As most of you know the IMDB is a widely used and respected web site, which contains a vast amount of information relating to movies. However I have been very concerned as of late with the constant dwindling of support for the highest ranked John Wayne movie on the list, “The Searchers”. This movie used to be in 94th position but in now in 98th position and could soon drop out of the top 100 possibly on a permanent basis. What I’m suggesting is that all Duke fans on this message-board take a few minutes to register with “IMDB.COM” and vote for the John Wayne movie in the list and give them a 10 star rating even if you don’t think they deserve it. I know some may feel this is very petty but its just something I feel needs to be done to preserve the Dukes legacy. Some of you may also feel its a little corrupt but “Star Wars” fans do it so why shouldn’t Duke fans? so get voting.

Thanks
Robbie


B)

I think we should get behind Robbie and support his thoughts on building up the legacy of the Duke. I've mentioned in a previous post how my family and I went to the largest rodeo in this part of California, where there were dozens and dozens of vendor's booths, and not once did we see anything with an image of the Duke on it, or even his name.

IMDb is one way us computer nerds can make an effort to change some of this. If we're researching a movie, it only takes a few moments extra to rate the movie, or possibly type up a review. As many times as I have looked at John Wayne movies at IMDb, I have never rated a movie until tonight. You can also rate movies at Amazon.com (in fact, we just did that, too, for the movie The Green Berets - took less than 5 minutes!). You could consider these two locations like an extension of this message board, in a way.

So whenever you're at IMDb or Amazon, take a couple of extra minutes, and rate some John Wayne movies, and keep his memory alive!

It's for the Duke! :D

Chester

Yes i agree with you guys and done just that.
Chance ;)

Here, here! Consider it done. I have never been to IMDB. So now I guess I will go find out about the site. Might learn something. dukefan1

Robbie you have 110% support behind this from me :rolleyes:

Monique ;)

hi chester,

you might have problems with stalls not having something with the dukes image on it where you are but over here when you go to a craft stall you will find something with the dukes image on it just the other day when i was out picking up my first duke dvd there was a stall that had a key ring rack with his image on it as well as a wall plaque. they go very quickly so missed out they were gone by the time i got back to the stall.

cheers smokey

ps the dvd has blue steel and angle and the bad man on it his lordship watched it and loved it ;) cost was $10 aust. bargin

I didn't expect such a positive responce to this topic which I am pleasantly surprised about. Chester you hit the nail right on the head about the lack of Dukes image currently available, I'm not sure whats the problem as there is clearly a demand for it.

There are several Dueek movies on the IMDB web site that have no user comments for them especially the earlier ones and many more of his movies have only a small number of user comments so anyone on this board with a view on a particular movie(s) of the Duke should write a review of it. Poitive reviews are a good way of promoting the movie.

For anyone who hasnt already rated a Duke moive with 10 stars do it now especially for the Searchers as it needs votes. Remember you can vote as many times as you want for the same movie but a rating of nine or below does tend to have an negative effect on the movies position.

Cheers

hi robbie,

could you please give me the addy so that i can go there as my machine is chucking a hissy fit and won't find it for me.

cheers smokey

Robbie :rolleyes:
I will make it a point to drop by the IMDB as often as I come to this site if needed :rolleyes: I have no problem giving the Duke ten stars B) To bad I cannot give him eleven or twelve :(

Monique ;)

Originally posted by smokey@Aug 11 2003, 09:43 AM
hi robbie,

could you please give me the addy so that i can go there as my machine is chucking a hissy fit and won't find it for me.

cheers* smokey
Hey Smokey,

Heres the url to the IMDB site http://www.imdb.com

and here's the direct link to the Searchers page.

http://us.imdb.com/Title?0049730

Happy Voting. ;)

Kevin,

Thank you for the links, I will vote away.

Brian
Tulalip Wa

Hi, I agree absolute with you. In Germany is the status of "The Searchers"-The best Movie all the Time

And Monique, you use a great Picture :)

John Wayne Tribute from Germany (http://www.berlinernetz.de/wayne/index.php)


Greetings from good old Germany

http://www.berlinernetz.de/wayne/images/highquality/thumbs/Piktogramm/9967-0004_jpg.jpg

Torsten

thanks kevin for the links will go and vote

cheers smokey

ps what would we do without you

Smokey

Sorry I havent replied until no but Kevin has helped me out there so thanks Kevin. So far a lot of people on this messageboard have backed this proposal but the one problem is "The Searchers currently has "2409" ten star votes and it had "2408" yesterday when I voted for it. So I urge everone again to go to this site and VOTE for the movie and then VOTE again for it. If it gets a good surge of 10 star votes and it doesn't rise from 98th I may email IMDB about this. Other Duke movies that need votes are

1. Stagecoach
2. Red River
3. Rio Bravo
4. The Quiet Man

Possibly giving the movie above the Searchers a vote of one could help but that may be a devious scheme, I'll leave it up to you all. So after you read this message go and give the Searchers etc at least 5, 10 star votes and we'll see tomorrow if the number has went up from 2409.


B)

Originally posted by Robbie@Aug 13 2003, 05:34 PM
So I urge everone again to go to this site and VOTE for the movie and then VOTE again for it.* Other Duke movies that need votes are

1. Stagecoach
2. Red River
3. Rio Bravo
4. The Quiet Man


Been there, done that!

I still can't believe that, for all the times I have been to IMDb, I had never rated a movie.

Chester

I see a slight improvement in the searchers votes it has received 5 more ten star votes than it had this time yesterday. However this is still not enough so keep on voting ten stars. Monique youve got an ichy keyboard finger surely you will give the Searchers etc a few ten star rateings...go on girl.

B)

Thanks Chester for voteing and to everyone else who did as well and don't forget to continue, now I'm sure your all sick of me going on about this so I'll not pester you any longer.

B)

I will vote away on all the John Wayne films

Brian
Tulalip Wa

Hi Friends,

"The High and the mighty" needs a vote too.

Please let me know what do you think about that Movie.

Dukes German Home (http://www.berlinernetz.de/wayne/index.php)

http://www.berlinernetz.de/wayne/images/highquality/thumbs/Piktogramm/9967-0015_jpg.jpg

Greetings from good old germany

Torsten

Viery,

I'm not sure if many of us have seen The High & The Mighty in the states. If has not been seen in this country by the majority. Some of us had the fortunate pleasure of seeing the movie, via copy of copies of vidoes. The quality was fair to say the least, but in my case I enjoyed the movie.

Maybe we should vote anything John Wayne, but I would personally have a hard time voitng for The Conqueror, as this is the worst Duke movie I've ever seen. I wouldn't vote for Island in the Sky, I haven't seen it, and wouldn't vote for it under the circumstances.

But you can count on me, I really like the movie (seen last March) and look forward to the official release of this movie on DVD.

Cheers, Hondo B)

Hondo

I understand what your saying about not voting for movies that you havent seen thats fair enough. What I am saying though is vote for the Duke moives that you have seen and liked and give them a 10* rating it only takes about 20 seconds to do. If everyone does this each time their on this messageboard then the position of his movies would improve. At this moment in time I am suggesting that people vote for the Searchers as it is the highest placed John Wayne movie but unfortunetly is in decline. Rememebr you can vote as many times as you want for the same movie and hopefully if everyone on this board makes a concentrated effort on voting 10 stars for the Searchers we can get it above the dire position of 98th :angry:



B)

Robbie (and everybody else),

After looking into the voting procedure at IMDb, and having previously voted for a variety of John Wayne movies, Robbie's idea has several merits.

Even though IMDb's rating of movies may not have any bearing on the industry or life in general, as JW fans, we should do whatever we can to try to bring his movies higher up on the list.

My suggestion - maybe decide on 10 favorite Duke movies and go to IMDb and give them a rating of 10. You must be registered and logged in to be able to vote. According to IMDb, you can't vote more than one time for one movie in a 24 hour period, but you can vote for as many movies as your time permits.

For example, I have decided to focus on the following movies -

The Searchers (98/250)
The Quiet Man (231/250)
Red River (230/250)
Rio Bravo (213/250)
The Shootist
Rooster Cogburn
The Sons of Katie Elder
Stagecoach (204/250)
They Were Exendable
True Grit

The numbers in the list represent the movie's current ranking in the top 250 movies (according to IMDb). No number means it isn't in the top 250.

Once you have voted on any movies, IMDb maintains a list of the movies on which you have voted, which you may access at any time (probably have to wait at least 24 hours for a movie to get on the list after the first vote). After that, whenever you go to IMDb, near the top of the screen are some tabs (purple) and one is marked "My Movies" and if you click on it, on the next screen you come to, scroll down a little and on the left there is a box marked Special Categories, and within that box is a link to Vote History. When you click on that, it brings up a list of any movies on which you have voted. It is relatively easy to go down this list, click on each movie, and vote for it (10 of course :) ), hit the back button a couple of times to get back to your list, and keep going until you have re-voted your whole list. In this manner, it only takes about 5 minutes to vote for 10 movies or so.

If 10 people from this message board were doing this (10 movies/day), within a month I figure all the John Wayne movies would have to move up in the list (hopefully getting into the list, for some, and the top 100 for others). Maybe we could get The Searchers in the top 10. If this is that important to you, I'm sure you'll figure out a way of remembering to do it. Here's how my wife does it to me :headbonk: (not really, but I just love that thing!).

Reading IMDb's Top 250 list will be real enlightening, and might spur you on to vote for the Duke's movies, as there are many that you can hardly believe they are even in the top 1000 movies.

Chester (getting off his soapbox, and thanking Robbie for getting us onto this!) B)

I agree with you Chester. Let's concentrate on The Searchers, get it into the top ten, then work on others, like Rio Bravo, The Quiet Man, Stagecoach, & Red River. We have a lot of work to do to get this to work out. We have to contend with hundreds of people who are voting on current movies, and that could be where the work gets tough.

But if you think about it, if people see these movies, they will vote with us.

Cheers, Hondo B)

I wonder if anybody is actually voteing for "The Searchers" every time I go to vote for it it seems to be simply one vote up on the last time I voted. Now there are two possible explanations,

1. People are not voteing for it.
2. They are voteing but IMDB is not registering their votes.

What is needed is as Chester said, 10 people from this messageboard to go and vote 10 stars for it every day. I can never however see the movie being in the top 10 not unless there is a serious movement from this board and others.

Chester do you or anyone else know how many more votes "The Searchers" needs to move up.

A good idea also is to rate the movie above "The Searchers" with a 1 :D but then thats up to you.

Everybody whom is prepared to as Chester said vote ten stars for "The Searchers" every time their on the messageboard should put their name here so we know how many people we need to carry of this plan.

:agent:

Hey Robbie,

Be patient. I just voted a few minutes ago, and voted yesterday for The Searchers. It seems that there is not many on the board right now, and I must say that people are busy and not using the board right now. I will continue to vote everyday and encourage other to do so as well. We'll get this going when people return from where ever. You know that Baron, itdo, monique, are not around right now, as well as RESAR, AEC23, JWfan, and many more. We'll keep this going and when the others get back, we'll get them to the vote. We won't loose the top 100.

But I have voted the last couple of days, myself.

Cheers, Hondo B)

hi robbie,

i try and vote every time i come to the board but as you say i haven't seen much difference but like hondo and chester has said we can only do our best and vote once a day.

cheers smokey

I have thrown my vote to The Searchers! Recently, in an article in the newspaper, out of 100 western movies listed, The Searchers was listed as #1! I hope this ecourages all of you about the movie. :D

Baron

Thanks for that last post its good to here these things and its good to see you back on the board although you were only gone one day you were missed. :huh:

I have posted an email to IMDB regarding several key issues.

First of all the profile of his was very inaccurate with errors like this "The name of his production company came from the movie 'Reap the Wild Wind" and most of his quotes were wrong.

Trivia regarding his movies are also wrong, The Sons of Katie Elder trivia claims that is was 18 months after his cancer operation berfore he returned to movie making but I am almost sure that it was not as long as this.

For those errors that I am sure of I have posted them off to IMDB with the corrections and if anyone else on this board spots errors don't be afraid to post them off.

Does anyone know how the voteing on this site works and how many more ten star votes 'The Searchers' needs to progress.

A number of Dukes movies like THATM have no picture for them on the main details page and films like TSOKE have naff pictures so if anyone possibly Baron have any pictures psot them off to IMDB this would promote these movies a little better.

Thats all for now thanks and remember keep voteing for 'The Searchers' with 10* votes it currently has 2451 so by Moday I'm hoping for at least 2460.

Cheers
cyas

:agent:

Robbie,

Well, I just put in my vote, and the total vote count is 2454, so I bet we'll get there by Monday. Oh, with my vote it will be at 2455. So, 5 to go. Everyone please vote for The Searchers.

Thanks for the update, Robbie.

Cheers, Hondo B)

I seem to have baffled some people with the voteing procedures at IMDb but I will try to explain them here as best I can.

1. You can vote for as many movies as you want.
2. You can only vote for the same movie once every 24 hours
3 A vote of less than ten will have an adverse effect on the movie.

Since my last post voteing for 'The Searchers' has gone very well and I think we will make the target I set earlier by Monday.

Mike(Hondo) echoed my own sentiments on this topic perfectly earlier in the chatroom forum. If can get Dukes movies up to high postions on the list then people whom have not seen these movies may be interested in them and seek to watch them this will ultimately help increase interest in the dukes movies.

So thanks everyone for your supposrt on this topic and PLEASE keep voteing and voteing until a real differnce is made and when that happens vote again always a 10 star vote.

:agent:

Now I'm not trying to throw a wet towel on all this, and I will continue to vote those 10 stars for The Searchers (and other JW movies), but you should be aware of the following, which I have copied and pasted from IMDb -

Weighted Average Ratings
IMDb publishes weighted vote averages rather than raw data averages. Various filters are applied to the raw data in order to eliminate and reduce attempts at 'vote stuffing' by individuals more interested in changing the current rating of a movie than giving their true opinion of it.

The exact methods we use will not be disclosed. This should ensure that the policy remains effective. The result is a more accurate vote average.

So there you have it. Don't know how their filters work, but I intend to keep voting anyway.

Chester :headbonk:

Originally posted by chester7777@Sep 2 2003, 09:32 AM
Robbie (and everybody else),

Once you have voted on any movies, IMDb maintains a list of the movies on which you have voted, which you may access at any time (probably have to wait at least 24 hours for a movie to get on the list after the first vote).* After that, whenever you go to IMDb, near the top of the screen are some tabs (purple) and one is marked "My Movies" and if you click on it, on the next screen you come to, scroll down a little and on the left there is a box marked Special Categories, and within that box is a link to Vote History.* When you click on that, it brings up a list of any movies on which you have voted.* It is relatively easy to go down this list, click on each movie, and vote for it (10 of course* :) ), hit the back button a couple of times to get back to your list, and keep going until you have re-voted your whole list.** In this manner, it only takes about 5 minutes to vote for 10 movies or so.
We finally realized, after how many times of getting to our "Vote History" at IMDb via the previously described method, that one might bookmark that vote history instead of going through a series of several steps to get there. :headbonk:

Here it is Sunday night, almost 11:30 PM my time, and The Searchers has 2454 "10" votes, and by tomorrow it should register at least two more, as my wife and I have separate profiles at IMDb so we can vote twice. How's that for dedicated "vote stuffing"? :P

Chester

Originally posted by chester7777@Sep 8 2003, 01:17 AM
Here it is Sunday night, almost 11:30 PM my time, and The Searchers has 2454 "10" votes, and by tomorrow it should register at least two more, as my wife and I have separate profiles at IMDb so we can vote twice.* How's that for dedicated "vote stuffing"?* :P

Chester
Hey Chester, you can count my one vote to 2457 for the Monday count.

According to Robbie, you can vote for one title every 24 hours, but can vote for as many titles that you want. I have voted for The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance, The Quiet Man, Rio Bravo, Stagecoach & Red River.

Go and vote and get Duke movies on top, everyone. I'm voting right now.

Cheers, Hondo B)

As of today, Monday 8 September 2003 the rankings according to IMDb we have:

Duke Movies:

98. Searchers, The (1956) 8.0/10 (6976 votes)
158. Man Who Shot Liberty Valance, The (1962) 7.9/10 (4785 votes)
202. Stagecoach (1939) 7.8/10 (3746 votes)
212. Rio Bravo (1959) 7.7/10 (4858 votes)
227. Red River (1948) 7.7/10 (5108 votes)
229. Quiet Man, The (1952) 7.7/10 (2436 votes)

Get out the vote, and let's get these movies in the top 100.

Cheers, Hondo B)

Hello everyone

I just want to thank everyone for their great contributuion to this topic "The Searchers" now has 7000 votes and 2462 10 star votes which is excellent. Unfortunetly it is still in 98th position so keep voteing. I would appeal to peole like Baron, Smokey, Jen and Roland if they havent already to sign up to IMDB and rate 10 stars to "The Searchers" on a regular basis, this is simply a suggestion and I dont want to sound like I am telling people what do do it is of course optional.

Thanks again everyone.

:agent:

As of today, Sunday 14 September 2003 the rankings according to IMDb we have:

Duke Movies:

98. Searchers, The (1956) 8.0/10 (7000 votes)
157. Man Who Shot Liberty Valance, The (1962) 7.9/10 (4804 votes)
201. Stagecoach (1939) 7.8/10 (3759 votes)
212. Rio Bravo (1959) 7.7/10 (4871 votes)
227. Red River (1948) 7.7/10 (5113 votes)
229. Quiet Man, The (1952) 7.7/10 (2450 votes)

The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance moved up one place from 158
Stagecoach moved up one place from 202

Get out the vote, and let's get these movies in the top 100.

Cheers, Hondo B)

Despite our best efforts 'The Searchers' has dropped to 99th position. I am asking every to go to this site and vote 10 stars for this movie and to get people whom don't use this site but like Duke to vote for 'The Searchers' to at least keep this movie in the top 100.

Cheers.

:agent:

Regrettably the Searchers has dropped down to 100th position on the IMDB web site. I have been voting frequently for this movie and I know many of you have as well. I am now appealing to Jen and Roland as well as others who may not have voted for this movie to vote 10 stars for this movie on a regualar basis to improve its performance and to help to preserve Dukes legacy. Mike, Chester, Mrs Chester, Smokey, Chance and Dukefan1 etc keep voting so that we can make a difference.

Cheers
cyas

:agent:

Hi Robbie. I think I voted for it once or twice. I haven't been there in a while but I'll do what I can.

As of today, Tuesday 14 October 2003 the rankings according to IMDb we have:

Duke Movies:

100. Searchers, The (1956) 8.0/10 (7143 votes)
160. Man Who Shot Liberty Valance, The (1962) 7.9/10 (4873 votes)
203. Stagecoach (1939) 7.8/10 (3820 votes)
213. Rio Bravo (1959) 7.7/10 (4949 votes)
227. Red River (1948) 7.7/10 (2490 votes)
229. Quiet Man, The (1952) 7.7/10 (5162 votes)

With the exception of Red River and The Quiet Man (which stayed the same rank), the other movies have dropped since a month ago. I put in my vote for The Searchers, today, Robbie. Sorry, I haven't voted lately. Been out of touch. I'll get a vote in tomorrow before I go out of town for the rest of the week.

Get out the vote, and let's get these movies in the top 100.

Cheers, Hondo B)

I don't believe it but the movie has now dropeed to 101 all I can say is keep voting Chance has got an idea going that could rectify the situation so keep voting until then.

:agent:

I'd love to see all of Duke's great movies in the top 100 and think they should be there, but I just want to remind everyone about what we're up against... I mean, first off, Duke's films are pretty old by today's standards. If you think of all the movies there are in the world and how many have come out since 1939, or 1948, or 1956... it's really kind of amazing that he's doing as well as he is. We're talking about thousands of other movies! He's competing against people who've probably never heard of John Wayne and whose idea of a great movie is Dude, Where's My Car? or something with Carrot Top.

I don't want to be a wet blanket - actually trying to walk on the sunny side of the street here. ;)