Having recently had some John Wayne related topics removed from the general discussions area I am a little confused as to where to post particular comments.

The general discussions area is virtually dormant as of late and as other members have rightly highlighted 'Dukes Movie forum' usually doesn't yield very many answers if any at all to a particular question.

Maybe somebody could explain what should be posted where and is the 'general discussions' area out of bounds for new topics.

Robbie
:agent:

Hi Robbie,

Generally, all movie related topics,
are better placed in the Movie Forum,
as in the case of your two topics
' Missing Footage'
and 'Deleted Scenes'
I PM'd you, regarding these.
The two, were slowly getting shunted
down and out of sight in 'General Discussions'
but are now prominent, in Movie Discussions.
Most questions relating to the specific movies,
seemed to be answered adequately,
and I don't know of any members,
'highlighting' a problem here.

P.S. I have yet to find time,
to answer your question regarding The Alamo

I personally have spent hours and months,
attempting to 'tidy up' this board,
and as a result I now think we have the most
expansive and informative site,
relating to John Wayne

Here is at lest one person highlighting the problem and I'm inclined to agree with him.

http://www.dukewayne.com/showthread.php?t=2735&st=15

I'm not taking anything away from your hard work its just that general discussions is now dormant and topics in the Duke movie reviews are rarely looked at and as a result I feel the boad in general has got very quiet.

Robbie
:agent:

One person, !!!

Generally Robbie,
If you take a look through
the recent active topics,
you will find many are related to Movie Reviews.
Very few, new topics have been posted, prompting discussion!

Incidently your topic
'Missing Footage' was in
General Discussions since April,
without any interest, until moved.

There has been a tendency, for some time now
for most posts,to be made in these topics,

Three Word Story
How's The Weather
What was the Last Western you watched
What was the Last Non Western Watched,
all the Congratulation threads,

Many members are now confining their posts to the above,
and as a result, all other topics, wherever they are placed,
are becoming dormant!

Yes I agree, folks just aren't posting.

For myself, I've been too busy of late but that doesn't mean a lack of interest only of time.

I'd like for us to be able to have some more discussions that would shed more light on the Duke and how he lived his life...the person he was, the lessons we can learn from how he approached living life.

Maybe someone who has read a recent biography on the Duke could give us a summary.

I appreciate ChiliBill's stories from real life with the Duke.

Just some rambling thoughts to add...

Originally posted by Harold@Sep 23 2006, 02:43 PM

William T Brooks,Sep 23 2006, 08:14 AM

Harold; Keith is right go over to the "Red River" Movie Site for just about everything you want to know about the Film "Red River." :D

That would be OK, but nobody ever looks there!!!!!!

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John Wayne came to us all through his movies,
without them, this board would not exist,
surely, Duke fans would


'look there'

Once again Keith I am not criticising you.

However the fact remains that posts on this messageboard has greatly reduced since the general discussions areas has been rendered defunct. When questions are asked relating to a particular movie within that films thread etc they are rarely if ever answered.

The two topics of mine that were moved would have received little interest anyway even if they were wrote across every users monitor.

Robbie
:agent:

Originally posted by ethanedwards@Nov 14 2006, 04:13 PM
There has been a tendency, for some time now
for most posts,to be made in these topics,

Three Word Story
How's The Weather
What was the Last Western you watched
What was the Last Non Western Watched,
all the Congratulation threads,

Many members are now confining their posts to the above,*
and as a result, all other topics, wherever they are placed,
are becoming dormant!

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Hi Robbie,
I agree,
but I think the reason is because the easy option,
is as above

I ceased posting Movie of The Week,
because of what I concieved as little or no interest,
only to be asked, to re-instate it.

I agree with Tbone,
it's a pity, we can't get more discussion
on what after all, should be the core of this board,
John Wayne, the man, his life and his movies

I started this thread on your very subject, but as you see,
it soon 'wore out'

John Wayne- The Man (http://www.dukewayne.com/showthread.php?t=2518&hl=)

Hi Keith

I understand what your saying. However general discussions used to receive over 90% of the posts, if traffic is diverted from there then posts are ultimately going to go down.

In addition to this if 'X' wants to know what type of gun Duke had in the Sons of Katie Elder and posts in the relevant forum, is it likely someone who knows the answer will trawl through all the posts in that forum and then post the answer at the end.

As well as this I feel the 'John Wayne picture game' is a little out of the way and should be brought to a more centralised position and kept a little closer to the 'guess the movie game'.

Robbie
:agent:

Hi Robbie,

Good point.

Generally only questions, directly relating to
the movie are in Movie Reviews.
Guns, Horses,and other general stuff
as far as I know have remained in General Discussions

Hi Keith

I think that is where the ambiguity lies as to what is acceptable within general discussions and what is not.

I understand the need for a more centrelised approach but it is causing a little confusion and ultimately a reduced number of posts.

Robbie
:agent:

Hi Keith and Robbie,
It's a pity that you couldn't argee in this question. I myself apiciate greatly Movie descussions, because every time I watch new movie to me I\m going to previos descussion on it and information, and not only new movies, and this part of the board seems to be becoming more and more active.

As for General Descussions nobody reduce their importance. Only when the topics about movies was there it was really diffiacalt or simply impossible to find them.

Of course I wanted our Board be very active most of the time, but I think it is understandable when the board sometimes slow down and sometimes raise activity.

From myself I can't do much about it, because I'm Duke fun only for the year and my English is not good enough to write full size reviews. But I enjoy greatly reading other members posts.

Anyway I think that our Board is the best place on the net.

Regards,
Senta :rolleyes:

The only problem I have had with this reorganizing has been the "Duke Movie Reviews" Forum. First of all I think it's name is misleading. Maybe it should be called General Movie Discussions or something. I have also discovered that it is about the only forum that is hidden from users not logged in. Sometimes when I am at work I just enter the site to see if there is any activity. Since my computer is in an open area I don't want to stay logged in to the message board. I just look to see if there is anything of interest in the recent topics. I realized some time ago that I had missed a few posts because of this. A couple of threads were moved to the DMR forum and they do not pop up in the recent topics list if you are not logged on. I really don't see any reason for this forum to have more restrictions than other forums.

As for the number of posts going down I think this actually has a lot to do with the people who are active. Chester, Smokey and Hondo Duke Lane have not been as active lately as they used to. Looking at the top posters list there are quite a few people who have either cut down or left the message board. For the most part (from what I could tell from the posts) these posters have other reasons for not posting.

I agree with Senta about it being a lot easier to navigate if you are looking for specific information about films. There also used to be way more topics popping up over and over again.

Regards
Popol Vuh

Originally posted by Popol Vuh@Nov 14 2006, 03:32 PM
I have also discovered that it is about the only forum that is hidden from users not logged in. Sometimes when I am at work I just enter the site to see if there is any activity. Since my computer is in an open area I don't want to stay logged in to the message board. I just look to see if there is anything of interest in the recent topics. I realized some time ago that I had missed a few posts because of this.
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PV,

That's an interesting little thing you noticed. I signed out, so I could see what a guest sees, and you are indeed right about that one forum not being visible to a guest. That's weird! I'm guessing Kevin might not be aware of that little glitch, as I am sure that is what it is. I can't imagine any reasons for there to be restrictions on that particular forum.

Chester :newyear:

Hi Popol

You are correct that is another little problem with the Duke movie reviews section.

Is the general discussions area one of the busiest on the board now a thing of the past and if someone has a question about the Duke s/he wishes to ask where can it be posted as I can't imagine someone trawling through several pages of a discussion related to a particular movie only to answer a question about that movie.

Robbie
:agent:

Hi,

What is amiss is that

Duke Movie Discussions (http://www.dukewayne.com/index.php?showforum=44)

where these type of question can be asked,
does not show on the main board Index!!!
only by clicking on the
blue Duke's Movie Discussions does it appear,
then you have to scroll down to get to it,
this is the missing link,
between the Movie Reviews
and General Discussions, of the Movies.

Kevin,
can you make this appear on the main board?
as in Maureens Forum,
Dukes Movie Discussions,
should appear ,
just above Dukes's Movie Reviews,
on the main board index.

I notice, also I have no Moderation on this Forum,
which also shows, how hidden it is!

Any new topics, and questions, regarding Movies
can be started here.
When the questions have been answered
the threads can then be moved into the dedicated Movie thread.
I think this is the only way, we can keep new questions
to the top, and at the same time, maintain, the continuity.

Hi Keith.

Actually yes and no. I hadn't noticed what you pointed out about "Duke Movie Discussions", but from what I can see "Duke Movie Reviews" can not be accessed without logging in. This is where you moved some threads earlier and they did not appear on the list over Recent Topics on the main page.

Regards
Popol Vuh

Hi Popul,

Actually yes and no!! If you see what I mean,
I know what you mean about logging in,
it doesn't show Duke's Movie Reviews,
until after you have logged in!
I'd noticed that before, but just thought that's the
way Kevin had planned it!!
Duke's Movie Discussions, however,
is almost completely hidden!
I know what's wrong, but I can't do anything about it.
I have no control as to how the Forums are set up.
only the topics that are entered into them.

Romantic Films etc is OK

The Westerns, Forum is wrong, and has become hidden,
it should be like above,
and the Forums section should be in the Duke's Movie Discussions.

Likewise with the War Movies.

As you can appreciate, this is terribly difficult to explain,
I know how to do it, but I don't have the control.

Thanks for all you input,

Robbie, Popul, everyone


I have sent a PM to Kevin,

Originally posted by chester7777@Nov 15 2006, 10:05 AM
PV,

That's an interesting little thing you noticed.* I signed out, so I could see what a guest sees, and you are indeed right about that one forum not being visible to a guest.* That's weird!* I'm guessing Kevin might not be aware of that little glitch, as I am sure that is what it is.* I can't imagine any reasons for there to be restrictions on that particular forum.

Chester :newyear:

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Indeed this was not set right. that area should be visible to guests, but guest can only read not post.

Thanks for catching that!!