occupants are at the edge of the surf, with waves coming up past the cars. As one of the bad guys walks up, he is walking up through the surf to get the briefcase when McQ fires at the briefcase, which can be seen partially in the water. As the guy jumps back, he is clearly up on dry sand, way up from the surf.
* Errors made by characters (possibly deliberate errors by the filmmakers): At the end of the movie in the beach gun shooting scene, the occupant in the first car wakes up and grabs his gun when McQ is facing towards the second car (and the briefcase in the water). If you were guying to try to shoot a guy with an automatic gun, would you stay in your seat and quietly shoot him in the back (with the window to steady your shot), or would you do as he did and make noise by opening the car door?
* Factual errors: When McQ (John Wayne) breaks into warehouse and isolates the alarm he clips the bypass cable to the wrong side of the circuit (door).
Memorable Quotes (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0071824/quotes)
Filming Location
Aberdeen, Washington, USA
Quinault Indian Reservation, Washington, USA
Seattle, Washington, USA
Ocean Shores, Washington, USA
Watch the Trailer:-
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Previous discussion:-
McQ (http://www.dukewayne.com/showthread.php?t=1761)
ethanedwards February 8th, 2006, 11:27 AM Hi,
As the title suggests, it is widely believed that
this film was originally made for Steve McQueen!
but as Duke, had turned down the chance to play Dirty Harry
Duke quoted at the time,
I felt like a change, but I had to stick to action movies,of course,
and the tough cop thriller is where all the action is, these days
However he wasn't happy about making the film,
and thought the story hackneyed, and the script stilted.
Filmed in and around Seattle, I thought this film was well acted, well paced,
and I actually thought it had a good storyline and script.
It also featured, a beach car chase and shoot-out, that was second to none.
However, the film was panned by critics, and slammed as mediocre.
claiming that it was a series of action shots, rather than a movie
Both McQ and Brannigan failed, to ignite audiences, who
thought the idea of a paunchy 67 year old Duke charging around,as a policeman
all a bit preposterous!
In other words, he'd missed the boat!!
However, after all what was said, I throughly
enjoyed both these films,
ethanedwards February 8th, 2006, 11:42 AM Hi,
As this film was reviewed in the wrong forum,
I have now moved it, and it's replies, across to this, the correct forum.
There is also a link, to previous older threads, relating to the movie.
chester7777*
post Jan 4 2006, 07:20 AM
QUOTE(ethanedwards @ Jan 3 2006, 03:16 AM)
Both McQ and BRANNIGAN failed, to ignite audiences, who
thought the idea of a paunchy 67 year old Duke charging around,as a policeman
all a bit preposterous!
*
I think that says it all.
I'm sure the only reason I enjoy this and Brannigan is because John Wayne is in them.
We take the good with the not so good.
Chester :newyear:
InHarmsWay*
post Jan 10 2006, 06:04 AM
Ahh steve mcqueen would have been equally great in this, I can see they had a fast,sexy car for Mcqueen as look what duke is riding. Im in love with that car alone and duke's performance is mediocre, better than Brannigan IMO.
-IHW
DukePilgrim*
post Jan 20 2006, 12:52 PM
Whilst accepting Duke was too old for the role it was an acceptable attempt at the detective genre.
Link to the previous thread;-
McQ (1974) (http://www.dukewayne.com/showthread.php?t=2641)
Robbie February 8th, 2006, 06:19 PM I think this is quite a decent John Wayne movie with plenty happening in it and a good plot to hold the entire movie together. The Duke is on fine form playing out a few scenes he would usually not be associated with, the actions well directed and its good to see that there are plenty of villains for the Duke to deal with which makes a nice change.
I would rank it 6.5/10
Keith
For your records there are several deleted scenes from this movie such as Boyles funeral, interestingly there are pictures available of the deleted scenes on a photograpic website called Bonanza. I cant remember the link but Chester provided it some years ago maybe he could refresh our memories.
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chester7777 February 10th, 2006, 12:02 AM Originally posted by Robbie@Feb 8 2006, 03:19 PM
For your records there are several deleted scenes from this movie such as Boyles funeral, interestingly there are pictures available of the deleted scenes on a photograpic website called Bonanza. I cant remember the link but Chester provided it some years ago maybe he could refresh our memories.
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Robbie,
Ask, and it shall be given -
Photo Bonanza and other pertinent information (http://www.dukewayne.com/showthread.php?t=2853) :D .
Chester :newyear:
Robbie February 10th, 2006, 07:09 PM Thanks Chester, its an excellent web site.
Below is a link to a deleted scene which is presumably Stan Boyles funeral.
http://www.netropolisusa.biz/mptv/cgi-bin/...ll&tt=&bool=and (http://www.netropolisusa.biz/mptv/cgi-bin/imageFolio.cgi?action=view&link=Image_Vault_Classic/Archive_V_thru_Z/John_Wayne&image=3587-0094.jpg&img=0&search=mcq%20wayne&cat=all&tt=&bool=and)
Below is another from that same scene:
http://www.netropolisusa.biz/mptv/cgi-bin/...ll&tt=&bool=and (http://www.netropolisusa.biz/mptv/cgi-bin/imageFolio.cgi?action=view&link=Image_Vault_Classic/Archive_V_thru_Z/John_Wayne&image=3587-0078.jpg&img=0&search=mcq%20wayne&cat=all&tt=&bool=and)
Below are some more deleted scenes but I am unsure as to what part of the plot they are from.
http://www.netropolisusa.biz/mptv/cgi-bin/...ll&tt=&bool=and (http://www.netropolisusa.biz/mptv/cgi-bin/imageFolio.cgi?action=view&link=Image_Vault_Classic/Archive_V_thru_Z/John_Wayne&image=3587-0055.jpg&img=20&search=McQ%20Wayne&cat=all&tt=&bool=and)
http://www.netropolisusa.biz/mptv/cgi-bin/...ll&tt=&bool=and (http://www.netropolisusa.biz/mptv/cgi-bin/imageFolio.cgi?action=view&link=Image_Vault_Classic/Archive_V_thru_Z/John_Wayne&image=3587-0053.jpg&img=20&search=McQ%20Wayne&cat=all&tt=&bool=and)
http://www.netropolisusa.biz/mptv/cgi-bin/...ll&tt=&bool=and (http://www.netropolisusa.biz/mptv/cgi-bin/imageFolio.cgi?action=view&link=Image_Vault_Classic/Archive_V_thru_Z/John_Wayne&image=3587-0050.jpg&img=20&search=McQ%20Wayne&cat=all&tt=&bool=and)
http://www.netropolisusa.biz/mptv/cgi-bin/...ll&tt=&bool=and (http://www.netropolisusa.biz/mptv/cgi-bin/imageFolio.cgi?action=view&link=Image_Vault_Classic/Archive_V_thru_Z/John_Wayne&image=3587-0033.jpg&img=40&search=McQ%20Wayne&cat=all&tt=&bool=and)
And I don't know whats going on here, maybe someone else can explain.
http://www.netropolisusa.biz/mptv/cgi-bin/...ll&tt=&bool=and (http://www.netropolisusa.biz/mptv/cgi-bin/imageFolio.cgi?action=view&link=Image_Vault_Classic/Archive_V_thru_Z/John_Wayne&image=3587-0042.jpg&img=20&search=McQ%20Wayne&cat=all&tt=&bool=and)
For me personally I find it fascinating to view these pictures from deleted scenes. These are the first pictures of any deleted scene from a John Wayne movie that I have ever come across and from McQ of all movies. I would be very interested to hear where this web site got them from as pictures of McQ are generally not that well circualted on the web as a whole.
:agent:
Danny Wilde February 14th, 2006, 08:12 AM I first saw McQ on Dutch television as a late night movie on a saturday night back in 1984. I thought it was nice to see John Wayne as a cop for a change. The action scenes were well done and I thoroughly enjoyed the movie. I bought the Region 1 Warner DVD release last year and it was nice to see the behind the scenes documentary included. Of course it would have been better if they had given it the "Batjac" treatment (like The High and the Mighty release on DVD) and included the information about deleted scenes, production photos, film posters etcetera, but the movie looked very fresh in the digital format!
ethanedwards February 14th, 2006, 09:12 AM On the Cutting Room Floor
Apparently, this scene is missing!!
McQ meets a woman, at the hospital reception desk,
Diana Muldar, looks over the womans shoulder.
Duke is obviously trying to find out where is partner is,
after being shot.
However, in the final cut, Duke and Muldar, are already in the hospital room
Robbie February 15th, 2006, 09:26 AM Danny Wilde
Does the High and the mightly DVD include delteted scenes?
Keith
Do you know where the scenes with Duke in the raincoat (on the links above) relate to in accordance with the final movie?
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ethanedwards February 15th, 2006, 10:36 AM Originally posted by Robbie@Feb 15 2006, 02:26 PM
Keith
Do you know where the scenes with Duke in the raincoat (on the links above) relate to in accordance with the final movie?
:agent:
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Hi Robbie,
The scenes in the raincoat, are apparently just before he visits,
his partner, in his hospital room, just after he had been shot.
However, these scenes, in the hospital reception, as he and his Mulder,
are trying to assertain his partners room, were cut,
so we only see them in his room.
chester7777 February 17th, 2006, 03:26 AM Deep Discount DVD (http://search.deepdiscountdvd.com/search?p=Q&srid=S7-1&ts=custom&lbc=deepdiscountdvd&uid=421919411&w=McQ) has this movie, in sets and individually, along with 2 movie posters.
Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/gp/search/ref=nb_ss_gw/002-3581901-1689624?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=McQ&Go.x=0&Go.y=0&Go=Go) has it on DVD, and also offers an audio CD soundtrack.
Chester :newyear:
Robbie February 17th, 2006, 02:34 PM Hi Keith
I recently watched this movie and prior to entering the hospital Duke was involved in a shootout during which he wore a nifty purple jacket. In the next scene he is in the hospital and still has this jacket on. The setting is of a warm and dry day so it makes no sense that he would put his raincoat on entering the hospital only for it to disappear once he met louis, are there any other explanations?
:agent:
ethanedwards February 17th, 2006, 03:46 PM Hi Robbie,
I'll scan the film later, and see if I can slot this in!!
If you have THE JOHN WAYNE REFERENCE BOOK
there is actually a still, in there, from this scene.
Anyway, I'll post later,
Bek February 18th, 2006, 07:02 PM Watched this movie last night, and quite liked it, I also enjoyed seeing the Duke as a cop, I thought he played McQ really well.
ethanedwards February 18th, 2006, 08:29 PM Originally posted by Robbie@Feb 17 2006, 07:34 PM
Hi Keith
I recently watched this movie and prior to entering the hospital Duke was involved in a shootout during which he wore a nifty purple jacket. In the next scene he is in the hospital and still has this jacket on. The setting is of a warm and dry day so it makes no sense that he would put his raincoat on entering the hospital only for it to disappear once he met louis, are there any other explanations?
:agent:
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Hi Robbie,
There seems to be no explanation to this one!!
You're right, he's wearing this short purple jacket, in and out of the
hospital, and is wearing this, for most of the first half.
The raincoat doesn't appear, untill after he comes out of hospital,
after being squashed by the trucks.
The time he has it on, with Diana, is when he picks up her, and the loot,
and drive to the beach, and the end of the film.
So where, where they, when this scene was shot, it's a mystery????
Robbie February 20th, 2006, 06:04 PM It is interesting, I am sure it is not a behind the scenes photo. Could it have been Duke and Louis in the policestation after McQ realises her true colours?
Its interesting to see that only McQ thus far from the Bonanza website has pictures in relation to deleted scenes.
:agent:
DukePilgrim March 6th, 2006, 04:55 PM I have finally got Mc Q on Region 2.
Bought a copy from Europe. Great little promo for Mc Q and the trailers are nice touch.
1 less sale in UK because they were TOO TOO slow to release it :angry: :angry:
Mike
William T Brooks March 8th, 2006, 09:54 AM I put this up a few years ago about Duke and Pat Stacy going on location for the Film "McQ" and the Mobs of Fans that Pat had to Deal with. You can go to
ON LOCATION FOR "McQ" ('http://www.ranch26bar.com/DUKESTORIES2.html')
Chilibill :cowboy:
dc65 September 23rd, 2006, 10:04 AM This was the third or fourth John Wayne movie that I ever saw and I think it's pretty good. I don't care if he turned down Dirty Harry or not, because this seventies cop movie is great. The music is a guilty pleasure of mine. I love it. It's pretty well acted and fairly well written.
My favourite line is when he's in the hospital after his car gets crushed.
Doctor (looking at x ray): There's no fracture... I don't see any other apparent injuries.
Duke: Well it may not be apparent, but you oughtta feel it from my side.
Senta September 23rd, 2006, 11:04 AM Originally posted by DukePilgrim@Mar 7 2006, 12:55 AM
I* have finally got Mc Q on Region 2.
Bought a copy from Europe. Great little promo for Mc Q and the trailers are nice touch.
1 less sale in UK because they were TOO TOO slow to release it :angry:* :angry:
Mike
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Hi Mike,
In what country it was released in Reg.2?
Regards,
Senta :rolleyes:
DukePilgrim September 23rd, 2006, 03:09 PM Hi Senta
I got mine from Finland but I have seen them selling on Ebay from Germany so I would suspect they are out there too.
Mike
Senta September 23rd, 2006, 03:14 PM Originally posted by DukePilgrim@Sep 23 2006, 10:09 PM
I got mine from Finland 34811
It's great. I will be there soon and try to catch it. When I was there in August there was no sign of McQ.
Thanks,
Senta :rolleyes:
chester7777 February 26th, 2007, 01:57 AM Here is another theater poster, from the collection of Les Adams in Abilene, Texas.
Kevin June 3rd, 2007, 07:54 PM xHG3h-9XRJ0
Zoom Zoom. Goes about 50 different directions between ID, Beacon Hill, and under the Rainier Beer plant and back, and then to S. Lake Union.
Tbone June 12th, 2007, 12:49 PM Neat little comment clips!
DukePilgrim June 12th, 2007, 02:32 PM Great clip and Neat Comments
Thanks Kevin
So like typical drivers in Belfast at the rushhour!!!
Mike
chester7777 June 16th, 2007, 09:44 AM Like the others, I enjoyed the comments throughout. I especially got a kick out of the notes about the "dirty car" and "clean car" which I have to admit I probably wouldn't have noticed (at least not on the first viewing).
Chester :newyear:
gt12pak June 16th, 2007, 10:09 PM Aaaaaaaaaa! That makes me wanna go zoom zoom like Kevin said. My wife oftens accuses me of driving like that. :hyper:
Chester, I don't think that was a blooper about the dirty car, clean car. Duke was going so fast that he just blew all the dirt off.:wink_smile:
ejgreen77 August 18th, 2007, 11:05 AM Well, I just watched this movie again last night, so I wrote up a review of it on IMdB, you can check it out if you want to at:
http://us.imdb.com/user/ur4059131/comments
DukePilgrim August 18th, 2007, 06:55 PM A fair and honest review ejgreen77. I always felt McQ had moments in it that were very unusual for a John Wayne movie. Whilst there are great action sequences in Mc Q it is a serious story and as you say he went for a more light hearted approach in Brannigan.
Mike
ColeThornton September 8th, 2007, 08:41 AM This was the only Duke movie I saw which I didn't like. Maybe it was because he was about ten years too old to be believable as a policeman, but I just found the film depressing and dull. At least "Brannigan" had more humour and a few exciting fight scenes.
Lt. Brannigan September 10th, 2007, 10:56 AM I liked McQ, hell I enjoy everything he did in the 70's with the exception of Chisum.
ColeThornton September 10th, 2007, 11:44 AM Chisum wasn't really the Seventies though as it was filmed in 1969. What did you dislike about it? I thought it was a bit overlong, but definitely better than McQ.
Lt. Brannigan September 10th, 2007, 12:09 PM It was too long, and it was boring. I just couldn't get into it.
BILL OF PA September 10th, 2007, 01:51 PM hard to please everyone's taste. like MC Q hard nose cop film did not like BRANNIGAN.:ohmy:
ColeThornton September 10th, 2007, 01:58 PM Well it depends what you're looking for I suppose. If Wayne had been 57 he could have played a tough cop, but not at 67. I guess that's why I preferred the more comedic feel of Brannigan. Also it was his only movie in England.
The Ringo Kid September 12th, 2007, 08:26 PM Another I have seen several times of, over the years and I have always enjoyed it. I did a double take when I saw Roger E. Moseley (T.C. of Magnum P.I. fame) and immediately liked the movie a bit more.
chester7777 September 12th, 2007, 11:42 PM I did a double take when I saw Roger E. Moseley (T.C. of Magnum P.I. fame)
That was us, too. We recognized his voice before we recognized his face.
ColeThornton September 13th, 2007, 09:36 AM Do you know if anyone tried to talk Wayne out of playing a cop? Did he himself have doubts about making this movie at the age of 67?
The Ringo Kid September 13th, 2007, 06:41 PM That was us, too. We recognized his voice before we recognized his face.
Ditto on hearing his voice. I also wish that he had not played the part of a pimp/drug dealer. I think he would have made a good partner of sorts, for Dukes character.
ColeThornton September 28th, 2007, 02:43 PM I thought Roger gave one of the few good performances in that film.
DukePilgrim September 28th, 2007, 04:55 PM Must admit I enjoy Mc Q and Brannigan it would have been nicer if he had been younger for those roles but I still like them.
I think money was one of the reasons why Duke kept taking a lot of roles. Bo Roos plus his son in law mistakes handling his money , bad investments plus a lot of Wayne's too support was the reasons why JW was not able to retire or move to directing which is wanted to.
Mike
Senta October 14th, 2007, 11:36 AM Watched McQ for the first time in these days and sure like Duke in it. But movie is depressing, I completly agree with Ejgreen and all he write in his brilliant review. As about the whole movie I feel that it is simply not my period of cinematography.
Regards,
Senta
Lt. Brannigan October 15th, 2007, 11:41 AM If John Wayne had been younger when he made these movies, they would have indeed been freaking awesome. They would have reeked of awesomeness!
etsija November 6th, 2007, 07:50 AM This may be the only JW movie I wish was not made. I quite like Brannigan, but McQ is just a pathetic attempt to copy Dirty Harry. Duke looks ill and that's sad to watch.
DukePilgrim November 6th, 2007, 10:16 AM Not as sad as Jet Pilot (Flying Fraternity excepted who like looking at the planes) or The Conqueor which has no redeeming features and a very dodgy location.
Mike
etsija November 6th, 2007, 10:43 AM Jet Pilot and The Conqueror are hilarious, even though the humour is partly unintended. They have real action, not the tired kind of McQ. And if nothing else they offer pleasure to the eye. The only thing to make The Conqueror a sad case is if its making contributed towards Duke's and others' illness
BILL OF PA November 13th, 2007, 12:48 PM estsija! i agree jet pilots and the conqueror are hilarious for all the wrong reasons. but i liked the story line in MCQ better then BRANNIGAN. he was a little old for both movies.:yeaahh:
QuirtEvans January 13th, 2008, 02:39 PM Actually I think McQ was more of a copy of Bullitt than Dirty Harry. I quite enjoyed both of the Duke's cop movies, even though he was clearly too old.
Robbie January 13th, 2008, 06:32 PM Actually I think McQ was more of a copy of Bullitt than Dirty Harry. I quite enjoyed both of the Duke's cop movies, even though he was clearly too old.
With respect I disagree, I feel his age is irrelevant and if anything it makes the character more interesting. Lon McQ has a history, his personal life has fallen apart in the past, yet when it comes to police work there is a wealth of experience to draw from.
There is nothing in the script to indicate that McQ should be a young man, only the critics ever made an issue of Dukes age while playing this role and these were the same critics who were stating that Duke was too old to be acting.
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DukePilgrim January 15th, 2008, 05:01 PM I noticed Channel 5 edited parts of Mc Q for violence and language when it was shown on Sunday. His car is bashed only once and the nurse is not heard to react to his disappearance from the hospital. Considering some of the programmes broadcast on this channel why edit a 35 year old movie!!!!
I dont think Duke looked too bad in this movie. Considering his health was quite good he is more than passable.
Mike
Robbie January 26th, 2008, 05:13 PM Channel 5 is notorious for cutting large segments from movies, "McQ," got of fairly lightly. I remember watching "Big Jake," in which most of the opening sequence at the ranch was cut out (obviously considered too violent).
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dukefan1 April 7th, 2008, 02:01 AM Here is an example of the book from the movie.
Mark
http://www.dukewayne.com/imagehosting/2147f9b8674b035.jpg
Lt. Brannigan April 7th, 2008, 08:42 PM I wonder if that book is any good, cause the one for McLintock is horrible.
kilo 6 April 9th, 2008, 02:42 AM nice beach scene & fence shakedown for info
chester7777 April 9th, 2008, 08:58 AM Here is an example of the book from the movie.
Mark
http://www.dukewayne.com/imagehosting/2147f9b8674b035.jpg
It would appear that this book was written AFTER the movie, since it is a "novel . . . based on a screenplay . . . ." In that case, the book and the movie should be fairly close.
Mark, what is your opinion of the book?
Chester :newyear:
dukefan1 April 9th, 2008, 09:55 AM You are right, Jim. It's a companion novel to the movie. It is very much like the movie, just going into more detail. What I like about a book, is the writer can write what the character is thinking and how they are feeling in different situations. If I remember correctly there are a few added scenes in the book that were added after the movie. It just struck me as I typed this, the scene Robbie talked about being cut out of the movie between McQ and Rosey the informant, I believe, is in the book. Since it was written from the screenplay, maybe the scene was left on the cutting room floor from the movie, but kept in the book. Hmmm, interesting.
If you liked the movie, you'll like the book. You can find most of the books on ebay for pretty cheap. Just a few go for alot. I keep getting outbid everytime a copy of Tall In The Saddle goes up for auction, but I'll get one someday...when other bidders ain't lookin'. :wink_smile:
Mark
ethanedwards April 9th, 2008, 10:35 AM Thankd for all that Mark, and it makes interesting reading.
Perhaps you wouild be good enough to post the bit about the missing scene,
on the new threads I've set up for Robbie.
Duke's Deleted And Missing Scenes- Discussion (http://www.dukewayne.com/showthread.php?t=3799)
Robbie has posted this scene clip or photo, in the sticky thread
Duke's Deleted And Missing Scenes (http://www.dukewayne.com/showthread.php?t=3730)
ethanedwards January 31st, 2009, 01:40 PM On UK TV this evening.
LuckyNedPepper is watching it now,
and badger for the first time.
Let us know what you think of the film,
when you've seen it.
luckynedpepper January 31st, 2009, 03:22 PM watched McQ just now and it's a decent film but like i've said before it's behind Brannigan in my opinion
badger January 31st, 2009, 03:37 PM i really enjoyed this film - it was easy to get into, the story line was good and, for me, john wayne is at his magnificent best when he is playing the lone hero, doing things his way.
Cole Thornton May 31st, 2009, 02:53 PM I got the McQ DVD for Christmas as well as the soundtrack. It's good to see Duke in an updated setting, and the on-location shooting in Seattle is a plus, too. I'll bet the area has changed a lot since 1974!
I like those early-70s urban crime dramas, like Bullitt and Dirty Harry and I'm glad that Duke got the chance to try his hand at it. Between Billitt, Callahan, and Lon McQ, the Pacific Northwest was in good hands as far as cleaning up criminals!
Lt. Brannigan June 10th, 2009, 02:28 AM This is one of my favorite Duke films, when I was wee lad no older than six I watched this and Brannigan over and over.
Robbie June 20th, 2009, 06:30 PM "McQ," and "Brannigan" are two grossly underrated John Wayne movies in my opinion, if anyone gets an opportunity try to catch these movies again.
:agent:
Jay J. Foraker June 21st, 2009, 12:19 AM "McQ," and "Brannigan" are two grossly underrated John Wayne movies in my opinion, if anyone gets an opportunity try to catch these movies again.:agent:
My sentiments exactly, Robbie. For various reasons, some fans don't like these two contemporary films of Duke's, but his presence simply makes them good!
Cole Thornton June 27th, 2009, 12:51 PM I've seen McQ many times, but Brannigan maybe once, and that was years ago. I have a jpeg of the poster that is quite impressive! I'll try and post it in the Brannigan thread.
And yes, these Duke cop movies are grossly underrated! If a younger, "hipper" actor of that era had played those characters, the view of those movies would be quite different!
And let's not forget who was asked to play Dirty Harry way before Clint made it his career-defining role. Duke was definitely regretting that decision to pass on Dirty Harry.
Elly June 27th, 2009, 02:59 PM ..............
And let's not forget who was asked to play Dirty Harry way before Clint made it his career-defining role. Duke was definitely regretting that decision to pass on Dirty Harry.
Firstly not quite sure about what you mean by a hipper actor LOL
secondly not sure I agree with this JW said a few times he was gald he turned down the role cos he did not like the violence and language that had crept into films by then.
just my thoughts on the subject
Cole Thornton June 27th, 2009, 04:39 PM Firstly not quite sure about what you mean by a hipper actor LOL
secondly not sure I agree with this JW said a few times he was gald he turned down the role cos he did not like the violence and language that had crept into films by then.
just my thoughts on the subject
Notice that I put "hipper" in quotes...hipper-- meaning a trendy, flavor-of-the-month actor circa 1974.
And if Duke didn't agree initially with the DH content, he didn't waste any time starring in a knock-off of same. I'm still glad that he did, though, as McQ is a favorite Duke film of mine.
Lt. Brannigan June 27th, 2009, 05:58 PM I myself quite like the two cop movies he did, although Brannigan is my favorite of the two.
chester7777 June 27th, 2009, 06:25 PM I myself quite like the two cop movies he did, although Brannigan is my favorite of the two.
Funny that YOU would say that . . . :biggrin:!
Lt. Brannigan June 27th, 2009, 07:13 PM Funny that YOU would say that . . . :biggrin:!
Isn't it though? :teeth_smile:
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wtrayah November 15th, 2011, 05:58 PM Can't picture him in that sports car. Too old for this kinda cop .
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