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Robbie
July 8th, 2003, 02:56 PM
This is a difficult question and will get most of you John fans thinking.

John Wayne is famous for killing people in his movies but in what film did he kill the most amount of people in and how many did he kill. Obvioulsly when he ignites gunpowder ie in the Alamo it is impossible to know how many people he would have killed but this question refers to clear kills. No film that he made is out of bounds for the answer, that should get you all thinking :D Good luck

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General Sterling Price
July 8th, 2003, 05:00 PM
Hi Robbie,

Do you only include where the Duke actually has his hands on the trigger? what about Operation Pacific, where orders his submarine to ram the decoy Jap fishing boat and it goes down with hundreds on board?

If the later kind of kills count, the Operation Pacific is my film. Wayne is portrayed taking out a fleet of Jap carriers, destroyers, and other vessels.

GSP

BrianB
July 8th, 2003, 05:41 PM
Without trying to read into this to much, we might want two answers here. One on the movie that John Wayne shoots the most, the second while under John Waynes command. If this is the case I think that "In Harms Way" might out do "Operation Pacific". I'll have to give some real thought on what movie the Duke shoots the most.

Brian
Tulalip Wa

Robbie
July 9th, 2003, 06:28 PM
Yo

Just to clear this question up a little, the answer Im looking for is direct kills ie from his gun or knife etc not from his orders. I know this is a very tricky question and should get you all thinking.

Cheers
Cyas


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Chris Maude
July 9th, 2003, 07:49 PM
Well Guys i recon every time he pulls the trigger,except when he is giving lessons on how to shoot a 45 he hits his target every time ooops sorry i stand corrected already in brannigan when he fires two or three shots in to the e type jag before he hits his target but to give an order opperation pacific and in harms way would come close to each other.

BrianB
July 10th, 2003, 01:40 AM
My best guess at this time would be in "Hondo"

Brian
Tulalip Wa

Robbie
July 13th, 2003, 04:07 PM
Thanks for that Brian, do you know exactly how many bit the the dust in that movie because of the Duke.

Im surprised Roland hasnt got some information in his large John Wayne portfollio regarding this question as he seems very quiet on the subject so far. hope I havent daunted him with this one(Only jokeing Roland)

Anyone else on the Messageboard think they know the answer to the question feel free to have a stab as its got very little feedback so far.



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itdo
July 15th, 2003, 10:48 AM
Hi Robbie
just stumbled over this one by accident and see you're referring to me - so why don't I answer this one. To be frank, I'm not reading all posts any more - there's just too many of them lately - which is a good sign, of course, means a growin interest in this board. Naturally, I wished the new members would take the time to read some of the old posts - there already is a lot of knowledge been put there. My computer isn't that fast and to open just all new posts would take me lots of time. But back to your post: the one in which JW drops the most bad guys? My guess is that would have to be one of his B-movies. First, because he had more than 6 shots in his six-shooter. Second, because they just dropped dead in a make-believe-way, no blood at all, so it was ok to shoot'em up by the dozen, no logistics getting in the way. Probably this would have to be one of the Republic Westerns, starting from '35, when they put more production value in them, more money for stunts and stuff, so there would be longer shoot-outs. Maybe you wanna count the baddies in King of the Pecos - especially in scenes when they are cornered in an old barn and come running out one at a time - so the good guys can get good aim, and: Bang! You ever noticed: There's never any wounded: every shot must have hit the heart (no shooting in the head allowed, of course, cowboy-code). Just my guessin.

Chris Maude
July 17th, 2003, 04:07 PM
adding to what's allready been said it allways imppresses me when the duke picks up his winchester one eye closed the other wide open looking straight down the barrel to it's target, the only time when he didn't shoot was in big jake that comes to my mind (like i say iv'e seen 105 of his movie's) and his line NOPE I AINT BUTTED INTO ANY ONE'S BUISNESS SINCE I WAS 18 YEAR OLD ...AW WHAT HE GO AND DO THAT FOR and the rest is big jake,and he could handle a six gun too but it was always good to see him with his famous winchester.

Robbie
July 24th, 2003, 07:33 PM
Im bringing this one to the top again to refresh some memories and to get some more feedback as it has got little so far. Maybe some of the new members to this board know the answer.

cheers

B)

itdo
July 25th, 2003, 02:58 PM
OK Robbie here we go:
somebody once took out time to actually count the braves JW drops in all the injun-related westerns - that was at a time when the image of JW AGAIN was considered controversial with the Indian Nation. The numbers appearing next to the film titles are considered SHOT DEAD - even though we grown ups know of course - when they fall off their horses, they might just be WOUNDED - but then John Ford always cut away so you never knew for sure if the Duke just nicked the fat of some of 'em.

THE BIG TRAIL: 1 (although I thought he got 2 in this flic)
THE TELEGRAPH TRAIL: 1
STAGECOACH: 5
ALLEGHENY UPRISING: 2
IN OLD OKLAHOMA: 0
FORT APACHE: 0
SHE WORE A YELLOW RIBBON: 0
RIO GRANDE: 0 (now look at this bodycount in the whole cavalry trilogy!)
HONDO: 8
THE SEARCHERS: 4
RED RIVER: 3
MCLINTOCK: 0
THE COMANCHEROS: 13
THE WAR WAGON: 0

Monique
July 26th, 2003, 05:25 PM
Hello :huh:

So bringing this subject back to the top of the posts :rolleyes:

Itdo you have "The Comancheros" at 13 :rolleyes:

and "Hondo" at 8 :rolleyes:

I have never counted how many John Wayne has dropped but I'll go ahead and watch these two today and count away :huh:

Monique ;)


PS it would be easier to count the ones being dropped in a Clint Eastwood western since thats basicly his western image. :unsure:

Monique
July 26th, 2003, 08:59 PM
Hello :rolleyes:
Ok I just watched "Hondo" and it has been about a year since I watched "Hondo" :(

First Hondo drops 8 NDN's and Mr. Lowe that makes 9 for this Movie :rolleyes:

Every time the Duke took his pistol out he spun it. (other posts) :rolleyes:

I have to relook my postings as far as I rate "Hondo"
it is much more of a movie than I rated :angry:

so my top 100 and top ten are out :angry:

To Rate "Hondo vs "Shane" (another post) "Hondo wins over 10 times :rolleyes:

To see the Duke in his Buckskins and ruling the screen he is so sexy. My boy freind left halfway threw the movie when I told him I have to watch the "Comanchero's" next. :angry:

I thought men loved the Duke :unsure: I guess I'll miss hip hop tonight and watch another Duke movie :rolleyes:

The count is 13 lets see what I can find :unsure:

Monique ;)

Monique
July 26th, 2003, 11:08 PM
Hello again :rolleyes:

I just finished watching "The Comancheros" the count I got was 30 plus Lee Marvin :rolleyes:

So that makes 31 the count for the Comancheros :rolleyes:

A tad more than thirteen :huh:

Monique ;)

itdo
July 27th, 2003, 10:16 AM
Well, yes, because the count was how many INJUNS he shot. And as I said, I didn't take time out myself to actually count how many bit-players bit the dust - I just transported those numbers from another source. Not that the body-count in a JW movie really matters.

Hondo Duke Lane
July 27th, 2003, 06:06 PM
Very interesting,

I was wondering Monique, was that actually Duke or everyone in "The Comancheros?" That's a lot of Indians in a movie. Also, your boyfirend's not a Duke fan? :D

Cheers, Hondo B)

Robbie
July 27th, 2003, 06:13 PM
Hondo

Moniques not far from wrong I remember a friend of mine pointing out the large number of people Duke killed in this movie although they were not all indians but I personally dont know the exact number. Its actually surprising the huge number of movies Duke has made where he hasnt killed anyone at all.

B)

Monique
July 27th, 2003, 10:14 PM
Hondo :rolleyes:

Yes thats 31 in the Comancheros and not just NDN's :unsure:

I just finished "The Undefeated" and the count is 9 dropped <_<

Clint Eastwood movies you count, with the Duke you don't :o

But this posting is asking so I watching and counting :unsure:

And yes my boyfriend hates the Duke, my PC, and anytime I watch his movies or come close to this website :angry:

He will learn or go the way of the Doe Doe Bird :rolleyes:

Monique ;)

chester7777
July 27th, 2003, 10:46 PM
Monique,

Have you tried showing him the best John Wayne movies? Of course, as we've learned here, what's "best" to one is not to someone else. What kind of movies does this potential dodo bird like? (Yes, folks, I checked the dictionary, and 'dodo' is the correct spelling.) Are there any JW movies similar to his tastes?

I have to wonder, how could anyone NOT like John Wayne? What is he, a Communist?? :o Just kidding!! :)

Does HE know anything about computers? Maybe he's intimidated by your knowledge. If he does have other redeeming qualities, perhaps you could help him learn (to like the Duke, and about computers). If he's not interested, it's the dodo pile for him.

Don't settle for anything less than the best!

Mrs. Chester

chester7777
August 22nd, 2009, 01:53 AM
This is a difficult question and will get most of you John fans thinking.

John Wayne is famous for killing people in his movies but in what film did he kill the most amount of people, and how many did he kill. Obviously when he ignites gunpowder ie in the Alamo it is impossible to know how many people he would have killed but this question refers to clear kills. No film that he made is out of bounds for the answer, that should get you all thinking :D Good luck

B)

Another thread that has been in the deep, dusty dark for a very long time.


Not that the body-count in a JW movie really matters.
Of course, the body count doesn't really matter, but it might just be an interesting bit of trivia. As with some of the other "resurrected" threads, you might want to read from the beginning to get the 'flow.'

Colorado Bob
September 2nd, 2009, 10:49 PM
It does make one think, doesn't it. I do have a bad habit of having a note book nearby whenever I watch a Duke film, just to take notes on trivia that I may have missed in the past. So, I guess I really don't have any good excuse for not being able to answer this trivia question! I guess I better start counting!

arthurarnell
September 3rd, 2009, 11:55 AM
Hi

This is a topic I researched some years ago when the Sunday Express brought forth an article saying that a Pima Apache reservation was considering calling a new highway John Wayne Way or some such thing.
It protested that this was a man who had slaughtered indians in their hundreds in his films.
Looking into it I wrote an article for the Big Trail and sat and counted every indian killed in every John Wayne film.
The results were amazing and have been already shown in this thread.
For instance in She Wore A Yellow Ribbon he stops an Indian uprising without ever once drawing his pistol.
If you took a pro rata list of non Indians killed I would suspect that the result would be heavily in favour of the Cowboys Mexicans, Germans, Arabs and Japanese that he killed - for instance The Shootist 3 in one scene in the saloon. Fighting Seebees tipping over an oil tank on to the Japanese, a case of mass slaughter if ever there was one. The Three Musketeers when he flies down machine gunning Arabs who are attacking a Foreign Legion patrol. The list goes on but I think in general the Indians got off lightly with the violence increasing as violence in general came into the cinema.

Regards

Arthur

Robbie
September 3rd, 2009, 01:30 PM
Disregarding an opponents ethnicity, I believe John Wayne highest personal body count came in "The Comacheros".

:agent:

William T Brooks
October 18th, 2009, 10:02 AM
Because is is Called
"John Wayne The Sharpshooter"
Duke was Very Good with a Pistol and Rifle For Real !
:wink_smile:
I have One of His Old Movie Badges at the Wild West Museum that Duke and Ward Bond were Shooting at Between Scenes when they were doing a Film to See if They Could Really Hit it at 15 Yards with One of The Movie Guns and Duke Did Hit It !!!
:jump:
Chilibill