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ethanedwards February 22nd, 2006, 06:03 AM IN OLD OKLAHOMA
also known as WAR OF THE WILDCATS
DIRECTED BY ALBERT S. ROGELL
MUSIC BY WALTER SCHARF
REPUBLIC PICTURES
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INFORMATION FROM IMDb
Plot Summary
Cowboy Dan Somers and oilman Jim "Hunk" Gardner compete for oil lease rights on Indian land in Oklahoma, as well as for the favors of schoolteacher Cathy Allen.
Summary written by Jim Beaver
Writing credits (in alphabetical order)
Thomson Burtis adaptation
Thomson Burtis story War of the Wildcats
Eleanore Griffith screenplay
Ethel Hill screenplay
Full Cast
John Wayne .... Daniel F. Somers
Martha Scott .... Catherine Elizabeth Allen
Albert Dekker .... Jim 'Hunk' Gardner (president, Gardner Oil Co.)
George 'Gabby' Hayes .... Despirit Dean (stage driver)
Marjorie Rambeau .... Bessie Baxter (hotel proprietor)
Dale Evans .... Cuddles Walker (dance-hall singer)
Grant Withers .... Richardson (head driller)
Sidney Blackmer .... Teddy Roosevelt
Paul Fix .... Cherokee Kid
Cecil Cunningham .... Mrs. Ames
Irving Bacon .... Ben (telegraph operator)
Byron Foulger .... Wilkins
Anne O'Neal .... Mrs. Peabody
Richard Graham .... Walter Ames
Charles Agnew .... (uncredited)
Stanley Andrews .... Mason (Indian agent) (uncredited)
Charles Arnt .... Joe (train conductor) (uncredited)
Hooper Atchley .... Witherspoon's Assistant (uncredited)
Roy Barcroft .... Oil worker on train (uncredited)
Charles Bates .... Little Sun (uncredited)
Bill Borzage .... Dan's man (oiler) (uncredited)
Dick Botiller .... Blake (oiler) (uncredited)
Linda Brent .... Dance-hall girl (uncredited)
Yakima Canutt .... (uncredited)
Jess Cavin .... Barfly (uncredited)
Eddy Chandler .... McCann, Gardner's Oil Man (uncredited)
George Chandler .... (uncredited)
Lane Chandler .... Card player on train (uncredited)
Juanita Colteaux .... (uncredited)
Mary Jane Croft .... Dance-hall girl (uncredited)
Wade Crosby .... Corrigan (oiler) (uncredited)
William B. Davidson .... Master of Ceremonies (uncredited)
Babe DeFreest .... (uncredited)
Myrna Dell .... Blonde (uncredited)
John Dilson .... Witherspoon's Clerk (uncredited)
Curley Dresden .... Second randy train passenger (uncredited)
Kenne Duncan .... Indignant businessman on train (uncredited)
Pearl Early .... Mrs. Simpson (uncredited)
Rhonda Fleming .... Dance-hall girl (uncredited)
Edward Gargan .... Kelsey (waiter) (uncredited)
Bud Geary .... Miller (card player on train) (uncredited)
Gus Glassmire .... Secretary of the Interior (uncredited)
Fred Graham .... Gardner's man (uncredited)
Bonnie Jean Hartley .... Saloon girl (uncredited)
Al Hill .... Waiter (uncredited)
Pat Hogan .... (uncredited)
Charles Jordan .... Crawford (oiler) (uncredited)
Jack Kenny .... Dan's man (oiler) (uncredited)
Jack Kirk .... First randy train passenger (uncredited)
Mike Lally .... Gardner's oil man (uncredited)
Arthur Loft .... Fenton (uncredited)
Tom London .... Tom (farmer on train) (uncredited)
LeRoy Mason .... Promoter (uncredited)
Frank McCarroll .... Train passenger (uncredited)
June Pickerell .... Farmer's wife (uncredited)
Rebel Randall .... Woman on train (uncredited)
Jack Raymond .... Oil worker (uncredited)
Bob Reeves .... (uncredited)
Dick Rich .... Card player on train (uncredited)
Shirley Jean Rickert .... (uncredited)
Linda Scott .... (uncredited)
Harry Shannon .... Charlie Witherspoon (uncredited)
Charles Sherlock .... Scared wagon driver (uncredited)
Tom Steele .... Man on train (uncredited)
Larry Stewart .... Vendor on train (uncredited)
Oril Taller .... (uncredited)
Emmett Vogan .... President Roosevelt's aide (uncredited)
Robert Warwick .... Chief Big Tree (uncredited)
Slim Whitaker .... Man on train (uncredited)
Harry Woods .... Al Dalton (uncredited)
Will Wright .... Doctor (uncredited)
Produced by
Robert North .... associate producer
Stunts
Yakima Canutt .... stunts (uncredited)
Filming Locations
Kanab, Utah, USA
Zion National Park, Springdale, Utah, USA
ethanedwards February 22nd, 2006, 06:08 AM Hi,
Duke squares up to Albert Dekker, in this satisfactory oater,
with Gabby Hayes, as usual, giving brilliant support..
The studio gave the film expensive trappings, loading the sets, with anything
they could get their hands on.
The film climaxed with dozens of oil-laden wagons racing towards the refinery,
despite brush fires, and all the other dastardly obstacles, the villains, put in their paths.
The NYTimes said,
Wayne is as convincing as a knock-out punch
Even though it seemed a harmless western, the film, got bogged down
with ideological landmines, to do with the treatment of Indians etc.
However the studios ignored all the fuss, and turned in a successful film,
making it REPUBLIC'S only picture to break into that years, top grossers list.
Duke was singled out for his performance in the film,
with one reviewer, saying
they had never seen him better
This was the Wayne REPUBLIC wanted America to see and hear about:
Sincere, Truthful, Manly.
Rating 7/10
chester7777 February 23rd, 2006, 01:50 AM This is one of those titles that is difficult (maybe impossible) to get. We checked Amazon (which said "THIS TITLE IS CURRENTLY NOT AVAILABLE. If you would like to purchase this title, we recommend that you occasionally check this page to see if it has become available.), Deep Discount DVD, Critic's Choice Video, ebay (which had a nice selection of memorabilia related to the movie), and Bygone Video ([Only registered and activated users can see links]), and NObody had it. If anybody else has had success in finding a source for this movie, let us know.
Chester :newyear:
Senta May 4th, 2006, 12:26 AM Originally posted by chester7777@Feb 23 2006, 08:50 AM
This is one of those titles that is difficult (maybe impossible) to get.* We checked Amazon (which said "THIS TITLE IS CURRENTLY NOT AVAILABLE. If you would like to purchase this title, we recommend that you occasionally check this page to see if it has become available.), Deep Discount DVD, Critic's Choice Video, ebay (which had a nice selection of memorabilia related to the movie), and Bygone Video ([Only registered and activated users can see links]), and NObody had it.* If anybody else has had success in finding a source for this movie, let us know.
Chester :newyear:
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Hi,
It is available in the big UK DVD John Wayne Collection>
Regards,
Vera
wbbison May 4th, 2006, 06:47 AM Originally posted by Senta@May 3 2006, 10:26 PM
Hi,
It is available in the big UK DVD John Wayne Collection>
Regards,
Vera
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War of the Wildcats can be had (via DVD) by ordering it from [Only registered and activated users can see links] for a cost of $12.96.
wbbison May 4th, 2006, 07:07 AM Originally posted by wbbison@May 4 2006, 04:47 AM
War of the Wildcats can be had (via DVD) by ordering it from [Only registered and activated users can see links] for a cost of $12.96.
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Whoops! It is offered on Sep 1, 2006. My mistake.
wbbison
Les Adams May 5th, 2006, 01:03 PM Originally posted by ethanedwards@Feb 22 2006, 06:03 AM
IN OLD OKLAHOMA
also known as WAR OF THE WILDCATS
DIRECTED BY ALBERT S. ROGELL
MUSIC BY WALTER SCHARF
REPUBLIC PICTURES
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INFORMATION FROM IMDb
Plot Summary
Cowboy Dan Somers and oilman Jim "Hunk" Gardner compete for oil lease rights on Indian land in Oklahoma, as well as for the favors of schoolteacher Cathy Allen.
Summary written by Jim Beaver
Writing credits (in alphabetical order)
Thomson Burtis* adaptation
Thomson Burtis* story War of the Wildcats
Eleanore Griffith* screenplay
Ethel Hill* screenplay
Full Cast
John Wayne ....* Daniel F. Somers
Martha Scott ....* Catherine Elizabeth Allen
Albert Dekker ....* Jim 'Hunk' Gardner (president, Gardner Oil Co.)
George 'Gabby' Hayes ....* Despirit Dean (stage driver)
Marjorie Rambeau ....* Bessie Baxter (hotel proprietor)
Dale Evans ....* Cuddles Walker (dance-hall singer)
Grant Withers ....* Richardson (head driller)
Sidney Blackmer ....* Teddy Roosevelt
Paul Fix ....* Cherokee Kid
Cecil Cunningham ....* Mrs. Ames
Irving Bacon ....* Ben (telegraph operator)
Byron Foulger ....* Wilkins
Anne O'Neal ....* Mrs. Peabody
Richard Graham ....* Walter Ames
Charles Agnew ....* (uncredited)
Stanley Andrews ....* Mason (Indian agent) (uncredited)
Charles Arnt ....* Joe (train conductor) (uncredited)
Hooper Atchley ....* Witherspoon's Assistant (uncredited)
Roy Barcroft ....* Oil worker on train (uncredited)
Charles Bates ....* Little Sun (uncredited)
Bill Borzage ....* Dan's man (oiler) (uncredited)
Dick Botiller ....* Blake (oiler) (uncredited)
Linda Brent ....* Dance-hall girl (uncredited)
Yakima Canutt ....* (uncredited)
Jess Cavin ....* Barfly (uncredited)
Eddy Chandler ....* McCann, Gardner's Oil Man (uncredited)
George Chandler ....* (uncredited)
Lane Chandler ....* Card player on train (uncredited)
Juanita Colteaux ....* (uncredited)
Mary Jane Croft ....* Dance-hall girl (uncredited)
Wade Crosby ....* Corrigan (oiler) (uncredited)
William B. Davidson ....* Master of Ceremonies (uncredited)
Babe DeFreest ....* (uncredited)
Myrna Dell ....* Blonde (uncredited)
John Dilson ....* Witherspoon's Clerk (uncredited)
Curley Dresden ....* Second randy train passenger (uncredited)
Kenne Duncan ....* Indignant businessman on train (uncredited)
Pearl Early ....* Mrs. Simpson (uncredited)
Rhonda Fleming ....* Dance-hall girl (uncredited)
Edward Gargan ....* Kelsey (waiter) (uncredited)
Bud Geary ....* Miller (card player on train) (uncredited)
Gus Glassmire ....* Secretary of the Interior (uncredited)
Fred Graham ....* Gardner's man (uncredited)
Bonnie Jean Hartley ....* Saloon girl (uncredited)
Al Hill ....* Waiter (uncredited)
Pat Hogan ....* (uncredited)
Charles Jordan ....* Crawford (oiler) (uncredited)
Jack Kenny ....* Dan's man (oiler) (uncredited)
Jack Kirk ....* First randy train passenger (uncredited)
Mike Lally ....* Gardner's oil man (uncredited)
Arthur Loft ....* Fenton (uncredited)
Tom London ....* Tom (farmer on train) (uncredited)
LeRoy Mason ....* Promoter (uncredited)
Frank McCarroll ....* Train passenger (uncredited)
June Pickerell ....* Farmer's wife (uncredited)
Rebel Randall ....* Woman on train (uncredited)
Jack Raymond ....* Oil worker (uncredited)
Bob Reeves ....* (uncredited)
Dick Rich ....* Card player on train (uncredited)
Shirley Jean Rickert ....* (uncredited)
Linda Scott ....* (uncredited)
Harry Shannon ....* Charlie Witherspoon (uncredited)
Charles Sherlock ....* Scared wagon driver (uncredited)
Tom Steele ....* Man on train (uncredited)
Larry Stewart ....* Vendor on train (uncredited)
Oril Taller ....* (uncredited)
Emmett Vogan ....* President Roosevelt's aide (uncredited)
Robert Warwick ....* Chief Big Tree (uncredited)
Slim Whitaker ....* Man on train (uncredited)
Harry Woods ....* Al Dalton (uncredited)
Will Wright ....* Doctor (uncredited)
Produced by
Robert North ....* associate producer
Stunts
Yakima Canutt ....* stunts (uncredited)
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Actually, Yakaima Canutt was the Stunt Co-ordinator (and also stunted) Other stunt people in this one included Cliff Lyons, Post Park (stages and wagons driver),Joe Yrigoyen, Bill Yrigoyen, Bud Geary, Fred Graham, Eddie Parker, Ben Johnson, Tom Steele, Ted Mapes...and Nellie Walker and Babe De Freest.
Les
RoughRider November 7th, 2006, 08:44 AM I see the UK DVD of In Old Oklahoma has some scenes not in the American VHS issued by Republic. For example, early in the film Martha Scott says to Wayne, "Only hired girls put on their gloves in public." That scene got snipped in the US version, including a short scene even earlier where a bit player says, "I'm gonna get me a gal with yeller [yellow] hair." A short scene with Wayne was also cut.
I'm shocked the Brits would allow such foul language and not tone down things with cuts like the Americans.
Seriously, I was curious why the running times between the two versions vary slightly (20 seconds or so), and now I see why. I wonder if the pending RC1 release of the film will include the same cuts....
RoughRider
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DakotaSurfer January 14th, 2007, 01:12 AM I've bought some of the movies from the bygonevideos website. He's pretty willing to put it on any format you want. He's taking them from 16mm film and burning them using the same kind of burner I use.
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I just put up two attachments that have all the movies this bygonevideo has available. Most of them have come in pretty good condition. I'm satisified and I'm actually quite picky about my collection. These are the movies I've acquired:
Brown of Harvard 1926
The Drop Kick 1927
The Big Trail 1930
Two-Fisted Law 1932
Texas Cyclone 1932
Shadow of the Eagle 1932
Ride Him Cowboy 1932
The Hurricane Express 1932
Haunted Gold 1932
The Big Stampede 1932
The Three Musketeers 1933
The Telegraph Trail 1933
Somewhere In Senora 1933
Sagebrush Trail 1933
Riders of Destiny 1933
The Man from Monterey 1933
His Private Secretary 1933
West of the Divide 1934
The Trail Beyond 1934
The Star Packer 1934
Randy Rides Alone 1934
The Man from Utah 1934
The Lucky Texan 1934
The Lawless Frontier 1934
Blue Steel 1934
'Neath the Arizona Skies 1934
Westward Ho! 1935
Texas Terror 1935
Rainbow Valley 1935
Paradise Canyon 1935
Lawless Range 1935
The Desert Trail 1935
The Dawn Rider 1935
Winds of the Wasteland 1936
The Sea Spoilers 1936
King of the Pecos 1936
Conflict 1936
Idol of the Crowds 1937
Born to the West (Hell Town) 1937
Santa Fe Stampede 1938
Red River Range 1938
Pals of the Saddle 1938
Overland Stage Raiders 1938
Stagecoach 1939
The Night Riders 1939
Allegheny Uprising 1939
Three Faces West 1940
Seven Sinners 1940
The Long Voyage Home 1940
The Dark Command 1940
A Man Betrayed/Wheel of Fortune 1941
The Shepherd Of The Hills 1941
Lady from Louisana 1941
Lady For A Night 1941
The Spoilers 1942
Reunion in France 1942
Reap the Wild Wind* 1942
Pittsburgh 1942
In Old California 1942
The Flying Tigers 1942
A Lady Takes a Chance 1943
In Old Oklahoma (War of the Wildcats) 1943
Tall in the Saddle 1944
The Fighting Seabees* 1944
They Were Expendable 1945
Flame of the Barbary Coast 1945
Dakota 1945
Back to Bataan 1945
Without Reservation 1946
Desert Command 1946
Tycoon 1947
Angel and the Badman 1947
Wake of the Red Witch* 1947
Red River 1948
Fort Apache 1948
3 Godfathers 1948
She Wore a Yellow Ribbon 1949
Sands of Iwo Jima* 1949
The Fighting Kentuckian 1949
Rio Grande 1950
Operation Pacific 1951
Flying Leathernecks 1951
The Quiet Man 1952
Big Jim McLain 1952
Trouble Along the Way 1953
Island in the Sky 1953
Hondo 1953
The High and the Mighty 1954
The Sea Chase 1955
Blood Alley 1955
The Searchers 1956
The Conqueror 1956
The Wings of Eagles 1957
Legend of the Lost 1957
Jet Pilot 1957
The Barbarian and the Geisha 1958
Rio Bravo 1959
The Horse Soldiers 1959
North to Alaska 1960
The Alamo* 1960
The Comancheros 1961
The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance 1962
The Longest Day 1962
How the West Was Won 1962
Hatari! 1962
McLintock 1963
Donovan's Reef 1963
Circus World 1964
The Sons of Katie Elder 1965
In Harm's Way 1965
The Greatest Story Ever Told 1965
Cast a Giant Shadow 1966
The War Wagon 1967
El Dorado 1967
Hellfighters 1968
The Green Berets 1968
The Undefeated 1969
True Grit 1969
Rio Lobo 1970
Chisum 1970
Big Jake 1971
The Cowboys* 1972
The Train Robbers 1973
Cahill, U.S. Marshall 1973
McQ 1974
Rooster Cogburn 1975
Brannigan 1975
The Shootist* 1976
etsija March 6th, 2007, 01:20 PM The first part is highly enjoyable, Hunk trying to besiege Cat, and Dan constantly coming between them. Dekker is very good in these not-so-bad bad guy roles. The run for the oil delivery post is too much, how many wagons and barrels they loose and still fulfill their agreement?
General Sterling Price March 6th, 2007, 06:12 PM The first part is highly enjoyable, Hunk trying to besiege Cat, and Dan constantly coming between them. Dekker is very good in these not-so-bad bad guy roles. The run for the oil delivery post is too much, how many wagons and barrels they loose and still fulfill their agreement?
Yeah, we noticed that too. It seemed like they lost more oil than they started out with, and yet arrived with plenty to spare!
Have to love Gabby in these films though....other than him, War of Wildcats is basically the same as In Old California, except its oil, instead of gold.
GSP
General Sterling Price March 6th, 2007, 06:14 PM Another thought I had about this film, was that they portrayed a sitting president (T.R.) as a character in the film.
Question: Are there any other Wayne films that has as one of its characters the president of the U.S.? I cannot think of any others.
arthurarnell April 1st, 2007, 12:27 PM Hi
In the Night Riders the Mesquiteer appeal to president Garfield for help in unmasking a crook but he is assasinated before he can help them
Regards
Arthur
arthurarnell April 1st, 2007, 12:31 PM Hi
One of my favourite early John Wayne films, and one of the first I saw as a kid. Especially as it came out the year I was born. In this case I think this poster is slightly more attractive
Regards
Arthur
Lt. Brannigan April 17th, 2007, 06:51 PM This is my most wanted film on DVD. Of course I would love it if Lionsgate/Paramount would get off their rumps and actually release new John Wayne titles. Gabby is my all time favorite sidekick, way better than froggy if you ask me.
Tbone April 24th, 2007, 04:16 PM This has always been one of my favorites because it references my home town. I don't think there was ever another movie that was staged, or even mentiones it.
Have to say the scenery was all wrong though, that and it wouldn't take about about an hour to haul a wagon from there to the refineries in Tulsa. Have to chuckle about that. :smile:
Even so, it's a fun film!
Lt. Brannigan April 24th, 2007, 04:49 PM Eh... those type of mistakes have never bothered like that on line from Batman Forever.....
Bruce Wayne: I want to live my life for me, I am tired of helping strangers I've never met
that line probably makes sense but I always get nasty towards the screen when that happens..
DukePilgrim May 24th, 2007, 02:02 PM Watched for the first time. Pleasantly surprised good movie
Mike
mhitt May 24th, 2007, 03:55 PM This film (titled as "War of the Wildcats") is showing several times until the end of the month on Encore Westerns...I TIVO'd it and made a disc and watched it the other night. Pretty clear copy.
chester7777 June 23rd, 2007, 11:50 AM Interesting movie, this one, with it's reissue title.
Here are two posters. The second one is a 1959 reissue poster, with the reissue title.
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1961
Interestingly enough, the second one is entirely different, and the original is the same as the one in Keith's introductory post, with the exception of the title (well, the coloring is different,too). I like the original one much better.
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