View Full Version : Why Arent There More Like Duke?


bopoppa
June 16th, 2006, 10:21 PM
I just had a long day of meetings, and after dealing with all ranks, I just get tired of all the political maneuvering and self-absorbed people who seem to have infiltrated the workforce. (I'm in the Coast Guard). It seems looking after your guys is a thing of the past and looking at who you need to ride herd on is the way to succeed. Of course, if that fails, you can always plant your lips on the supervisors big hiney. It seems that men who speak their mind and have that medical affliction known as "speaking the truth" are not appreciated and mistrusted. What have we done to the men of our nation. Duke is as popular as ever, but I'm ridiculed constantly about liking him and taking him serious as a person as well as an actor. Of course, only the stupid ones say it too loudly. Talk to me out there?

arthurarnell
June 17th, 2006, 02:03 AM
Hi Bopoppa

One of your country's great freedoms is to say and believe what you think nomatter what. If your subject to ridicule because of your belief's then that makes you even stronger and the doubters even more weak and suceptable.

I think Duke would have said it's your choice say what you want, to do what you want, to feel what you want, to come home drunk or sober it's your choice and to hell with what the others think.
Our countries fought two world wars to cherish those freedoms, they may not seem so important today but it will come around again it always does.

Regards.

Arthur

Emmanuel
June 17th, 2006, 05:06 AM
Hi all,

bopoppa, I have to agree with you when you
say we need more men with the same attributes
as Duke had. We all like to think that we stand
for the same things as he stood for. Freedom, to
come and go as we please, to say as we like.

A great Irishman was buried yesterday, Charles Haughey,
former Taoiseach (Prime Minister) of the Republic. A
man who many say started the peace process which
lead to the end of the IRA's war with the British. He
was a man who stood by his principles, and just like
Duke, he never backtracked on those principles. Seen
by some as a Dinosaur, out of touch with modern times,
old Charlie must be up there with Duke, enjoying a
good chat about better days, Let's hope there are more
like them out there.

Emmanuel.

bopoppa
June 17th, 2006, 10:41 AM
Originally posted by arthurarnell@Jun 16 2006, 11:03 PM
Hi Bopoppa

One of your country's great freedoms is to say and believe what you think nomatter what. If your subject to ridicule because of your belief's* then that makes you even stronger and the doubters even more weak and suceptable.

I think Duke would have said it's your choice say what you want, to do what you want, to feel what you want, to come home drunk or sober it's your choice and to hell with what the others think.
Our countries fought two world wars to cherish those freedoms, they may not seem so important today but it will come around again it always does.

Regards.

Arthur
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Hello Arthur,
I agree that it comes in doses, but the drought seems to be a bit longer this time. Thanks for the thoughts.

bopoppa
June 17th, 2006, 10:51 AM
[quote]
Hi all,

bopoppa, I have to agree with you when you
say we need more men with the same attributes
as Duke had. We all like to think that we stand
for the same things as he stood for. Freedom, to
come and go as we please, to say as we like.

A great Irishman was buried yesterday, Charles Haughey,
former Taoiseach (Prime Minister) of the Republic. A
man who many say started the peace process which
lead to the end of the IRA's war with the British. He
was a man who stood by his principles, and just like
Duke, he never backtracked on those principles. Seen
by some as a Dinosaur, out of touch with modern times,
old Charlie must be up there with Duke, enjoying a
good chat about better days, Let's hope there are more
like them out there.

Emmanuel.
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Hello Emmanual,
I have never heard of Charles Haughey, but I will make it a point to learn more about him. The reason we have so many problems in this world is that a majority of men are brought up to believe everything is in the grey, no black and white. Black and white is how you build your foundation. You learn all too soon about the grey later in life, but at least when you have the upbringing that introduced you to right and wrong/black and white you can make better decisions when muddling in the grey. When you have no foundation, you cant stand for by or for anything. I've never been called a dinasour, but a popular name for me is "throwback", a term used in the military meaning old school. A quick note on Charlie and Duke's chat. I once asked my mom that if I died, I wanted to be able to sit down with my dad and Duke and enjoy a conversation. Her reply: They would tell you to go sit your "punk" a@# down at another table. How sobering from my own mother. Hope to talk to all of you soon.

The Ringo Kid
June 17th, 2006, 03:39 PM
Bopoppa, I agree with all that is said here and I might add (and strictly MY own opinion) that:

If one is in the military, that there are NO George S. Patton Jr's, NO Admiral Bull Halsey's, NO Colonal Gregory "Pappy" Boyington's, NO Jimmy Doolittle's anymore; mostly because these great Gentlemen were NOT politically correct types. I HOPE I am wrong in this opinion but, I think that if there are folks serving in the military who think the way these gents did and also think the way the Duke did, that like you; are most likely ostracized--because you can think as an individual as well as be a leader.

In the movie-making world--those who are like Charlton Heston are spat upon because he IMO, is a great American who is not afraid to stand up for what he believes is right. No--those leftist lunatic websites (one I recently found and briefly looked at and was very disgusted with) will NEVER give someone a chance if they are at all like John Wayne or Charlton Heston--both of whom were and will always be; household names in my house. Also, since it seems to be "politically correct" to not be a thinker in hollywoodland town, that in order to be assurred to be chosen for good money-making acting roles; it seems that if the majority of these "performers" that they have to "play the game" in order to get their over-sized salaries. I think there are many in "that croud" how are just afraid to speak their minds and be more like Charlton Heston and the Duke, simply because they are afraid of not getting the "juicy roles" and making their millions per film.

I see the same thing goes on with almost all major news agancies. Fox is an exception--mostly.

I suspect the same thing is going on in other business worlds as well.

I don't have the proper time to word this better and elaborate more but, I think you get the jist of what im trying to say. :) Anyway, I feel as you do from what you said above.

Best regards--Carl.

PS, the Coast Guard does one hell of a great job. My hat's off to you guys. :)

Colorado Bob
June 30th, 2006, 09:29 PM
Howdy All,
I've just read Bopoppa's post, and I hate to have to tell this kid, but much of our society is this way these days. And yes, it is very sad. But there are still a few of us that make it point to open a door, or light a cigarette, or allow a lady to go first. It's not just chivalry. In my book it's called good manners. You don't swear in front of women or children. You never strike a woman or a child (unless it's on their backside and they need it!). You don't insult or offend anyone on purpose, and you never back down from telling the truth, no matter who doesn't want to hear it.

I don't believe in backing down from anyone who violates these simple, and in my opinion, honest life rules, and I have been in more than one "disagreement" with someone who doesn't think these rules should apply. I guess that's why after 20 years in corrections I'm still a sergeant and not a captain. I refuse, absolutely refuse to kiss anyone's backside, and I believe "political correctness" is nothing but sheep dip.

I know I'm far from perfect. I smoke and will hoist the occasional Guinness. I have been know to swear on occassion. But I do strive to be honest and true to my beliefs. I love my wife. I love my children, and I love my country. And those who do know me, tend to know better than to insult anyone of them. If they don't, they soon learn.

So don't give up Bo. The men you think are in hiding, or just plain gone, aren't. We may be anachonistic dinosaurs, but we're here. And for those out there in our society who think a man should be "sensitive" and "tolerant" to those who refuse to stand up for what is right, and be "accepting" to what we know is wrong, all I can say is.........

...... Ladies please plug your ears and close your eyes......


Grow up and grow a pair!

I apologize for my language.

Off my soap box for now,

Best to all,
Colorado Bob

bopoppa
July 1st, 2006, 01:29 AM
Hey Colorado Bob, I appreciate your thoughts, as well as everyone who has posted on the subject. I can report a small change of events as of today however. A vote of confidence out of the blue. An officer who started up the program I am now involved in who is pretty high in the chain of command came up to my team and told the junior officers he wasnt liking what was going on and instructed them to keep their inexperienced butts on the porch and let me do the job. And do to a few adjustments and attitude adjustments, things are a bit smoother. I will say that my attitude was not tampered with. Damn I love those old Coasties who still carry a big stick. Colorado, I was raised around what I consider "real" men, so it makes it hard to be around men who look for social acceptance by acting "politically correct". Piss on em. I'm not wasting any other words.
Ringo Kid, Thank you for the compliment on the Coast Guard. I'm finding out more and more that a lot of people appreciate us. We've been the red-headed stepchild for quite a while, but people are starting to take notice. There are less than 40,000 of us and our jobs keep getting bigger and leading us into areas we are not generally knowledgable at, but we get through it. Appreciate all of your support.
Bo :stunned:

Jay J. Foraker
July 3rd, 2006, 12:54 PM
Hi bopoppa -
Keep up the good work. I'm not all that familiar with what the U.S. Coast Guard does, but have seen several documentaries on the activities and have realized how varied and important are the tasks carried out by you folks. There are a lot of people out there that appreciate what you do. :wub:
Cheers - Jay :D

Senta
July 3rd, 2006, 03:01 PM
Hi,
I read only in Tom Clancy novel about Coast Guard and seems that they are very good sailors and do mighty importaint work. So we must be proud to have you bopoppa here.
Regards,
Senta

bopoppa
July 3rd, 2006, 04:00 PM
Originally posted by Senta@Jul 3 2006, 12:01 PM
Hi,
I read only in Tom Clancy novel about Coast Guard and seems that they are very good sailors and do mighty importaint work. So we must be proud to have you bopoppa here.
Regards,
Senta
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Thanks for all the positive feedback gentlemen. :) It goes without saying that our mission keeps growing, but I can't complain that it ever gets boring. Thanks again.
Bo