Hi everyone,

It has been a while since I have had a chance to get back on, looks like there has been some changes made!

After this weekend, John Wayne day on TCM, I got to thinking, I know watch out!
But I wonder if anyone can answer, how many postions of the military did John Wanye portray? Like being Commander etc. And how many times was he a Commander etc?

Stacy

Hello Stacy!
Here's what I could come up with.

Rio Lobo/Colonel Cord McNally/U.S Army,Cavalry

TheUndefeated/Colonel John Henry Thomas/U.S Army,Cavalry

The Green Berets/Colonel Mike Kirby-U.S. Army/ Green Berets

Cast a Giant Shadow/General Mike Randolph/(I haven't seen this movie, so I don't
know what army he serves)

In Harm's Way-Captain/Rear Admiral Rockwell Torrey/U.S.Navy

The Greatest Story Ever Told/The centurion/Roman Army

Donovan's Reef/Michael Patrick 'Guns' Donovan/Formerly of the US Navy

How the West Was Won/General William Tecumseh Sherman/U S Army,Calvary

The Longest Day/ Lt. Colonel Benjamin Vandervoort/US Army, Airborne

The Alamo/Colonel (Honorary) Davy Crockett/volunteers

The Horse Soldiers/Colonel John Marlowe/US Army, Calvary

Jet Pilot/Colonel Jim Shannon/US Air Force

The Wings of Eagles/Commander Frank W. 'Spig' Wead/ US Navy

The Searchers/Ethan Edwards/Formerly of the Confederate States Army

The Conqueror/Temujin, later Genghis Khan/Leader of his own army

Blood Alley/Captain Tom Wilder/Capt. of his own ship.

The Sea Chase/Captain (Hauptman) Karl Ehrlich/Kreigsmarine (German Navy)

Island in the Sky/Captain Dooley/Not established if it's a military (Army/Air Force)
rank or Commercial Cargo Pilot Rank.

Flying Leathernecks/Major Daniel Xavier 'Dan' Kirby/US Marine Corps,VMF ??

Operation Pacific/Lt. Commander Duke E. Gifford, XO(he is later called Capt. of the Thunderfish, but that is not in rank, only command of Thunderfish)/US Navy

Rio Grande/Lt. Col. Kirby York/US Army, Calvary

Sands of Iwo Jima/Sergent John M. Stryker/US Marine Corps

She Wore a Yellow Ribbon/Capt. Nathan Cutting Brittles/US Army.Calvary

The Fighting Kentuckian/John Breen/Kentucky Volunteers, no rank given

Wake of the Red Witch/Capt. Ralls/Non military rank, ships Captain

Fort Apache/Capt. Kirby York/US Army.Calvary

Desert Command/Tom Wayne/French Foriegn Legion, no rank given

Without Reservations/Lt. Rusty Thomas/ US Marine Corps

They Were Expendable/Lt. (j.g.) 'Rusty' Ryan/US Navy

Back to Bataan/Colonel Joseph Madden/US Army

The Fighting Seabees/(Lt. Cmdr.(I think)Wedge Donovan/US Navy, SeaBee Battalion.

Reunion in France/Lt. Pat Talbot/Royal Air Force, Eagle Squadron

Flying Tigers/Capt. Jim Gordon/American Volunteer Group, Flying Tigers

Reap the Wild Wind/Capt. Jack Stuart/ Non military rank, ships Captain

Seven Sinners/Lt. Dan Brent/U S Navy(Someone told me he was a Coast Guard
Officer, but what the USCG would be doing in the South Pacific pre-war is beyond me.)

The Long Voyage Home/Ole Olsen/No rank, merchant marine during war time

Sea Spoilers/Commander Bob Randall/U S Coast Guard

The Lonely Trail/Capt. John Ashley/Ex-U S Army, Calvary

The Oregon Trail/Capt John Delmont/U S Army, Calvary

The Man From Monterey/Capt. John Holmes/U S Army, Calvary

The Hurricane Express/Capt. Larry Baker (pilot)/Non military rank, commercial Pilot

Men Are Like That/Lt. Bob Denton/West Point Graduate, U S Army

Men Without Women/Radioman on surface/no rank given,U S Navy

Salute (1929)/Bill/midshipman at Annapolis

There are problably a few mistakes that I made, I usually do. The other members of the board will let you know. On "The Longest Day", JW was either of the 101 or 82nd airborne, I don't remember. My son took the movie with him to college so I can't verify it (I think a few other JW movies disappeared with him too!).

:lol:

so baron you have a tealeaf in your family my dad complains that all of his movies keep diappering but he has two tealeaves me and my son don't worry they do come back well may be in the holidays :lol: :lol:

cheers smokey

smokey,
I don't worry about him coming back. He still expects his weekly allowance. So I said ok, you can have it. All you have to do is come home weekly and pick it up off the table! Heh heh! :lol: That way momms's happy!

Baron,

I'm impressed with your list. I can't imagine confronting you on any mistake you made. lol :lol: That is a great list, and I know it took a little time to put together. Thanks for that info. I really found that informative.

Cheers, Hondo B)

I missed one

Hondo/ Hondo Lane/ U S Army, Scout, no rank

It is interesting though, I didn't list TV programs that he was in that he was in the Military.

In Cast A Giant Shadow, he was with the U.S. Army, as a liason officer to the Israeli army.

VERY impressive list, baron!

I'm with Hondo, certainly in no position to argue with you on any of it.

Chester

baron,

glad to hear that he has to come home but you had better watch out for more missing jw movies. and i have to concer with chester and hondo impressive list and from what i could remember right on the mark so a big thumbs up.

cheers smokey

Thanks everyone! I was glad to do it. :D I have noticed that he played a Cavalry Officer in more movies than anything else.

I am going to try eventually to post a "John Wayne Fact File For the Extreme JW Fan" filled with information. For example,in all his movies combined, total shots fired by JW, total punches thrown by him, how many times he had been hit by punches. That sort of thing. Then it could be posted here for all to view! The problem is, I don't have all his movies. That and I would need lots of outside help watching his movies to gather such info. :stunned: I dunno, I would have to think about it.
Your opinions??

B) Baron,

We love to have that information. Chester, and I are wroking (alright, we or I haven't done anything yet) to get up a FAQ for newcomers, and us old vetrians, to bypass some of the repeated questions, and some that might be of interest to us big John Wayne fans.

Hope to have your input in this forum we are working on in the near future.

You have a great insight on many things about Duke.

Cheers, Hondo

Originally posted by baron von Rassilon@Aug 26 2003, 07:38 PM
I am going to try eventually to post a "John Wayne Fact File For the Extreme JW Fan" filled with information. For example,in all his movies combined, total shots fired by JW, total punches thrown by him, how many times he had been hit by punches. That sort of thing. Then it could be posted here for all to view! The problem is, I don't have all his movies. That and I would need lots of outside help watching his movies to gather such info.* :stunned: I dunno, I would have to think about it.
Your opinions??
Wow, that would be quite an undertaking!

Maybe make a list of the movies you DON'T have, and recruit some of us to help you out with it.

I'd be glad to be part of that project!

Chester

I tell you what guys, just pick a movie and go at it! Just let us know what movie you are reviewing, after all, this will give you an excuse to watch John Wayne all day! ;)

Also, suggest any info that we might include in the Fact File. I'll start with the recent question about Military. This is strictly volunteer work, ok??

:stunned: <---Chester after an all week John Wayne movie marathon!

Greetings

If we are to do this fact file I would like some help from everyone. Here are a list of questions I wish to have help on. Some questions may sound weird, but this is a fact file for the extreme fan. Kinda like a logistic file. Once we have enough, if there is enough, I will put it on a webpage. Then anyone who has a John Wayne website can have the link to it to use as part of their site. Credit will be given to all who participate in the endevor.

1. How many movies were sports involved, and what sport? I have 3 so far.
football 1, hockey 1 and boxing 1. Any others? Is this info correct sofar?
2. How many movies were westerns?
3. How many movies was he a law enforcement officer? Detective, Sherrif, Ranger, Deputy, FBI, ect. Aslo is it possible to break this down??
4. How many movies was he a bad guy, even if he turned good.
5. How many movies did he get killed or was dead already.
6. How many "different" leading ladies did he have ( Actresses can be counted only once. For instance, O'Hara is counted once regardless of what movie she's in, I want different here).
7. How many times did he get the girl in a movie? (Here you can count an actress
more than once).
8. How many men did Wayne shoot and kill.
9. How many fist fights did JW get into?
10. How many times did JW save someones life?
11. How many times did he lose the girl?

Any takers?? This is volunteer. This is just a start, if any one has a suggestion, please post here to let us know.

Thanks Baron!
Know I won't have to wonder anymore!
It has been a question that I have been wondering about for some time!
Thanks again!
Stacy

Baron Heres a bit to get you started

Chisum- Shot killed one man
Rio Lobo shot and killed five men.
Big Jake- Killed 3
Brannigan - Killed 1
McQ - 8
Shootist - 5
Rooster Cogburn - Unsure of
Train Robbers - Unsure of

Sports

Tiddly Winks is played in "The Quiet Man"

Chess "Mclintcock" and others

Cards in many of his movies

He swims in Donavans Reef and other movies

There is a basketball match on in McQ


Duke is the bad guy pick from the following


Searchers and Red River - No doubt here

3 Godfathers a bank robber

"War Wagon" and "Stagecoach" hes an ex-con

Hes quite evil in "The Man who shot Liberty Valance" and "Wake of the Red Witch"

He sabotaged ships in "Reep the Wild Wind".

Its a really difficult question to define but I hope this helps.


He lost the girl in the following movies

Searchers
McQ
Sands Of Iwo Jima
Red River
The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance
Reep The Wild Wind
Chisum
True Grit/Rooster Cogburn
The Undefeated
Trouble Along The Way
Hondo

Thats all for now, hope this helps to get you started.

:agent:

Baron,

The answer to your question (#2) is this: {89}
Here is the list of the westerns below.

Shootist, The (1976) [Actor]
Rooster Cogburn (1975) [Actor]
Cahill U.S. Marshal (1973) [Actor]
Train Robbers, The (1973) [Actor]
Cowboys, The (1972) [Actor]
Big Jake (1971) [Actor] [Director]
Rio Lobo (1970) [Actor]
Chisum (1970) [Actor]
Undefeated, The (1969) [Actor]
True Grit (1969) [Actor]
Hondo and the Apaches (1967) (TV) [Producer]
El Dorado (1967) [Actor]
War Wagon, The (1967) [Actor]
Sons of Katie Elder, The (1965) [Actor]
McLintock! (1963) [Actor]
How the West Was Won (1962) [Actor]
Man Who Shot Liberty Valance, The (1962) [Actor]
Comancheros, The (1961) [Actor] [Director]
North to Alaska (1960) [Actor]
Alamo, The (1960) [Actor] [Producer] [Director]
Horse Soldiers, The (1959) [Actor]
Rio Bravo (1959) [Actor]
Escort West (1958) [Producer]
Gun the Man Down (1956) [Producer]
Seven Men from Now (1956) [Producer]
Searchers, The (1956) [Actor]
Track of the Cat (1954) [Producer]
Hondo (1953) [Actor] [Producer]
Rio Grande (1950) [Actor]
She Wore a Yellow Ribbon (1949) [Actor]
Fighting Kentuckian, The (1949) [Actor] [Producer]
3 Godfathers (1948) [Actor]
Red River (1948) [Actor]
Fort Apache (1948) [Actor]
Angel and the Badman (1947) [Actor] [Producer]
Dakota (1945) [Actor]
Flame of Barbary Coast (1945) [Actor]
Tall in the Saddle (1944) [Actor]
In Old Oklahoma (1943) [Actor]
Lady Takes a Chance, A (1943) [Actor]
In Old California (1942) [Actor]
Spoilers, The (1942) [Actor]
Dark Command (1940) [Actor]
New Frontier (1939) [Actor]
Wyoming Outlaw (1939) [Actor]
Three Texas Steers (1939) [Actor]
Night Riders, The (1939) [Actor]
Stagecoach (1939) [Actor]
Red River Range (1938) [Actor]
Santa Fe Stampede (1938) [Actor]
Overland Stage Raiders (1938) [Actor]
Pals of the Saddle (1938) [Actor]
Born to the West (1937) [Actor]
Winds of the Wasteland (1936) [Actor]
Lonely Trail, The (1936) [Actor]
King of the Pecos (1936) [Actor]
Lawless Nineties, The (1936) [Actor]
Oregon Trail, The (1936) [Actor]
Lawless Range (1935) [Actor]
New Frontier, The (1935) [Actor]
Westward Ho (1935) [Actor]
Paradise Canyon (1935) [Actor]
Dawn Rider, The (1935) [Actor]
Desert Trail, The (1935) [Actor]
Rainbow Valley (1935) [Actor]
Texas Terror (1935) [Actor]
'Neath the Arizona Skies (1934) [Actor] [Stunts]
Lawless Frontier, The (1934) [Actor]
Trail Beyond, The (1934) [Actor]
Star Packer, The (1934) [Actor]
Randy Rides Alone (1934) [Actor]
Man from Utah, The (1934) [Actor]
Blue Steel (1934) [Actor]
West of the Divide (1934) [Actor]
Lucky Texan, The (1934) [Actor]
Sagebrush Trail (1933) [Actor]
Riders of Destiny (1933) [Actor]
Man From Monterey, The (1933) [Actor]
Somewhere in Sonora (1933) [Actor]
Telegraph Trail, The (1933) [Actor]
Haunted Gold (1932) [Actor]
Big Stampede, The (1932) [Actor]
Ride Him, Cowboy (1932) [Actor]
Two-Fisted Law (1932) [Actor]
Texas Cyclone (1932) [Actor]
Range Feud (1931) [Actor]
Big Trail, The (1930) [Actor]
Rough Romance (1930) [Actor] [Props]
Great K & A Train Robbery, The (1926) [Actor] [Property Boy]

Cheers, Hondo B)

Baron,

Answer #5.
He made nine (9) pictures in which he met with a screen death. They were:

Central Airport
Reap the Wild Wind
The Fighting Seabees
Wake of the Red Witch
Sands of Iwo Jima
The Alamo
The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance
The Cowboys
The Shootist

Cheers, Hondo B)

baron

he got the girl in trouble along the way and he coached football at a church school
he got the girl in the quite man
he got the girl in donnavan's reef
in operation pacifiche got the girl
will have to do some more research for the others

cheers smokey

Smokey

Duke didn't get the girl in 'Trouble Along The Way'.

Regarding how many lives Duke saved in his movies thats going to be difficult to define. An example how many did he save by eliminating that two million dollars worth of drugs in 'McQ'.

B)