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itdo
September 10th, 2003, 02:08 AM
Let’s try to list all the books published about JW here y’all. I’d like to give you a jump start. Please add and mention those I don’t know – yet. I hope the bits of informations I added along with personal opinions will help you decide if you want to purchase them yourself. Let’s try to list everything that can be placed on a bookshelf – to add the magazines would go too far I guess (could be another topic in the future). I’ll list every original release (also the ones not done in the US), but not the translations of US-books in foreign countries even though they sometimes differ.

This might already look like a long list, but please check it, and add. Don't forget to mention foreign books, since we have members from all around the globe here. Please, let's stick to listing the books in this topic so it can really serve as a guide to the written word about JW. thanks.

DUKES BOOKS: Discussion

Duke's Books (http://www.dukewayne.com/showthread.php?t=4664)
Duke's Movie Books (http://www.dukewayne.com/showthread.php?t=4896)
Duke's Comics and Annuals (http://www.dukewayne.com/showthread.php?t=4691)
Books: Original Stories on Duke's Movies (http://www.dukewayne.com/showthread.php?t=4663)
John Ford Books (http://www.dukewayne.com/showthread.php?t=5958)
John Ford Movie Books (http://www.dukewayne.com/showthread.php?t=5964)
Books: On Duke's Directors (http://www.dukewayne.com/showthread.php?t=4649)
Books: On Pals Of The Saddle (http://www.dukewayne.com/showthread.php?t=4651)

itdo
September 10th, 2003, 02:15 AM
THIS IS ITDO'S ORIGINAL LIST

BOOKS ABOUT JW

ON BOARD WITH THE DUKE by Minshall & Sharon
The skipper of the Wild Goose and other mates decided – years after Wayne’s passing – to publish the pictures they took back then and write the story of Wayne’s yacht. While the pictures are certainly very private – and you’ll look at them with the guilty pleasure that the Wayne family probably didn’t expect to find them in a book – the text is somewhat not up to the importance of the pictures. You’ll find out that one of the mates made Duke a drink of protein and Wayne found it gave him energy – those are bits of information you’ll soak up of course – but then they’re not that important – are they? The book’s a companion piece with the VHS documentary with the same title, and home movies made by the same mates (and again, the same guilty pleasure you might experience watching private things like that)


JOHN WAYNE by Berndt Schulz
A big scale German publication. Certainly worthwhile for the beautiful reproduction of the photos. But the text will get your ears red. One wonders why Schulz ever set out to do a book about the man when everything he writes is either inaccurate in historical fact or just meant to hurt the Wayne image. One of the guys that cashes in on account of Wayne’s numerous fans abroad – but at the same time tries to be smart in writing about this icon he doesn’t understand.

JOHN WAYNE – A TRIBUTE by Norm Goldstein
Just what the title says – a Tribute. Nice Book about career and private life with Foreword by Jimmy Stewart.

JOHN WAYNE – LE DERNIER DES GEANTS
French publication done in tribute right after his passing, good photos

JOHN WAYNE – LE DERNIER GEANT by Francois Pascal
Also a nice French tribute book.

JOHN WAYNE – A GIANT SHADOW by C. McGivern.
Notable perhaps because it’s probably the first book about JW written by a woman. Only a few pictures. Short foreword by Steven Spielberg (who wanted JW to play the General in “1941”, a part eventually played by Robert Stack)

JOHN WAYNE – AMERICAN by Randy Roberts & James Olson
Hefty biography that covers a lot of ground

JOHN WAYNE – ACTOR, ARTIST, HERO by Richard D. McGhee
Another kind of biography: this author tries to look at the Wayne image in terms of fable, tragic heroes, romantic heroes and the sort. Sometimes too analytic. But why not.

JOHN WAYNE – MY LIFE WITH THE DUKE by Pilar Wayne
The memories of JW’s widow. Lots of insights of course in the private man John Wayne. Always interesting that the people that are the closest to stars and write books often mix up the facts about the films. Probably we notice because the fans are the real scholars – and to his next of kin he’s not a movie star on which you can have a trivia contest but, well – their next of kin. Interesting for example that Pilar writes about the infamous incident when Robert Mitchum behaved so badly – they say he threw somebody in the sea – he had to leave the picture Blood Alley and Wayne had to put in to save Batjac’s interests. So many years later she seems to be still angry at Mitchum (Wayne had to cut short his honeymoon to do Mitchum’s part) when it was long since cleared that Mitchum wasn’t to blame at all.

JOHN WAYNE – MY FATHER, by Aissa Wayne
An interesting look through the eyes of the daughter.

DUKE – THE LIFE AND TIMES OF JOHN WAYNE by Ronald Davis
Solid bio.

JOHN WAYNE – THE ACTOR, THE MAN, by George Bishop
Another bio.

DUKE – THE JOHN WAYNE ALBUM, by Boswell & David
Handsome publication, great print, maybe the nicest of the “tribute” books that came to market in 79, mainly to cash in after JW’s death (I mean, why didn’t they honor him in 1978?)

DUKE – THE LIFE AND TIMES OF JOHN WAYNE, by Shepherd, Slatzer and Dave Grayson
Maybe the first bio in which somebody participated who actually KNEW Wayne first-hand, his long-time make-up-man Grayson

THE JOHN WAYNE STORY, by George Carpozi
One of the first bios, written when JW was still alive, but by some guy who didn’t like him too much, and, as he claimed, he had reason to. Oh hell. Duke just shook him up a little at some time. Do you have to go and write a book about it? Published first in 72, and then in an extended version after his death. Yes – to cash in!

SHOOTING STAR, by Maurice Zolotow
Published in 1970, Zolotow was the first biographer to sit down and talk at length with JW – an advantage pretty much no biographer had afterwards

DUKE, THE STORY OF JOHN WAYNE, by Mike Tomkies
Bio published in 1971

DUKE – A LOVE STORY, by Pat Stacy
Written by someone who seemed to really have loved the man, not the legend.

JOHN WAYNE, by Ferrari
Small French tribute publication but “nice to have”

JOHN WAYNE – IN THE CAMERA EYE, by Sam Shaw
If you want to see the private man JW, with his kids, with his wife, at his desk, between shots (lots of Alamo pictures here) AND if you’re interested in the art of photography: Sam Shaw captured it beautifully.

JOHN WAYNE, by Allan Eyles
One of the standard works about the importance and the meaning of his films.

THE COMPLETE FILMS OF JOHN WAYNE, by Zmiewsky and Ricci
First edition done in 1970, when the True Grit Oscar brought a new interest to JW’s career, next edition (as “The COMPLETE Films of…”) came after his death. Probably the first time somebody took the time to count the films and assemble stills to each and every one of them. Still considered to be the definite list – although in the meantime many silent films in which JW participated, sometimes as a crowd extra – aren’t mentioned here.
The German edition JOHN WAYNE UND SEINE FILME by editor Joe Hembus was even larger because this well-known author added more info.

DUKE – WE’RE GLAD WE KNEW YOU by Herb Fagen
A collection of direct interviews with his co-workers. Actually, the concept looks very familiar to the books Tim Lilley did years before this one, but always in limited number and available just to the fans:

CAMPFIRE CONVERSATIONS, by Tim Lilley
Four beautiful books with first-hand-interviews with the Co-Workers, especially those stalwarts who are seldom talked about: the stuntmen. Published in limited numbers. You’ll still get some directly at the editor, Tim Lilley.

THE TRAIL BEYOND
An annual publication with which Tim Lilley will top his campfire series, 4 books so far, and the first one has sold out (can anybody get me one, please?)

JOHN WAYNE – LE COW-BOY E LA MORT by Eric Leguèbe
French author rounds up a great number of famous people (and for a change, people who did not know JW personally, like James Cameron and Ridley Scott) who tell in which ways JW was of influence.

THE OFFICIAL JOHN WAYNE REFERENCE BOOK by Charles Kiesalt
An amount of information of trivia only a fan can assemble.

JOHN WAYNE – AN AMERICAN LEGEND, by Roger Crowley
A book done by a fan who also gives credit to the Wayne fans, memorabilia, conventions, locations.

JOHN WAYNE’S AMERICA – THE POLITICS OF CELEBRITY by Garry Wills
Maybe the book JW-fans love to burn. True, Wills set out to look behind the image. And he did some research solid as a rock. Sometimes we would love to print the legend. But then you always get the feeling he did it in the first place to hurt the icon, not just to bring out the truth.

THE JOHN WAYNE MOVIES TRIVIA BOOK
Harmless fun. Not photos, but pencil drawings.

THE ULTIMATE JOHN WAYNE TRIVIA BOOK, by Alvin Marill
Ditto.

JOHN WAYNE – THE ALL-AMERICAN HERO, by Mario DeMarco
Written by a well-known author in western-circles, he’s especially interested in the B-movies.

THE JOHN WAYNE SCRAPBOOK, by Lee Pfeiffer
A fan lists the films he considers the best, as well as the JW “turkeys”. Good info on the side about memorabilia.

JOHN WAYNE
This Japanese publication has to be one of the great JW books – even though most of us won’t be able to read it. A hefty book with great, clear, and sometimes rare photographs of his films.
This is mostly about the photographs, so who cares about the reading.

JOHN WAYNE, by Alan G. Barbour
One of the first to analyze what the films meant in film history, often quoted. Published in 47. Good photos all the way.

DUKE – THE REAL STORY OF JOHN WAYNE, by Jean Ramer
The biographers will soon run out of titles for their books.

JOHN WAYNE, by Anton Giulio Mancino
Handsome German publication if you look just at the pictures but highly inaccurate if you go further and read the text.

THE DUKE – A LIFE IN PICTURES, by Wagner
Large-scale picture book, don’t bother to read the inaccurate text.

JOHN WAYNE… THERE RODE A LEGEND
Hefty! Great! The only book in which the late Michael Wayne participated. It’s not cheap, but, hell it’s worth every dollar. You knock out a buffalo with that one.

JOHN WAYNE, by Dureau/Christophe L.
Great French book on large canvas, just hundreds of photographs.




BOOKS RELATING TO JW-FILMS

STAGECOACH by Richard J. Anobile
Before everybody had a VCR this was the book to have – and it’s still wonderful: the whole film in photographs, every scene of it, along with the dialogue, and a text about the making of the classic.

IN THE FOOTSTEPS OF THE QUIET MAN by Gerry McNee
That’s what you want to call a labour of love. A filmfan who goes and writes a book about everything to know about the making of this classic. You should read it before you visit Ireland – it’ll help you along a great deal. Great photos, sometimes provided by the towns-folk themselves.

JOHN WAYNE: AMERICA, WHY I LOVE HER
The companion piece of JW’s famous record.

JOHN WAYNE – A NOVEL, by Dan Barden
Surprise! This is not a John Wayne bio, the story is a fictional one dealing with the private live of John Wayne, and, as controversial books go, sometimes with the private PARTS of JW.

COWBOY MOVIE POSTERS by Bruce Hershenson
Featuring hundreds of full-color movie posters from silent films to present-day westerns. Some of JW’s beautiful B-movie posters are in it. If you are into the art of movie-posters and especially westerns, that’s the one.

CANDID COWBOYS by Neil Summers
The longtime stuntman and co-worker of JW, Neil Summers, assembles an astonishing number of candid fotos: from JW to Clint Eastwood, you’ll see the cowpokes relaxing between shots.

CANDID COWBOYS, VOLUME 2
Same concept, other photos. A couple of really-really rare photos of JW on the set of The Big Trail (hey, he looked so confident!)

MOVIES OF THE FIFTIES, by Lloyd and Robinson
Pays tribute to The Searchers

MOVIES OF THE SIXTIES, by same authors
Pays tribute to JW status in the sixties

LIFE GOES TO THE MOVIES
The best pictures the LIFE-photographes took of JW. After this we know why the LIFE photographers were considered the best.

THE ALAMO
The souvenir book Batjac published in several versions (long, short, soft- and hardcover, and in variations overseas), with a personal word by JW and background stories. Other hardcover souvenir books: HATARI, THE LONGEST DAY, CIRCUS WORLD, THE GREATEST STORY EVER TOLD.

A NEWS RELEASE: JOHN WAYNE’S THE ALAMO
The infamous News Release Russell Birdwell had sent to the press when the film was promoted. News Releases are generally just a couple of pages long, with poster art and articles to use by the press – but this one was so overblown it became a 186-page-BOOK (one page for every Alamo defender). It will sell at Ebay for more than 100 bucks – hard to find. If you’re thinking of buying one, do it now – prices are going through the roof.

JOHN WAYNE’S THE ALAMO by Clark & Andersen
The monumental task of researching every step of the making of the epic, as well as the restoration, along with many beautiful pictures.

ALAMO MOVIES by Frank Thompson
Everything you ever wanted to know about the Alamo films from the silents to the IMAX-presentation (for example: they used the same coat on Laurence Harvey’s Travis as in the later IMAX film). Very good research and real rare photos.

ALAMO – JOHN WAYNES FREIHEITSEPOS, by Andrea Rennschmid
German publication, uses German lobby-cards but not too much research here.

LA PRISONNIERE DU DESERT, by Jean-Louis Leutrat
Over-analytical French publication about the meaning of The Searches in metaphysical ways: the scalping of Scar compared to the beheading of the Medusa. Tough stuff.

THE QUIET MAN – MOVIES MADE IN IRELAND
Small book you might want to buy just as a souvenir when in Cong, Ireland.

THE QUIET MAN – QUIZ 1000, by Des Byrne
Kinda different trivia book which you’ll probably get only in Ireland: Questions you might be able to answer when you’ve seen the film about a 1000 times (and some of us are almost there, no?)

STAGECOACH, by Edward Buscombe
Analyze this! A scene by scene analysis.

STAGECOACH
The complete film script with added information for film scholars.

TRUE GRITS, by Lee Pfeiffer and Michael Lewis
All right. This is a cook-book, using the titles of Wayne-films for receipts. Like “Cahill’s United States Mushrooms”. Those are NOT receipts for menus Walter Brennan cooked up at the chuckwagon, they are in no way related to the films. Oh well. At least there are some pictures.

JOHN WAYNE PAPERDOLLS
OK. There’s JW in his underwear and you cut out costumes from his films to dress him. Never figured that one out.

THE FALL GUY, by Chuck Roberson
The biography of Wayne’s longtime double is just loads of fun. This guy doesn’t care about analyzing the films he helped make – he rather remembers the poker games, the women folks, the fights on the sets. It’s out of print so if you come across one, grab it.

STUNTMAN, by Yakima Cannut
Yes, Yak earned his money as a stuntman, he really started out with JW in the serials. So we won’t complain about the rather stiff writing of his biography – it’s great insight.

HOW TO MAKE A JEWISH MOVIE, by Melville Shavelson
The Director of the ill-fated Cast a Giant Shadow reveals what went wrong: Everything! This has to be the funniest book on filmmaking. The only one he doesn’t make fun of is Wayne who helped him produce this thing – and got burned again (Shavelson told him: “Duke, this is like the Alamo in Israel!” to get him interested). Kirk Douglas didn’t like Shavelson’s accounts (sure, he looks like the baddie!) – in his own biography he got some payback when he said a man more Jewish than Shavelson would have made a better picture.




BOOKS RELATING TO THE WESTERN GENRE (so JW is referred to)

THE MAKING OF THE GREAT WESTERNS
Interesting background about the making of classics from Stagecoach to The Wild Bunch.

WESTERN-KINO, by Roloff and Seesslen
German-published, very analytical, uses good illustrations, such as lobby-cards.

GREAT HOLLYWOOD WESTERNS
A book so monumental one has to buy a new book-shelf along with the book. Great photographs.

WHERE GOD PUT THE WEST, by Bette Stanton
Deals with films made in the Moab, Utah, territory. Can help you find locations.

A PICTORAL HISTORY OF THE WESTERN FILM, by Everson
A standard book, published when the western wasn’t dead yet.

THE WEST THAT NEVER WAS, by Tony Thomas
Author points to films which should not go unnoticed, among them Wayne’s “Born to the West”

CIVIL WAR CINEMA, by John Cassidy
Deals with Gone With The Wind, Red Badge of Courage, Horse Soldiers and others

THE LIFE AND TIMES OF THE WESTERN MOVIE, by Jay Hyams
Well-illustrated

COWBOY MOVIES, by Norman Richards
For beginners.

WESTERN MOVIES, by Walter C. Clapham
Takes a look at some that mostly go unnoticed.

THUNDER IN THE DUST, by Hamilton
The most beautiful photographs taken during the shooting of some JW westerns and others, reveals some movie-making techniques.

LEGENDARY WESTERNS, by Peter Guttmacher
This is fun if you love the western.

THE WESTERN, by Phil Hardy.
400 pages A-Z encyclopedia. Has some good points.

WESTERN-LEXIKON, by Joe Hembus
Standard encyclopedia, the first ever issued in Germany, covers a lot of ground, and actually more than the US encyclopedia.

A PICTORAL HISTORY OF WESTERNS, by Parkinson
Good choice of pictures.

LE WESTERN, by Brion
Oui, they don’t come any better than this big French book. Uses original film cells as illustrations. Le French, they really love the cinema, n’pas?

THE WESTERN READER
Dives deeply. Psychoanalyzes The Searchers, for instance. Interviews with Clint and Anthony Mann.

THE COWBOY IN ART
Relates to the icon of the US cowboy in paintings (such as Olaf Wieghort’s who painted the ones we enjoy in the El Dorado title sequence). John Wayne wrote the foreword to this book.



BOOKS RELATING TO THE WAR FILM (so JW is referred to)

THE GREAT WAR FILMS, by Lawrence Quirk
Handsome pictures, good read.

VIETNAM ON FILM, by Adair
Takes a look at Green Berets

HOLLYWOOD GOES TO WAR, by Koppes
How Hollywood worked in the war effort

WAR MOVIES, by Garland
A-Z to the war movie genre

PROJECTIONS OF WAR, by Thomas Doherty
Deals with the importance of films as propaganda.

VIDEOHOUND’S WAR MOVIES, by M. Mayo
Describes every war film available. Enjoyable trivia.

A PICTORAL HISTORY OF WAR FILMS, by Clyde Jeavons
The whole story of the genre.

WAR MOVIES, by Jay Hyams
The whole story of the genre.



BOOKS ABOUT WAYNE’S DIRECTORS (so JW is referred to)

JOHN FORD, by Peter Bogdanovich
One read is not enough. Bogdanovich is of course now a filmmaker in his own right. His visit to Ford in Monument Valley and his long interview is now legendary.

JOHN FORD, by Joseph McBride and Michael Wilmington
Will give you lots of insight

PAPPY, THE LIFE OF JOHN FORD, by Dan Ford
Written by his grandson. A must.

JOHN FORD INTERVIEWS
Ford in his own words: So he DID give interviews. About two dozen of them.

COMPANY OF HEROES, by Harry Carey jr.
In my opinion, not only the best book about Ford, it’s also one of the best about Wayne as well. The long-time member of Ford’s Stock company tells it all. And it’s so much fun.

JOHN FORD
Published by the French Cahiers de Cinema, which are of course the movie critics who started to look at films differently in the Fifties, so men like Budd Boetticher could be discovered as cult directors. They analyze Ford at length. Good photographs.

JOHN FORD, THE MAN AND HIS FILMS, by Tag Gallagher
Considered to be the man who knows Ford’s work the best. I once attended a screening of Ford’s documentary “Battle of Midway” and Callagher asked us to see it twice the same evening. He knows his stuff. Beware: this is written from the perspective of a film professor, not from a man who loves Ford and wants to tell about this love.

ABOUT JOHN FORD, by Lindsay Anderson
Now he is the contrary to Callagher – a film student who admires Ford for what he is: Cinemas greatest poet. Anderson met Ford several times.

THE WESTERN FILMS OF JOHN FORD, by J.A. Place
Deals with every single Ford western, beautifully illustrated, interesting points.

THE NON-WESTERN FILMS OF JOHN FORD
The companion piece, by same author.



HOWARD HAWKS, by Robin Wood
Standard work, often quoted from.

HAWKS ON HAWKS, by Joseph McBride
The Best – Hawks gives a long interview, very much like Francois Truffaut’s famous interview with Hitchcock.

HOWARD HAWKS, STORYTELLER, by Gerald Mast
Interesting points.

HOWARD HAWKS, by Noel Simsolo
Nothing new here.

JOHN HUSTON, AN OPEN BOOK
His biography. He himself couldn’t figure out quite right what the hell went wrong with Barbarian and the Geisha. An interesting life to read about.

HOLLYWOOD TRAILBOSS, by Burt Kennedy
Kennedy’s biography, lots of funny stories.




ORIGINAL STORIES (books JW films are based on)

THEY WERE EXPANDABLE, by W.L. White
One of the first books published in WWII dealing with the real people on the front, the basis of Ford’s film and Spig Wead’s script. Highly interesting and very well written. There was another printing in 1945, using pictures from the film, very desirable.

THE LONGEST DAY
Cornelius Ryan’s, who later wrote the screenplay, monumental task to research D-Day.

THE SHOOTIST
By Glendon Swarthout. A modern classic.

THE SEARCHERS
By Alan LeMay. One of the greats.

WAKE OF THE RED WITCH
By Garland Roark. The first edition was used in the trailer of the film.

THE GREEN BERETS
By Robin Moore. Wayne found this story before it was published. But then, the screenplay is a world apart from Moore’s combat look.

HONDO
By Louis L’Amour. Just one of the great westerns. Actually, L’Amour published this first as a short story, A GIFT FROM COCHISE (which is also a great story). Then James Edward Grant made it into the screenplay. And only THEN, L’Amour wrote HONDO.

THE MAN WHO SHOT LIBERTY VALANCE
By D.M. Johnson. Complex story.

THE WAR WAGON
By Clair Huffaker. Same author, done in 1957, but quite different than his own screenplay 10 years later.

WAR PARTY
By James Warner Bellah. Re-wrote it to FORT APACHE. In the original, it is the Cohill character who really hides the truth about Thursday’s death (who shot himself!)

THE QUIET MAN, by Maurice Walsh
This and other short stories help you make a transition to Ireland once you open the book. It is, of course, quite different from the Frank Nugent screenplay. For example, Sean Thornton’s name is Paddy Bawn Enright in the original story.

TRUE GRIT, by Charles Portis
Move over, Huckleberry Finn – this novel is a classic.

THE COMANCHEROS
By Paul Wellman. A good western.

THE COWBOYS
By William Dale Jennings. This author knows what he’s writing about. A classic novel and a briefing in cowboying.

RIO BRAVO
By Leigh Brackett. Now this could be just a tie-in for which they used Brackett’s name, not an original work by that famed author (who later went on to write STAR WARS).

TIE-INS
Not original books, but written to help advertise the film, were produced for THE ALAMO, HATARI, MCQ, TRAIN ROBBERS, CAHILL, BIG JAKE, CHISUM, MCLINTOCK, TRAIN ROBBERS…

itdo
September 10th, 2003, 02:15 AM
Duke's Books

click here for the latest list:-

Duke's Books (http://www.dukewayne.com/showthread.php?t=4664)

itdo
September 10th, 2003, 03:31 AM
BOOKS RELATING TO THE WAR FILM (so JW is referred to)

couldn't resist to list that one, too :) for the benefit of our German-speaking readers:

"HOLLYWOOD FÜHRT KRIEG", the story of how Hollywood shaped the icon of the American G.I.

www.film-buch.de/151.html

dukefan1
September 10th, 2003, 06:53 AM
More original stories made into JW movies

RED RIVER by Borden Chase. Great read, but Dunson dies in the book. Prefered the movie ending
THE HORSE SOLDIERS By Harold Sinclair. Story based on a true raid into Confederate territory. The part of Hanna isn't in the book.
REAP THE WILD WIND By Thelma Strabel. Not much like the movie, but enjoyable sea-faring story.
SHEPHERD OF THE HILLS By Harald Bell Wright. I LOVE this book. The story is way different then the movie, but the characters are the same, only Aunt Molly is a very kind woman. I highly recommend this one!
THE HIGH AND THE MIGHTY By Ernest K. Gahn. I bought this one in an antique store for a buck! What a find. Great story that the movie pretty much followed. Goes into great detail on each of the passengers and their story line.
THE DARK COMMAND By W. R. Burnett. I havn't read this one yet (just got it off ebay for a buck!) Will let you know how I liked it when I read it.

Great idea, listing these books. Makes a great reference list for those of us who can't read enough and enjoy a great story. Dukefan1

A Girl Named Jen
September 10th, 2003, 08:20 AM
Homeric! ;)

But as pathetic and inadequate as I feel at this moment, I actually have something to add to this list. I can scarcely believe it meself.

THE COMPLETE GUIDE TO THE QUIET MAN by Des McHale
Amazingly and astoundingly in-depth. Includes the short story by Maurice Walsh that inspired the film, a complete cast list (including the names of stunt doubles, the names of all the horses, the names of extras, the names of everyone in any way [no matter how insignificant] connected with the film and their entire life story, it would seem), complete & detailed maps of locations in case anyone wants to do a pilgrimage, new photos of all the locations... it's mind-boggling. There are also some great photos taken behind the scenes and lots of behind the scenes anecdotes. Every scene and practically every shot and every word of dialogue is analyzed in depth - from perspectives varying from historical, to symbolic, to Irish folkloric, to technical... the guy makes a big deal about a stupid little fly landing on Maureen O'Hara's cheek, for cryin' out loud.

But it's a lot of fun if you love this movie, and who doesn't love this movie?

dukefan1
September 10th, 2003, 09:22 AM
I just stopped in again to let ya all know, there is a copy of The High And The Mighty on ebay going for $6 right now. I don't see this one selling that often, so if you want to bid on it, click here (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3550575618&category=271) . I have gotten quite a few books off ebay and have never been disapointed. Dukefan1

CHANCE
September 10th, 2003, 11:34 AM
Hi guys i have an old western novel which i've just found in my cupboard forgot i had it . I've never read it . it's called OH, PROMISED LAND by James Street,on the front of the book it has soon to be filmed by 20th Century-Fox. Funny thing is also on the front it has a painting of John Wayne.It was published in 1958. :stunned:

chester7777
September 11th, 2003, 01:56 AM
itdo,

A gigantic THANKS to you for posting all of this!! For us who are newbies in the collecting of books related to the Duke, it looks like we've got our work cut out for us. It's really great having all this info in one location, instead of a piece here and a tidbit there, to have to search out. You know, some people posts lists on Amazon, and I think you've got the grand-daddy of lists right here!

:D

itdo, you are truly amazing!

Chester :cowboy: and the Mrs. :rolleyes:

itdo
September 12th, 2003, 09:13 AM
That Jethro... er, Chester! Always has a good word for anybody, don't he?

Now back to books: I'm sure there must be lots of foreign versions we don't know about as well. Go list'em!

itdo
September 16th, 2003, 06:32 AM
Those I haven’t read myself, so I didn’t include them in the list, but since nobody pointed them out:

Our fellow member of this board, Ermal, has written three books, sequels (or rather: prequels, as this term is in fashion more and more) to „The Cowboys“. „Across the Brazos“, „The Man from the Brazos“ and „Call of the Brazos“, with permission of the author’s family of the original novel. The story deals with Wil Andersen’s two sons, long before Wil used schoolboys as cowhands. Ermal himself is on the cover, under the shadow of his sombrero you could expect to find JW.

BTW, didn't know W.R. Burnett wrote the original "Dark Command". Have read his novel "High Sierra" (which was made into the Bogie-film by Huston). Great read. Let us know what you think of Dark Command, dukefan!

dukefan1
September 16th, 2003, 08:39 AM
Will do, Itdo. I am near the end of my current book and will be starting Dark Command shortly. Looking foward to reading it. Don't you get a great pleasure out of reading the books made into movies and seeing the difference or similarity between them? I know I do. My thanks go to eBay for making these out of print books easy to get. Dukefan1

chester7777
September 16th, 2003, 11:55 AM
Originally posted by dukefan1@Sep 10 2003, 07:22 AM
I have gotten quite a few books off ebay and have never been disapointed.* ** Dukefan1
dukefan1 (and anybody else who loves :wub: books),

Ebay is a good source, and so is Amazon.com. In fact, before I will bid on Ebay, I check to see if the book is available at Amazon. It often is, and at a fixed price (no bidding war there). Shipping on Amazon for one item, used, is generally $3.50 and I take that into account when determining which place will serve me better.
Also, anything bought new that adds up to $25.00 or more, you get free shipping.

Happy shopping! :D

Chester

dukefan1
September 21st, 2003, 01:39 AM
Well, I finished Dark Command. Great book, I couldn't put it down. The movie took alot of the basics from the book, but there were differences also. Like Seton didn't run for election against Cantrell in the book, another man did. The love of both men for the same woman was the main story. As in the film, Seton got her in the end, but I didn't want him to. She put him through too much throughout the book because she KNEW he loved her and would be there no matter what. I do recommend it to others who like a good story. Now I gotta find me another Duke movie book to read. Ebay (and Amazon, Chester ;) ) here I come. lol Dukefan1

itdo
September 22nd, 2003, 02:06 AM
Lets' add the comic BOOKS: "John Wayne Adventure Annual"

Five of them have been released in the Fifties as books, containing written stories, comic adventures, and even short stories on John Wayne, with great cover artwork.
Since they were made by a company in the UK and are mostly sold from collectors in Britain (ebay buyers seem to shy away from anyting outside the US) they are not as costly as the US comics. If you are not looking for a perfect copy without any wear then you should be able to get them off ebay for under 15 $ or so.

itdo
September 27th, 2003, 08:02 AM
those I haven't read myself:

Original stories:

STAGE TO LORDSBURG, by Ernest Haycox - the original story to "Stagecoach"

BORN TO THE WEST, by Zane Grey (aka "Helltown" as a movie)

Books about the western genre:

"ILLUSTRIERTE FILMBÜHNE", BY JOE HEMBUS
published in Germany: this is really interesting because it contains souvenir programs of 50 classic westerns. The US never had souvenir programs, except for the real "biggies". In Germany (and some other countries, like Sweden) each film got his souvenir program, mostly a neatly done 4-page-program with pictures and synopsis and interesting artwork. Those were then sold right at the movie-house at an affordable price (during the war years and the shortage on paper, they still produced them but cut down from 4 to 2 pages). Among the ones chosen to represent 50 westerns are Fort Apache, Yellow Ribbon, Rio Bravo, Stagecoach...


BTW, dukefan: I've read the script for "Reap the Wild Wind" - did you know it was partly written by Alan Le May who went on to write the novel "The Searchers"? Would you recommend the original book?

dukefan1
September 27th, 2003, 10:43 AM
Yes, Itdo, I wold recommend the book. I enjoyed it and plan on reading it again. It wasn't one I couldn't put down, but enjoyed all the same. Now Wake Of The Red Witch was better. I highly recommend that one. Great in character depth. Gives you a better look into the characters then the movie could. The love story in it isn't as deep as in the movie, but the personal battle between Sydney and Ralls is more entralling. A great read! Dukefan1

A Girl Named Jen
September 28th, 2003, 07:56 AM
Re: Ralls & Sydney in The Wake of the Red Witch. Could you (or anyone else for that matter) explain it to me a little bit? Sydney seemed like a complete wacko creep to me - one second he wants Ralls dead and the next he's practically in tears because he thinks Ralls IS dead. He seemed sort of effeminate and gay to me too (here we go again! sorry!) which made me wonder if his feelings for Ralls were a bit confused...

What a strange movie with a completely strange ending - over the top sappy and corny and not at all the way I like to see a Duke film end. If my boy's gotta die, have him die like he did in Sands of Iwo Jima. Now that made me bawl.

A sidenote: I noticed that some of the kisses between Duke & Gail Russell looked pretty real. Not to be too explicit, but they weren't some of those firm closed-mouth kind of kisses you often see in old films. Then I read that Duke & Ms. Russell were romantically involved. None of my business, of course, just something I noticed in the film.

itdo
September 28th, 2003, 12:32 PM
Hi Jen
would you mean the book "Wake of the Red Witch"? In this topic, the literature only, please, so to finally get the "Definitive list of JW books".

I'd like to add this one to suggest to check it out - haven't read it myself, but it's a classic and has been made into film several times, once - even before the John Wayne version - starring Gary Cooper:

"THE SPOILERS", BY REX BEACH

A Girl Named Jen
October 10th, 2003, 08:44 AM
Roland, please forgive me if these have already been mentioned (though I don't think they have).

I work at a big huge university with a big huge library and thus have access to lots of books on just about any topic. There are probably lots of Duke titles but for now I've got a couple I can share with you to add to your list:

John Ford's Stagecoach
Edited by Barry Keith Grant
Published 2003, copyright Cambridge University Press
ISBN 0-521-79331-9 (hardcover)
ISBN 0-521-79743-8 (paperback)

So far it's pretty interesting - the kind of stuff I think you'd enjoy reading. It consists mostly of critical essays written by various film scholars/historians. For example, "Stagecoach and Hollywood's A-Western Renaissance," "Powered by a Ford?: Dudley Nichols, Authorship, and Cultural Ethos in Stagecoach," "That Past, This Present: Historicizing John Ford, 1939," "A Little Bit Savage: Stagecoach and Racial Representation," "Be a Proud, Glorified Dreg: Class, Gender, and Frontier Democracy in Stagecoach," & "Stagecoach and the Quest for Selfhood." There are also three contemporary (i.e., 1939) reviews of the film.

The second one I have to mention is called:

John Ford's Westerns: A Thematic Analysis with a Filmography
By William Darby
Published 1996, copyright McFarland & Company, Inc. Publishers
ISBN: 0-7864-0080-3

As the title suggests, it's all about Ford's westerns. Most of it is critical analysis and I'd say it's pretty well done. The Duke films that are analyzed in depth are The Horse Soldiers, Fort Apache, Rio Grande, She Wore a Yellow Ribbon, The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance, Three Godfathers, The Searchers, and Stagecoach.

Cheers, matey!

itdo
October 11th, 2003, 01:07 PM
"CUT, PRINT - AND THAT'S A WRAP", by Paul Helmick.

Written in 2001, Howard Hawks' reliable assistant director and 2nd unit director Helmick tells the tales of his Hollywood years. He was around when they made some of the Hawks classics, as well as the films with Wayne: Rio Bravo (it was him who suggested to cast Dean Martin to Hawks), El Dorado, Rio Lobo. Of special interest I found his descriptions of working in Africa on Hatari. This must have been the techniqually most difficult film to make up to that point! Helmick would go out and shoot animal action (with, yes, the doubles) then call Hawks who would come in the next day and shoot scenes they just made up so they would fit to the things Helmick got in the cane. For the spectacular entrance scene with the Rhino, they just happend to find one that was mean enough to attack Bruce Cabot's double and they got it on film - the double acted as if being horned. So they wrote the whole entrance around it - writing Bruce Cabot out of the film for a large part of it (for all of us who forever wondered why his "Indian" character was in the film anyway). No wonder it took Hawks more than a year to assemble the cut (other Wayne releases before Hatari were actually shot AFTER it, he moved to Africa right after Alamo, and, according to Helmick, was glad to because he wanted to get away from it).

Helmick also says that him and Wayne never got really friendly, he thinks that Wayne held one incident against him, when Wayne and Hawks were discussing what Ricky Nelson should say when asked by Chance: Pretty young for riding guard, don't ya, and it was Helmick who just came up with the cool line: Just how old you gotta be? Obviously, Hawks didn't tell Wayne that Nelson's response would be just that (he often didn't tell his actors to get a natural response) and Wayne barked: "Since when does the 2nd assistant get to write the dialogue?!"

itdo
October 26th, 2003, 01:11 AM
"Les 80 Grand Succès de...
Western
Films de Guerre
Film d'Aventures"

In his series about the different genres, French author Pierre Tchernia selects 80 films from each the Western/adventure film/war movie. Published by casterman. Very nicely illustrated. In "Adventure Films", Wayne is present with "Hatari", in "War Films" with "Green Berets", "Alamo", "Longest Day" (there is a special section for Le Jour Le Plus Long, with color pictures I haven't seen elsewhere).

itdo
November 9th, 2003, 04:40 AM
BIOGRAPHIES OF OTHER STARS WHICH MAKE MENTION OF JW:

"The Ragman's Son":
In 1988 Kirk Douglas wrote his biography and wrote about his relationsship to his co-star of several films. It seems they never got very close but respected each other. They knew each other before those films. Douglas remembers the premiere of his "Lust for Life"; he played Van Gogh, and Wayne was riding him for playing such a troubled man, he felt that tough guys like Douglas shouldn't portray that for the American audience. Douglas responded that he was just an actor playing a part and "you aren't really John Wayne either, just playing him". He thinks he got Wayne there.

"Robert Mitchum", by Lee Server
all about the infamous incident of Mitchum getting fired from Blood Alley and Wayne having to take over. Pilar Wayne had reason to get mad at him years later because that incident spoiled her honeymoon and when Wayne invited Mitchum to a party at his house Mitchum told Pilar at his arrival "Boy, do YOU need a bra". The boy of bad behaviour live quite a life. Worth reading. Funny incidents on the El Dorado set, too. Mitchum always hat his beloved weed with him.

"Natasha - The biografie of Natalie Wood"
Interesting insights on the filming of The Searchers. It seems Patrick Wayne took quite a liking in this young girl. His father just advised him: "Look out what'ye doin". Note the bracelet Natalie wears around her wrist. There's one in every picture she appears. An accident on a filmset when she was a child left a scar, and she was frantic about it.
You probably knew that her own sister Lana played the part of little Debbie.

In his books "Szenen eines Clowns" and "Eine Farm in Afrika" (don't know if they're published in English) German actor Hardy Kruger tells his life. Hatari! was probably the most important film in terms of how it inflicted on his life. He bought Momella and stayed in Africa. The book Eine Farm in Afrika tells all about his love for Momella. The infamous drinking incident when him and Wayne drank themselves silly one night is in "Szenen eines Clowns". This man knows how to write!

"Me", by Katharine Hepburn
Katie had a soft spot for the Duke. In her biografie she writes about the making of Rooster Cogburn. A woman of many talents, she also could write wonderful books. One of the best books about the making of a film is her book about the African Queen: "How I went to Africa with Houston, Bogie & Bacall and..."

itdo
November 15th, 2003, 06:35 AM
THE MEN WHO MADE THE MOVIES, by Richard Schickel

contains interviews with Hitchcock, Capra, Minnelli, Cukor, Vidor, and, of most interest to Wayne afficionados, Howard Hawks, Raoul Walsh and William A. Wellman.
A great interview book. Finally, those giants got enough time to talk about what they liked best and did best: direct motion pictures. There are no questions printed, just answers, so those long interview really sound like those directors would write their biography. For instance, Hawks talks about how he would write dialogue to make a point without the audience realizing that; and how they invented that special camera to film the action in "Hatari". Wellman tells how he found the story to "The High and the Mighty" and how he got Wayne to buy it even before it was published (I like the way he tells the story of how he was talked into doing "The Story of G.I.Joe"; Ernie Pyle talked him into it). And finally, with Walsh we hear in his own words about that special day he stopped on the Fox lot when he saw that tall young man sweating it out as a prop boy, offering him an actin job on the spot, and how tough it got on location of "The Big Trail". All those greats have since then passed (the book was published in the mid seventies).

arthurarnell
December 5th, 2003, 05:06 AM
Hi
To add to your list
FILMS ABOUT JOHN WAYNE

JOHN WAYNE PROPHET OF THE AMERICAN WAY OF LIFE - EMANUEL LEVY
(Scarecrow Press 1988)
A heavyweight book dealing at length with all of Duke's films by genre.

JOHN WAYNE ACTOR ARTIST AND HERO - Richard D McGhee
(McFarland and Co 1990)
Another interesting book going deeper into Duke's personna comparing him at the time with soldiers in the time of the Vietnam conflict.

JOHN WAYNE A BIO-BIBLIOGRAPHY - Judith M.Riggin
(Greenwood Press 1992)
A strange book which lists nearly every book written about Duke up to that time and gives a complete version of the playboy interview

THE ULTIMATE JOHN WANE TRIVIA BOOK - Alvin H.Marill
Citadel Press 1996
A must for all Duke fans.

A TRIBUTE TO JOHN WAYNE - Editor Peter R.A.Fryd
One of many brochure published after Dukes death.

JOHN WAYNE THE MAN BEHIND THE MYTH -Michael Nunn
Robson Books 2003
The latest book as far as I know, drawing on the authors conversation with Duke in London whilst making Brannigan and subsequent telephone and personal conversations with many of his co stars. It is this book that reveals the Communist plot to assasinate Duke in the 1950s and 60s. I have just finished it and it is quite a good read.

BOOK ON DIRECTORS

SEARCHING FOR JOHN FORD - Joseph McBride
(St Martins Press 2003)
Another heavyweight book but very interesting reveals some unusual facts and destroys some legends.

JOHN FORD - Joseph McBride and Michael Wilmington
(Martin Secker and Warburg 1974)
Begins with Ford's funeral.

BOOKS BY OTHER ACTORS ETC

JAMES STEWART - Donald Dewy
(Little Brown and Company) 1996

WHATEVER HAPPENED TO HOLLYWOOD - Jessee L. Lasky Jr.
(Funk and Wagnells New York 1975)
Deals a great length with the autors relationship with Cecil B DeMille but includes a chapter on the Making of Reap the Wild Wind and reveals that the squid scene was an afterthought virtually made up on the spur of the moment to appease DeMilles anger and provide an ending to the film.

arthurarnell
December 5th, 2003, 05:37 AM
BOOK ON DIRECTORS INVOLVING JW[U]

One additional book I should have included in my last:-

HOWARD HAWKS - THE GREY FOX OF HOLLYWOOD - Todd McCarthy
(Grove Press New York 1997)
A great book dealing at length with Dukes relationships with his co-workers some of whom he got on with, and some whom he didn't. Great in depth narrative of the making of Hatari

toyota884runner
December 20th, 2003, 11:41 PM
hey, merry christmas and happy new year to you all!!. i was wondering what is the best and most accurate book about john wayne??? i was thinking maybe the one by r. olson called american i believe. any opioins or thoughts would be greatly appreciated. thanks steve

Hondo Duke Lane
December 21st, 2003, 03:56 PM
Steve,

I haven't read all his books, but the one I really liked with very adequate bio on Duke is: John Wayne: American by Randy Roberts & James S. Olson ISBN 0029238374.

A list of movies from Duke is: The Complete Films of John Wayne by Mark Ricci, Boris Zmijewsky, & Steve Zmijewsky. ISBN 0806509457.

Go to this site and get a very good list from itdo on the books of John Wayne. http://www.dukewayne.com/showthread.php?t=497

Cheers, Hondo B)

arthurarnell
December 26th, 2003, 04:44 AM
Hi again
Christmas has come and gone and although I haven't had a chance to read it yet I have one small addition to make.It's a text book from YORK film notes entitled STAGECOACH. It is an 88 page text book written by acknowledged experts on film and media and ideal for A level and undergraduate media students. The general editor is Peter Bunten Head of English and Drama Tupton Hall School Chesterfield. The book gives

Film Reviews

Background to the film

Biographiesd of key players

Form and Narrative

Style and Technique

Culture and Cinematic contexts

Bibliography for further study

Glossary of cinematic terms.

The book is available from

York Press
322 Old Brompton Road
London SW5 9JH
Price £5.99

First indications appear that it is an interesting book well suitable for the serious JW historian.

Another book that briefly mentions John Wayn is 'RADICAL HOLLYWOOD - THE UNTOLD STORY By Paul Buhle and Dave Wagner.
This book deals with the Communists and Left leaning artists in Hollywood during the 1930s and 40s culminating in the Blacklist era. Page 236 deals with the Director Edward Dmytryk and the making of 'Back to Bataan'

itdo
December 26th, 2003, 08:44 AM
BOOKS RELATING TO THE WESTERN GENRE (so JW is referred to)

THE WESTERNS: A PICTURE QUIZ BOOK, by John Cocchi
Trivia-Book with 238 stills, in most questions you're asked to identify the players in the scene. The questions about JW aren't too difficult to answer but still, you should get some fun out of it.

Hondo Duke Lane
December 27th, 2003, 08:56 PM
Found a book with a release very soon. Don't know anything about this man, but could be an interesting read.

John Wayne: The Man Behind the Myth
by Michael Munn - Release Date: March 2, 2004

Find this at this web site.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detai...=glance&s=books (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0451212444/qid=1072579367/sr=1-21/ref=sr_1_21/103-2625450-0369420?v=glance&s=books)

Cheers, Hondo B)

arthurarnell
December 31st, 2003, 06:32 AM
Hi Hondo,
The book you are referring to is in my last but one post and the book you have all been discussing at great length, dealing with the plot to assassinate JW.

One other book to add I think its not been covered before

'Them Ornery Mitchum Boys' by John Mitchum.

Very interesting book covering his role in EL Dorado with a humuorous story of the woodsplinters in the saloon scene.

And in depth coverage of the writing and making of 'America Why I love Her'

As an aside I wrote to John Mitchum some years ago and he sent me two autographed photos one of him as seen in the CD of America Why I love Her and the other as a deputy sherriff playing cards with Bruce Cabot, Glenn Corbett and Robert Donner.
I obviously never knew him but he seemed to me to be a perfect gentleman.

Best Regards

Arhur

Hondo Duke Lane
December 31st, 2003, 10:37 PM
You know Arthur you're right about that book. :huh: I'm not sure why it was put out as a release in March. I was looking around and saw this listed. :) I talked about this book before, and completely forgot about the title. :blink: Could this be an update edition to be released? :o

Sorry for the misconception. :stunned:

Cheers, Hondo B)

itdo
January 3rd, 2004, 03:52 AM
BOOKS ABOUT WAR FILMS

From Italy: "FILM DI GUERRA", by Fratelli
Biiig sized book, with beautiful poster reproductions, fold outs and rarely seen stills. Wayne's Stryker strikes a pose on the cover.

itdo
January 5th, 2004, 12:05 PM
BOOKS ABOUT OTHER ACTORS IN WHICH JW IS MENTIONED:

"Marlene Dietrich, by Her Daughter"
By Maria Riva

Many mysteries about the relationsship between La Dietrich and The Duke, mostly because Marlene was quite a liar. In her own stories she even had to teach Wayne to act; he didn't read books and according to legend she told her agent when she first laid eyes on him: "Daddy, buy me that" (giving the part in Seven Sinners to him). Now her daughter has the last word: She was there when it all happened, and this is really some biography. You could knock down a full grown man with it, but it's worth the read. I interviewed Maria Riva in 1992 when the German edition was published, and what she has to say about the life of her mother is something. About Wayne: she asked him years later (in London, so I guess it was during Brannigan) what made him leave the goddess, and he answered: "Never liked being a race-horse in a barn".

arthurarnell
January 7th, 2004, 04:34 AM
Hi all,
Looking through to answer a question on another post. I found yet another book on Stagecoach very interesting 95 pages, published by the British Film Institue under BFI Classics.

Stagecoach - Edward Buscombe published BFI publishing (1992) and available from 21 Stephen Street, LondonWIP 1PL

Hondo Duke Lane
January 13th, 2004, 11:34 PM
I have purchased three Duke books, and have two of them on hand right now. I have The Duke - A Life in Pictures & John Wayne My Father. They look great, and I am suppose to get My Life With the Duke anytime now. I look forward to reading these books. I know there are other books out there, but wanted these books for my collection.

Cheers, Hondo B)

arthurarnell
January 16th, 2004, 05:41 AM
Hi Hondo
You'll like those books they are very good.

I have just gone through my library other J.W related books are:

HOWARD HUGHES - THE UNTOLD STORY
by Peter Harry Brown and Pat H Broeske.
Published by Little Brown Books 1996

JW is mentioned on pages 239, 255, 282, 289, 391, 392,393,
One part refers to the making of Jet Pilot and tells how the film started filming in 1949, they were still filming in 1951 and because of Hughes indeciviness, he couldn't dtop tinkering with the aviation scenes - the film was not released until 1957 and looked outdated.
It also mentions that when 'The Conqueror' came out the audience howled but Hughes was so delighted that he bought the film outright.

JOAN CRAWFORD - THE LAST WORD
By Fred Lawrence Guiles
Published Pavilion Books 1995

JW is mentioned on pg 139,201
But don't buy the book if you want to learn anything about Duke other than Crawford apparantly despised him because he did not join up.

LOUISE BROOKS
By Barry Paris
Published by Hamish Hamilton London
pp 223, 282-4 412n refer

Louis Brooks making her Hollywood comeback made her final film opposite J.W.

Other related book including John Wayne
Wild West Movis - Kim Newman
The BFI Companion to the Western
The Hollywood WEestern - William K. Everson
The Western |Film Anual Vol 1 - Maurice speed
The Western Film Annual vol 2 - Maurice Speed
The Western Film Annual Vol 3 - Maurice Speed

John Wayne crops up in WILDEST WESTERNS in nearly every edition.

Incidentally can anyone tell me if the magazine TRAIL DUST is still going I used to collect it until a couple of years ago when they moved and I don't knoe if its still going. I thought that was a brilliant magazine.

Regards
Arthur

arthurarnell
January 16th, 2004, 05:45 AM
Hi again

One other book ITDO might like about Marlene Dietrich

DIETRICH
By Donald Sproto
Published by Corgi Books 1992
pp 189-90, 194-5, 204, 207-8, 290

regard
Arthur

itdo
January 17th, 2004, 07:04 AM
GOLDEN TURKEY AWARDS, by Harry and Michael Medved
This book is meant to be fun: it gives awards for the worst films, worst performances in the history of films. One chapter is dedicated to John Wayne's - you guessed it - Ghenghis Khan. But no worries: others have to stick out their necks as well. Cooper gets it for the worst romantic line in "Northwest Mounted Police".


For the German reader:
THE TRANSCRIPT OF SHE WORE A YELLOW RIBBON/DER TEUFELSHAUPTMANN
by Gunter Narr Verlag Tübingen
If you want to analyze this film bit by bit, that book might help. It describes every single shot (551 single camera shots in this film, by the way) with Engl. dialogue and description of action and soundeffects - even gives the seconds per shot.

itdo
February 8th, 2004, 06:14 AM
FILM STAR PORTRAITS OF THE FIFTIES, by John Kobal
this is a selection of the finest studio publicity stills from the Fifties. Not text, just pictures. In JW's case, two examples, both by photographer Ernest Bachrach for RKO. The interesting thing is, the one made in 1957 was made for publitiy of Jet Pilot - which could indicate that Wayne (by appearence definitely in 57) had to come back for a sitting for that film.

arthurarnell
February 8th, 2004, 06:30 AM
Hi
A couple of week ago I bought THE JOHN WAYNE STORY by George Carpozi off ebay.
bought it because it goes towards the set.

However I think it must be one of the worst books ever written on John Wayne.
As ITDO stated in one of the first posts on this subject Capozi didn't like Duke but that is no excuse for the number of inaccuracies that the book contains i.e claiming that the first marriage between John Wayne and Josephine was not a problem as they were both Catholic.

What is worse is that two Heavyweight John Wayne Books - Prophet of the American Way of Life and John Wayne Actor Artist and Hero use Carpozi's book as reference although this does go some way to explaining how John Wayne was supposed to have appeared in Melody Ranch.

Regards

Arthur

arthurarnell
February 8th, 2004, 09:31 AM
Hi

On a more cheerful note some more books in which John Wayne Features:-

Picture Show Annual 1956

Picture Show Annual 1957 - Article on The Conqueror

Picture Show Annual 1956 - articles on John Wayne and Stagecoach

The Film Review (undated) - Maurice Speed - full colour picture John Wayne and Larraine Day -Tycoon

Film Review (undated) - Maurice Speed - full colour picture John Wayne Lauren Bacall - Blood Alley

Boys Cinema Annual 1950 - Red River

Picturegoer 1957-58 Article on John Wayne titled 'The Star That Never Waynes'


Regards

Arthur

The Film Show Annual 1956-7

dukefan1
February 8th, 2004, 10:46 AM
Hello All! Just wanted to add 2 more books I recently aquired of books made into Duke films. The first one is:

The Sea Chase by Andrew Geer - Pocket Books INC. 1955 (originally printed in '48) and

The Stars in their Courses by Harry Brown, Alfred Knopf-Borzoi Books 1960 (was made into the movie El Dorado).

Can't wait to read that one. That puts my collection of books aound 57. Gotta love that ebay!!! Dukefan1

William T Brooks
February 8th, 2004, 05:46 PM
I do not know if I just over looked it in that long list of books on the Duke or not but about 20 years ago my wife gave me a book by PAT STACY about the last 7 years of the DUKES life.The book was "DUKE A LOVE STORY" ! She was his Secretary and later became his last love. She traveled the world with him and on Wild Goose boat with him . She was with him untill at his bedside to the end when he took his last breath. You Ladys will love this book its a real Tear Jerker at the end of his life. It was done by his sweetheart Pat Stacy from a womans veiw point ! Chilibill :cowboy:

dukefan1
February 8th, 2004, 11:19 PM
Ooops, I forgot to add another book to the list I got recently. It is:

Island in the sky by Ernest K. Gann Popular Library 1961 (originally 1944

The movie pretty much followed the book and was a good read. Dukefan1

Stumpy
February 10th, 2004, 09:47 PM
"
SHOOTING STAR, by Maurice Zolotow
Published in 1970, Zolotow was the first biographer to sit down and talk at length with JW – an advantage pretty much no biographer had afterwards"

I was surprised to read this.

I have an autographed (by the Duke, not Zolotow) copy of "Shooting Star". I thought it was very complimentary of Big John but in the note he included with his autograph, he said, and I quote, "This fellow made mighty insulting mistakes in this book and wrote without permission, but I guess it doesn't matter; nobody's perfect."

It seems to me that I have also read somewhere (but can't recall where) that "Shooting Star" was an "unauthorized" biography.

itdo
February 11th, 2004, 02:45 AM
I read somewhere that JW accused Zolotow of "sloppy" research afterwards but he was certainly aware that a biography was in progress and he okayed it - if not the finished book he must have greenlighted the project itself since Zolotow visited on several filmsets (he writes about the making of a scene of Rio Lobo in the first chapter, and there's a photo of him on the Train Robbers set, that gives you an idea how long it took to write it).

itdo
February 14th, 2004, 10:34 AM
THE FILM SHOW ANNUAL
was an annual publication in which "The Stars Tell their Own Stories" - or so they were sold. In the 1950 edition, we find a story of John Wayne, telling "in his own words" how he gets up in the morning, says hello to Chata, then drives to the Republic soundstage, where John Ford is already waiting for him to shoot the interior scenes of RIO GRANDE. While there are many details molded into the story that might make one believe Wayne himself delivered the article, it is of course so that clever marketing put out things like these (it becomes clear with his line "Oh-oh, I better hurry, it seems everybody's one set already" which we know didn't happen with JW!). What is of particular interest is that the Wayne story is illustrated by pictures of his upcoming "hit": JET PILOT! There's a story about (or told by, whatever you like) Janet Leigh as well, and there's a JET PILOT photo as well. So that means back in 1950 the PR machines were already oiled to give Jet Pilot a head-start - and then they held it back till 1957.

arthurarnell
February 14th, 2004, 10:50 AM
Hi ITDO

I'm looking at that article as I'm writing this. This is one of the reasons I posted recently early magazine articles about Duke. In a Picturegoer magazine there is an article 'The Star Who Never Wayne's'.
Despite the fact that the stars relied on their public relations the pictures are good particularly in Picture Show and there are some brilliant ones of John Wayne in the Conqueror, with Larrain Day in Tycoon, Janet Leigh in Jet Pilot and Lauren Bacall in Blood Alley.

Oh to be young again

Regards

Arthur

arthurarnell
February 14th, 2004, 10:59 AM
Hi

An embarrasing incident happened to me a couple of years ago. One Christmas we went to Gravesend for a Charles Dickens Fair (Dickens lived in the area for most of his life and the locals were heavy into his books and costumes etc) and looking through a local second hand bookshop I saw Zolotow's Shooting Star for £2.00. I almost snatched it out of the booksellers hands.

On the way home I couldn't wait to read it and in a blackened coach mine was the only light on. This attracted the attention of the courier as she assumed that I had bought a book dealing with Dickens. When I told her what I was reading she walked back to the speaker system and said:

Ladies and Gentlemen we have spent all day at the home of Charles Dickens and that man is reading a book about John Wayne.

Regards

Arthur

Stumpy
February 17th, 2004, 09:22 PM
Originally posted by arthurarnell@Feb 14 2004, 11:59 AM
Hi

An embarrasing incident happened to me a couple of years ago. One Christmas we went to Gravesend for a Charles Dickens Fair* (Dickens lived in the area for most of his life and the locals were heavy into his books and costumes etc)* and looking through a local second hand bookshop I saw Zolotow's Shooting Star for £2.00. I almost snatched it out of the booksellers hands.

On the way home I couldn't wait to read it and in a blackened coach mine was the only light on. This attracted the attention of the courier as she assumed that I had bought a book dealing with Dickens. When I told her what I was reading she walked back to the speaker system and said:

Ladies and Gentlemen we have spent all day at the home of Charles Dickens and that man is reading a book about John Wayne.

Regards

Arthur
That was funny, Arthur. Obviously you're a man with his priorities in the right place. :lol:

BTW, what was your opinion of "Shooting Star"? Did you also think that the book was, on the whole, complimentary to the Duke?

Stumpy
February 17th, 2004, 09:32 PM
Originally posted by chester7777+Sep 16 2003, 11:55 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(chester7777 @ Sep 16 2003, 11:55 AM)</div>
<!--QuoteBegin-dukefan1@Sep 10 2003, 07:22 AM
I have gotten quite a few books off ebay and have never been disapointed.* ** Dukefan1
dukefan1 (and anybody else who loves :wub: books),

Ebay is a good source, and so is Amazon.com. In fact, before I will bid on Ebay, I check to see if the book is available at Amazon. It often is, and at a fixed price (no bidding war there). Shipping on Amazon for one item, used, is generally $3.50 and I take that into account when determining which place will serve me better.
Also, anything bought new that adds up to $25.00 or more, you get free shipping.

Happy shopping! :D

Chester[/b]
IMHO, this (http://www.abebooks.com/) is absolutely the best place on the internet, bar none, to shop for out-of-print books. Not only are you almost sure to find what you're looking for (including all those Wayne-related books) but it will probably be at a good price, much better than ebay or Amazon.

When I first came across it, I looked up, and bought at a very reasonable price, a book that I last read in the Nineteen Forties, when I was a kid of about 7 or 8. I couldn't believe it when I discovered that book on the site, because I'm sure it has been out-of-print for at least 50 or more years. (I bought the book out of nostalgia, because it was one of my favorites when I was a kid.)

itdo
February 18th, 2004, 02:56 AM
Hi guys
I would love to discuss single books and writers or experiences with you in newly started topics so we could keep lists like this as a tool where each new post means one new addition to that list. That way it could be great help for somebody browsing for books about JW.
Thanks! ;)

itdo
February 24th, 2004, 01:18 PM
CODE OF HONOR - THE MAKING OF THREE GREAT AMERICAN WESTERNS,
by Michael F. Blake

Blake covers the makings of HIGH NOON, SHANE and THE SEARCHERS and explores the code of honor of the three main characters, Will Kane, Shane and Ethan. They had a lot in common influencing movie-goers everywhere. Yet more interesting - to me, anyway - is the story behind the film, the making. After you thought you heard and read about anything there is on that subject, it's surprising that Blake can come up with new facts and lots of rare stills (Ethan and Scar eating lunch together, haha). Most impressive is the research about the shooting schedule. Blake can almost give a day-to-day account on the filming of Searchers. Even if we know of course that films aren't shoot in chronologic order, it's impressive to know how the actors had to work. For example, Wayne shot the ending with elder Debbie first, and only then would do the interiors with young Debbie. Stills from DELETED SCENES I've never seen anywhere before include the scene in which Ethan watches over the sleeping searchers, early in the beginning of the search. Then the arrival at the fort and the Custer scene, also cut. I've read the screenplay, and the scenes are in, but only seeing those stills gives proof that they've actually been filmed, waiting to be discovered, hopefully, for a Special Edition DVD?
Ford lovers will get a lot of insight on how the old master worked.

arthurarnell
March 10th, 2004, 10:29 AM
Hi.

Just out or Just about to be released:

THE LOST FILMS OF JOHN WAYNE By Caroline McGivern
Softback ISBN 0954003136 155 pages

Dealing with The High and The Mighty and Island in the Sky

Recommended Retail Price £19.95

Regards

Arthur

arthurarnell
August 28th, 2004, 01:07 PM
Hi

Just came back from a day in Brighton. While i was there I picked up an interesting book.

Its called TALL IN THE SADDLE
by Peggy Thompson & SAEKO USUKAWA
Its Published by Chronicle Books San Francisco

And it contains 118 pages of lines from Famous Westerns.

John Wayne Lines include

Angel & The Badman
The Alamo
The Big Trail
The Dark Command
El Dorado
Fort Apache (About Which More Later)
Hondo
The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance
Red River
Rio Bravo
The Searchers
She Wore A Yellow Ribbon
Stagecoach
Tall in the Saddle
True Grit
The War Wagon


So if you want to know in what film the conversation went

"I say we do it my way - and that's an order."
"Yes, sir. But if you're wrong don't ever give me another."*


This is the book for you







Regards


Arthur






* Ward Bond and John Wayne - The Searchers

chester7777
August 28th, 2004, 04:08 PM
It appears that all the information about Fred Landesmans Book may have been lost in this weeks "excitement", does anyone still have that information that they could repost?

Thanks

Chester :newyear:

arthurarnell
August 29th, 2004, 07:43 AM
Hi Chester

THE JOHN WAYNE FILMOGRAPHY

By Fred Landesman

536 Pages Hardcover Dimension (in inches) 1.18 x 10.12 x 7.22 ISBN:078641779X

This comprehensive volume covers his expansive film career, from 1926 to 1976

Listed in alphbetical order are such entries on films as Angel and the Badman and Noah's Ark that exemplify the more thabn 170 films that the actor worked on. Each entry includes the films date, tun time, cast and crew credits, reviwes and a synopsise. Also under each entry is a special sectiopn devoted to rare information and interesting details.

itdo
September 2nd, 2004, 11:19 AM
EACH MAN IN HIS TIME, by Raoul Walsh

The only one of Wayne's director's who lived the life of a real adventurer. His very own biography reads like a Jack London novel. He rode with Villa. He was a cowboy. He was a prospector. An actor. Finally a director. And then he discovered John Wayne. He describes the incident in detail as well as the work on The Big Trail, which he renamed THE BIG DRUNK - for all the drinking going on.
Book is out of print now and valuable, but still available in second hand shops.

itdo
September 7th, 2004, 07:57 AM
WHO THE DEVIL MADE IT? by Peter Bogdanovich

Bogdanovich, now of course almost as legendary as the legends whom he used to write about in his early days, does every filmloving pupil a favor: With this book for the first time he releases the interviews he did many years ago for magazines, now in full length. He chats with men like Hitchcock and Chuck Jones and Don Siegel. And the ones who made films with John Wayne: Otto Preminger, Raoul Walsh. The longest interview in the book is the one with Howard Hawks. Even after the interview-book "Hawks on Hawks", this lenghty interview is like having Howard Hawks talk to you, the reader, 25 years after his death, and revealing many of his ways of filmmaking. They talk about Red River (and the finding of Monty Clift), Rio Bravo (and how Hawks got the singers), Hatari (and how they improvised the hunting stuff) and Rio Lobo (and how the leading lady didn't live up to expectations). Men like Howard Hawks were never given credit in the US for their body of work in American Film until Bogdanovich and others in his time started writing about him.
All in all, it's a good dozen interviews in one hell of a hefty book.
Outside France, Bogdanovich, in the times of the Nouvelle Vague, was pretty much the only one who held a torch for directors who had yet to become legends - through these writings. It'll be thrilling to read the soon to be published "Who the Devil Was in it?", holding interviews with JW and Jimmy Stewart.

itdo
October 8th, 2004, 11:28 AM
VOICES FROM THE SET - The Film Heritage Interviews, by Macklin

Probably the most famous interview JW did in print is the Playboy interview. Yet he doesn't talk about his acting at all. He even leaves it at remarking "I don't have a technique". The one that really got him talking was Macklin, and the resulting interview runs for several pages is in this book. It's one of the very very few times JW talks about his acting and his roles, about his trade. He even stops once, saying that he normally doesn't talk about that, but the interviewer made him feel comfortable. So we learn what he thinks about Ethan, even dreaming up a sequel "Ethan Rides Again", in which he just improvises a plot, how Ethan could have gone on after that famous door closed. He talks about how he had to "find a role for himself" in the ensemble piece "Liberty Valance". He talks about how he stopped shooting a Republic quickie one day at midnight and the next morning was on the set of "Long Voyage Home", and having to learn that Swedish accent. The interview was done in 1975, and after all those years Wayne can recite the dialogue of several of his movies, 30 years and more in the past, without a flaw. He talks about how he helped Hawks on Red River, not taking a chance in the script for "Academy Award stuff", as Hawks suggested, but playing Dunson his way. A great interview. In addition, there's also an interview with Charlton Heston, a man who's especially proud of his profession. He studies his peers - and uses two pages in this book to talk not about himself but about John Wayne's acting technique. And Chuck has a deeper understanding about Wayne's acting than most of his critics ever did.

itdo
October 11th, 2004, 10:52 AM
We all know, so just for the record:

'TIS HERSELF: A MEMOIR, by Maureen O'Hara

The long-awaited biography of the Queen of Technicolor who had a special place in her heart for John Wayne. In the final chapter Acknoledgments she thanks a grand lady for her help, and we can take pride in that she's herself a registered member of this board, bringing to our attention Maureen O'Hara news: June Parker Beck.

itdo
October 21st, 2004, 11:32 AM
WHO THE DEVIL WAS IN IT? by Peter Bogdanovich

Now released, the companion piece to Bogdanovich's interview book with famous directors, Who the Devil Made It?
Bogdanovich remembers and re-prints his interviews with icons such as Jerry Lewis, Jimmy Stewart and John Wayne. The Wayne interview is of special interest to us, not only because Waye reveals some secrets, but also because the interview took place in 1975, and he wasn't very happy with his last films - The Shootist was just around the corner then. So Bogdanovich manages to capture the man in this time of his life. A hefty junk of book, but you'll eat it up.

Kalmouk
December 31st, 2004, 06:37 AM
Hi all,
I read the Maurice Zolotov book (French version). I find it interesting, especially these 2 things which are emphasized:
- too much work (during Alamo) and too much tobacco for Duke's health;
- right after the cancer, playing again and again.
Kalmouk

itdo
January 3rd, 2005, 12:22 PM
JOHN FORD by Scott Eyman, Paul Duncan

This new release of yet another book on John Ford won't tell you anything new if you already have other works dealing with his life and his films. But this is by far the best book on Ford yet for photos of Ford himself! There's a great number of behind the scenes shots and very funny candid shots as well as rare and never before seen color photographs (for instance, from the sets of the black & white pictures Wagon Master, Liberty Valance and Fort Apache). Pictures such as Chief Scar getting his hair sprayed for the upcoming scene, Wayne and Fonda playing poker, let the making of these pictures come alive again.

Stumpy
January 3rd, 2005, 04:17 PM
Originally posted by itdo@Jan 3 2005, 01:22 PM
Pictures such as Chief Scar getting his hair sprayed for the upcoming scene,


Surely you jest, Roland. That bad, bad, baaaad Injun getting his hair sprayed? The very thought of that sends me into gales of laughter. :lol: :lol: :lol:

itdo
January 10th, 2005, 12:21 PM
RIO BRAVO, by Robin Wood (BFI classics)

Wood is one of the critics who fought his whole life to give Rio Bravo the status as one of the best films of all times. And if this critic is going to write a booklet on the film, you're in for some analyzes you didn't think of before. He expects his reader to know about the Hawks ouvre and makes interesting cross-references to Only Angels Have Wings and To Have and Have Not with which Rio Bravo really forms a trilogy in the director's body of work (Wood doesn't even mention the follow-ups El Dorado and Rio Lobo which most consider to be the trilogy). Good color pictures as well.

chester7777
January 13th, 2005, 11:22 PM
Originally posted by itdo@Sep 9 2003, 11:15 PM
TRUE GRITS, by Lee Pfeiffer and Michael Lewis
All right. This is a cook-book, using the titles of Wayne-films for receipts. Like “Cahill’s United States Mushrooms”. Those are NOT receipts for menus Walter Brennan cooked up at the chuckwagon, they are in no way related to the films. Oh well. At least there are some pictures.

4467


This little gem has been on my Amazon wish list for quite some time, and recently, needing something to round out an order to over $25 to qualify for the free shipping :rolleyes: , I threw this on. It just came, and I wanted to mention that it has some interesting notes on some of the Duke's films. In addition, at the back of the book, it mentions Tim Lilley's The Big Trail, and also The John Wayne Film Society in Great Britain.

As itdo mentions, the recipes are "inspired" by the movies of John Wayne in title only, and don't represent food the Duke liked, or food that was featured in any movie. Examples would be Hellfritters (Hellfighters), The Fighting CBs (cheeseburgers) (The Fighting Seabees), and Hot Toddy! (Hatari!), just to name a few.

There are some good pictures, too! :jump:

In the interest of not derailing the original intent of this thread, if anyone has any questions about the book, please start a new topic, and I'd be happy to join in.

Mrs. C :angel1:

Jay J. Foraker
January 18th, 2005, 05:37 PM
I'll second Hondo's thoughts.

I borrowed "John Wayne, American" from our public library about two years ago. A fine read!

Jay - :)

falc04
January 19th, 2005, 10:51 AM
Agreed....out of all the 'JW' books I've read, "John Wayne, American" was, by far, the best.

InHarmsWay
January 19th, 2005, 01:22 PM
I bought John Wayne:American about a year ago now and was the best john wayne book i have came across,although it set me bacp 55dollars,it was worth it.

-IHW

Stumpy
January 19th, 2005, 02:50 PM
Originally posted by InHarmsWay@Jan 19 2005, 02:22 PM
I bought John Wayne:American about a year ago now and was the best john wayne book i have came across,although it set me bacp 55dollars,it was worth it.

-IHW

13822


The next time you decide to buy a book, IHW, go to this (http://www.abebooks.com/) site. You can probably get it a lot cheaper. For instance, I think I paid about 12 US dollars (plus 3 or 4 S/H) for my copy of "John Wayne - American".

William T Brooks
January 19th, 2005, 03:46 PM
If you want to know the real John Wayne or Duke, at least for the last 7 years of his life you should read "DUKE a Love Story" by Pat Stacy his Secretary and Sweet-heart for his last years, and was done in the early 1980s after his passing. If you want to see some of the stories from the Book you can go to DUKE A LOVE STORY (http://www.wyntoontrip.com/PATSTACY1.html) Chilibill :cowboy:

Jay J. Foraker
January 19th, 2005, 05:11 PM
Hi Chilibill -

I have read Pat Stacy's book - very moving. I enjoyed Pat Stacy's stories which you have posted - reinforced what she had written in her book. I'm glad that the Duke had someone that was so devoted to him in his last years. I'm sorry to hear she died in '95 (I think that was in one of your posts). She seemed so young.

Regards -

Jay :mellow:

InHarmsWay
January 20th, 2005, 10:22 AM
Thanks Stumpy,will deffinetly need to use that site for my next purchases,I bought mine at Chapter,i believe you have that in the states right?

Cole Thornton
January 20th, 2005, 02:25 PM
John Wayne: American is by far the best. I bought it when it came out back around 1997. Before that book, nost Duke bios read like: "Duke loved children and animals, he never said anything bad about anyone, and was perfect in every way."

Not really, but previous bios were rather shallow...

Let me also say that American does a wonderful job in covering Duke's times, as well. You will learn a lot about HUAC and the divisions in Hollywood and the country. It almost reads like a history of the US during the mid-20th Century. Fantastic book I refer to quite often.

Stumpy
January 20th, 2005, 06:04 PM
Originally posted by Cole Thornton@Jan 20 2005, 03:25 PM
John Wayne: American is by far the best.* I bought it when it came out back around 1997.* Before that book, nost Duke bios read like:* "Duke loved children and animals, he never said anything bad about anyone, and was perfect in every way."

Not really, but previous bios were rather shallow...

Let me also say that American does a wonderful job in covering Duke's times, as well.* You will learn a lot about HUAC and the divisions in Hollywood and the country.* It almost reads like a history of the US during the mid-20th Century.* Fantastic book I refer to quite often.

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I think another good biography of the Duke is "Shooting Star", of which I have an autographed (by Wayne) copy. It's funny - I thought "Shooting Star" was very complimentary of Duke but when I got it back from him, he had written a note on the flyleaf to accompany the autograph. It said, and I quote: "Jim,

This fellow made mighty insulting mistakes in this book and wrote without permission but I guess it doesn't matter, nobody's perfect.

/signed/ John Wayne
1975"

Apparently it was an unauthorized bio, though I read somewhere else that Duke had granted the author, Maurice Zolotow, lots of interview time.

arthurarnell
January 21st, 2005, 03:07 AM
Hi Stumpy you're lucky to have such a memento, I think shooting star was one of I the few books (if not the only one written about John Wayne while he was alive) and I think it started out to be his official biography but somewhere along the line it got out of sync.

Again if I understand shortly before his death John Wayne began his autobiography but alas that was never finished. It might have been interesting to get a sight of what he did write, but again it can't happen.

The worst book By far I have ever read on John wayne was by George Caprpozi which was both awful and completely inaccurate.

Regards


Arthur

itdo
January 21st, 2005, 06:41 AM
The Carpozi book, which was started right after the lung operation, was the first official attempt (to my knowledge).
Shooting Star was official as well - the author even starts it off with the description of Wayne on the set of Rio Lobo; he followed him from set to set when he wrote the book. The issue I have shows him with Wayne on the set of Train Robbers.

itdo
February 5th, 2005, 02:49 PM
BURT LANCASTER - AN AMERICAN LIFE, by Kate Bufold

While Lancaster's and Wayne's paths never crossed professionally, the author makes it a point to use Wayne's political efforts to mirror Burt's. Since Wayne was always "the first" the Republicans asked to help their causes, it was always Burt who was approached first by the liberals - and he never said "No". The book follows a life fully lived by the great life of the circus acrobat turned movie star. When he shot "Cattle Annie" on Wayne's Durango ranch (in 1979 but not released before 1982) and the news of Wayne's death reached the set, they stopped shooting for a day.

itdo
March 14th, 2005, 12:28 PM
RED RIVER, by Suzanne Liandrat-Guigues

From the BFI Film classics series (each entry of a copy into the British Film Institut is accompanied by such a book), this is in interesting read. Written from the French standpoint of film critics, and from the Cahiers de Cinema as their center stone, the author looks at Red River with Hawks as an "auteur" in mind.

The BFI series is especially noteworthy because of their use of filmcells instead of still photographs. By using the actual film to illustrate you'll see pictures in these books you haven't seen before.

itdo
April 25th, 2005, 05:47 AM
JOHN FORD AND THE AMERICAN WEST, by Peter Cowie

As more and more books about Ford's work and life are published, this one won't fail to attract readers who already have sufficient knowledge about Ford. It compares the great American painters, Remington and Russell, als well as others like Schreyvogel, in the most beautiful reproductions, to Ford's direction. The author makes it a point that Ford often studied paintings, especially Remington. In the case of "Yellow Ribbon" he officially went after Remington's style of composition and lighting. Peter Cowie especially analyzes the meaning of Monument Valley in Ford's films and guides the reader through the valley and the different locations he used. A handsome book.

There's nothing wrong with the theory of the paintings, of course, just one thing one must remind himself when reading the book: When paintings and photos from the films are compared, remember that the publicity stills were taken not by Ford - but by the official still taker. Very often those stills are quite different then the Ford's composition in the film. The publicity photograph would often have the actors for a shooting session while the still photographer would shoot pictures while the actors would try the upcoming scene (but not during shooting).

Senta
August 20th, 2005, 06:59 AM
Hi all,
You mentioned so huge amount of interesting books about Duke and related to him that I feel completly lost and have no desire were to go and what next book to order. Now I have only two of them: one by Pat Stacy wich I have almost read and liked very much and Duke. The John Wayne album by Boswell and David it contains a lot of good photos.

Stumpy
August 20th, 2005, 08:07 AM
Originally posted by Senta@Aug 20 2005, 06:59 AM
Hi all,
You mentioned so huge amount of interesting books about Duke and related to him that I feel completly lost and have no desire were to go and what next book to order. Now I have only two of them: one by Pat Stacy wich I have almost read and liked very much and Duke. The John Wayne album by Boswell and David it contains a lot of good photos.

20604


Vera,
There are dozens of good books about Duke. One of the best of the biographies is "John Wayne: American" by Randy Roberts and James Olson.

ethanedwards
August 20th, 2005, 08:18 AM
Hi Vera,
I also agree with stumpy,
that's one of the best around,

Keith

Senta
August 20th, 2005, 08:50 AM
Stumpy and Keith,
Thanks for advise, I shall try to get it.
All the best,
Vera

William T Brooks
August 20th, 2005, 09:39 AM
I got to read for the First Time "JOHN WAYNE- THERE RODE A LEGEND" When I visited the Duke's 26 Bar Ranch two weeks ago. :D It was the only Book about Him in His Bedroom! :rolleyes: It was Great and it had many Pictures that I had Never Seen before. And it is a Very Large Book!!! :fear2:

But if you want to find out about Duke in the Last 7 years of His Life by some one that was with Him almost all the time it would be "DUKE A LOVE STORY" :wub: by Pat Stacy His Sweetheart!!!

Chilibill :cowboy:

Senta
August 20th, 2005, 11:40 AM
Originally posted by William T Brooks@Aug 20 2005, 05:39 PM
I got to read for the First Time "JOHN WAYNE- THERE RODE A LEGEND" When I visited the Duke's 26 Bar Ranch two weeks ago. :D* It was the only Book about Him in His Bedroom!* :rolleyes:* It was Great and it had many Pictures that I had Never Seen before. And it is a Very Large Book!!! :fear2:

But if you want to find out about Duke in the Last 7 years of His Life by some one that was with Him almost all the time it would be "DUKE A LOVE STORY" :wub:* by Pat Stacy His Sweetheart!!!

Chilibill :cowboy:

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Hi Chilibill,
I'm reading "DUKE a Love Story" by Pat Stacy right now. It is very sad to the end. But I like it very much, all she told about Duke. What a great man!
Regards,
Vera

ethanedwards
August 20th, 2005, 11:54 AM
Hi Vera,
You may well have these, but if you want a couple
of good reference books with lots of facts, film details etc.
try these:-

THE OFFICIAL JOHN WAYNE REFERENCE BOOK by Charles John Kieskalt.
THE COMPLETE FILMS OF JOHN WAYNE by Ricci,Zimijewsky.

Keith

Senta
August 20th, 2005, 12:05 PM
Originally posted by ethanedwards@Aug 20 2005, 07:54 PM
Hi Vera,
You may well have these, but if you want a couple
of good reference books with lots of facts, film details etc.
try these:-

THE OFFICIAL JOHN WAYNE REFERENCE BOOK by Charles John Kieskalt.
THE COMPLETE FILMS OF JOHN WAYNE by Ricci,Zimijewsky.

Keith

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Hi Keith,
Thanks for recomendation, I think I will order some of recommended books in the nearest future.
Regards,
Vera

wbbison
December 20th, 2005, 04:36 AM
I have been reading the posts here. Have to agree with everyone here that all of these books are great. I must admit that I have just about any book that has been written in the English language about JW. I cannot read books that were published in a language other than English.

chester7777
December 21st, 2005, 02:36 AM
wbbison,

We have a ton of John Wayne books, too, but don't have the time to read them all. :headbonk:

I noticed that over on the UK message board, you list your web site. I hope you'll take the time to update your profile here and list it here, too.

While checking out your site, I was looking over the titles of sheet music, and I saw "Marcheta: A Love Song of Old Mexico" from the movie They Were Expendable. In the past, we had some discussion regarding some of the music from that movie. Specifically, someone asked the name of the music played while John Wayne is dancing with Donna Reed. Do you know if the sheet music is for that song, or a different one in the movie?

Chester :newyear:

arthurarnell
January 25th, 2006, 12:33 PM
Hi

I have just received my copy of the Trail Beyond as usual Tim has done a fine job looking forward to reading it and giving it a review.

Regards

Artur.

chester7777
February 3rd, 2006, 07:29 PM
Another book on which a JW presentation is based -

Flashing Spikes, by Frank O'Rourke, published in 1948.

Chester :newyear:

mikec1010
September 27th, 2006, 06:00 PM
Originally posted by itdo@Sep 10 2003, 02:15 AM
BOOKS ABOUT JW

ON BOARD WITH THE DUKE by Minshall & Sharon
The skipper of the Wild Goose and other mates decided – years after Wayne’s passing – to publish the pictures they took back then and write the story of Wayne’s yacht. While the pictures are certainly very private – and you’ll look at them with the guilty pleasure that the Wayne family probably didn’t expect to find them in a book – the text is somewhat not up to the importance of the pictures. You’ll find out that one of the mates made Duke a drink of protein and Wayne found it gave him energy – those are bits of information you’ll soak up of course – but then they’re not that important – are they? The book’s a companion piece with the VHS documentary with the same title, and home movies made by the same mates (and again, the same guilty pleasure you might experience watching private things like that)
JOHN WAYNE by Berndt Schulz
A big scale German publication. Certainly worthwhile for the beautiful reproduction of the photos. But the text will get your ears red. One wonders why Schulz ever set out to do a book about the man when everything he writes is either inaccurate in historical fact or just meant to hurt the Wayne image. One of the guys that cashes in on account of Wayne’s numerous fans abroad – but at the same time tries to be smart in writing about this icon he doesn’t understand.

JOHN WAYNE – A TRIBUTE by Norm Goldstein
Just what the title says – a Tribute. Nice Book about career and private life with Foreword by Jimmy Stewart.

JOHN WAYNE – LE DERNIER DES GEANTS
French publication done in tribute right after his passing, good photos

JOHN WAYNE – LE DERNIER GEANT by Francois Pascal
Also a nice French tribute book.

JOHN WAYNE – A GIANT SHADOW by C. McGivern.
Notable perhaps because it’s probably the first book about JW written by a woman. Only a few pictures. Short foreword by Steven Spielberg (who wanted JW to play the General in “1941”, a part eventually played by Robert Stack)

JOHN WAYNE – AMERICAN by Randy Roberts & James Olson
Hefty biography that covers a lot of ground

JOHN WAYNE – ACTOR, ARTIST, HERO by Richard D. McGhee
Another kind of biography: this author tries to look at the Wayne image in terms of fable, tragic heroes, romantic heroes and the sort. Sometimes too analytic. But why not.

JOHN WAYNE – MY LIFE WITH THE DUKE by Pilar Wayne
The memories of JW’s widow. Lots of insights of course in the private man John Wayne. Always interesting that the people that are the closest to stars and write books often mix up the facts about the films. Probably we notice because the fans are the real scholars – and to his next of kin he’s not a movie star on which you can have a trivia contest but, well – their next of kin. Interesting for example that Pilar writes about the infamous incident when Robert Mitchum behaved so badly – they say he threw somebody in the sea – he had to leave the picture Blood Alley and Wayne had to put in to save Batjac’s interests. So many years later she seems to be still angry at Mitchum (Wayne had to cut short his honeymoon to do Mitchum’s part) when it was long since cleared that Mitchum wasn’t to blame at all.

JOHN WAYNE – MY FATHER, by Aissa Wayne
An interesting look through the eyes of the daughter.

DUKE – THE LIFE AND TIMES OF JOHN WAYNE by Ronald Davis
Solid bio.

JOHN WAYNE – THE ACTOR, THE MAN, by George Bishop
Another bio.

DUKE – THE JOHN WAYNE ALBUM, by Boswell & David
Handsome publication, great print, maybe the nicest of the “tribute” books that came to market in 79, mainly to cash in after JW’s death (I mean, why didn’t they honor him in 1978?)

DUKE – THE LIFE AND TIMES OF JOHN WAYNE, by Shepherd, Slatzer and Dave Grayson
Maybe the first bio in which somebody participated who actually KNEW Wayne first-hand, his long-time make-up-man Grayson

THE JOHN WAYNE STORY, by George Carpozi
One of the first bios, written when JW was still alive, but by some guy who didn’t like him too much, and, as he claimed, he had reason to. Oh hell. Duke just shook him up a little at some time. Do you have to go and write a book about it? Published first in 72, and then in an extended version after his death. Yes – to cash in!

SHOOTING STAR, by Maurice Zolotow
Published in 1970, Zolotow was the first biographer to sit down and talk at length with JW – an advantage pretty much no biographer had afterwards

DUKE, THE STORY OF JOHN WAYNE, by Mike Tomkies
Bio published in 1971

DUKE – A LOVE STORY, by Pat Stacy
Written by someone who seemed to really have loved the man, not the legend.

JOHN WAYNE, by Ferrari
Small French tribute publication but “nice to have”

JOHN WAYNE – IN THE CAMERA EYE, by Sam Shaw
If you want to see the private man JW, with his kids, with his wife, at his desk, between shots (lots of Alamo pictures here) AND if you’re interested in the art of photography: Sam Shaw captured it beautifully.

JOHN WAYNE, by Allan Eyles
One of the standard works about the importance and the meaning of his films.

THE COMPLETE FILMS OF JOHN WAYNE, by Zmiewsky and Ricci
First edition done in 1970, when the True Grit Oscar brought a new interest to JW’s career, next edition (as “The COMPLETE Films of…”) came after his death. Probably the first time somebody took the time to count the films and assemble stills to each and every one of them. Still considered to be the definite list – although in the meantime many silent films in which JW participated, sometimes as a crowd extra – aren’t mentioned here.*
The German edition JOHN WAYNE UND SEINE FILME by editor Joe Hembus was even larger because this well-known author added more info.

DUKE – WE’RE GLAD WE KNEW YOU by Herb Fagen
A collection of direct interviews with his co-workers. Actually, the concept looks very familiar to the books Tim Lilley did years before this one, but always in limited number and available just to the fans:

CAMPFIRE CONVERSATIONS, by Tim Lilley
Four beautiful books with first-hand-interviews with the Co-Workers, especially those stalwarts who are seldom talked about: the stuntmen. Published in limited numbers. You’ll still get some directly at the editor, Tim Lilley.

THE TRAIL BEYOND
An annual publication with which Tim Lilley will top his campfire series, 4 books so far, and the first one has sold out (can anybody get me one, please?)

JOHN WAYNE – LE COW-BOY E LA MORT by Eric Leguèbe
French author rounds up a great number of famous people (and for a change, people who did not know JW personally, like James Cameron and Ridley Scott) who tell in which ways JW was of influence.

THE OFFICIAL JOHN WAYNE REFERENCE BOOK by Charles Kiesalt
An amount of information of trivia only a fan can assemble.

JOHN WAYNE – AN AMERICAN LEGEND, by Roger Crowley
A book done by a fan who also gives credit to the Wayne fans, memorabilia, conventions, locations.

JOHN WAYNE’S AMERICA – THE POLITICS OF CELEBRITY by Garry Wills
Maybe the book JW-fans love to burn. True, Wills set out to look behind the image. And he did some research solid as a rock. Sometimes we would love to print the legend. But then you always get the feeling he did it in the first place to hurt the icon, not just to bring out the truth.

THE JOHN WAYNE MOVIES TRIVIA BOOK
Harmless fun. Not photos, but pencil drawings.

THE ULTIMATE JOHN WAYNE TRIVIA BOOK, by Alvin Marill
Ditto.

JOHN WAYNE – THE ALL-AMERICAN HERO, by Mario DeMarco
Written by a well-known author in western-circles, he’s especially interested in the B-movies.

THE JOHN WAYNE SCRAPBOOK, by Lee Pfeiffer
A fan lists the films he considers the best, as well as the JW “turkeys”. Good info on the side about memorabilia.

JOHN WAYNE
This Japanese publication has to be one of the great JW books – even though most of us won’t be able to read it. A hefty book with great, clear, and sometimes rare photographs of his films.
This is mostly about the photographs, so who cares about the reading.

JOHN WAYNE, by Alan G. Barbour
One of the first to analyze what the films meant in film history, often quoted. Published in 47. Good photos all the way.

DUKE – THE REAL STORY OF JOHN WAYNE, by Jean Ramer
The biographers will soon run out of titles for their books.

JOHN WAYNE, by Anton Giulio Mancino
Handsome German publication if you look just at the pictures but highly inaccurate if you go further and read the text.

THE DUKE – A LIFE IN PICTURES, by Wagner
Large-scale picture book, don’t bother to read the inaccurate text.

JOHN WAYNE… THERE RODE A LEGEND
Hefty! Great! The only book in which the late Michael Wayne participated. It’s not cheap, but, hell it’s worth every dollar. You knock out a buffalo with that one.

JOHN WAYNE, by Dureau/Christophe L.
Great French book on large canvas, just hundreds of photographs.


BOOKS RELATING TO JW-FILMS

STAGECOACH by Richard J. Anobile
Before everybody had a VCR this was the book to have – and it’s still wonderful: the whole film in photographs, every scene of it, along with the dialogue, and a text about the making of the classic.

IN THE FOOTSTEPS OF THE QUIET MAN by Gerry McNee
That’s what you want to call a labour of love. A filmfan who goes and writes a book about everything to know about the making of this classic. You should read it before you visit Ireland – it’ll help you along a great deal. Great photos, sometimes provided by the towns-folk themselves.

JOHN WAYNE: AMERICA, WHY I LOVE HER
The companion piece of JW’s famous record.

JOHN WAYNE – A NOVEL, by Dan Barden
Surprise! This is not a John Wayne bio, the story is a fictional one dealing with the private live of John Wayne, and, as controversial books go, sometimes with the private PARTS of JW.

COWBOY MOVIE POSTERS by Bruce Hershenson
Featuring hundreds of full-color movie posters from silent films to present-day westerns. Some of JW’s beautiful B-movie posters are in it. If you are into the art of movie-posters and especially westerns, that’s the one.

CANDID COWBOYS by Neil Summers
The longtime stuntman and co-worker of JW, Neil Summers, assembles an astonishing number of candid fotos: from JW to Clint Eastwood, you’ll see the cowpokes relaxing between shots.

CANDID COWBOYS, VOLUME 2
Same concept, other photos. A couple of really-really rare photos of JW on the set of The Big Trail (hey, he looked so confident!)

MOVIES OF THE FIFTIES, by Lloyd and Robinson
Pays tribute to The Searchers

MOVIES OF THE SIXTIES, by same authors
Pays tribute to JW status in the sixties

LIFE GOES TO THE MOVIES
The best pictures the LIFE-photographes took of JW. After this we know why the LIFE photographers were considered the best.

THE ALAMO
The souvenir book Batjac published in several versions (long, short, soft- and hardcover, and in variations overseas), with a personal word by JW and background stories. Other hardcover souvenir books: HATARI, THE LONGEST* DAY, CIRCUS WORLD, THE GREATEST STORY EVER TOLD.

A NEWS RELEASE: JOHN WAYNE’S THE ALAMO
The infamous News Release Russell Birdwell had sent to the press when the film was promoted. News Releases are generally just a couple of pages long, with poster art and articles to use by the press – but this one was so overblown it became a 186-page-BOOK (one page for every Alamo defender). It will sell at Ebay for more than 100 bucks – hard to find. If you’re thinking of buying one, do it now – prices are going through the roof.*

JOHN WAYNE’S THE ALAMO by Clark & Andersen
The monumental task of researching every step of the making of the epic, as well as the restoration, along with many beautiful pictures.

ALAMO MOVIES by Frank Thompson
Everything you ever wanted to know about the Alamo films from the silents to the IMAX-presentation (for example: they used the same coat on Laurence Harvey’s Travis as in the later IMAX film). Very good research and real rare photos.

ALAMO – JOHN WAYNES FREIHEITSEPOS, by Andrea Rennschmid
German publication, uses German lobby-cards but not too much research here.

LA PRISONNIERE DU DESERT, by Jean-Louis Leutrat
Over-analytical French publication about the meaning of The Searches in metaphysical ways: the scalping of Scar compared to the beheading of the Medusa. Tough stuff.

THE QUIET MAN – MOVIES MADE IN IRELAND
Small book you might want to buy just as a souvenir when in Cong, Ireland.

THE QUIET MAN – QUIZ 1000, by Des Byrne
Kinda different trivia book which you’ll probably get only in Ireland: Questions you might be able to answer when you’ve seen the film about a 1000 times (and some of us are almost there, no?)

STAGECOACH, by Edward Buscombe
Analyze this! A scene by scene analysis.

STAGECOACH
The complete film script with added information for film scholars.

TRUE GRITS, by Lee Pfeiffer and Michael Lewis
All right. This is a cook-book, using the titles of Wayne-films for receipts. Like “Cahill’s United States Mushrooms”. Those are NOT receipts for menus Walter Brennan cooked up at the chuckwagon, they are in no way related to the films. Oh well. At least there are some pictures.

JOHN WAYNE PAPERDOLLS
OK. There’s JW in his underwear and you cut out costumes from his films to dress him. Never figured that one out.

THE FALL GUY, by Chuck Roberson
The biography of Wayne’s longtime double is just loads of fun. This guy doesn’t care about analyzing the films he helped make – he rather remembers the poker games, the women folks, the fights on the sets. It’s out of print so if you come across one, grab it.*

STUNTMAN, by Yakima Cannut
Yes, Yak earned his money as a stuntman, he really started out with JW in the serials. So we won’t complain about the rather stiff writing of his biography – it’s great insight.

HOW TO MAKE A JEWISH MOVIE, by Melville Shavelson
The Director of the ill-fated Cast a Giant Shadow reveals what went wrong: Everything! This has to be the funniest book on filmmaking. The only one he doesn’t make fun of is Wayne who helped him produce this thing – and got burned again (Shavelson told him: “Duke, this is like the Alamo in Israel!” to get him interested). Kirk Douglas didn’t like Shavelson’s accounts (sure, he looks like the baddie!) – in his own biography he got some payback when he said a man more Jewish than Shavelson would have made a better picture.
BOOKS RELATING TO THE WESTERN GENRE (so JW is referred to)

THE MAKING OF THE GREAT WESTERNS
Interesting background about the making of classics from Stagecoach to The Wild Bunch.

WESTERN-KINO, by Roloff and Seesslen
German-published, very analytical, uses good illustrations, such as lobby-cards.

GREAT HOLLYWOOD WESTERNS
A book so monumental one has to buy a new book-shelf along with the book. Great photographs.

WHERE GOD PUT THE WEST, by Bette Stanton
Deals with films made in the Moab, Utah, territory. Can help you find locations.

A PICTORAL HISTORY OF THE WESTERN FILM, by Everson
A standard book, published when the western wasn’t dead yet.

THE WEST THAT NEVER WAS, by Tony Thomas
Author points to films which should not go unnoticed, among them Wayne’s “Born to the West”

CIVIL WAR CINEMA, by John Cassidy
Deals with Gone With The Wind, Red Badge of Courage, Horse Soldiers and others

THE LIFE AND TIMES OF THE WESTERN MOVIE, by Jay Hyams
Well-illustrated

COWBOY MOVIES, by Norman Richards
For beginners.

WESTERN MOVIES, by Walter C. Clapham
Takes a look at some that mostly go unnoticed.

THUNDER IN THE DUST, by Hamilton
The most beautiful photographs taken during the shooting of some JW westerns and others, reveals some movie-making techniques.

LEGENDARY WESTERNS, by Peter Guttmacher
This is fun if you love the western.

THE WESTERN, by Phil Hardy.
400 pages A-Z encyclopedia. Has some good points.

WESTERN-LEXIKON, by Joe Hembus
Standard encyclopedia, the first ever issued in Germany, covers a lot of ground, and actually more than the US encyclopedia.

A PICTORAL HISTORY OF WESTERNS, by Parkinson
Good choice of pictures.

LE WESTERN, by Brion
Oui, they don’t come any better than this big French book. Uses original film cells as illustrations. Le French, they really love the cinema, n’pas?

THE WESTERN READER
Dives deeply. Psychoanalyzes The Searchers, for instance. Interviews with Clint and Anthony Mann.

THE COWBOY IN ART
Relates to the icon of the US cowboy in paintings (such as Olaf Wieghort’s who painted the ones we enjoy in the El Dorado title sequence). John Wayne wrote the foreword to this book.

BOOKS RELATING TO THE WAR FILM (so JW is referred to)

THE GREAT WAR FILMS, by Lawrence Quirk
Handsome pictures, good read.

VIETNAM ON FILM, by Adair
Takes a look at Green Berets

HOLLYWOOD GOES TO WAR, by Koppes
How Hollywood worked in the war effort

WAR MOVIES, by Garland
A-Z to the war movie genre

PROJECTIONS OF WAR, by Thomas Doherty
Deals with the importance of films as propaganda.

VIDEOHOUND’S WAR MOVIES, by M. Mayo
Describes every war film available. Enjoyable trivia.

A PICTORAL HISTORY OF WAR FILMS, by Clyde Jeavons
The whole story of the genre.

WAR MOVIES, by Jay Hyams
The whole story of the genre.
BOOKS ABOUT WAYNE’S DIRECTORS (so JW is referred to)

JOHN FORD, by Peter Bogdanovich
One read is not enough. Bogdanovich is of course now a filmmaker in his own right. His visit to Ford in Monument Valley and his long interview is now legendary.

JOHN FORD, by Joseph McBride and Michael Wilmington
Will give you lots of insight

PAPPY, THE LIFE OF JOHN FORD, by Dan Ford
Written by his grandson. A must.

JOHN FORD INTERVIEWS
Ford in his own words: So he DID give interviews. About two dozen of them.

COMPANY OF HEROES, by Harry Carey jr.
In my opinion, not only the best book about Ford, it’s also one of the best about Wayne as well. The long-time member of Ford’s Stock company tells it all. And it’s so much fun.

JOHN FORD
Published by the French Cahiers de Cinema, which are of course the movie critics who started to look at films differently in the Fifties, so men like Budd Boetticher could be discovered as cult directors. They analyze Ford at length. Good photographs.

JOHN FORD, THE MAN AND HIS FILMS, by Tag Gallagher
Considered to be the man who knows Ford’s work the best. I once attended a screening of Ford’s documentary “Battle of Midway” and Callagher asked us to see it twice the same evening. He knows his stuff. Beware: this is written from the perspective of a film professor, not from a man who loves Ford and wants to tell about this love.

ABOUT JOHN FORD, by Lindsay Anderson
Now he is the contrary to Callagher – a film student who admires Ford for what he is: Cinemas greatest poet. Anderson met Ford several times.

THE WESTERN FILMS OF JOHN FORD, by J.A. Place
Deals with every single Ford western, beautifully illustrated, interesting points.

THE NON-WESTERN FILMS OF JOHN FORD
The companion piece, by same author.
HOWARD HAWKS, by Robin Wood
Standard work, often quoted from.

HAWKS ON HAWKS, by Joseph McBride
The Best – Hawks gives a long interview, very much like Francois Truffaut’s famous interview with Hitchcock.

HOWARD HAWKS, STORYTELLER, by Gerald Mast
Interesting points.

HOWARD HAWKS, by Noel Simsolo
Nothing new here.

JOHN HUSTON, AN OPEN BOOK
His biography. He himself couldn’t figure out quite right what the hell went wrong with Barbarian and the Geisha. An interesting life to read about.

HOLLYWOOD TRAILBOSS, by Burt Kennedy
Kennedy’s biography, lots of funny stories.
ORIGINAL STORIES (books JW films are based on)

THEY WERE EXPANDABLE, by W.L. White
One of the first books published in WWII dealing with the real people on the front, the basis of Ford’s film and Spig Wead’s script. Highly interesting and very well written. There was another printing in 1945, using pictures from the film, very desirable.

THE LONGEST DAY
Cornelius Ryan’s, who later wrote the screenplay, monumental task to research D-Day.

THE SHOOTIST
By Glendon Swarthout. A modern classic.

THE SEARCHERS
By Alan LeMay. One of the greats.

WAKE OF THE RED WITCH
By Garland Roark. The first edition was used in the trailer of the film.

THE GREEN BERETS
By Robin Moore. Wayne found this story before it was published. But then, the screenplay is a world apart from Moore’s combat look.

HONDO
By Louis L’Amour. Just one of the great westerns. Actually, L’Amour published this first as a short story, A GIFT FROM COCHISE (which is also a great story). Then James Edward Grant made it into the screenplay. And only THEN, L’Amour wrote HONDO.

THE MAN WHO SHOT LIBERTY VALANCE
By D.M. Johnson. Complex story.

THE WAR WAGON
By Clair Huffaker. Same author, done in 1957, but quite different than his own screenplay 10 years later.

WAR PARTY
By James Warner Bellah. Re-wrote it to FORT APACHE. In* the original, it is the Cohill character who really hides the truth about Thursday’s death (who shot himself!)

THE QUIET MAN, by Maurice Walsh
This and other short stories help you make a transition to Ireland once you open the book. It is, of course, quite different from the Frank Nugent screenplay. For example, Sean Thornton’s name is Paddy Bawn Enright in the original story.

TRUE GRIT, by Charles Portis
Move over, Huckleberry Finn – this novel is a classic.

THE COMANCHEROS
By Paul Wellman. A good western.

THE COWBOYS
By William Dale Jennings. This author knows what he’s writing about. A classic novel and a briefing in cowboying.

RIO BRAVO
By Leigh Brackett. Now this could be just a tie-in for which they used Brackett’s name, not an original work by that famed author (who later went on to write STAR WARS).

TIE-INS
Not original books, but written to help advertise the film, were produced for THE ALAMO, HATARI, MCQ, TRAIN ROBBERS, CAHILL, BIG JAKE, CHISUM, MCLINTOCK, TRAIN ROBBERS…

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Just finished two of the books on here. John Wayne-American. It seemed like these two ran out of gas at the end. They spent very little time talking about the films Duke made after True Grit. They suggested that he was on the doward skids and realy didn't make any good films. They suggested that The Shootist was his attempt to get his film career back together. I don't know but I thought The Cowboys and Big Jake were well done films.

Duke We're Glad We Knew You was an excellent book and I enjoyed it very much. Would recommend it over the other.

Colorado Bob
September 27th, 2006, 10:11 PM
Howdy All,
Although I cannot afford to buy all the John Wayne books I want, I can, and do, take full advantage of our library district. They have a ton of books about and relating to John Wayne. Lately, I have been reading books that were later made into John Wayne movies. The last few I have read are:

1. The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance (both the novelization by James Warner Bellah, and the original short story by Dorothy Johnson). The short story is similar to the film, and is actually pretty good. I wish they had left some of the aspects of the story in the film.

2. The Searchers by Alan LeMay. I thought it was interesting that in the novel, Ethan Edwards (Amos Edwards in the book) was actually killed in the novel. I'm glad they didn't keep that in the film!

3. Wake of the Red Witch by Garland Roark. My gosh what a great book! Roark is a little wordy, and all the Dutch terms were a little difficult for me, but all in all none of it detracted from the story, and in fact, I felt added to the overall story. Not that I am a literary critic or anything, I just know what I like, and I would highly recommend these books and stories to everyone.

Currently I am reading The Stars in Their Courses by Harry Brown. So far it is a pretty good read. I noticed that the copy I borrowed from the library is a first edition. Oh were I so lucky to find one of those! Someday I hope to be able to add to my John Wayne library. Currently I have about 10 books. I really like the books that were the basis of his films. Well, I'm rambling, so I'll shut up now.
Best,
Colorado Bob

dukefan1
September 28th, 2006, 08:31 AM
Hello Colorado Bob. I have read The Stars in Their Courses and loved the book. It was the basis for the movie, El Dorado. Funny, though, the movie bore little resemblence to the book. Still a great read. I also loved Wake of the Red Witch. Found it hard to put down.

From one avid reader to another, I happen to have a spare paperback copy of Wake of the Red Witch that I would be more than glad to let you have. I will even throw in a copy of Hondo. Just PM me with your mailing address and I will send them your way if you want them. They are well read copies, but still intact. Let me know if you want them.

Next time you are in the library, look for a copy of The Shepherd of the Hills.
If your tastes are like mine, you will love this book. I have read mine several times. I also loved In Harms Way. I could go on and on, but I'll leave off here. :D

Mark

Hondo Duke Lane
October 1st, 2006, 09:09 AM
Does anyone know if there has been any Duke books released within the last year? I haven't heard of any but I haven't kept a close eye on it either.

Just interested in any new ones out. And no I don't have all his bios or read all of them. Just asking.

Cheers B)

Senta
October 1st, 2006, 01:20 PM
Hi,

I've heard that there is some new book about his early years, it exists at Amazon, but I didn't search it because I haven't read an old ones.
I still have only 4 of them in my collection and 2 about Ford (which are connected with Duke of course) and one Harrey Carey Jr.

Regards,
Senta :rolleyes:

ethanedwards
October 1st, 2006, 02:21 PM
Hi Vera,

On researching my Reviews and 'Pal's
I use not only IMDb and The New York Times,
but also some 15 books, The Big Trail,
and the journals of the John Wayne Film Society.

The book you mention is

The Young Duke: The Early Life of John Wayne
(Hardcover)

by Chis Enss, Howard Kazanjian.

208 Pages

Published with the help of the Wayne Family,
includes unpublished, family photographs,
and personal memories.

Priced at £14.95 plus post and pacakage £3.00
available also from the John Wayne Film Society

Here is their link:-

JWFS (http://www.filmcutts.com/Genres.php?ProductCategoryID=7&objName=John+Wayne+Products)

and here is the Amazon link:-

Amazon Book (http://www.amazon.ca/Young-Duke-Early-Life-Wayne/dp/0762738987)

ethanedwards
October 1st, 2006, 04:49 PM
Hi Mike,

The latest books would appear to be:-

The Young Duke: The Early Life of John Wayne
by Chis Enss, Howard Kazanjian.

The Lost Films Of John Wayne
(The High and the Mighty and Island in the Sky)
by Caroline McGivern


John Ford and the American West
by Peter Cowie

Horizons West: Directing the Western from John Ford to Clint Eastwood
by Jim Kitses.

Rio Bravo: BFI Film Classics
by Robin Hood

John Ford:- The Complete Films
by Scott Eyman

The Searchers: Essays and Reflections on John Ford's Classic Western
by Arthur Eckstien and Peter Lehman

Picture The Quiet Man- An Illustrated Celebration
by Des McHale

Senta
October 1st, 2006, 10:39 PM
Hi Keith,
thank you for information. From your list I already have Scott Eyman book about Ford.

About this book Young Duke I already heard favorable reviews.

But I must read JW American first.

Regards,
Vera :rolleyes:

arthurarnell
December 3rd, 2006, 06:17 AM
Hi

Just received my copy of The Trail Beyond volume VIII. I can't believe that it is eight yeras since the Big Trail completed and The Trail Beyond began. As always Tim Lilley does a memorable job and interestingly reviews the book The young Duke - the early life of John Wayne by HOWARD KAZANJIAN CHRIS ENNS suggesting that the inaccuarcies in the book make it one to avoid at all cost.

In Tim's Trail Beyond there are articles on
The Winds of the Wasteland
An interview with Eddy Donno
An article on Pedro Armandariz
The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance
McLintock
Barbarian & the Geisha
An Article by Leonard Maltin on Republic Shorts

112 pages @ $26 well worth the money.

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Regards

Arthur

ethanedwards
December 3rd, 2006, 11:19 AM
Originally posted by arthurarnell@Dec 3 2006, 12:17 PM
Hi

Just received my copy of The Trail Beyond volume VIII. I can't believe that it is eight yeras since the Big Trail completed and The Trail Beyond began.



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Hi Arthur, I agree with you completely,
and I always thought Tim's The Big Trail
a great series, which sadly, eventually had to come
to an end.

Arthur, you may be interested,
(and I trust, if I know you at all,
that you have everything neatly filed away, ha ha)
that Tim put one of my pieces on the front page of
Volume XV. June 1999
He signed me a personal copy with his thanks.

Senta
December 3rd, 2006, 02:16 PM
Why they coming to the end?
And which one of your pieces was published, Keith?
Regards,
Vera :rolleyes:

ethanedwards
December 3rd, 2006, 06:05 PM
Hi Vera,

I'm sure Arthur will concur,
that the newsletters, were based on one issue,
for a review on each movie.
The end as Tim wanted it, was when
all of them hade been cpovered.

Here is a link, to my piece, he printed,

John Wayne- Was a True Western Hero (http://www.dukewayne.com/showthread.php?t=1376)

Senta
December 3rd, 2006, 10:47 PM
Originally posted by ethanedwards@Dec 4 2006, 03:05 AM
Hi Vera,

I'm sure Arthur will concur,
that the newsletters, were based on one issue,
for a review on each movie.
The end as Tim wanted it, was when
all of them hade been cpovered.

Here is a link, to my piece, he printed,

John Wayne- Was a True Western Hero (http://www.dukewayne.com/showthread.php?t=1921)

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Hi Keith,
Great song, it is a pity that it is impossible to hear it with music.
Regards,
Vera :rolleyes:

DukePilgrim
December 5th, 2006, 10:52 AM
Hi All

A long thread but my two cents would be as follows:-

The first biography that I read on John Wayne was by Dave Grayson and is entertaining & informative.

The books by Pilar and Aissa are also well worth reading giving their perspective.

Pat Stacy's account gives different insights on the last 7 years of Duke's life that contradict other accounts but is agood read

John Wayne American by Randy Roberts would be a definitive read but heavy to hold!!

The most entertaining is Michael Munn's which is from a fan's prospective. I like Michael's writing style from Photoplay days and his previous books. A few items
in the book do take some believing but it is well written in as Ford would say "Print the legend" style.

The one to avoid as mentioned previously in the thread is Garry Wills. The only John Wayne book I have ever disposed off.


Mike

arthurarnell
December 5th, 2006, 12:23 PM
Hi Keith Vera

Keith yes I remember the piece very well. It was very good.

Vera

When Tim finished writing The Big Trail he turned to what must have been a true labour of love writing four 'Campfire' books Campfire Conversations,Campfire Rekindled, Campfire Embers and Campfires Glow. These books were a series of interviews with the cream or even it would be true to say of the royalty of John Wayne's co workers the stunt men and actors who appeared over and over again in his pictures.

With this herculean effort finished and after a very brief rest he issued a yearly annual entitled The Trail Beyond. Keeping up the high standard the books are interesting accurate and to use an American expression insightful.

Tim is freely accepted by many as one of if not the leading expert on John Wayne and his life.

According to Tim's latest book he still has some of the Big Trail editions available, two of the original campfire books Campfire Embers and Campfires Rekindled and all but the first issue of the Trail Beyond available.

If you want to contact him his mail address is bigtrailak@aol.com.



regards

Arthur

DukePilgrim
December 6th, 2006, 07:31 AM
Hi All

Another John Wayne book for your consideration

John Wayne: Prophet of the American Way of Life - Emanuel Levy

John Wayne was one of the most popular and most durable stars in film history. But he was more than an actor or a movie star; he was a national legend, a folk hero, and a powerful symbol of the American Dream. This is a critical examination of John Wayne, the person, the actor, the film star, the political figure, and the mythic legend. It describes Wayne's film work in terms of his life, and his life in terms of movies. The text also views the cultural significance of "the phenomenon of John Wayne" by placing him and his movies in the broader contexts of the film industry and American society at large.The book evaluates Wayne's film oevre by comparing with other major stars of the generation, particularly those with similar screen images, such as Gary Cooper, Henry Ford, and James Stewart.
Details

Author Emanuel Levy
Publisher Scarecrow Press,U.S. (USA)
Year 1988
ISBN 0810835312

DukePilgrim
December 6th, 2006, 07:33 AM
Another new release just out a month

John Wayne: There Rode a Legend (Hardcover)
by Maureen O'Hara (Foreword), Jane Pattie (Author)

Synopsis
Traces the life of the famous actor from his beginning in Winterset, Iowa, his Hollywood film career, his role as a cattle-breeder and rancher, and his political beliefs, to his death in 1979.

Hardcover: 276 pages Publisher: Western Classics (15 Nov 2006) Language English ISBN: 0967053404

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William T Brooks
December 6th, 2006, 07:47 AM
There Rode a Legend by Jane Pattie is a Great Book and was Approved by the Wayne Family. :)

We have Copys here at Duke's Ranch and the Book is one of the Most Popular Books here at Duke's 26 Bar Ranch. It is a Large Coffee Table Book, But it tells You just about everything about the Duke ! :D

Bill :cowboy:

DukePilgrim
December 6th, 2006, 07:53 AM
Hi Bill

What price is There Rode a Legend book from you?

Amazon have it at £55.00 (roughly $100.00). I would rather give you the business
if airmail shipping wasnt to high

Best


Mike

Senta
December 6th, 2006, 10:16 PM
Originally posted by arthurarnell@Dec 5 2006, 09:23 PM
Hi Keith Vera

Keith yes I remember the piece very well. It was very good.

Vera

When Tim finished writing The Big Trail he turned to what must have been a true labour of love writing four 'Campfire' books Campfire Conversations,Campfire Rekindled, Campfire Embers and Campfires Glow. These books were a series of interviews with the cream or even it would be true to say of the royalty of John Wayne's co workers the stunt men and actors who appeared over and over again in his pictures.

With this herculean effort finished and after a very brief rest he* issued a yearly annual entitled The Trail Beyond. Keeping up the high standard the books are interesting accurate and to use an American expression insightful.

Tim is freely accepted by many as one of if not the leading expert on John Wayne and his life.

According to Tim's latest book he still has some of the Big Trail editions available, two of the original campfire books Campfire Embers and Campfires Rekindled and all but the first issue of the Trail Beyond available.

If you want to contact him his mail address is bigtrailak@aol.com.
regards

Arthur

37529

Hi Arthur,
Thank you so much for the information. As soon as possible I shall contact Tim and try to buy some of his books. Right now I'm planning New year trip to Paris with my son and very short on money. But I'm very interested in this books.
Regards,
Vera :rolleyes:

DukePilgrim
December 7th, 2006, 02:41 AM
Hi All

Is this the Japanese John Wayne book talked about earlier in the thread

JOHN WAYNE
This Japanese publication has to be one of the great JW books – even though most of us won’t be able to read it. A hefty book with great, clear, and sometimes rare photographs of his films.
This is mostly about the photographs, so who cares about the reading

Mike

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ejgreen77
December 21st, 2006, 10:15 PM
Has anyone read this (http://www.amazon.com/Lost-Films-John-Wayne/dp/1581825676/sr=8-1/qid=1166760273/ref=sr_1_1/105-1091461-7931646?ie=UTF8&s=books) book? It's called The Lost Films of John Wayne (2006) by Carolyn McGivern.

DukePilgrim
December 22nd, 2006, 01:53 AM
Hi ejgreen77

I have just obtained a copy of The Lost Films of John Wayne (2006) by Carolyn McGivern from Play.com.

Haven't had a chance to read yet so I will come back with opinion.

Mike

DukePilgrim
December 23rd, 2006, 07:15 AM
Hi All

I got my Japanese book today.

It is a A5 book of 222 pages. Quite a few rare publicity photos plus Japanese Text.

Nice little item


Mike

wbbison
January 4th, 2007, 07:35 AM
eigreen77:
I've read this book and I must say that it is excellent. It has the two movies that JW starred in, Island In the Sky and The High And The Mighty. It took about 1 month to arrive but I must say that I couldn't but it done.
wbbison

DukePilgrim
January 6th, 2007, 04:02 PM
Hi wbbison

I have just got this book as well so it is on my required reading list in the near future.


Mike

arthurarnell
January 21st, 2007, 10:07 AM
Hi

When the book came out here it was still doubt if the two films would ever surface, and they could indeed be called lost. Now they have been issued the title is superflous. I bought the Lost Films after reading Carolyn McGiverns first book John Wayne - A Giant Shadow which I think is one of the best books ever written about John Wayne.

The Lost Films I think you could probably read it in a day and is very very lightweight, although it does contain some interesting insights.

But the beauty of this board is you form your own opinions as I have.

Regards

Arthur

DukePilgrim
January 21st, 2007, 11:00 AM
Hi Arthur

I have just bought Island In the Sky and The High And The Mighty both of which I have not seen so I am planning to spend a day reading the book before I watch.


Mike

DukePilgrim
January 22nd, 2007, 03:13 PM
Hello

The John Wayne Filmography (Hardcover) by Fred Landesman has anyone got a copy and what is their opinion.

Thanks


Mike

Senta
January 25th, 2007, 12:47 AM
During my last visit to Helsinki I bought Peter Bogdanovich book about legendary movie stars with whom he had contacts and take interview. The book is interesting in the whole (I like Peter Bogdanovich and his comments) and it contains mighty interesting chapter with the Duke interview.
Regards,
Senta

DukePilgrim
February 12th, 2007, 04:31 PM
Hi Arthur

I read the Lost Films by Carolyn McGivern. In depth discussion of High & Mighty and Island in the Sky plus a good read and interesting insight into Wayne Fellows and Batjac history.


Mike

ZS_Maverick
February 17th, 2007, 10:56 AM
There's a couple of short story collections I've found Duke fans, and Western fans might be interested in: "The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance- The Great Western Stories of Dorothy M. Johnson", which has the original short story as well as "The Hanging Tree" and "A Man Called Horse", and an earlier collection, "BEST OF THE WEST- STORIES THAT INSPIRED CLASSIC WESTERN FILMS", which has "Liberty Valance" and "Mission With No Record"- one of the stories "Rio Grande" was based on. Good reads!

arthurarnell
March 11th, 2007, 11:09 AM
Hi Mike

Just read your question regarding Fred Landesman's book The John Wayne Filmography.
Shortly before hiis untimely death I sent him the following messege that
in my opinion his book could be compared to a pint of ice cold lager sitting on a bar waiting for you after you have completed a twenty mile run.

It is a very expensive book but worth every penny.

Regards

Arthur

Lt. Brannigan
April 12th, 2007, 05:19 PM
I have to agree, The John Wayne Filmography is a masterpiece and it's a book every Duke fan needs. Heck it's the only book you will need pertaining to his films. This book was worth every penny I spent on it, $20.00 and it was worth ten times as much. I was shocked to hear that the author had died, I was hoping that every three years it would be updated and revised.

Kcat
April 20th, 2007, 12:10 AM
Thank you for this great list of Duke books! You've done a great service here for us, and I curtsey to you, Itdo!

Blessings and gratitude,

Kcat

Kcat
April 20th, 2007, 12:33 AM
Hi

An embarrasing incident happened to me a couple of years ago. One Christmas we went to Gravesend for a Charles Dickens Fair (Dickens lived in the area for most of his life and the locals were heavy into his books and costumes etc) and looking through a local second hand bookshop I saw Zolotow's Shooting Star for £2.00. I almost snatched it out of the booksellers hands.

On the way home I couldn't wait to read it and in a blackened coach mine was the only light on. This attracted the attention of the courier as she assumed that I had bought a book dealing with Dickens. When I told her what I was reading she walked back to the speaker system and said:

Ladies and Gentlemen we have spent all day at the home of Charles Dickens and that man is reading a book about John Wayne.

Regards

Arthur

This was laugh-out-loud funny, Arthur! I bet even Dickens himself would approve of your reading choice!

Kcat

Stumpy
April 20th, 2007, 08:40 AM
I'm curious - of all the JW books mentioned on this thread, what are your personal favorites and the ones you consider most informative about our icon?

Speaking for myself, my favorites are "Shooting Star" by Maurice Zolotow (I have a copy autographed by the Duke himself - I know he didn't like the book but I sent him a copy and he autographed it anyway); "John Wayne - American" by Randy Roberts and James Olson; "Duke: The Life and Times of John Wayne" by Donald Shepherd and Robert Slatzer; "There Rode A Legend" by Jane Pattie and the filmography by Allen Eyles.

Lt. Brannigan
April 20th, 2007, 03:26 PM
I'm curious - of all the JW books mentioned on this thread, what are your personal favorites and the ones you consider most informative about our icon?

Speaking for myself, my favorites are "Shooting Star" by Maurice Zolotow (I have a copy autographed by the Duke himself - I know he didn't like the book but I sent him a copy and he autographed it anyway); "John Wayne - American" by Randy Roberts and James Olson; "Duke: The Life and Times of John Wayne" by Donald Shepherd and Robert Slatzer; "There Rode A Legend" by Jane Pattie and the filmography by Allen Eyles.

That's easy

Maurice Zolotow's "Shooting Star"
Fred Landesman's "The John Wayne Filmography"
and
Allan Eyles' : "John Wayne and the Movies"

dukefan1
April 21st, 2007, 08:26 AM
I'm in agreement with you, Stumpy. "John Wayne - American" by Randy Roberts and James Olson is the best biography when it comes to research done. Shooting Star ranks second to me. I also enjoyed Pilar's book John Wayne: My Life With The Duke.

Mark

arthurarnell
April 22nd, 2007, 07:10 AM
Hi

I think I agree with most of your choices John Wayne American is very good as is Duke the Life and times of John Wayne. In its place Fred Landesman's book is superb.

Regards


Arthur

William T Brooks
April 22nd, 2007, 08:16 AM
I have read just about all the Books on Duke, and many of them were done by people that got their Information from some one or heard the story from some one else and very little Info. that they Lived them Self.
:uhoh:


My favorites Books would be by some one that Knew or Lived with the Duke, like Pilar, Duke's Captain of His Boat The Wild Goose Bert Minshall, Maureen O'Hara that had stories about Duke and Ford in Her Book.
:hyper:


My Favorite is Pat Stacy's Book " Duke A Love Story" because She Tells you things about Duke that Most People Would Not Know, because She was His Secretary and Sweetheart for the last 7 Years Of Duke's Life and said that She Loved Him.
:broken_heart:



Chilibill
:cowboy:

Lt. Brannigan
April 22nd, 2007, 10:51 PM
Just received my copy of The Trail Beyond volume VIII. I can't believe that it is eight yeras since the Big Trail completed and The Trail Beyond began. As always Tim Lilley does a memorable job and interestingly reviews the book The young Duke - the early life of John Wayne by HOWARD KAZANJIAN CHRIS ENNS suggesting that the inaccuarcies in the book make it one to avoid at all cost

Stay away from that book, right off i can think of one major mistake that irked me in that book.... they said he made 16 Singin' Sandy Saunders movies.....

Senta
April 23rd, 2007, 12:04 PM
Hi all,
I think my favorite is Shooting Star, I also like memories by Pilar, Pat Stacy and Alissa. But shame on me I haven't read this book JW American which all of you so highly appreciate. But I hope it will happened to me in future. For a pity my present life is very mixed up and I'm travelling much and really have very little time to what is my truly love and best joy.
Regards,
Senta

Senta
April 23rd, 2007, 12:06 PM
Hi

I think I agree with most of your choices John Wayne American is very good as is Duke the Life and times of John Wayne. In its place Fred Landesman's book is superb.

Regards


Arthur

Hi Arthur,
Here Fred Landesman book is available, but it costs about 150$!!
I'm not prepeared yet to pay that much.
Regards,
Senta:uhoh:

Lt. Brannigan
April 23rd, 2007, 01:23 PM
Hi Arthur,
Here Fred Landesman book is available, but it costs about 150$!!
I'm not prepeared yet to pay that much.
Regards,
Senta:uhoh:

Holy moley, BATMAN that's outrageous! Especially when I paid only a little less than 20$ for mine.

Senta
April 23rd, 2007, 04:14 PM
I see this book was mentioned a couple times in this thread... any opinions on it's content?

1850

Hi,
I have it. It was the first book about Duke I have read. But I think that the photos are more valuable there when text itself, but anyway it is interesting.
Regards,
Senta

DakotaSurfer
April 23rd, 2007, 05:57 PM
Hi,
I have it. It was the first book about Duke I have read. But I think that the photos are more valuable there when text itself, but anyway it is interesting.
Regards,
Senta


Sounds great... I just paid $4.70 for a near mint copy of the book. Can't beat that!

ladybug
May 5th, 2007, 01:58 AM
Well, this is kinda irrelevant(?) but I just wanted to say I haven't read any books specifically about him, but my dad's birthday was in January (loves to read and loves JW) went to Booksamillion and wanted to get him some nice coffee table style books... got one about the maps of the bible, one about WW1 and the last one was the 100 most influencial people (can't remember the exact title). When I picked it up, the first person I looked for was JW and, of course, he was there. Bought it. Wrapped it. Dad opened it - and the first person he looked for was JW!!!! I almost cried!

DukePilgrim
May 7th, 2007, 04:04 PM
Nice book shame about the price AH!!!!!


http://www.play.com/Books/Books/4-/1696435/John_Wayne/Product.html


Mike

DakotaSurfer
May 7th, 2007, 11:57 PM
I just picked up a copy of the book: John Wayne: There Rode A Legend

It is a magnificent book. The forward by Maureen O'Hara and the entire book is just full of photos & info about his career and family. It was brand new and still factory wrapped.

Lt. Brannigan
May 8th, 2007, 12:00 AM
http://www.play.com/Books/Books/4-/1...e/Product.html

I actually have that book! got for between 10-15 Us Dollars on Ebay, I do believe that the seller has more of those if you are interested.

John Wayne: There Rode A Legend

I've been considering getting that book, but the price has always kept me away. But now it looks like I am gonna to have to do some serious hunting.

DakotaSurfer
May 8th, 2007, 12:42 AM
You didn't read my post... I said I've already got the book. And btw... your link is bad. And your becoming a stalker... 9 out of the last 10 posts you have to respond to my post.

Lt. Brannigan
May 8th, 2007, 01:10 PM
First, off this stuff

http://www.play.com/Books/Books/4-/1...e/Product.html (http://www.play.com/Books/Books/4-/1...e/Product.html)

I actually have that book! got for between 10-15 Us Dollars on Ebay, I do believe that the seller has more of those if you are interested.is in reply to DukePilgrim

and this stuff is in reply to you.
John Wayne: There Rode A Legend

I've been considering getting that book, but the price has always kept me away. But now it looks like I am gonna to have to do some serious hunting.
I should have posted it differently, but I was half asleep at that time, so I was on my way to bed.

DukePilgrim
May 20th, 2007, 05:16 PM
Hi Brannigan

Did you get the book? Is it worth buying?

Anybody got this book?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=011&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&viewitem=&item=320115078231&rd=1&rd=1 (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=011&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&viewitem=&item=320115078231&rd=1&rd=1)


Mike

Lt. Brannigan
May 20th, 2007, 05:59 PM
I love it. and I would recommend it to anyone that's a Duke fan. As for the latter book that you asked about, I have yet to read that one.

DukePilgrim
May 21st, 2007, 02:24 AM
Got John Wayne: There Rode A Legend from Wayne at Birth Center. Cant wait to see it.

Must investigate the other title


Mike

DakotaSurfer
May 21st, 2007, 10:17 AM
Got John Wayne: There Rode A Legend from Wayne at Birth Center. Cant wait to see it.

Must investigate the other title

Mike

The book originally sold for $75. I got one a few months ago for $45 on eBay, still wrapped and mint condition. It is a very nice book... I keep it in the barrister with my other collectibles.

When I counted I forgot I had two of the one from The Cowboys called "Round-Up". It for sale if anyones interested.

Currently In Possession Two more came in today, so I'm only missing The Green Beret figurine.
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c279/CJane_59/Duke/Figurines/th_FM_Show1.gif (http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c279/CJane_59/Duke/Figurines/FM_Show1.gif) <--- CLICK TO ENLARGE

Only one (The Green Beret) I am searching for!
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c279/CJane_59/Duke/Figurines/FM_Show2.gif

DukePilgrim
May 22nd, 2007, 02:17 AM
Great display Dakota.

When you get Green Berets are you going to start on the plates???

Mike

DakotaSurfer
May 22nd, 2007, 11:03 AM
I just got word there might be a Green Beret figurine available out there. I suspect it will run about $150. I'm in negotiations. As far as the plates... don't think so. There are so many of them by so many different companies and I'm just not into plates. These figurines look so much nicer than something big and round. I took a photo of each figurine in front of a big JW handkerchief backdrop. Plus there are plates for just about anything but not domed figurines.

DukePilgrim
May 22nd, 2007, 11:41 AM
Ive often wondered why they never issued one with John Wayne as Rooster Cogburn.

One on a horse from the confronatation scene in the meadow with Lucky Ned Pepper & gang would have been spectacular.

Mike

DakotaSurfer
May 22nd, 2007, 12:10 PM
Sometimes these subscription pieces from the Franklin Mint all of a sudden stop due to lack of interest. I'm not sure what order they were done in but I'm betting The Green Beret was last since there are so few around and it is the more rare piece of the whole collection. One of Rooster would have been perfect, sitting on a horse, right hand twirling a rifle and with the eye patch. Now that would have been a figurine.

Senta
May 31st, 2007, 10:21 PM
Hi,
At last I bought John Wayne, American and enjoying it greatly. All good words that was said here about the book is absolutly true. May be it is the best Duke biography. Also received A Tribute by Goldstein it happen to be mostly photo tribute, not very ggod printing but nice to see.
Regards,
Vera

chester7777
June 1st, 2007, 10:59 AM
DUKE – THE JOHN WAYNE ALBUM, by Boswell & David
Handsome publication, great print, maybe the nicest of the “tribute” books that came to market in 79, mainly to cash in after JW’s death (I mean, why didn’t they honor him in 1978?)
While visiting my mom in Arizona the past week, the Mrs. was perusing the biography shelves of the library at their mobile home park, and found the above referenced book. It is quite interesting, with many items of trivia and some wonderful pictures. I hadn't seen it before, but after looking at it, decided it was well worth buying. Right now, it's pretty reasonable on Amazon and also on ebay (you could add it to your personal library for less than $10).

I've ordered my own copy!

Chester :newyear:

Senta
June 1st, 2007, 04:06 PM
I picked up a nice group of books at Winterset this weekend...

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c279/CJane_59/Duke/Magazine/th_scan0041.jpg (http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c279/CJane_59/Duke/Magazine/scan0041.jpg).....http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c279/CJane_59/Duke/Magazine/th_scan0042.jpg (http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c279/CJane_59/Duke/Magazine/scan0042.jpg).....http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c279/CJane_59/Duke/Magazine/th_scan0043.jpg (http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c279/CJane_59/Duke/Magazine/scan0043.jpg)
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c279/CJane_59/Duke/Magazine/th_scan0045.jpg (http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c279/CJane_59/Duke/Magazine/scan0045.jpg).....http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c279/CJane_59/Duke/Magazine/th_scan0046.jpg (http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c279/CJane_59/Duke/Magazine/scan0046.jpg).....http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c279/CJane_59/Duke/Magazine/th_scan0047.jpg (http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c279/CJane_59/Duke/Magazine/scan0047.jpg)
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c279/CJane_59/Duke/Magazine/th_scan0048.jpg (http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c279/CJane_59/Duke/Magazine/scan0048.jpg).....http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c279/CJane_59/Duke/Magazine/th_scan0049.jpg (http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c279/CJane_59/Duke/Magazine/scan0049.jpg)

A couple of them were autographed by Crowley the author. I'm looking forward to reading the Harry Carey Jr book.
Hi DakotaSurfer,
Thank you for sending this covers. I have only two of these books - JW American and Company of Heroes. Is the Crowley book a new one? Haven't heard about it before.
Regards,
Senta

DukePilgrim
June 1st, 2007, 05:00 PM
Hi Dakota

Whats Stand up & Be Counted Pilgrim like?


Mike

DakotaSurfer
June 1st, 2007, 05:24 PM
Hi DakotaSurfer,
Thank you for sending this covers. I have only two of these books - JW American and Company of Heroes. Is the Crowley book a new one? Haven't heard about it before.
Regards,
Senta


The first one has a copyright of 1999 and the second one has a copyright of 2002. He was there signing books and these are the two he had there.


Hi Dakota

Whats Stand up & Be Counted Pilgrim like?

Mike

That book is 7" square and has little quotes from Duke. The first quote is his history of learning the Pledge of Allegiance. The whole book is basically about the Pledge. Having to hide his feelings and his pride of being an American. Also a couple pages about the 26 Bar Ranch. It's just a cute little book with John Wayne all through it.

DukePilgrim
June 2nd, 2007, 03:08 AM
Thanks for the information Dakota

Best


Mike

Senta
June 3rd, 2007, 01:03 AM
Hi Dakota,
Thank you for information. From your second group I have a Tribute. Can you write more about John Wayne In the camera eye. I'm thinking about purchasing it at Abebooks - they have pretty cheap copyes.
Regards,
Senta

DukePilgrim
June 3rd, 2007, 03:50 AM
I wonder will there be any reissue of a tribute magazine to John Wayne this year?

There must be at least 6-8 that were brought out in 1979, mind you once you bought one you had them all.


Mike

DakotaSurfer
June 3rd, 2007, 09:57 AM
Hi Dakota,
Thank you for information. From your second group I have a Tribute. Can you write more about John Wayne In the camera eye. I'm thinking about purchasing it at Abebooks - they have pretty cheap copyes.
Regards,
Senta



John Wayne: In The Camera Eye is a 160 page book written by Sam Shaw. The book was a fond farewell book started before but finished after after his death. Mine is a 1st edition copyright 1979. Sam Shaw had a friendship with Duke for many many years and they shared many experiences. Those years and experiences are shared in this book. His forward goes as follows:


When I first began to assemble the photographs of John Wayne for this book, I wasn't conscious of it being a "goodbye" document. But in a way that's what this book is all about.

We had an easy, informal relationship that went back quite a few years. I covered John Wayne for LIFE and LOOK magazines during the filming of "The Alamo" (the first picture "Duke" directed), and the "The Commancheros."

Later, I photographed Wayne at home, in the private world he shared only with his family... and in his loneliness, with his hair down.

Within the confines of his home, of himself, this hard-drinking, chain-smoking symbol of the man of action was as gentle as any lover, father and grandfather: as sensitive to writers, artists and photographers of our recent Western past as any historian or poet.

Much has been said about Wayne's Americanism. To me, he was as American as Jane Fonda; as American as Ring Lardner, Sr. and Jr.; as American as John Ford the director, Wayne's idol and guru; as American as John Ford the Leftist politician, who descended from slaves.

This book is a tribute to the screen artist and the man at peak moments in his career. In it, I've tried to capture through pictures and words the legendary figure, the film giant who typified a particular rowdy Hollywood scene from the 1930's through the 1950's... the Hollywood of the young John Huston, Bogart and Flynn, which is forever past. And I've also tried to catch the real person behind the celluloid image: the film maker behind the scenes; the cowboy out of the saddle, the grand patriarch on his home grounds.

I know this forward sounds a little strange saying Duke is as American as Hanoi Jane but I see it as, we're all Americans and even though we have opposite ideas like Hanoi Jane pulled the stunt she did Duke is just as American because he took a controversial stand during the war but not to stand up for the war but like we all should, to stand up for the men fighting the war good or not. Same message we should have for our current situation. Some of us may not like what's going on but we have to support the troops. As all military men, we follow orders, our Commander-in-Chief sent us to battle to fight an aggressor to the United States. We fight to stay free and to help others get free. The pictures in this book are amazing and really show sides of Duke we many not have seen before.

DukePilgrim
June 3rd, 2007, 12:18 PM
Thanks for the review Dakota

Its sounds an interesting book I must have a search for it.

Mike

Senta
June 3rd, 2007, 03:00 PM
Hi Dakota,
Thank you for the review, it helps me to understand that I'm certainly must have this book.
Regards,
Senta

mhitt
June 7th, 2007, 12:35 PM
I have recently purchased "The John Wayne Filmography" by Fred Landesman (a pricey $75) and I don't recall seeing it on here anywhere. It is very comprehensive but somewhat clinical in it's information on "every" movie made by the Big Guy. It basically relates dates, studio, casts, and plot with some extras like box-office statistics. Not as many pictures as one would probably like and it is printed on yellowing paper making it all look like something from long ago. As I said, it is rather clinical in it's interpretations...not a lot of antecdotes.
I just received "John Wayne-A Western Celebration", which is a very colorful, huge book dealing with the westerns of John Wayne's career. Full color reproductions of old movie posters (some of the posters are more exciting than the original movie was but hey, sensationalism sells!). These book claims to be a limited edition and I ordered it directly from it's web-site. I paid $100 for it plus shipping and I noticed Amazon had it listed for about $130 (but unavailable).
What I'd like to find is a really good biography of John Wayne, the actor and the man. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Senta
June 8th, 2007, 05:17 AM
Hi,
As it was said many times here - one of the best ones is John Wayne: American by randy Roberts and James S.Olson. I'm reading it now and greatly enjoy. I also like Zolotov's book A Shooting Star - very interesting. If you look for pictures you can try Goldstein Tribute or Complete films of Duke.
Regards,
Senta

DakotaSurfer
June 9th, 2007, 10:01 PM
Two more books to add to my list... I just got today. Tom's books is really good, I suggest it as good reading for everyone.

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c279/CJane_59/Duke/th_Campfire_Conversations.jpg (http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c279/CJane_59/Duke/Campfire_Conversations.jpg).....http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c279/CJane_59/Duke/th_Duke_ALoveStory.jpg (http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c279/CJane_59/Duke/Duke_ALoveStory.jpg)

You can see my entire book collection on my forum, just go thru my website. It's just a place for me to show my items without using up a lot of space on here. Plus I'll be adding three more pocket watches shortly when they are received and that completes the entire Franklin Mint domed collection.

Senta
June 10th, 2007, 03:54 AM
Hi Dakota,
Thanks for sharing. Where you bought Tim Lilley book?
Regards,
Senta

DakotaSurfer
June 10th, 2007, 08:56 AM
Hi Dakota,
Thanks for sharing. Where you bought Tim Lilley book?
Regards,
Senta

I got it direct from Tim. We converse via email. If you want I can give him your email address or find out from him where you can buy it.

DukePilgrim
June 10th, 2007, 09:30 AM
Can you send me Tom's email address Dakota

Thanks

Mike

Senta
June 11th, 2007, 05:28 AM
Can you send me Tom's email address Dakota

Thanks

Mike
Me too.
Regards,
Senta

DakotaSurfer
June 11th, 2007, 08:02 AM
I can't really give out Tim's email address but I can give you a pre-celebration order form. Now as long as you remember the special pricing is no longer valid since it's after May 26th. The books are now $30 plus $4.00 s/h for a total of $34.00

Fill out the bottom part of the order form and mail it in to him with your check or money order. No fancy websites or electronic ordering. I've already had a chance to glance through the book and it is pretty damn good.

DukePilgrim
June 11th, 2007, 09:15 AM
Thanks Dakota

Best


Mike:teeth_smile:

DakotaSurfer
June 11th, 2007, 01:24 PM
Just talked to Tim and he said I was off a dollar on the shipping since the special is over. Here is his response:


Since we're past the "Centennial Day" sale, the book now sells for the cover price of $30 (+ 4 s/h). The guys could send a check or money order to Big Trail Publishing, 540 Stanton Ave, Akron, OH, 44301

I know if you asked him to sign it he'd do that as well. Need any more info just ask.

DakotaSurfer
June 21st, 2007, 01:26 AM
I also found out that Tim does another book once a year called "The Trail Beyond" He started it back in 1999 and I bought all the back issues, all except for the 1st issue since that was sold out. The books are over 100 pages and it's an annual publication on the films of John Wayne. All kinds of articles, location pictures and all sorts of goodies. I think all true die hard fans would love to read these books. Here is the cover for the 2006 edition:

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c279/CJane_59/Duke/Collection/th_TTB_V8.jpg (http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c279/CJane_59/Duke/Collection/TTB_V8.jpg)

If your interested I'm sure he'd make you a deal on the back issues as well.

Ethan
July 14th, 2007, 10:10 PM
I want to let you in on a book about John Ford, that refers to Duke ( how could it not) and many of the actors in his films.
The book is titled "PRINT THE LEGEND" The Life and Times of John Ford,,, it is authored by Scott Eyman, and gives some great insight to Fords movies, and it's characters with some absolutely great writing. This is a book that by my own experience was very hard to put down. I kept wanting to read just one more chapter. It is well researched and is probably one of the best books I have ever read. It is truly a treasure. If your library has it I would say check it out, and I would be willing to bet that before you finish half the book, you will have purchased it!!!! Absolutely a Gem!!!!!!!!!!!

Regards
Ethan

DukePilgrim
July 15th, 2007, 02:40 AM
Thanks Ethan

I must check that one out.

Best

Mike

arthurarnell
July 15th, 2007, 03:12 AM
Hi Ethan

Sounds interesting and I must admit that its one I missed. Scott Eyman is quite a goor author I have one of his titled Speed and sound which is quite good.

Regards

Arthur

arthurarnell
July 15th, 2007, 03:22 AM
Hi

I am lucky enough or fortunate enough to have all of Tim Lilleys publications with the exception of the Centenntial edition of Campfires but as I already have the original set of the Campfire Conversations I am not that upset.

The Trail Beyond which followed The Big Trail series is very good and through the site I have introduced various members to these books. With reference to the first edition of The Trail eyond a cautionary word, a couple of years ago ITDO found himself in the same position of being the first edition short and advertised for anyone willing to sell it to him. I think he was offered the volume at ridiculously high prices and if you go through some of the threads you can see his subsequent comments. The volume is out there but be warned so are the vultures.


Regards

Arthur

Tim has also produced an index to The Big Trail which is also a very handy volume to own. If I have a claim to fame I am included in the index squeezed between James Arness and the Army and Navy game

DukePilgrim
July 15th, 2007, 03:32 AM
You can get this book at Amazon for £5.00 upwards.

Amazon.co.uk: Print the Legend: The Life and Times of John Ford: Scott Eyman: Books (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Print-Legend-Life-Times-John/dp/0801865603/ref=sr_1_4/026-5837245-9481237?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1184488114&sr=8-4)

A similar title from this author is also available


http://www.play.com/Books/Books/4-/515715/John-Ford/Product.html


Mike

DakotaSurfer
July 15th, 2007, 10:46 AM
3 more book to add to my list...


http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c279/CJane_59/Duke/th_40thAnniversaryCollectorEdition.jpg (http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c279/CJane_59/Duke/40thAnniversaryCollectorEdition.jpg).....http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c279/CJane_59/Duke/th_JohnWayneMemoryEdition.jpg (http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c279/CJane_59/Duke/JohnWayneMemoryEdition.jpg).....http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c279/CJane_59/Duke/th_LifeandTimeofJW.jpg (http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c279/CJane_59/Duke/LifeandTimeofJW.jpg)

The first one is actually a 40th Anniversary collector's edition that came with the big book you see in the picture, a large and mini-lobby card, a 40th Anniversary VHS copy of the movie and an Exhibitor's Manual. It was all packaged in the long case you see in the photo. A really nice addition. The second book is absolutely huge, the thickest book I have so far full of photos and info on every single movie he made, almost. It is 333 pages, has a 16 page color photo section and has a ton of B&W images. It will take me days to thumb through this book. The last book is very thin but is all images and some pretty good ones.

dukefan1
July 16th, 2007, 02:23 AM
I love that Quiet Man 40th anniversary set. I got one on ebay a few years back. Only paid $10.00 for it (what a steal). I have seen them go for a lot more. Enjoy your books, Dakota. I sure love mine!

Mark

DakotaSurfer
July 16th, 2007, 09:33 PM
Another magazine... I put some info about it in another thread called SuperMag...

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c279/CJane_59/Duke/th_SuperMag.jpg (http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c279/CJane_59/Duke/SuperMag.jpg)

mhitt
July 19th, 2007, 03:10 PM
I just bought "John Wayne: A Western Celebration". It is a really nice collectors book & makes a nice coffee table book (however, I wouldn't let anyone else get they're grubby hands on it!). It is a limited edition and a bit pricey but...

"With text by Jane Pattie, this is another fine book from publisher Wilma Russell’s stable of Western Classics. This limited print run volume is a gorgeous oversized book showcasing the posters from John Wayne’s western films, including rare and colorful vintage posters. Their bold blaze of color and exciting graphics enticed us to the theatres to see The Duke’s latest adventure. Filled with photos, quotes and other tidbits, a synopsis of the film accompanies each poster. Hardcover, 11.25" x 14.25", 224 pages".

mhitt
July 19th, 2007, 03:13 PM
http://www.cowboysindians.com/articles/0707/images/0707-cover.jpg
I bought this issue that has a 100th anniversary tribute to the Duke and I noticed copies are already popping up on Ebay for $25 bucks!

DakotaSurfer
July 20th, 2007, 06:05 PM
I've gotten several new books in the last few days... I don't know where to start.

I forgot to mention in the post about the 40th Anniversary of The Quiet Man special set of goodies. I have one of the numbered sets. They did a re-printing but didn't number them. It was more than 5000... just not sure how many. Mine is numbered and I have No. 5339

The number in on the back of the main sleeve, in the lower right corner, just to the right of the Republic Pictures Home Video logo and copyright info of:

©1991 REPUBLIC PICTURES CORPORATION. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED.

Some other books I have recently added are really nice. One I just got today has numerous photos in it but a couple in particular I really liked...

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c279/CJane_59/Duke/th_CircusWorld.jpg (http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c279/CJane_59/Duke/CircusWorld.jpg).....http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c279/CJane_59/Duke/th_DukeRealStory.jpg (http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c279/CJane_59/Duke/DukeRealStory.jpg).....http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c279/CJane_59/Duke/th_JWTribute.jpg (http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c279/CJane_59/Duke/JWTribute.jpg)

The first one is a huge 32 page movie program. Has some really nice movie shots inside the booklet. It's also large, 9" x 12". It was a souvenir book I suppose passed out or sold at the movies or somewhere. The second book is a small paperback. The one on the right has some really wonderful photos of Duke, his family and others... one photo in particular I am going to print and frame...

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c279/CJane_59/Duke/th_JohnDukeWayne.jpg (http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c279/CJane_59/Duke/JohnDukeWayne.jpg)

Then, a lot of people have asked about an old episode of Laugh-In where he was dressed as a rabbit. this book has a photo of that, not a perfect one but it was funny to see. I highly suggest if you can find this special memorial issue magazine on eBay, get it at any cost. It's a great buy.
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c279/CJane_59/Duke/th_Laugh-In.jpg (http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c279/CJane_59/Duke/Laugh-In.jpg)

dukefan1
July 23rd, 2007, 03:19 AM
Hello Dakota,

That's not a bad deal on the album and the book. The album use to sell for $50 or more befor the advent of ebay and other internet sites. Made it easier to find them, so the price dropped down. I've seen the album go for less then $10. I've seen the book go for more then $10, so along with the other stuff that came with them, I'd say you got a decent deal :thumbs_up:

Mark

Senta
July 25th, 2007, 08:28 AM
Kind of a slow thread here, but I was able to put an image of my current collection... and I have several more on the way that I am picking up for next top nothing. An example is, I picked up an original John Wayne America LP from 1973, still in the factory seal in nearly mint condition. It also came with the book of lyrics, song info and printed sheet music in the book. The set only cost me $10. I'm wondering how many people have this and if anyone knows if it's even worth anything. The album is row 5 column 1 and the book is next to it.

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c279/CJane_59/Duke/Magazine/th_Books-72307.jpg (http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c279/CJane_59/Duke/Magazine/Books-72307.jpg)
Click to enlarge...
Hi Dakota,
Great collection you've got. I have only 8 items from this picture. But there is something to look forward.
Regards,
Senta

DukePilgrim
August 6th, 2007, 04:01 PM
Campside Conversations is available from John Wayne Museum at around £20.00 airmail shipping included. This is brand new updated hard cover edition.

http://www.johnwaynebirthplace.org/books.html

They also have There Rode a Legend at a good price. Excellent Book


Mike

DakotaSurfer
August 6th, 2007, 04:12 PM
I've gotten behind... I bought about another dozen books in the last week or so but since I can't post them in a large block and a single post I lose track. I do know I got this book today but would have to figure out which others are new in the last week.

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c279/CJane_59/Duke/Magazine/th_Duke_Life_and_Image.jpg (http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c279/CJane_59/Duke/Magazine/Duke_Life_and_Image.jpg).....http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c279/CJane_59/Duke/Magazine/th_1971-Oscars.jpg (http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c279/CJane_59/Duke/Magazine/1971-Oscars.jpg).....http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c279/CJane_59/Duke/Magazine/th_1973-RosesParade.jpg (http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c279/CJane_59/Duke/Magazine/1973-RosesParade.jpg)
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c279/CJane_59/Duke/Magazine/th_JohnWayneMyFather.jpg (http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c279/CJane_59/Duke/Magazine/JohnWayneMyFather.jpg).....http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c279/CJane_59/Duke/Magazine/th_JW_Scrapbook.jpg (http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c279/CJane_59/Duke/Magazine/JW_Scrapbook.jpg).....http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c279/CJane_59/Duke/Magazine/th_Stagecoach.jpg (http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c279/CJane_59/Duke/Magazine/Stagecoach.jpg)

DukePilgrim
August 6th, 2007, 04:28 PM
The British Film Institute publish a intersting series of books relating to John Wayne films which provide a real indepth study of a particular movie.


Mike

http://www.bfi.org.uk/booksvideo/books/catalogue/details.php?bookid=124


Red River

http://www.bfi.org.uk/booksvideo/books/catalogue/covers/books/red_river.jpg
Suzanne Liandrat-Guigues
Paperback: £9.99

Buy the paperback online with Central Books (http://www.centralbooks.co.uk/cgi-bin/ss000001.pl?ACTINIC_REFERRER=http://www.centralbooks.co.uk/acatalog/&SS= 0851708196&PR=-1&TB=A)
Red River (1947) is one of Howard Hawks' near-perfect films. A sweeping, fast-moving Western, it's stunningly shot and stars John Wayne and Montgomery Clift in complex roles set off by typically fine ensemble acting. In her study Suzanne Liandrat-Guigues explores the thematic complexity of Red River as well as its historical resonances and its place in film history. She focuses particular attention on the actors' contributions and on Red River's relationship to other Hawks classics.


Searchers, The

http://www.bfi.org.uk/booksvideo/books/catalogue/covers/books/searchers.jpg
Edward Buscombe
"a lucid, jargon-free and incisive volume ... a bravura display of critical intelligence" The Glasgow Herald
Paperback: £9.99

Buy the paperback online with Central Books (http://www.centralbooks.co.uk/cgi-bin/ss000001.pl?ACTINIC_REFERRER=http://www.centralbooks.co.uk/acatalog/&SS=085170820X&PR=-1&TB=A)
Read sample text (http://www.bfi.org.uk/booksvideo/books/catalogue/text.php?bookid=256)
John Ford's masterpiece The Searchers (1956) was rated fifth greatest film of all time in Sight and Sound's most recent poll of critics. Its influence on many of America's most distinguished contemporary film-makers - among them Martin Scorsese, Paul Schrader and John Milius - is enormous.

Edward Buscombe provides a detailed commentary on all aspects of the film, and makes full use of material in the John Ford archive in Indiana, including Ford's own memos and the original script, which differs in vital respects from the film he made.

Edward Buscombe is Visiting Professor at Southampton Institute and editor of The BFI Companion to the Western.
96 pages, Illustrated
Published November 2000
Paperback ISBN: 085170820X

Stagecoach

http://www.bfi.org.uk/booksvideo/books/catalogue/covers/books/stagecoach.jpg Edward Buscombe
Paperback: £9.99

Buy the paperback online with Central Books (http://www.centralbooks.co.uk/cgi-bin/ss000001.pl?ACTINIC_REFERRER=http://www.centralbooks.co.uk/acatalog/&SS=0851702996&PR=-1&TB=A)
Read sample text (http://www.bfi.org.uk/booksvideo/books/catalogue/text.php?bookid=124)
More than fifty years after its first appearance Stagecoach remains the most famous Western ever made. Resisting David O. Selznick's description of his project as 'just another Western', director John Ford intended something special from the start: a film which would integrate all the traditions of the horse opera - chases, gunfights, spectacular scenery - with a tale of romance and intrigue appealing to a sophisticated audience of both sexes.

To give the film class, Ford employed Dudley Nichols, writer of his previous prestige successes The Informer and Mary of Scotland as well as such comedy classics as Bringing Up Baby. In the casting, Ford was adept at blending established actors like Thomas Mitchell - who won an Academy Award for his performance - with veteran Hollywood saddle tramps. And as the Ringo Kid he chose an unknown who had spent the past ten years languishing in the obscurity of B-Westerns. The part made John Wayne a star.




Shedding new light on an old favourite, this is an enjoyable account of how the film got made, combined with a careful scene-by-scene analysis, a wealth of illustrations and the most complete credits yet assembled.
96 pages, Illustrated
Published April 1992
Paperback ISBN: 0851702996

DukePilgrim
August 6th, 2007, 04:30 PM
Another of the BFI Titles


Mike


Rio Bravo

http://www.bfi.org.uk/booksvideo/books/catalogue/covers/books/rio_bravo.jpg
Robin Wood
"this is a volume rich in insight" Kamera
Paperback: £9.99

Buy the paperback online with Central Books (http://www.centralbooks.co.uk/cgi-bin/ss000001.pl?ACTINIC_REFERRER=http://www.centralbooks.co.uk/acatalog/&SS=0851709664&PR=-1&TB=A)
After his brother is jailed, a land baron and his small army of hired killers threaten to overrun a town in Rio Bravo, Howard Hawks's superb Western from 1958. The only resistance comes from a ragbag group centred around Sheriff Chance (John Wayne): a washed-up deputy (Dean Martin), an itinerant gambler (Angie Dickinson), an ageing dispossessed farmer (Walter Brennan) and a fresh-faced gun for hire (Ricky Nelson). Together they make a stand. Rio Bravo forms a loose trilogy with Only Angels Have Wings (1939) and To Have and Have Not (1944), which treats key Hawks themes of self-respect and friendship with exquisite subtlety, comedy and tenderness.Rio Bravo, however, is the definitive rendition of these themes.




For Robin Wood, it may be the greatest American film, the epitome of the collaborative art of the studio system, characterised by marvellous performances from Hollywood legends and relative newcomers alike; and by Hawks's complete understanding of classical film-making techniques. Most importantly, Rio Bravo speaks to enduring human questions, finding value in life even when observing its hardship. 'Rio Bravo remains,' Wood writes, 'beyond politics, as an argument as to why we should all want to go on living and fighting.'
96 pages, Illustrated
Published September 2003
Paperback ISBN: 0851709664

Senta
August 6th, 2007, 05:41 PM
I've gotten behind... I bought about another dozen books in the last week or so but since I can't post them in a large block and a single post I lose track. I do know I got this book today but would have to figure out which others are new in the last week.

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c279/CJane_59/Duke/Magazine/th_Duke_Life_and_Image.jpg (http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c279/CJane_59/Duke/Magazine/Duke_Life_and_Image.jpg).....http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c279/CJane_59/Duke/Magazine/th_1971-Oscars.jpg (http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c279/CJane_59/Duke/Magazine/1971-Oscars.jpg).....http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c279/CJane_59/Duke/Magazine/th_1973-RosesParade.jpg (http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c279/CJane_59/Duke/Magazine/1973-RosesParade.jpg)
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c279/CJane_59/Duke/Magazine/th_JohnWayneMyFather.jpg (http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c279/CJane_59/Duke/Magazine/JohnWayneMyFather.jpg).....http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c279/CJane_59/Duke/Magazine/th_JW_Scrapbook.jpg (http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c279/CJane_59/Duke/Magazine/JW_Scrapbook.jpg).....http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c279/CJane_59/Duke/Magazine/th_Stagecoach.jpg (http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c279/CJane_59/Duke/Magazine/Stagecoach.jpg)
Hi Dakota,
How you read them so fast. Or you decide collect them first. From these I\ve read only Alissa's book. Have the same edition.
Regards,
Senta

DakotaSurfer
August 6th, 2007, 06:05 PM
Campside Conversations is available from John Wayne Museum at around £20.00 airmail shipping included. This is brand new updated hard cover edition.

http://www.johnwaynebirthplace.org/books.html

They also have There Rode a Legend at a good price. Excellent Book


Mike

If you buy it directly from Tim Lilley himself he'll autograph it for you. Just remember after celebration price is $30 for the book and $5.00 for shipping. Plus he autographs it for you. Big plus in my book. Tim is a great guy, I also get his yearly book he puts out called The Trail Beyond. I have all but the first issue, it's a yearly book.

Tim Lilley Order Form (http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c279/CJane_59/Duke/Tim_Lilley_Form.jpg)

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c279/CJane_59/Duke/Magazine/th_TTB-2000.jpg (http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c279/CJane_59/Duke/Magazine/TTB-2000.jpg).....http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c279/CJane_59/Duke/Magazine/th_TTB-2001.jpg (http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c279/CJane_59/Duke/Magazine/TTB-2001.jpg).....http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c279/CJane_59/Duke/Magazine/th_TTB-2002.jpg (http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c279/CJane_59/Duke/Magazine/TTB-2002.jpg).....http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c279/CJane_59/Duke/Magazine/th_TTB-2003.jpg (http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c279/CJane_59/Duke/Magazine/TTB-2003.jpg)
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c279/CJane_59/Duke/Magazine/th_TTB-2004.jpg (http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c279/CJane_59/Duke/Magazine/TTB-2004.jpg).....http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c279/CJane_59/Duke/Magazine/th_TTB-2005.jpg (http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c279/CJane_59/Duke/Magazine/TTB-2005.jpg).....http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c279/CJane_59/Duke/Magazine/th_TTB-2006.jpg (http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c279/CJane_59/Duke/Magazine/TTB-2006.jpg)

I buy all the books I can and then read them as I can. I got the Oscar book for $5 and the Roses Parade book for $2. I bought an old magazine with Duke in it on eBay for $.01 yesterday. I also found an excellent book last night on eBay for $6, never seen it before.

http://i6.ebayimg.com/04/i/000/ac/f1/6217_2.JPG

DukePilgrim
August 7th, 2007, 04:30 AM
If you buy it directly from Tim Lilley himself he'll autograph it for you. Just remember after celebration price is $30 for the book and $5.00 for shipping. Plus he autographs it for you. Big plus in my book. Tim is a great guy, I also get his yearly book he puts out called The Trail Beyond. I have all but the first issue, it's a yearly book.

Tim Lilley Order Form (http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c279/CJane_59/Duke/Tim_Lilley_Form.jpg)

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I buy all the books I can and then read them as I can. I got the Oscar book for $5 and the Roses Parade book for $2. I bought an old magazine with Duke in it on eBay for $.01 yesterday. I also found an excellent book last night on eBay for $6, never seen it before.

http://i6.ebayimg.com/04/i/000/ac/f1/6217_2.JPG

An autographed copy would be nice but it was less hazzle and easier to get through Birthplace and shipping was much lighter .

Mike

Senta
August 7th, 2007, 05:17 AM
Hi,
When I was in Paris this summer I picked up a very nice small book in French about Duke. It is small - little more then 60 pages, but contains many nice photos, mainly from the movies. The autor is Philippe J.-P. Ferrari. I myself unfortunatly don't know French, but enjoyed photos.
Wanted to add cover, but can't do it - don't know why.
Regards,
Senta

DakotaSurfer
August 7th, 2007, 07:21 AM
An autographed copy would be nice but it was less hazzle and easier to get through Birthplace and shipping was much lighter .

Mike

It was just a suggestion for those who want an autographed copy. The book price is the same and shipping from the Birthplace is $9.50 while shipping from Tim is cheaper. No hassle at all, I sent Tim a check and he sent me the book. Just an option since I get as many as I can autographed.

DukePilgrim
August 7th, 2007, 09:38 AM
Quote I got from Tim was $20.00 for airmail plus I would have the hazzle of getting a dollar check or money order which would also add to the cost.

To be honest whilst I would have liked to have bought from Tim it was not viable option for anyone outside USA.


Mike

DakotaSurfer
August 7th, 2007, 09:48 AM
Quote I got from Tim was $20.00 for airmail plus I would have the hazzle of getting a dollar check or money order which would also add to the cost.

To be honest whilst I would have liked to have bought from Tim it was not viable option for anyone outside USA.

Mike

That's a little steep... I haven't talked to him in awhile, but that sounds awful high. Definitely not what I paid. Wait a minute... now I see why. You not in the US. No wonder it's so high. I guess I don't pay attention to where people are at. With the weight of the book being 2 lbs. then $20 is very reasonable.

Members in the US could definitely get them from Tim and get a decent shipping price.

William T Brooks
August 7th, 2007, 10:17 AM
I have been Shipping the John Wayne 26 Bar Ranch Scrapbook to Most Parts of the World and when you Ship Out Side of the U.S. it is Not Cheap !
:stunned:


The Scrapbook Weight is Over 3 Lbs. and Cost for Shipping was $21.70 to the British Isles, $27.35 to Russia and $8.00 to $10.00 in the U.S.A.
:ohmy:


Bill
:cowboy:

DakotaSurfer
August 7th, 2007, 10:32 AM
I have been shipping programs all over the world so I was aware I just didn't know he was overseas. The programs usually cost me under $7 to ship them across the pond.

DukePilgrim
August 7th, 2007, 10:59 AM
If it weighs 2lbs then $20.00 would be about right. The added cost of dollar checks would be the killer.

If Tim took visa or paypal then his books would be a more realistic to buy for overseas buyers.

I got There Rode a Legend from Birthplace and was more than pleased with their shipping price. I knew it was a heavy book so I was hesitating buying because of the cost.


Mike

DakotaSurfer
August 7th, 2007, 11:19 AM
I'm not sure why he doesn't accept that either... it would make it easier but it might be a hassle for him. That other book he puts out every year is over 100 pages so that's not something you can just throw together, he probably spends all year just to release the next volume. The next one comes out in November. Plus any book signings he has to go to. He was at Winterset for a day on Duke's birthday.

I bought There Rode A Legend while I was in Winterset so I saved on postage there along with a couple other books by Roger Crowley.

DakotaSurfer
August 8th, 2007, 01:46 PM
I'm not sure why he doesn't accept that either... it would make it easier but it might be a hassle for him. That other book he puts out every year is over 100 pages so that's not something you can just throw together, he probably spends all year just to release the next volume. The next one comes out in November. Plus any book signings he has to go to. He was at Winterset for a day on Duke's birthday.

I bought There Rode A Legend while I was in Winterset so I saved on postage there along with a couple other books by Roger Crowley.

I've also found some other books that look interesting and one is actually brand new and doesn't come out until October 2007. It looks like a good one...

It's $12 pre-order, only 128 pages, it's called and written by:
"The Quotable John Wayne: The Grit and Wisdom of an American Icon" by John Wayne, Carol Lea Mueller.
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chester7777
August 9th, 2007, 02:11 AM
We heartily agree in your choice of Fred Landesman's book. It is an invaluable resource for the John Wayne fan.

Chester :newyear:

arthurarnell
August 11th, 2007, 01:49 AM
Hi

I have bought all of the Big Trail, the Campfire books and all of Tims Trail Beyond books. I send cash and to date, touch wood, have had no problems. If you take advantage of his early ordering system you save money.

Postage works out about seven dollars about £3.50 in real money and I consider that to be quite reasonable.

If I have one small and it is a small grouse it is the length of time that it takes to arrive. I normally get my copy around mid January. he latest it ever took was early February one year. The best part of course is that it is worth waiting for.

Regards.

Arthur

arthurarnell
August 11th, 2007, 01:54 AM
Hi

The Best Western books are very good and contain a lot of information about Duke and many other veteran actors. it comes outannually around about Christmas.

Regards

Arthur

DakotaSurfer
August 11th, 2007, 02:12 AM
Postage works out about seven dollars about £3.50 in real money and I consider that to be quite reasonable.

Regards.

Arthur

Real money... when I first visited Europe it all looked like Monopoly money. If yours is real money why is ours always copied and the market always runs on how the might dollar is doing? Especially now that we're going to back to dollar coinage. I remember my first 10,000 Lire and though it was funny money as big as it was.

I have a 1990 £5 pound note in my hands and the silver strip is visible and looks like it's falling out.

:hyper:

I have most of Tim's books too. They are a great read. Worth every penny and not by the pound. :)

DukePilgrim
August 11th, 2007, 04:12 AM
I think everyone thinks real money is whatever they use in their country. My gripe with US dollars was why the hell do all the denominations have to look the same.

chester7777
August 11th, 2007, 10:49 AM
Realizing this continues to be off the topic of the thread, but along with the current conversation about money . . . if we truly realized the value of the paper we call money, we would be sadly disillusioned, as it is all built on faith and a cataclysmic event may cause one to lose that faith.

Chester :newyear:

DakotaSurfer
August 11th, 2007, 04:56 PM
I think everyone thinks real money is whatever they use in their country. My gripe with US dollars was why the hell do all the denominations have to look the same.

They don't look the same anymore... the $100's, $50's, $20 & $10's have all been colorized. Different security features have been added to the bills. And I;d rather have them the same size instead of having like a huge 10,000 Lire note and a skimpy 500 Lire note. Different sizes were a pain when I lived in Europe

DukePilgrim
August 13th, 2007, 03:25 PM
TCM Screenplay of The Searchers issued in 2002

http://www.dukewayne.com/imagehosting/thum_59646c0be44eaf08.jpg (http://www.dukewayne.com/vbimghost.php?do=displayimg&imgid=521)


Mike

DukePilgrim
August 14th, 2007, 02:53 PM
Nice promo book of The Alamo

http://www.dukewayne.com/imagehosting/thum_59646c208369f5da.jpg (http://www.dukewayne.com/vbimghost.php?do=displayimg&imgid=522)


Mike

DukePilgrim
August 14th, 2007, 05:28 PM
Herb Fagan's book is a good read. you should enjoy it.

Mike

DukePilgrim
August 16th, 2007, 01:35 PM
Received hardback version of Campfire Conversations today from John Wayne Birthplace. Superb service as always. Great Book for fans and lovely addition to my collection!!


Mike

http://www.dukewayne.com/imagehosting/59646c498d84338d.jpg (http://www.dukewayne.com/vbimghost.php?do=displayimg&imgid=523)

BILL OF PA
August 16th, 2007, 02:40 PM
have many books on the duke. but my newest one is THERE RODE A LEGEND a birthday gift. given to me on my way out to WINTERSET.:thumbs_up:

mhitt
August 16th, 2007, 05:31 PM
Just finished Michael Munn's "John Wayne:The Man Behind The Myth". Not a very big book but packed with a lot of info and interesting antecdotes. No pictures but a good balance of the Duke, his life, loves, demons and films.

DukePilgrim
August 18th, 2007, 05:45 PM
Hi mhitt

Michael's book is entertaining although some of the stories there are a little far fetched.

Another book for fan which requires no reading is attached. Japanese release which is 200 pages of photos lots of rare publicity shots.

Mike

http://www.dukewayne.com/imagehosting/thum_59646c802841cbed.jpg (http://www.dukewayne.com/vbimghost.php?do=displayimg&imgid=528)

William T Brooks
August 18th, 2007, 08:28 PM
I think You Guys are Spinning You Wheels on all of these Books, If you want to Know about Duke, in His Last 7 Years of His Life, Read Pat Stacy's Book "Duke a Love Story" and Find Out What Duke Was Like at the End of His Life,, and that was the Way It Was !!!
:ohwell:


Chilibill
:cowboy:

DukePilgrim
August 19th, 2007, 01:44 PM
Hi Bill

I agree Pat's book on John Wayne's later years is excellent.

I would also recommend Pilar and Aissa books.

Considering that they are written by Wife Girlfriend and Daughter and they all have nice things to say about him as a Man he must have been doing something right!!!

For first time readers on John Wayne they could not do better than to start with
Donald Shepherd book

http://www.play.com/Books/Books/4-/260814/Duke/Product.html

For more detailed information on John Wayne Randy Roberts book is the most comprehensive

http://www.play.com/Books/Books/4-/325236/John-Wayne/Product.html

Other books provide new insights or angles but cover the main territory.

The only one I would avoid is Gary Wills

http://www.play.com/Books/Books/4-/325235/John-Wayne/Product.html Like watching paint dry!!!


Mike

DukePilgrim
August 19th, 2007, 01:46 PM
New book on making The Alamo

http://www.cinemaretro.com/index.php?/archives/236-MAJOR-NEW-BOOK-ON-JOHN-WAYNES-THE-ALAMO.html


Mike

William T Brooks
August 20th, 2007, 08:00 PM
I have a Old Book Called "The Film Of John Wayne" But the Last Film they have in the Book is "Rio Lobo !"
:ohmy:
The Book is By Mark Ricci, Boris Zmijewsky and Steve Zmijewsky. Does any One know anything about this Book and the People that Wrote it ?
:yeaahh:


Chilibil
:cowboy:

DukePilgrim
August 21st, 2007, 03:12 PM
Hi Bill

I think this is an earlier version of this book

Amazon.co.uk: The Complete Films of John Wayne (Film Library): Steven Zmijewsky: Books (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Complete-Films-John-Wayne-Library/dp/0806509457/ref=sr_1_11/026-0400985-3278038?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1187726677&sr=1-11)


Best


Mike

William T Brooks
August 21st, 2007, 03:49 PM
Mike, Thanks a Bunch . This Book had me Stumped because the Last film in the Book was Done in 1970 ?

Bill
:cowboy:

Senta
August 21st, 2007, 03:52 PM
Hi Mike and Bill,
I have this book with the same cover and it is complete. The last movie in it is Shootist.
Regards,
Vera

DukePilgrim
August 21st, 2007, 05:34 PM
Hi Bill & Senta

I have a 1983 Edition of this book. It was first issued in 1970 which explains why Bill's version ends with Rio Lobo.

Mike

William T Brooks
August 21st, 2007, 06:33 PM
Mike, Thanks For the Info. Is this Newer Book Still Available or is it out of Print ?
Bill
:cowboy:

Kevin
August 21st, 2007, 08:43 PM
Hey Guys, I'm slowly putting together a wiki (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wiki) to store Duke related information. You can find this info at http://www.dukewayne.com/wiki/index.php/John_Wayne_Books

If anyone would like to help out in anyway then let me know. There is alot of very useful information in the forum that I feel needs to be pulled out and placed in an area the is less crowded, so that's why I've installed the DukeWiki.

Senta
August 22nd, 2007, 01:43 AM
Hi Kevin,
I think to the books relaited to Duke, must be added
Peter Bogdanovich
WHO THE HELL'S IN IT Conversations with Holliwood's Legendary Actors.
The book has very good chapter about Duke.
Regards,
Vera:russia:

Kevin
August 22nd, 2007, 05:22 PM
Hi Kevin,
I think to the books relaited to Duke, must be added
Peter Bogdanovich
WHO THE HELL'S IN IT Conversations with Holliwood's Legendary Actors.
The book has very good chapter about Duke.
Regards,
Vera:russia:

Thanks Vera!! I have added it to the Wiki.

mhitt
August 24th, 2007, 03:09 PM
Hi mhitt

Michael's book is entertaining although some of the stories there are a little far fetched.

Another book for fan which requires no reading is attached. Japanese release which is 200 pages of photos lots of rare publicity shots.

Mike

http://www.dukewayne.com/imagehosting/thum_59646c802841cbed.jpg (http://www.dukewayne.com/vbimghost.php?do=displayimg&imgid=528)
Just curious about what you found farfetched? I kinda felt the assasination stories were a little suspect.

mhitt

DukePilgrim
August 24th, 2007, 03:28 PM
Yes, the assassination story would be one of the main areas of unbelief. As previously mentioned in other posts the story comes from nowhere else and nobody else has publicly remarked about it.

The other main problem is that people who seem to have known about it are all dead e.g. Orson Welles, Yakima Cannut and of course John Wayne so attempting to prove its authenticity may be difficult.

Munn seems to have a lot of contacts in the film industry and most of his stories are
gossip and rumour.

He has recently completed a book on Olivier.


Mike

William T Brooks
August 24th, 2007, 05:32 PM
Mike,
What Assassination Story are you talking about ?
:ohmy:
Bill
:cowboy:

DukePilgrim
August 25th, 2007, 02:41 AM
Here you go Bill

Here's a synopis of what is claimed in Munn's book

LONDON, July 31 (Reuters) - Soviet dictator Joseph Stalin was so outraged at the anti-communism of film star John Wayne that he plotted to have him murdered, according to a new biography of the American icon.
"John Wayne - The man behind the myth" by British writer and actor Michael Munn says there were several attempts in the late 1940s and early 1950s to kill the man known to audiences around the world as "Duke."

In the first attempt, two Russian assassins posing as FBI agents tried to kill Wayne -- born Marion Morrison on May 26, 1907 -- in his office at Warner Brothers studios in Hollywood.

But the plot was uncovered and the would-be killers captured, the book says, citing several sources including director Orson Welles.

The book says the Soviet plots were cancelled after Stalin's death in 1953, by his successor Nikita Krushchev, who was a fan of the larger-than-life star of more than 100 films.

"That was a decision of Stalin during his last five mad years. When Stalin died I rescinded that order," the book quotes Krushchev as telling Wayne during a private meeting in 1958.

But it says American communist groups took up the cudgels against Wayne who was a supporter of the anti-communist witch-hunt led by Senator Joseph McCarthy, citing an attempt in Mexico on the set of the film "Hondo."
Wayne survived these attempts and another by a sniper during a trip to visit American troops in Vietnam in 1966. He eventually died of cancer in 1979.

William T Brooks
August 25th, 2007, 07:27 AM
Mike,
In 1970 at the Cattle sales at the 26 Bar Ranch after Duke had become a Mason in Tucson, I was told this Story by Sen. Barry Goldwater, that had been a Friend of my family for many years, long before He become Sen. Goldwater from Arizona.
:ohmy:
Sen. Goldwater was one of Duke's Best Friends, and said that He tried to get Duke to except Protection from the U.S. Govenment but Duke said No He would take care of it Himself !!!
:angry:
http://www.ranch26bar.com/STALIN1.html
Chilibill
:cowboy:

DukePilgrim
August 25th, 2007, 11:13 AM
Hi Bill

So do you reckon it is true. The way Munn tells it the story sound like a Hollywood movie.
It is also at the start of his book so it is like WHAT!!!

Im surprised that the story was not picked up before or since in the many other books on Duke.

Mike

William T Brooks
August 25th, 2007, 11:58 AM
Mike, We have no way of knowing anything more about it, as all the People that had anything to Do With It are Long Gone ! I do have a Friend that is a F.B.I. Agent, and I am going to see if He can tell me anymore about it ?
Bill
:cowboy:

DukePilgrim
August 25th, 2007, 01:22 PM
Great Bill. If you get an update do advise.

You would think that some declassified documents from that era would shed some light on the matter.

Mike

William T Brooks
August 25th, 2007, 03:22 PM
Mike, If you go over to Duke Stories I have put up the First Few Pages of 53 Pages of the Declassified F.B.I Files on John Wayne and Some of the other Hollywood Stars of that time !
Bill
:cowboy:

DukePilgrim
August 27th, 2007, 05:19 AM
Thanks Bill

I will take a look

Best

Mike

smokey
August 31st, 2007, 07:06 AM
hi all

i dont know if this is the right place for this but downunder they have released a 46 issue collection on john wayne it is called "the classic JOHN WAYNE collection" it comes with a booklet and a DVD. the booklet talks about the dvd, the making of the movie, has a star profile on one of the actors in the movie and a section called the hollywood machine- this section is where directors talk about how the movie influenced their moving making skills.

i got the first issue today and its on the searchers, only 45 more to go

cheers smokey

BILL OF PA
August 31st, 2007, 08:20 AM
ALAMO VILLAGE. BY JOHN FARKIS.
about the building of dukes alamo.a lot of great pictures.:thumbs_up:

arthurarnell
September 6th, 2007, 12:56 AM
Hi

I've just received issue no 25 of the John Wayne Film Society Journal Special Centennial Issue. I haven't read it yet but it looks pretty good.



Regards

Arthur

ejgreen77
September 25th, 2007, 06:00 PM
Check out this:

http://books.google.com/books?id=sIXDNotbvywC&printsec=frontcover

Senta
September 26th, 2007, 02:13 PM
Check out this:

http://books.google.com/books?id=sIXDNotbvywC&printsec=frontcover

Hi,
I have read this recently. It is a great book of course and pretty accurate in details. But for me it was hard to go through all political issues and wide picture of US history in which I nearly drawn. So for a pity (don't think I'm a complete fool) I like Shooting Star more as well as memories about Duke (Pat Stasy, Aissa's, Pilar's). But I'm hope to return to this book someday.
Regards,
Vera

DukePilgrim
September 26th, 2007, 02:37 PM
Hi Vera

It is a comprehensive book to read but is full of little bits of information not seen before.

Hope to re-read in the near future

Mike

DukePilgrim
September 27th, 2007, 02:41 PM
Harry Carey's Company of Heroes is a great read. Highly Recommended!

Amazon.co.uk: Company of Heroes: My Life as an Actor in the John Ford Stock Company (Scarecrow Filmmakers): Harry Carey: Books (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Company-Heroes-Actor-Scarecrow-Filmmakers/dp/1568330685/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/026-0400985-3278038?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1190922049&sr=8-1)


Mike