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Read the book and watched both versions this week. Got my fix.

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A superb thread. Duke's Alamo is my all-time favourite closely followed by The Searchers

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Hi guys are there two versions of Duke's Alamo around? The reason I ask is because I have a version on Video which includes Ken Curtis singing to his daughter. But in the DVD version I have it's not there so that's the reason I ask if there's a cut and un-cut version out there?

Hi guys are there two versions of Duke's Alamo around? The reason I ask is because I have a version on Video which includes Ken Curtis singing to his daughter. But in the DVD version I have it's not there so that's the reason I ask if there's a cut and un-cut version out there?

Darren,
there are at least two versions, one a dirctors cut,
which included, intro-intermission-end etc,
and includes many scenes cut from the general release.
Without repeating what's already been said,
may I suggest you go back through this thread,
where you will see all the discussion relating to your question.

for example here's a good place to start
http://www.dukewayne.com/showthread.php?t=3755&page=5

Hello, New member here !
The Alamo is in my top ten J.W. films.
Great Greeting between Davy Crockett & Jim Bowie.
I think Duke said " I hear you are pretty good with a knife "
Please correct if I am wrong.

PAL

Hi Peter.A.Limage

WELCOME to The JWMB-
The Original John Wayne Message Board
where fans come to have fun!

Please take a look around, we're a friendly bunch of folks,
and there is a wealth of information to see, regarding the great man.

You may find these links useful:-


John Wayne:- A Newbies Guide to Duke
(http://www.dukewayne.com/showthread.php?t=4134)

Link to Duke's Movies, Co-Stars- Pals Of The Saddle and Movie Locations (http://www.dukewayne.com/forumdisplay.php?f=5")

Peter,and yes indeed
I hear you are pretty good with a knife
I believe Duke said just that,
please check out our thread
The Alamo (http://www.dukewayne.com/showthread.php?t=3755)

Welcome Peter - You'll find your at a very friendly website here at the JWMB. Prop up your feet and join us often.
BTW - I live in San Antonio where the Alamo is located. I am so glad it was the Duke that honored our city with the film which received its world premiere in October of 1960.

Welcome to the forum, Peter. Glad to have you with us. Jump in and have some fun.

Mark

Same here, welcome! The Alamo is my favorite Duke film, so I'm always in the mood to talk about it. Glad to have you with us!

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Since I can't afford to make the pilgrimage to San Antonio, every March 6, I rise early, put on a pot of coffee and watch the director's cut of "The Alamo" on laser disc.

Lest we forget.

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I love the Alamo but can never understand why it was so inaccurate in its telling of the events.I suppose hollywood is hollywood but why go to so much trouble and then not deliver the real story.

I love the Alamo but can never understand why it was so inaccurate in its telling of the events.I suppose hollywood is hollywood but why go to so much trouble and then not deliver the real story.

After 100 years, facts start getting mixed up, and who really knows exactly what the "Facts", are. There seems to be several versions of facts out there.
I think Duke did the best he could at the time, and put together a very good rendition.

Chester :newyear:

What Duke lacked in facts he put in spirit.
And thats what the 2004 version forgot.
That word is patriotism.
ps. The alamo only sells the Wayne version. I have talked to the ladies who work in the Alamo gift shop and They told me they could not sell the newer version.

I love the film,but why for example did he have Jim Bowies wife die while he was in the Alamo when its totally untrue?
Or Davy Crockett telling Travis that he and his men from Tennesse were in Texas on a hunting trip,also totally untrue..
I remember well all the critics comments on this and the movie flopped.
I was and still am a huge fan of John Wayne.But facts are facts.

Patrick.
I also know he did not stick to the facts.
For one he did not write the script. He had a lot on his plate.
The newer version did a good job on the facts.
Ask yourself one question.
Which one do you like better?
Look I have been a student of the Alamo for over 50 years.
I have been there twice and read many books and own every version
on film including (three silent versions).
Even with all the inaccurcies I like Dukes the best.

I really love the film and its much better than the recent one..Its probably more accepted now than when it was released.

I completely agree, Duke's version is the best for me. Since most of the movie goers probably didn't know all the facts at that time, Duke went for entertainment, and to try to inspire people with the basic story. I think he succeeded.

Yeah, this certainly is not a history lesson.
Duke wanted to inspire patriotism in a public immersed in the Cold War and was willing to allow artistic license to trump accuracy. I recall that Duke instructed designer Al Ybarra to give him something "allegorical", resulting in the wooden cross on the chapel to be placed at a fallen angle. I think that was his philosophy about the script.
Duke also did not show Travis drawing an actual line in the dirt and having the defenders cross it to stay. Instead it is more of a metaphysical crossing.


We deal in lead, friend.