HI GANG I KNOW THERES BEEN A LOT OF CORNCERN FOR MISSING MEMBERS SUCH AS MONIQUE,REASR,LIBERTYV,AMY AND OTHERS HAS ANY ONE FOUND OUT ANYTHING ABOUT THESE AS I KNOW THERE IS A LOT OF US WHO ARE CONCERNED. I MYSELF WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF THERE IS BEEN ANYTHING DONE TO FIND OUT WHATS HAPPENED TO THESE FELLOW JOHN WAYNE FANS!THEY ARE PART OF THIS FAMILY AND I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF THERE OK.
THANKS GUYS AND GALS
CHANCE :stunned:

Hi Chance,
I'm here. I'm not sure about the others. Summer went by so fast and now my kids are back in school so I'm trying to get a lot of things done. Hopefully I can get back on the computer in the evenings like I am right now.
Little Duke

Hi Littleduke
first of all it's nice to see you back. i hope to see you around i'm glad your ok and the kids.Hope to talk to you in the chat room soon.
NICE! to see you!
Chance :stunned:

Chance

Brilliant post I would just like to echo what you said maybe Kevin, Chester or Mike know something.

:agent:

Hey there guys,

Thank you for your concens. I am concern for them as well, but they are free to come and go as they please. I for one have e-mail some of the ones you mentioned just to say that they were missed, and love to see them back. You can also e-mail them yourselves by pointing on their name (user name), and click the e-mail to send them a personal message. They would appreciate it very much, and they might come back and get involved again. :cowboy:

As LittleDuke conveyed, its been busy and haven't been able to come back and participate much lately, and that may be so for the others. I can't answer for them, but hopefully as the winter (cold) season in the Northern Hemisphere is approaching, they might find more time to come and get caught up with the board, but do know this that they might not come back. That would be a shame, but sometimes that happens. :(

Anyway, do all of us a favor and e-mail them and invite them to come back in. Sometimes that's all it takes to get them back. :headbonk:

Have a great day,

Cheers, Hondo B)

I've just sent an email to Monique and Rick(reasr) and both were returned
i've also sent one to Libertyv and Amy.Just got to wait now.
Chance :stunned:

Hi all I'm curious more than anything, anyone know anything about AEC23, Baron, Reasr and Monique.

:agent:

well i've seen REASR recently on the boards robbie but not sure about the others
what about libertyv too. :stunned:
reasr has recently been in the chatroom i've talk to him.

Well, here's an interesting thing for you to try.

I was wondering what had happened to baron von Rasillon, so checked out his profile to see if there might be any information that would help me to "track him down" short of emailing him, since I have a vague recollection that he mentioned that he might be offline for awhile. His web site didn't give me much, so for fun I typed in his user name on a Google search.

The first two hits were from posts on this board, and under the second one was a link that said "More results from www.dukewayne.com" and all this took 0.05 seconds!

Then I decided to put in my own user name, and had a similar result, so I clicked on the link, "More results . . . " and there were 17 pages of links to my posts, old and new. That took a mere 0.07 seconds, and it came up with 248 results. It's kind of eerie to think we're immortalized this way.

Anyway, just thought you'd like to know. Some names end up being too general, but the more unique ones will pop up with the John Wayne Message Board.

Chester :newyear:

Yea its good to see Reasr and General Sterling Price back again.

If I remember correctly AEC23 and Monique have web sites dedicated to the Duke if someone knows the address they could leave a message on the messageboard for them.

:agent:

I'm sorry to say that Monique will not ever be back again. She was the same person as BrianB, who passed away last summer. We checked into this after the death of Brian and this was the same person. We didn't know that Monique and Brian were the same person.

I should have told you but I guess we were hoping that it would die out. I just wanted to let you and the rest of the board know this.

Cheers, Hondo B)

By the way, Monique's picture and web site were shut down by AOL, and I omitted the features because they were blank. I did this back in October 2003 after I tried to activated the site and picture. I was making the site attainable for all to read.

I didn't know that some of you were upset by the deletion of the picture, and site. There was nothing there, and I only cleaned it up. If you have questons about this you can pm me or e-mail me. I will tell you the truth. There's no need to think we're up to no good.

This is not what this message board is supposed to be. We are to talk and share our experiences of John Wayne, and do an honest trade if possible.

Hondo Duke Lane B)

Hello Everyone,

I wanted to update on a member who has been away for some time now. I heard from AEC23 a.k.a. Amy a little while back. She is doing fine in eastern Tennessee, and has gotten married back in January. She's been real busy with setting up house with her new husband, and just not able to get on board. She conveyed that she will return soon, and I am sure that I am not just speaking for myself when I say that I look forward to seeing her again.

Congratulations, Amy in your marriage, and may you be blessed with many good years with a family who I know will love you as much as you love them.

Have a grand day!

Cheers, Hondo B)

Hello everyone,

I wanted to update on a member who has been away since last fall. I heard from Baron von Rassilon a few days ago. I want you to know how much he has missed being on the board and is looking forward to being back again. He has made some visits as a visitor to see what's happening. He has been out for a while and hopes to be back soon. He didn't say when, but he did say he has a lot of pictures for the picture game that we've been playing. He looks forward to participating again.

I wanted to pass this along to you, especially you older members who had a good relationship with Baron. You newer ones will be glad to meet this kind person.

Have a grand day!

Cheers, Hondo B)

Thats good to hear I look forward to Baron and Amy's return to the board.

:agent:

That's Great news about the baron look forward to having him back!

Hi

Has anyone heard from Roland or Jen lately havent seen them about the board for a while although I may have missed something.

:agent:

Add to that "The Ringo Kid." He hasn't been around for about two weeks and he was one to post almost daily. In one of his last posts, he indicated that he was "down with the flu." I hope that hasn't turned out to be something more serious.
Jay :mellow:

Good Point Jay,
Last month,Ringo and I had a couple of exchanges regarding the D-Day invasions,
and I've not heard from him since!

Its not been too long since Ringo was last on so I would'nt be too concerned at THIS stage.

Summertime seems to hurt the board some. I guess some people get out doors and stuff.

Yeah, I was becoming a bit concerned about Ringo myself. He usually posts atleast once a day. Maybe he is taing a break. Hope he is alright!!

Hi

If I remember right we went through the same thing last summer but picked up in the Autumn. But I must admit I was wondering about Ringo, perhaps he is on holiday.




Regards

Arthur

Yea last summer and the summer before was very slow but were not doing too bad so far this year.

:agent:

As you guys say now summer is here, we all tend to spend more time out of doors.
my good wife was just saying to me this morning.

"Are you going to sit in front of that thing all day?"

So after making it to 100 posts, I think it will be some time before I can make it to 200.

As for RINGO, I hope everything is OK, and he's back soon.

Emmanuel.

Having read some of the early posts on this thread, why don't some of us send Ringo PM's or e-mails, just to let him know there are people thinking of him.

Emmanuel.

Good point, emmanuel,
He may only be on holiday,
but as emmanuel,now knows
Bill, stumpy and I are not getting any younger,
so it does no harm to check on our pals,
if they go missing!!

Ethan.

All this talk about becoming more mature, has put me in the mood for a drink. :lol:

I send Ringo a PM.

Emmanuel. :jump:

I sent Ringo a PM and a email. If I get any response back I will let you know. Hope he is doing well. Miss the "kid" :)

Looking at the posts from RingoKid, I see that he was not feeling well and said that he was sick with a flu like symtoms. He does not have access to a computer at home, so he might be laid up and not able to get anywhere to reply. He last appeared on May 28 and posted that day as well. Keep him in your prayers and hopefully we will see him soon.

Cheers B)

Hi Hondo,
also, itdo hasn't posted since beginning of May,
that also seems strange!

hi all

as for itdo i thnk that somewhere he said that he could be tied up with his work and would try to come here if he had the time so i expect that he will be back soon

cheers smokey

ethanedwards,

Itdo has not posted since May 8, but he has made an appearance today. He may be only able to poke around and too busy to post. I've done the same thing from time to time. He'll post when he gets the time, he's not absent just not posting.

Cheers B)

Thanks Hondo Duke Lane, and smokey,
for your reference to itdo,
that's what's good about this site,
people care, and there's nothing
wrong with that.

Hi Jay, Smokey, Ethan, Robbie, Kevin, Viper, Arthur, Emmanuel, Hondo.

Jay, I did have a touch of Flu but got over it after about 3-4 days. I had a Drs appt on May 31st and then was sent to the hospital (which I did not expect) abd registered at Christus Spohn Shoreline that evening. I was there untill June 3rd and then was transferred to a long tern facility 9 which was about 1 block away) and I was there untill lastnight June 23rd. I was released at 7:30 PM. Now I get to start playing catch-up here a bit :-))

Hi Ethan, Sorry I could not reply. I was able to get in touch with a friend who was able to check some of my accounts and let a few people know.

Hi Robbie, many thanks :-))

Hi Kevin, Not me--too hot and humid here for me to wanna spend time outdoors. I sure can't wait till we get a few days of cool cool rain here (whenever that will be?)

Thanks Viper for your kind message and did some explaining. I;m still reeking from meds so I probably left out some details. :-))

Hi Arthur, heh heh, I guess you could say I had a vacation of sorts ;-)) :-))

Thank you Emmanuel, things are much better now than a few weeks ago. I'll still be taking 7 meds daily for at least a month and one for 2 months.

Congratulations on making your 100th post. Also, thanks for that suggestion for messages. I recieved some and was glad for it. All you Ladies and gents here mean alot to me and it was great to hjear from some of you. Thanks again to Viper as well.

Thank you Hondo. It's true, I do not hava a computer at home and I had no access in the hospital either. I was beginning to go through some compuertr and Duke Wayne withdrawell.

Carl

My earlier post may have sounded a little harsh by me but I was unaware that you were having health problems and I simply thought you were taking a break from the messageboard.

:agent:

Hi Carl,

I posted my welcome back on the Real Senior members thread,
Having read the above, you've been through a fair lot,
So welcome back, anyway.

Keith

Ringo,

Glad to have you back! We missed you, and I knew you'd be back. I am glad you are doing better, but you take better care of yourself. We enjoy having you here, but you must take care of yourself first. We'll be here for a long time, Kevin will make sure of that. And I hope you'll know that you were missed here for a good while.

You have a great day.

Cheers Hondo Duke Lane B)

Hi Robbie, Keith, Hondo.

Robbie, that's definately not a problem :-)) and you definately did not sound harsh. In fact, I am flattered and very greatful for the concern I have been getting from so many of the great folks on this site. I feel like you ladies and Gents are like another family to me.

Hi Keith, Thank you for the great welcoming back. It's great to be back here and replying to some fine folks. I can hardly await tonight because I will be feeding my John Wayne cravings by watching Red River. :-))
It's also good to seem like a senior here. Not long ago I only had three blue squares by my name. ;-)

Hi Hondo, I agree with you, I had to get my health taken care of and BOY is the price for medications soaring through the roof. :o I missed you all as well and really wished I had had a laptop computer of my own to keep up with the world outside my room. :-)) Also, that is very encouraging news to hear on Kevin wanting to keep this site available. I found other sites on The Duke and like them but, I like this one more.

Best regards--Carl.

Hi Carl -
So glad to have you back. I felt something was amiss when you hadn't posted in over a week. Like you, my computer is work, so I am only getting back to the message board this morning. It's good to hear you are on the mend, but watch those meds - side effects can get crazy.
Catch up on all the messages here - there have been a bunch. Hear from you soon.
Cheers - Jay :D

Hi Jay, thanks for the concerns. I am on the mend thankfully. :-)) I have been trying to cathch up some but I have too many sites im on--which is a good thing.
Your correct on those meds though, but luckily they don't effect me too much except for maybe a bit of dizziness which does not last long.


Take care--C.

but luckily they don't effect me too much except for maybe a bit of dizziness which does not last long.


You'll be alright, I am dizzy all the time and I don't take a single pill!!!!!

:lol: heh heh heh. TRK.

Has anyone heard anything at all from Roland as of late.

:agent:

hi robbie

maybe because i come on at a different time to you i have seen roland on having a poke about i dont think he has had the time to post but he has been in. when hes not so busy he will get back into the swing of things then we could all be saying boy oh boy has he got a fire in his shorts or what.

cheers smokey

Hi Smokey, sorry I missed your 1,000th post, congratulations to you!!" :D

TRK.

I have just noticed that A Girl Named Jen has not been active since mid-April. I know that sometimes members might be out of pocket for a while and then come back their old active selves, but she was quite prolific. Just thought I'd point it out.
Cheers - Jay -_-

Sometimes Jay I send e-mail to those who have been absent for a while just to say hello and tell them they have been missed. That gets them back sometimes.

Thanks for pointing that out.

I may e-mail her.

Cheers B)

Originally posted by Jay J. Foraker@Jul 5 2005, 03:32 PM
I have just noticed that A Girl Named Jen has not been active since mid-April.* I know that sometimes members might be out of pocket for a while and then come back their old active selves, but she was quite prolific.* Just thought I'd point it out.
Cheers - Jay* -_-
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Funny Hondo should mention sending an occasional email to formerly active members who haven't been around. I recently sent one to Jen, to let her know she's been missed. She responded that she had trouble accessing the board awhile back, and also has been very busy working on her Master's thesis at school, and misses being here. That was just a little over a week ago.

Mrs. C :angel1:

Does anyone know the where-abouts of Itdo? Just concerned as I have not seen him here for quite awhile. i hope everything is OK for him.

Hi Carl,
We discussed the whereabouts of itdo, not long ago,
on Missing Members!
You may be interested in this,
as I tend to be posting stuff when America sleeps,
I am sometimes, with the exception of our other European members,
(bearing in mind itdo is in Switzerland),the only one active!
Ocasionally itdo's name appears on the board, views a few topics,
and then is gone!
In fact he was here today!!!

Best Wishes,
From your adopted English friend,,
Keith

I recently emailed itdo regarding his absence. He emailed back, indicating that he does briefly visit the board periodically, but he is VERY busy and doesn't really have time to post much right now.

Drop him a line!

Chester :newyear:

Well I guess its just nice to know he is alright and sometimes life can get hectic. when he has time I am sure he will come back.

Hi Keith, Chester, Viper.

Keith, sorry about that, I must not have seen the topic on Itdo, or if I had, I forgot about it. :wacko: :D As you guys over there are at least 6 hrs ahead of me in times, tis OK but I know I need to try to find more time for this site to be able to see. :) And heck yes, your a great English friend. I'm glad to add you to Arthur and friends of mine like Paul E, Ryan O, and a few others living there. :D

Chester, thanks for the suggestion, I will be sending Itdo a letter this week.

Hi everyone,
Just wondering, haven't heard from Emmanuel, or popol vuh lately,
Hope you guys are OK??

Best Wishes,
Keith

Originally posted by ethanedwards@Oct 14 2005, 04:35 PM
Hi everyone,
Just wondering, haven't heard from Emmanuel, or popol vuh lately,
Hope you guys are OK??

Best Wishes,
Keith
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Hi Keith

I'm still around. I check in to see what's going on every day. Just been really busy lately and just briefly read through the threads. A short break that I still enjoy very much. I'm sure I'll be back posting more when I have more time on my hands.

Best wishes to you and everyone else on the message board too.

Regards
Popol Vuh

Hi Popol,
Thanks for getting in touch,
Good to see you're still round.
Keep in touch, when you can,

Best Wishes,
Keith

Just a quick update on Baron Von Rassilon -

I emailed him to wish him a happy third anniversary on the message board, and received the following from him -

Glad to hear from you. Glad all of you are fine. I am slowly returning
to the computer and am trying to get back to the message board.
Anyway. say hi to the gang and hope both you and Sue are fine.

regards Baron von Rassilon




Chester :newyear:

I'm still wondering about Stumpy and Itdo. Anyone know any updates on the both of them?

Originally posted by The Ringo Kid@Feb 18 2006, 10:47 AM
I'm still wondering about Stumpy and Itdo. Anyone know any updates on the both of them?
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Ringo,

I've recently checked with Itdo, and he is still pretty busy at work, although he does come by and check the Board evey now and then. Stumpy does also, and I'm surprised he doesen't post, as I thought the conflict he had, had been resolved.

Chester :newyear:

Hi Chester

Thanks for posting those updates.

With reference to Stumpy I believe he has posted within the last two weeks.

With regards to Roland he used to be quite a consistent member of the board and while I don't dispute he may be busy I am a little surprised that its been nearly a year since we last heard from him, are there other issues?

:agent:

Just a suggestion but maybe we should have thread where members can leave a message to let everyone know that they will be away.

Originally posted by Robbie@Feb 18 2006, 12:38 PM
With regards to Roland . . . its been nearly a year since we last heard from him, are there other issues?27490
I guess the best way to find that out is to email him directly.

Chester :newyear:

Originally posted by chester7777@Feb 18 2006, 03:39 PM
Ringo,

I've recently checked with Itdo, and he is still pretty busy at work, although he does come by and check the Board evey now and then. Stumpy does also, and I'm surprised he doesen't post, as I thought the conflict he had, had been resolved.

Chester* :newyear:
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Hi Chester, thanks for these updats. It's nice to hear that they are still stompni' around.

Best regards--C.

hi guys

just taking up some of beks idea and am posting here that i could be away for a while this being as i am now doing my course and work experience which will be taking up most of my time have 2 days a week where i have to be up and out before 6:10am and dont get home till about 5:45pm and the other three i have long days as well so will be using the free days to do study and catch up on house work so i will have to get in when i can

hopefully this will be as often as i can

till then hooroo smokey

Hello All
I'm sure many members know, but for those who don't, if you go to members at the top line of the J W Message board page and click on that you can enter a members name and go to their profile and go to last posts and then see exactly when they last posted. In the case of Stumpy I did that and it has been a while. i sent jim a pm and we shall see what comes of that. Take care and have fun murray :D

Well, it s been awhile since we have heard from Hondo(Mike) and smokey. Mike was on the board on the 30th of May and smokey was last seen on the 8th of May. I hope they are doing alright and nothing bad has happened. People sometimes need a break and I hope thats all that is happening.

Please feel free to comment if you know anything and you can talk about it. Thanks.


PS. I just read Mikes last post and he mentions a woman. That will do it everytime!!! :lol: :lol: Hope you are doing alright Mike. Not all of them are that bad, heck even I found one that would put up with me!!!

You would know it, but as soon as I posted about where Hondo is, he shows up a couple hours later!! Good to see you are back again Mike.

Now, anybody heard from Smokey?

Hi Todd, nope, I haven't seen Smokey here for awhile. I too sure hope she is doing well.

hi guys

just to give you all the heads up i have been studing for the last while and have another 12 months to go so i will only be poping in when i get the time like now have only next wednesday for this semseter and i have holidays for 2 weeks and go back on the 3rd of july and then the chrismas break go back in january next year to complete. thanks for missing me have done well so far have passed with flying colours all of the subjects will earn my cert 2 in retail for this semester.

so hondo has gone and got himself a lady well goood on him he needs someone in his life hope she bring him all the happyness that they can find. here i sit with a broken heart :lol: :lol:

hooroo smokey

Smokey,

Glad to hear from you. Good luck in your studies. Its nice to know you are alright. Talk to you later.

Another member not heard from in a while is Cole Thornton, not active since mid-October. Hope he is OK!
Cheers - Jay <_<

Does anyone have any information on the following three members

1. A girl named Jen
2. EthanEdwards (Keith)
3. Baron

They all have not posted for a significant period of time and I was wondering if anyone has any additional information.

Thanks
Robbie

:agent:

We were in contact with Jen about a year ago, and if I remember correctly, she was working on an advanced degree in school, and that was taking quite a bit of her time.

Not sure about Keith, but I can say that he did send me a PM, when word of my surgery came out. He did spend an awful lot of time working tirelessly on the Duke Movie Forum, posting so many reviews and other information, he may have gotten a little burned out. I hope he'll be back again.

Baron has periodically been here and then left again - sometimes I wonder if keeping one's computer up and running has something to do with a person's ability to be here. We've had as many as four computers at one time going in our house (lots of people!!), but right now, we're down to one (lots of competition for 'puter time!!!). Many folks have good intentions about becoming regular, but other aspects of life interfere. I know for us, kid's activities, vacation time, remodeling work in the house, and of course my unexpected illness and hospitalization all play a part in why we've not been around as much as we would like.

For those who have "stayed the course" I would like to offer my thanks and appreciation, because without you, this place would be a ghost town. And of course, we are always happy when some of the old-timers are able to duck in and say "Howdy!" once in a while, and touch base with us and let us know how they're doing.

Quite honestly, there are some members who have not been happy with the way the moderators have handled some issues, and have gone on to other pastures. All I can say about that is that we try to do our best, and "you can please some of the people all of the time, all of the people some of the time, but you can't please all of the people all of the time." We're just human, and sometimes we make mistakes.

So I haven't really answered your question very well, but I have put out a few ideas as to why folks may not be around.

Chester :newyear:

As in Keith's case he might be on vacation.Maybe not abroad but just busy with family and/or friends.That's what happens to me during my hol's.

And of course, we are always happy when some of the old-timers are able to duck in and say "Howdy!" once in a while, and touch base with us and let us know how they're doing.


So, what makes a person a "old timer" !!! :lol: :lol:

The term 'Old Timer' is relative. <_<

Jim, I hope everything is settling out for you, and hope your back working hard again.

Chester

I appreciate you taking the time to post the message above. I'm sorry to hear that some members have left the board due to issues with moderators and this may explain why some people have not been around for the past couple of months.

While it may be a confidential issue, could we be informed as to what members have had disagreements with members and subsequently left the board. It would be good to know and ultimately stop some members from posting queries and pm's etc asking where certain missing members are. I understand if this is considered a private issue.

:agent:

hi guys

have been studing really hard passed last lot with flying colours have been busy doing about 20 weeks work in about 12weeks so have been flat out like a lizard drinking. have about 3 weeks left of this part and then i move onto the next level it goes for about 9 weeks for the end of this year and then 7 weeks in the next then i move to the last level and then all going well i will have my dip. in retail management.

hope to make time in the next 5 weeks to get here and have a real chat with you all have missed being able to come and do so.

till then cheers smokey

Good to hear from you Smokey, sounds like you are coming along nicely in your training. Think of all the fun you will have after you are done!! Look forward to hearing from you when you have time.

Hi Smokey

Like wise glad to hear your doing so well all my regards to you and your little chap although he's probably not that little now.

regards

Arthur

smokey,

It's GREAT to hear from you :D , and we are glad to hear that you are doing so well in school :D ! We'll look forward to hearing a little more from you in the next few weeks :D , and of course, we'll understand when you're gone for awhile again :( .

Chester :newyear: and the Mrs. :angel1:

Hi Smokey - we've missed you!
Cheers - Jay :D

Originally posted by Jay J. Foraker@Sep 7 2006, 12:03 AM
Hi Smokey - we've missed you!
Cheers - Jay :D
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We sure do :rolleyes:

Smokey

Didn't realise you have been away. Only Jokeing of course I've missed you, good luck with your course.

Incidentally whats happened Mike aka HondoDukeLane, he's only posted a few times since April, has he just lost interest with the board?

:agent:

Robbie, I think he has been having some romance in his life. He mentioned it in a post awhile back. Other then that I have no idea.

One other person who has yet to come back is EthanEdwards(Keith), has he completely left us? He did such a nice job with the movie info and then just disappeared.

Hello all
I have little to offer thats worth reading so let me say only this, there is missing and there is missing. I think it will be really cool if as many members attend in Monument as possible. B 4 I get snoose for hyjacking this thread i say adieu.

Hi Keith - glad to see you are back - we've missed you a lot around here, my English friend. Hope all is well with you.
Cheers - Jay :D

Hi Jay, Texan buddy,

Yes, all is well here.
I have followed your career changes throughout the last few months,
so I hope things are now working out for you,

Best Wishes

Hi Keith - at this point, I'm hangin' in ^_^ .
Cheers - Jay :D

Hi Keith, glad to see you back here and I completely echo Jay's words to ye.

Take care Mate--C.

Hey there everyone. A very busy year, and the romance has simmered down somewhat, but what the hey, I have you guys here to keep me company. I try to get back here every once in a while and it has been busy with my business and trying to find that special someone. I have been thinking of you guys and have a lot to catch up with on the reading. Maybe you'll have to give me that condense version of what's happening. I am still pumped up with the Duke and try to get him in as much as possible.

Thank you for your support and friendship; I do appreciate it very much. Keep on posting. Arthur has and passed me I see. That's alright.

Later, Cheers B)

Also from me, Hi everyone,

Thanks for the concern,
I'm fine and I've posted my thanks on that
old stamping ground,

The Real Seniors Thread,

thanks to Popul Vuh, for bumping it back again!!

Hey Hondo, glad to see you are ok and are still hanging around. We kind of get lonely so once in awhile we bring this thread up to see if the "originals" are still around. Hope to see you back alittle more often.


Keith, you are a sight for sore eyes!! Glad you are ok and look forward to your lively discussions in the "seniors" thread.

Hi Todd,

Thanks.How are you, I hope you are well?
We seem to have lost all the girls for the lively discussions,
we'll have to see if we can muster everyone back again.

Best Wishes

Keith - it seems the girls are all busy with other things at the moment. I hate to admit it :uhuh: , but it looks like you were the head he-male that got the fairer sex all twiterpated :uhuh: !
Cheers - Jay :D

hi jay and ethan

your right i for one have been busy doing other things i have just completed cert 3 in my course and have started cert 4 to be completed early next year then i do the last level and grad in july with my dip in retail management so have been busy looking up laws and such for my different assignments. by the way i passed all of my cert 3 with flying colours not bad for an old duck now.

can teach an old dog new tricks :lol:

catch you around sometime have 2 weeks off and 2 assignments due in the first week back so might be able to come as often as i would like to till december.

cheers smokey

smokey,

It's grand to see you again, and we're glad to hear you're doing so well!!

Chester :newyear: and the Mrs. :angel1:

Whoopee - Our beautiful Aussie shiela is back. It's great to hear you are learning so many new things, but it's even better having you back here :wub: ! Hope the little bloke is doing all right.
Cheers - Jay :D

hi jay mr & mrs c

glad to make it back the little fella and i are doing well hes back at school now just went back in fact i have another 3 days plus the weekend then im back. have just spent the last 41/2 hours looking at different laws and such for one of my assignments.

mr c glad to see you are back up on your feet and getting better all the time before you know it you will be back on top.

hope to catch up soon if not might not see you till early december will try and get here if i can

smokey

Has anyone seen or heard from Graham aka as Chance as of late. I can't remember him making a post for quite some time.

:agent:

Has anyone seen or heard from Graham aka as Chance as of late. I can't remember him making a post for quite some time.

:agent:

Haven't seen him Robbie. also Ringo has been missing, I am asumming that the holidayhs have allot to do with that though. I am sure he will be back after the New Year.

I think Ringo said he had the flu in a recent post.

Get better soon

Mike

CHANCE, Graham,

Was last time I heard busy with the new board portrait,
but he'll re-appear again soon, I'm sure!

I think Ringo said he had the flu in a recent post.

Get better soon

Mike

Thanks, I must have missed that with the board move.

Get well soon Ringo!!! :doctor:

Thanks Mike, Todd, I was not able to post here for two weeks because my account would not let me log in. Thanks to Kevin, he got that problem fixed for me. Now to take soem time to try learning where everything is on this new set-up.

Oh and if anyone sent me a PM and I did not reply, it definately was not intended.

Rootbeers "on the house" to you all. Ringo. aka--C.

Hi Carl, My Texan buddy,

Glad to see you back!

Great new site , Heh???

Thanks Mike, Todd, I was not able to post here for two weeks because my account would not let me log in. Thanks to Kevin, he got that problem fixed for me. Now to take soem time to try learning where everything is on this new set-up.

Oh and if anyone sent me a PM and I did not reply, it definately was not intended.

Rootbeers "on the house" to you all. Ringo. aka--C.

Carl, you will like the new setup. It is alittle differnet but the added features are a welcome change.

Glad to see you made it back, see you around.

Hi Keith, Todd, thank you both and it is GREAT to be back on the scene. Man it sure was boring to come use the library computer and not be able to access Dukewayne. I registered under the name of Ringo Starr just to be able to let those in charge known of my login troubles.


Im definately keeping my Ringo Kid account.

Carl,

So glad you solved it, and it just shows...we CARE!!!!

:-)) Thanks mate :-))

Hi all.

It's been a long time since Murray (Kilo 6)
has been around, I've send him a couple of
PM's but have had no reply, I was wondering
if anyone has heard from him.

Emmanuel.

Come to think of it, I have not seen Murray either. Hope nothing is wrong.

I don't get a chance to post as often as I would like, but I am never away for much more than a month at a time.

Regards,

GSP

GSP,

Good to see you again, keep on keeping the faith!

Chester :newyear:

I don't get a chance to post as often as I would like, but I am never away for much more than a month at a time.

Regards,

GSP

I agree with Chester,

Nice to see you around

Same from this quarter, GSP. Nice to have you back.
Cheers - Jay:beer:

Thanks everyone for the kind words

GSP

Hi GSP, I completely echo what everyone else has said here. Glad to see you back on the site.

For those of you that have access to send like a mass email, maybe you could send an informative email to missing members telling them about upcoming events and that some of us are probably going to be gathering, lets say at Winterset during the celebration and that details can be found on the forum. It could be an incentive to come back and visit.

I just don't have the time to do one to everyone but maybe staff could do a mass email. I stay pretty busy on p2p sites.

Sounds like a good idea DakotaSurfer. Even if they could be done in batches of 10 or 20 it may trigger a positive response.

Mike

It has always been accepted here, that folks come and go for whatever reasons,
and are always welcomed back, when they return.

Hi All

Still no sign of Graham aka Chance who has not visited the board since the end of November. I do realise that people are free to come and go of their own accord but Graham had undertaken a painting of certian members of the messageboard which was due for completion around Christmas time.

I wonder did he loose interest in the painting and then decide that he couldn't return to the messageboard, I hope this isnt the case.

Has anyone received any replies from emails sent to missing board members?

:agent:

Robbie, thanks for reminding us of this thread. You're right , Graham hasn't been around since then. Has anyone tried e-mailing him? Or, does anyone have his phone number, and could give him a ring.

Chester :newyear:

Last time I heard from Graham,
he PM'd me regarding the new portrait,
he seemed OK then, but he has come and gone before!!
His last activity was 11.25.06

and here is his last significant post,
made 0N 11.02.06 and he seemed fine!

Hi Robbie , Keith I just wanted to see if anyone had any different photos then the norm. Mark(dukefan1)and Colorado bobs have the right ideas and the sort of pictures i'm after.
Thanks
Chance

I emailed him when the messageboard was hacked into but I never got a response from him.

Maybe others on this site have also emailed him and got a response.

:agent:

Anyone seen Colorado Bob here lately? Kinda worried about him as I think he lives in an area that has recieved lots of snow.

Hi Carl,

There doesn't seem to be a a problem

Bob made a post yesterday!

Click here to see

Bob's Post (http://www.dukewayne.com/showthread.php?p=38828#post38828)

Hi Keith

You are correct, Bob has been quite a consistent poster on this board since he joined and he did indeed post a message yesterday.

Anyone heard anything from Graham aka Chance?.

:agent:

Robbie,
He was mentioned just a bit earlier in this thread,
and indeed, I think the last members who heard from him,
were you and I, regarding the portrait!

Hi Keit

Anyone heard anything from Graham aka Chance?.

:agent:

Robbie, I would have thought you or Arthur may have had Graham's phone number and could give him a ring. Is it possible to check out the phone directory over there for his phone number?

Chester :newyear:

Thanks Keith, Robbie. I guess we just post at different times here and with all the traffic that is here; I guess his posts can easily get buried under all the other replies.

Howdy all,
Just thought I would pass on to everyone, I heard from Graham a couple of days ago. Part of his email read: "I've had a few personal problems so I'm going to have to shelve the JWMB painting as i don't think i'll have the time to do it could you send my appologise to the group as i won't be on there for sometime."

He didn't elaborate what was going on, and I didn't ask, but I think we should all keep Graham and his family in our thoughts and prayers. I'm sure Graham would appreciate it.
Best to all,
Colorado Bob

Speaking of "missing" members, has anyone heard from Senta lately?

Last we heard she had problems signing on to the new board. Kevin was working with her on this. I think that was about a month ago.

I was getting a bit worried about our darlin from St. Petersburg. Glad to hear its only like the problem I first had in signing on here.

Sent out a note to past members last night and recieived this from Baron Von Rassilon,

Greetings!
Great to hear from you again. Sorry I've haven't been to the forum in a long while. My family has been going through some very rough times, medically. I try to pop in when I can, but it has been a rare time.

I'll try to get back ASAP. Hope you and the missus are doing well though.

Again I will try to make my way back to the forum soon. Thanks

Here's another response from JWfan:

Hi Chester and the Mrs,

Everything is ok with me, I hope with u as well.
I have been very busy with school lately, so thats why am not on the message board anymore.
But I am still a big John Wayne fan.

Kind Regards from cold Holland,

Danny
JWfan.

Last we heard she had problems signing on to the new board. Kevin was working with her on this. I think that was about a month ago.


I believe she has signed on after that issue. So I don't think there is a login problem.

Here's another response from JWfan:

Hi Chester

Thanks for the update, however judging the way JWfan constructed his post it sounds like he has left the board for good which is a little disappointing.

:agent:

Hi Chester
it sounds like he has left the board for good which is a little disappointing.
:agent:
If you think that's disappointing, wait until you read this response from itdo -

Hi Chester
thanks for your message. The last time I've been asked that (I
think by Robbie) I checked out the board and found a post about
Brokeback Mountain. People who never saw the film and could therefore
not judge the contents went way over the top condemning it and all
gays with it (I'm not gay by the way, in case I should say that).
Now, after your message, I went to the board and the first post I
read was about the new bronze about to be unveiled. An info that
interested me very much. However, sure enough it was invested soon by
nasty comments (Have you read Jane Fonda's biography in the meantime,
Chester?). A couple of weeks ago, I read that somebody would want to
wrestle Ethan Wayne in the square of Winterset.

That's just a couple of examples but they say enough why I cannot
be an active member at this time. As long as the Wayne familiy is so
openly attacked by forum members who don't have all the facts to
judge anything (or worse: they make up their own facts), and as long
as comments like those are not moderated, I cannot see why I should
be part of that. In my opinion, that's still the reason why the board
is not recognized by the big Wayne collectors, the big name Wayne
fans or the family itself.
But let me just say, as Mary Kate would have: Thank you anyway for
the asking.
Kind regards and Happy Easter,
Roland Perhaps we should be thinking a little more about what we're typing. There may be others who read this board, who never post, who might be put off by some of what is said.

Chester :newyear:

If you think that's disappointing, wait until you read this response from itdo -

Perhaps we should be thinking a little more about what we're typing. There may be others who read this board, who never post, who might be put off by some of what is said.

Chester :newyear:

While I appreciate everyone's views and would never want this board to become a environment of hate. There are allot of different people on here and we all have opinion's or experiences that they believe are the right one's. We have to be careful because I don't think we should become sheep and just kiss the boots of whoever just to get recognition. But I think we just need to be sensitive about or ideas and what may be seen or miscontrued. Here is a example, itdo said he didn't like the comments about what people said about a movie. As a board maybe we just need to say that there is a limit as to what we can comment on for a movie review. Not attack things in a personal way.

These are just thoughts. I am by no means making recommendations, these are just random thoughts. I hate to see a long time member leave over something like this but I commend a person for standing up and taking a stand as I am sure the Duke and all his fans would as well.

You will be missed itdo, sorry to see you leave.
Take care of yourself and maybe our paths will cross again sometime.

I agree with Todd, and in otherwords, everyone here has a different personality and everyone will have differing thoughts. I KNOW I have been party to speaking my mind--which is how I was raised. However, if someone disagres with me, I AINT going to make an issue out of it and will not quite this sites because I might not care for someone elses thoughts. If someone really wants to, they will find a fault with anything a person might say here.

Like Todd said, sorry to see you leave but hope you will come back at another time.

Best regards and Cheers--Carl.

Hi Chester, Carl and Todd,
When I've read itdo comments I began to think that at some points he is right, expesially about some posts conserning Wayne family. And we sure missed him.
Regards,
Senta

Hi

When I read Rolands comments yesterday they supported what I originally thought was one of the reasons for his choosing to be a non participent on this board. originally he asked a what to me was a perfectly innocent question namely had anyone read the Jane Fonda autobiography. The response he got would have put anyone off.

I may be getting into trouble here but however to me Jane Fonda is an actress who turned me on as a kid in Barbrella and now is a reasonably attractive 69 year old actress who advertising some cream on British television.

However I am not naive enough to ignore her past history and the place she holds in America, and by the fact that I am writing this now shows that I believe in free speech for all.

But.

Whilst the Vietnam conflict was a terrible thing it was mainly an American thing. Roland and I are Europeans. We could watch as the events unfolded and be concerned but purely as that bystanders, the internal goings on were not of our concern. There is a parrallel to day and for the British it is a little closer to home particularly as our young men and women are also dying along side the young American men and women.

People are crying out for the present war to stop as the American people did then. I do not condone or not condone Jane Fondas politics or actions they did not concern me, nor I supect did they Roland's, it is an American thing and perhaps should be contained for a political board rather than an appreciation of a fine actor John Wayne who it would be considered as a patriot would despise Jane Fonds credo but was asked and did present her with an Award.

One of our MP's was accused of going to Iraq and trying to agitate on their behalf. people spoke out against him many just called him a clown.

In the Second World War a man named William Joyce later to be called Lord Haw Haw went to Germany and nightly broadcast to the British public how badly the war was going.
People listened and when he announced that the Germans had sunk HMS Collingwood which is a naval shore establishment outside of Fareham, people began to realise that he was a clown. Mind you it didn't stop us hanging him after the war.

It may be that Roland has a point about the Wayne family I certainly believe so. I detect a slight softening particularly in the work that Chillibilly is doing with the Bar26, the establishment of a fan club and the educational centre in Winterset. it is these avenues that we should be exploring.

Leave World War II and Vietnam for what it was and for what Iraq will be in the future a horarific episode in the past history of our countries histories.

I was going to save tis for my 3000 post but perhaps a couple early won't make much difference here or there.

Regard

Arthur

I commend a person for standing up and taking a stand as I am sure the Duke and all his fans would as well.

Amen, Todd.

I've received considerable criticism and censure from the moderators for saying things that upset other people but that's just the way I am. (And as our hero was, by golly.) I say what I mean and mean what I say. This is, after all, a country where free speech is even codified in our Constitution. If it ever comes to the point on this board that free speech is NOT acceptable, then I don't want to be a participant anyway.

Hi all,

I'm sorry that itdo feels that he can't continue
to contribute to this great site. Although there
may be things that are written from time to time
that we all don't agree with, I certainly wouldn't
want any threads or posts censored because
they are not seen as politcally correct. I hope
that anyone coming across this site for the first
time sees a fun place where no one takes
themselves to serious,

Good luck Itdo, I hope you make it back this
way sometime.

Arthur, Stumpy, Emmanuel and all are correct. Emmanuel really hit the nail on the head with the censorship and politically correct thing. I would not want to see someones posting censored because it might be offensive to someone. Now I can see editing or deleting a post if it were full of obscenities and such but not necessarily one that is posted by someone who wants to say what they feel is correct. I am controversial as all heck and freely admit it. Having said that, to the best of my knowledge, I have never recieved a warning of anykind from any moderator about any posting I have made.

At any rate, like Stumpy said in other words of course, if the editing and P.C. thing happens here, then one might not want to take part in these discussions anymore. All i can say for myself is, I am staying here until I am told to leave. Also, I have had the pleasure of meeting many fine folks here and a few have become friends. If it were not for this site, none of us would have ever met.

I also want to give Kevin and the Moderating Team, my best compliments for running THE BEST SITE, on the internet--and with much much common sense.

Lastly, being politically correct is ruining our world.

Hi all,

Carl my friend, well said.

Have to agree with the recent posts. Everyone has different opinions and beliefs and I think they have the right to express them freely without risk of censorship.

As Emmanuel says there have been times when I have read certain posts in threads and not agreed with them but I respect the rights of those members to express themselves and have found the best way to remedy that situation is to post a thread or add a post on a different subject relating to John Wayne.

I honestly think this is the BEST John Wayne site for fans with all credit to Kevin and the Moderating Team and ALL the Members.

Why the John Wayne family will not facilitate this site by officially linking into it is I believe their loss.

I dont think any of The Wayne Family are that sensitive to criticism and I think any gripes I have read are more about the delay certain releases not being available on DVD or the fact that the website hasnt got up and running legitimate concerns for any fan base.


Anyway Arthur Jane Fonda !!! Barbarella!!! you old devil you LOL.

I can understand were you are coming from I dont think I managed to watch all of Barbararella but certain elements were "Very Interesting"!!

I read in a recent book that John Wayne attended her Oscar win party so he was big enough to accept people of different views and opinions.




Mike



I think members should give thought

John Wayne was, first and foremost, an individualist. He would have totally rejected the concept of collective "group-think", i.e., that others could tell him what and when he could voice an opinion. I truly believe this aspect of his personality was one of the things that made him so popular with so many people. In other words, he personified the rugged individualist who settled the wild American West.

I know this character trait of Big John’s was one of the reasons I found him so appealing. I too am an individualist and detest others trying to dictate what I can say and when I can say it. I don’t deliberately go looking for conflicts with other people but believe myself perfectly capable of holding my own in the event I do get into one. Which is one reason I don’t like moderators butting in when I happen to have a disagreement with another individual. I’m not gonna flame someone or use vile language in defending my point-of-view but can, and will, defend it vigorously.

The rosy view of some moderators that all is supposed to be sweetness and light on this forum, with never a dissenting view, is totally at odds with the real world, IMO. Now, if you disagree with my POV, then go ahead and ban me because like I said, I don’t wanna participate in a forum that places unreasonable restrictions on free speech and thought. (Believe it or not, I was kicked off a forum for calling another individual a puerile (childish) adolescent. The moderator said that was a personal insult. All I can say is, if he thought that was an insult, he hasn’t heard me when I really insult someone.:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: )

Hi Stumpy

I can just imagine what "he hasn’t heard me when I really insult someone" is like!! LOL

Like you I am an individualist and don't go with the flow.

Keep the faith

Mike

I was going to respond to this thread yesterday, before anyone else had started to discuss the moderating and guidelines, but then I realized that there was something wrong here. Itdo had his reasons for leaving this message board and it seems pretty clear to me that he had no intentions of making a fuss about this. He didn't like the attitude/opinions of some people here so he chose not to post. He is then contacted by a PM, which he replies to and the answer is then posted publicly, which I feel is wrong. I sent a PM to Chester yesterday, but he has not responded to it so I am now pointing this out here. If Chester asked itdo's permission to use this answer then it is okay, but since he has not replied I can't know if he has. Wether things should be moderated or not is a question I will not go too much into, but if you read what itdo says it is people who post things without any foundation that annoys him. Personal attacks against members of the Wayne family might be considered slander and if so it would be illegal regardless of having freedom of speech.

I know that the answer was posted with the best of intentions, but I still feel it is very wrong. PM's are personal. I am sure that itdo is quite capable of speaking for himself and that he would have done so if this is what he wanted.

Regards
Popol Vuh

If you think that's disappointing, wait until you read this response from itdo -

Perhaps we should be thinking a little more about what we're typing. There may be others who read this board, who never post, who might be put off by some of what is said.

Chester :newyear:

Let me first say that I believe participation in any kind of online forum such as this one requires a certain amount of "thick skin." No two people will think exactly the same, nor would I, for one, want to live in a world where everyone thought exactly alike.

Now, as to "Brokeback Mountain," I offer no apologies as to what was said about that film. This is certainly a free country and whatever homosexuals do in the privacy of their own homes and bedrooms is no concern of mine. But, when these homosexual activists begin using films and the media to promote their sick agenda and try to convert people to this lifestyle, that is totally unacceptable, and I, for one, make no apologies for attacking this piece of pro-homosexual propaganda. As Duke said in The Alamo, "There's right and there's wrong. You got to do one or the other."

As far as Jane Fonda goes, you must remember that we have several former and current U.S. Military personnel on this board. Naturally, these people have very strong feelings about Ms. Fonda, as well they have a right to. In an earlier generation, she would have seen the inside of a jail cell for doing the things she did. It’s probably worth repeating that no one forced Ms. Fonda to visit Hanoi and parade around where U.S. servicemen were being tortured, just like no one forced her to turn up at that anti-war rally last year. I myself have seen only three Jane Fonda movies on TV, Cat Ballou, They Shoot Horses, Don’t They, and On Golden Pond. I wasn’t too impressed with her as an actress in any of them, therefore, when it comes to reading her autobiography, quite frankly, I have better things to do with my life (although I will say that I am not diametrically opposed to people on a political basis; for example, Kirk Douglas is a liberal Democrat, yet I read his autobiography and was thoroughly entertained by it).

As far as the Wayne family goes, I would cite the example of Mr. Brooks, and how shabbily Wayne Enterprises and their attorneys treated him when he was trying to get his 26 Bar museum going. I think most of the frustration that been expressed at them has been mostly about the lack of information coming from them, the long time delay in responding to people’s questions, and the general "price gouging" that has been going on with the 100th anniversary commemorative memorabilia ($700 hats and whatnot). There is no excuse for not answering people’s phone calls and emails. And, if itdo has additional "facts" about the Wayne family, I would think he would want to post them here. John Wayne is a hero to all of us here. No one wants to think ill of his kith and kin. But, we all have to believe what our eyes and ears tell us. If there is additional info, make it known by all means.

And, just who are these "big Wayne collectors" and "big name Wayne fans?" In my opinion, the greatest, most knowledgeable group of Wayne fans are right here on this board. I challenge anyone to find another group as good as this one.

And, let’s not forget that there is no rule that says that one must view every post in every topic. If a topic is not of interest to you, then don’t view it. For example, around the time of the World Cup there were several threads discussing soccer. Now this is something that I and most Americans have no interest in at all, but I figured, if you Europeans want to come on here and discuss it, that’s fine with me. I just chose not to view it, as it wasn’t of interest to me.

One thing that has become very clear in this discussion is that there must be quite a difference in the way Europeans and Americans view the world. You Euros must be used to a much higher level of censorship than us Yanks. We speak our minds, come hell or high water. To do otherwise for fear of "rocking the boat" would be unthinkable. I’d like to think that the "Spirit of '76" will always beat in the heart of every American. As Stumpy said, our freedom of speech is guaranteed in the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. Many millions of Americans died to guarantee those freedoms. I know that Duke believed in that freedom, as I hope every fan of his would as well. I will say right now that I have thoroughly enjoyed reading many of itdo’s old posts, and if he ever did decide to come back, I, for one, would welcome him with open arms, no questions asked. I know that losing members of this board is a bitter pill to swallow, but, in my opinion, it would be far, far worse for this great board to succumb to politically correct censorship.

Thank you and good night,

E.J.

As a newbie to this site, I have to say that I was particularly riveted with this whole discussion. Most of you on this site are far more knowledgeable than I when it comes to Mr. Wayne and the others mentioned and I am humbled by that fact. Just wanted all of you to know that it was very interesting for a first timer to read.

This is good stuff.

Excellent post, ejgreen77. I agree wholeheartedly with everything you said. (As you knew I would :wink_smile: )

Excellent post, ejgreen77. I agree wholeheartedly with everything you said. (As you knew I would :wink_smile: )

Thanks, Stumpy. I think I just wrote out my own personal political manifesto.

BTW, nice lizard (though I was partial to the "Don't Tread on Me" flag):wink_smile:

E.J.

BTW, nice lizard (though I was partial to the "Don't Tread on Me" flag):wink_smile: Well, I thought I'd give the flag a rest and put up a "horny toad" just for a change. Sort of a Texas-style symbol, ya know. But I've got the flag in reserve.

I've been on one forum where the members change their avatars almost daily. Hard to keep up with 'em.

Great post ej.

I hope people are not becoming offened by reading this. I know both Stumpy and ej as well as myself are not trying to stir anything up. Just trying to explain a few things as we see it.

I know both Stumpy and ej as well as myself are not trying to stir anything up. Just trying to explain a few things as we see it.

Hell, guys, differences of opinion are what make the world go 'round. Like ej said, if you don't like a post, just ignore it.

Great post, Ejgreen!

Hi

I thought this topic would be 'interesting' and the comments well presented. it all illustrates the reason why this site is like it is and hopefully always will be. I can't imagine any reason to veto, censor or ban any member for making a comment. Now I'll take my moderaters hat off and get back to normal.

Regards

Arthur

I was going to respond to this thread yesterday, before anyone else had started to discuss the moderating and guidelines, but then I realized that there was something wrong here. Itdo had his reasons for leaving this message board and it seems pretty clear to me that he had no intentions of making a fuss about this. He didn't like the attitude/opinions of some people here so he chose not to post. He is then contacted by a PM, which he replies to and the answer is then posted publicly, which I feel is wrong. I sent a PM to Chester yesterday, but he has not responded to it so I am now pointing this out here. If Chester asked itdo's permission to use this answer then it is okay, but since he has not replied I can't know if he has. Wether things should be moderated or not is a question I will not go too much into, but if you read what itdo says it is people who post things without any foundation that annoys him. Personal attacks against members of the Wayne family might be considered slander and if so it would be illegal regardless of having freedom of speech.

I know that the answer was posted with the best of intentions, but I still feel it is very wrong. PM's are personal. I am sure that itdo is quite capable of speaking for himself and that he would have done so if this is what he wanted.

Regards
Popol Vuh
PV,

First of all, I would like to apologize to you for not responding to your PM, which I had read, but hadn't had time to answer. I appreciate your thoughtful comments. Regarding itdo's communication with me, it wasn't a PM, but an email (not that it makes much difference as far as seeking his permission to share here - I confess, I did not ask permission, and perhaps I should have; in the instance of the other two notes I shared, they were of a much more general nature, and I don't think the authors would mind that I shared their response to me. In the case of itdo, there was more detail and perhaps I should not have posted it all, and if I "spoke" out of turn, then I apologize to Roland, in case he is reading all of this as a guest). It was not my intent to unnecessarily disclose anything of a private nature.

Now, to all -
Many have asked over the past couple of years about what happened to Roland, and I have been at a loss as to how to explain it to folks (though I have been aware of his feelings that whole time). I have received other letters of a similar nature from him, expressing basically the same things, after I have contacted him and encouraged his return to the board, in a friendly, non-pressured manner. It seemed that his own words might convey his reasons for leaving, much better than anything I could have typed. I don't know if anyone else has asked Roland why he left; if so, no one else has seen fit to share it here, though several have asked.

Though Roland's English skills are excellent, he admits it is not his native tongue (quite a surprise to me!). It is possible that a few things are simply misunderstandings (for example, I don't think anyone intends to literally wrestle a member of the Wayne family to the ground to get an answer about something, that is only an idiom). However, as others have mentioned, I also think that there is somewhat of a different mindset between Europeans and Americans with regard to censorship.

In a previous communication with itdo, I mentioned that freedom of speech was far more important than censorship of the board (I'm sure there are some who might be surprised by that :wink_smile:). By the same token, as a moderator, I'm always trying to keep things on an even keel. I have been accused of both moderating too much and moderating too little. It's a fine line we moderators walk . . . .

Arthur and ejgreen, thank you both for your excellent posts. I didn't mean for all you folks to wear out your keyboards on this topic, but I do appreciate the comments and thoughts you have shared here.

As far as gaining the support of the Wayne family and/or Wayne Enterprises - we have tried many times, and not even gotten the courtesy of a response. If there is a better forum regarding John Wayne anywhere around, we have yet to find it, and believe me, we have looked. This message board might just be a little too "wild and wooly" for them to officially endorse, but I also think one that was mild and bland, without any critical thought, might be so boring that no one would hang out there :dead:.

So . . . just to allay any fears of being quoted without permission, I promise you all I will be more judicious in the future and ask permission first.

Chester :newyear:

This is certainly one of the most interesting topics on this board for quite some time and one of the most engrossing.

I had contacted Roland about 7-8 months ago regarding why he had left the board so I was aware of his reasons for leaving although he did hint that he may return in the future.

There are so many issues to address in relation to this issue that I don't quite know where to begin and while I like Roland and thought his posts were quite good I don't think he's exactly covered himself in glory on this issue.

Chester pointed out in an earlier post that one of his reasons for leaving was because he felt that the level of discussions on this board were not of a high enough standard for him to be associated with. As a member of this board I found this comment both disappointing and downright condescending.

In addition to this he claims he has issues with some of the content on this site primarily an isolated topic on 'Brokeback Mountain' which took place long after he left, while I didn't take part in this discussion I felt that if people didn't like the movie they had a right to express their view.

His final reason for leaving the board was due to the treatment of the John Wayne family and on this area I do agree with Roland. There has been a lot of negative comments written on this board regarding the family which have generally been unbalanced and unfair and perhaps this is something the moderators should review. I understand the family from a John Wayne fan standpoint have not exactly been very proactive by not replying to emails and by delaying the releases of his movies but when respected authors of books etc praise the family then maybe collectively as a board we are missing something.

Misinformation is always going to be a problem on messageboards and I know Roland and myself (as do many others on this board) again agreed on this issue that there were not enough facts regarding John Wayne and his movies. Facts and substance have too often been substituted with inaccuracies or general unsubstantiated stories which do nothing for the credibility of the board or John Wayne.

Despite having some disagreements with the moderators on this board on a number of occasions I feel that they do a good and thankless job. I do have some gripes with the moderators however my main one being the two completely inactive moderators namely Reasr and LibertyV. Is is not time that either there was a reduced number of moderators or these two moderators were replaced with members who actually bother to participate to the board. Its a little strange that two members who are rarely and in LibertyV's case never on the board to hold such a position, if there is a reason for their absence that I am unaware of then I do apologise otherwise their positions are moderators has become unattainable. Incidentally its not good enough for either of these members to simply reply to this post and state that they are still active, what is needed is continual long term contributions from these people.

Regarding politics being discussed on this board I personally have no problem with it provided people with opposing views do not start insulting each other. Stumpy has appropriately moved most political discussions to the politics thread which I feel is a good idea. I think most of what has been said on that thread is perfectly acceptable within an open forum however I do have one issue. Most of the threads are from a conservative perspective, I posted a comment on this thread asking if there were any non Republicans who wished to post within this thread as I remember members on this board from the past claiming to be democrats. I was disappointed to be told that this was an inappropriate question to ask and that next I would be asking what religion people were. One of the reasons I asked the question was to try and ensure non Republicans did not feel isolated or that the ‘Politics’ thread was a no go area and I’m sure most of the main contributors to this topic such as Stumpy would have no problem debating with democrats etc. I felt the response to my comment represented a discomfort within the board, indicating that if a non conservative joined in the discussion the would be ostracised, debates would get heated and nasty and the board would degenerate into complete chaos. I think that this is completely unfair and I believe from my experience on the board that most members are mature and intelligent enough to accept people with different personal and political perspectives.

With regards to Arthur’s post I am in general disagreement with much of the general content on it. I do believe that there is a place on this board for discussions on past conflicts such as the second world war. If we are to stay away from such discussions on this board then we are in danger of loosing grasp of reality and the board is in danger of being deemed as irrelevant and dull. I would be offended if comments were banned relating to current or ex service personnel and their experiences of the military.

I like Roland have had difficulties with the board in the past but I have tried to resolve them, Roland has made to effort what so ever to inform the board as to why he left. His last post gave no indication that he was having problems with the board and it seems that he has ‘thrown the toys out off the pram’ on this issue. He has refused to accept that this is the largest online site relating to John Wayne, he refuses to give the board any credit for the way it has evolved, he has dismissed the comments from members of the board to be of an insufficient intellect, and he is quite adamant that he wont return. I would like Roland to return to the board as I believe that he has left a void that has never quite been filled, however I wont beg him to come back and maybe its time to draw a line under Roland and other members who have left the board and move on.

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Very good post, Rob.

Thanks Jim

I tried to be as even handed as possible and above all honest, I know my post will not please some on this board but I didn't purposely intend to offend anyone.

:agent:

I didn't purposely intend to offend anyone.

We never do, Rob. I think our biggest problem is that we're incapable of dissembling. :biggrin: :biggrin:

Hi Jim you could be right.

With regards to this topic its now over to the moderators for them to address the concerns etc that have been raised by several members of the board and to take whatever action they deem appropriate.

:agent:

Im always a day late in the ability to reply but, great postings from all of you--all very well said.

Dittos to EJ, Chester & The Mrs, Stumpy, Arthur and Robbie; in particular.

Interesting thread. Everyone has posted valid points of views, buy as someone before has pointed out earlier you have to have a thick shin when your interacting with others in a very public forum. I take very few thing personally, and can generally take it or leave it.

All I can say is I hate to have anyone leave the site over bad feelings, but at the end of the day, leaving might be the best thing for both the member and the rest of the board.

All I can say is I hate to have anyone leave the site over bad feelings, but at the end of the day, leaving might be the best thing for both the member and the rest of the board.

Wholeheartedly agree, Kevin. If someone is such a prima donna and so thin-skinned that they can't accept some of the things that are said on a public forum, because the opinions don't agree with their own, then they need to seek satisfaction elsewhere.

I did that very thing recently - as a political junkie, I sought out and joined a forum to argue politics (one of my favorite pastimes :wink_smile: ) but it soon sunk in that most of the people on there were much farther left on the political scale than I am, so I left.

Believe me, folks, when I say that there are a lotta people in this world, and even in this country, who hate the United States and everything it stands for. I got so damned mad on that forum that I thought it best that I leave, for the sake of my blood pressure if nothing else.

Hi Kevin

I agree with you in general but I do feel that this topic has raised some rather important issues that should be addressed.

1. I do believe that Roland was correct and that the board does need to review its treatment of the John Wayne family. Although I do believe that constructive criticism is good I do feel that all the facts are not always given on the board therefore maybe its time to readdress the balance.

2. Inactive moderators, I personally feel that its unfair that 'Reasr' and 'LibertyV' are classed as moderators while contributing nothing to the board when all other moderators have made huge contributions to the board both via moderating duties and via posts. Is it not time that these two members were replaced are simply relieved of their duties?

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Just doing some browsing, boredom I guess, out of our 887 members, about 350 have been inactive for over 2 years, at least none of those are moderators. If we were to purge those members, is it possible to get a shoutbox on the main page or could that be done without purging? I use them elsewhere and thought it might be nice if a few people are online at the same time they could say HI in a shoutbox. Just an idea...


This could be more of a suggestion so move if necessary. What do you all think?

Well it seems the members have been wondering about others who have not posted for sometime, so I feel I should get you up to date on why I haven't been around lately.
Now this is a long story, so I will try to trim it up to not waste a lot of members time.
In 2004 ( yep this goes back that far) we suffered a fire at the homestead, lost the barn, the big shed, a few other outbuildings and almost lost the house. We were away visiting relatives when the chore boy I had to feed the horses and check on things, was driving past and noticed the blaze. The other two neighbors who can see our place were at a wedding, so it was sometime before it was discovered.
Sad day, besides the structural damages, worst part of all was losing the 15 month old Beau. Had named him after Duke's horse. Was born X-MAS day 2002. Anyway had insurance to replace the buildings and material things, nobody was home so no one was hurt obviously, but you can't replace a animal, and this little fella had a personality. It took sometime to rebuild, and I tried doing it all myself. Forgot to mention lost the computer too.
Well after rebuilding, went back to work like there would be no tommorrow. Jump ahead now to October 2005, I was on my way home on my motorcycle when 5 deer decided to run in front of me, and check my defensive driving skills. Unfortunately hit three of them and have been re-habbing and getting back to some kind of normalcy. That in itself has taken about 14 months. The time since then has been getting back in the swing of things you might say.
I apologize to the other members who were used to seeing me post here, but you were all never far from my thoughts. Alot of the real newcomers have realized by now "THAT THIS IS A FAMILY. A FRATERNITY DEDICATED TO THE MEMORY OF A MAN WE ALL CHERISH.
As I said earlier you were all never far from my thoughts. Would like to say I hope you and yours are all fine, and that your doctor is going hungry.
It feels good to be back here, and though some may have thought we rode off into the sunset (and we darn near did). We are God willing back to stay .

Regards
Ethan

Ethan,

Wow, that is some story you shared!! We're glad to have you back in the fold, and sorry to hear of so many troubles, but happy you've made it through this far.

Thanks for filling us in, and welcome back!!

Chester :newyear: and the Mrs. :angel1:

Hi Ethan

Glad to see you back after enough problems to try a saint.

I think this puts it all into perspective.

Once again I hope that everything is now ok.

Regards

Arthur

Hi Ethan

Sorry to hear about your troubles and hope things goe well for you from now on.

Best


Mike

Damn Ethan... 5 deer and you hit 3. The odds were certainly not in your favor that day. Being from South Dakota and now in West Central Illinois I've hit a few deer in my life along with some ring-neck pheasants and various predators. Just glad your around for the big event next month. We'll post plenty of photos for ya in case you can't come.

Sorry to say though that my doctor makes a bundle off me and my insurance every year. But that's the price of getting old. Maybe some satisfaction in that they have to write these big fat checks for malpractice insurance every month. I think my doctor told me once he pays over $200,000 a year for his.

Stay well and welcome back.

Hi Ethan, sorry for all the problems you had, but I am glad things are now definately looking up for you and the family. And I thought I had troubles???

Thank you to all for your kind thoughts and caring. Have to admit that even though it has been a tough time, I unfortunately like you, have seen others who seem to have it alot tougher. And it never fails to hit me to thank the man upstairs for his blessings, " WHILE THINKING THERE BUT FOR THE GRACE OF GOD GO I "!!!!!!!!!
Again THANK YOU for your kind thoughts!!

Regards
Ethan

Just doing some browsing, boredom I guess, out of our 887 members, about 350 have been inactive for over 2 years, at least none of those are moderators. If we were to purge those members, is it possible to get a shoutbox on the main page or could that be done without purging? I use them elsewhere and thought it might be nice if a few people are online at the same time they could say HI in a shoutbox. Just an idea...


This could be more of a suggestion so move if necessary. What do you all think?

350 members inactive out of a possible 887 does not bode good for the board. It seems very strange that when members of the board are contacted they do return with a few brief posts and then disappear again, is there a reason for this?

I still believe that inactive moderators is an issue that needs to be dealt with. It looks very bad for the board when 2 out of its 6 moderators have all but left the board with out ever making much of a contribution particulary Liberty V who has a whopping 30 posts and has not been on the messageboard for some years. I know if I was an onlooker and realised that one third of the moderators have not partisicpated on the board for several years, I would be of the opinion that the board was dead in the water. I have never heard any explanation either as to why these two moderators have left the board, if there is a valid reason that could be classified as extenuating circumstances otherwise I believe their positions as moderators has run its course.

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350 members inactive out of a possible 887 does not bode good for the board. It seems very strange that when members of the board are contacted they do return with a few brief posts and then disappear again, is there a reason for this?
Robbie,

Just from general observation over the past couple of years, I would have to say that less than half of the members inactive is not necessarily reason for concern. Some people join in order to access the search feature, which I believe is not available to unregistered guests. Some have one question, and when that is answered, they have no reason to return. Some folks realize that as much as they love hanging out here, they may not have the time to do that and take care of the rest of their lives, especially if they work full time or are full time students, or have families that need time and attention. If you see us drifting off at times, it's not lack of interest, but the demands of life outside the computer.

As to your thoughts on the moderators who seem inactive, I think it best for Kevin to respond to that, as he is the owner/administrator of the message board. Personally, I don't see what difference it makes, as long as the board is being moderated sufficiently, that some are less active. BTW, has anyone heard from Keith? He's been gone for awhile recently - we hope everything is OK.

Dakota Surfer, can you tell us more about a "shout box"? I haven't heard of that before, but it sounds interesting.

Chester :newyear:

I'm on a lot of different boards and most of them need moderators... this one seems to run along pretty well by itself. We don't have a bunch of young unruly teenagers getting nasty so except for the occasional wrong post placement this board seems to be fairly disciplined. Although if you do have Mods that have been gone that long they should be retired.


I used to moderate a board for some 28,000 members where 5% of them were active. That's pretty normal for BT site boards. Maybe we need a purging and a membership drive? :ohmy:

In answer to your question chester... a shoutbox is sort of a real time messaging area. You can post and it will simultaniously be shown in the shout box. People use them to chat, ask questions or just say Hi...

It's like going to a chat room like IRC or MSN without leaving the forum. Pretty decent tool and is used on a lot of sites.

Robbie,

Just from general observation over the past couple of years, I would have to say that less than half of the members inactive is not necessarily reason for concern. Some people join in order to access the search feature, which I believe is not available to unregistered guests. Some have one question, and when that is answered, they have no reason to return. Some folks realize that as much as they love hanging out here, they may not have the time to do that and take care of the rest of their lives, especially if they work full time or are full time students, or have families that need time and attention. If you see us drifting off at times, it's not lack of interest, but the demands of life outside the computer.

As to your thoughts on the moderators who seem inactive, I think it best for Kevin to respond to that, as he is the owner/administrator of the message board. Personally, I don't see what difference it makes, as long as the board is being moderated sufficiently, that some are less active. BTW, has anyone heard from Keith? He's been gone for awhile recently - we hope everything is OK.

Dakota Surfer, can you tell us more about a "shout box"? I haven't heard of that before, but it sounds interesting.
Chester :newyear:

Chester

I feel to an extent that you have missed the point that I was trying to make.

Beyond argument the board is well moderated and this is not in dispute. However moderators are supposed to set some sort of an example and when there is a situation when one third of the moderators on a messageboard who have made minimal contributions to the board as a whole and have all but left the board over the past number of years, I believe that this sets a poor example. I am particularly bewildered as to why these two were ever made moderators as they have certainly never (at least to my knowledge) carried out any moderating duties.

In addition to this I feel that another cull would be in order to erase all members of the board who have been registered for two months or more and have not made any posts, this would free up user names and give a truer reflection as to how many members actually exist on this board.

Above are some of the simple things on this board that need to be sorted out before future suggestions are considered and implemented.

Regarding Keith I think he's probably taking a well-deserved break from the board as setting up a page for each of John Wayne’s movies must have been an exhausting task.

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Chester

I feel to an extent that you have missed the point that I was trying to make.

Beyond argument the board is well moderated and this is not in dispute. However moderators are supposed to set some sort of an example and when there is a situation when one third of the moderators on a messageboard who have made minimal contributions to the board as a whole and have all but left the board over the past number of years, I believe that this sets a poor example. I am particularly bewildered as to why these two were ever made moderators as they have certainly never (at least to my knowledge) carried out any moderating duties.

In addition to this I feel that another cull would be in order to erase all members of the board who have been registered for two months or more and have not made any posts, this would free up user names and give a truer reflection as to how many members actually exist on this board.

Above are some of the simple things on this board that need to be sorted out before future suggestions are considered and implemented.

Regarding Keith I think he's probably taking a well-deserved break from the board as setting up a page for each of John Wayne’s movies must have been an exhausting task.

:agent:


The moderators in question have thier reasons for not posting or visiting. LibertyV semi-retired so to speak, and has had reasons for not spending time here. REASR has been involved in the JW community almost forever and has run a Yahoogroup community for almost 10 years. REASR helped here early on to help establish this site.

As for the pruning of members here I see no reason to prune members and certainly not for not being active in 2 months. We have pruned members that haven't visited in 2 or more years and that should be the cut off. A girl name jen was gone almost 2 years, and I'm glad we didn't remove her account.

I only brought up the purging in case there was interest in a shoutbox and space was needed on the server to implement it. I never see anyone in the chat room and a shoutbox is more easily accessible and viewable. Just a thought...

Hi All

Not much to say here as it has been pretty much covered.

Also, all sites once established tend to have 5% to 10% active membership at any time. The only thing as members that we can do is make this web site interesting and inviting with a wide range of threads and posts.

Moderators, I have found come in three kinds micro manage, do nothing and macro manage.

The 1st category are everywhere all the time and tend to cause the most conflict , The second category set a site up then get bored or find they havent the time so you can guess what happens. The third category tend to
develop the site and move it in the direction of the interest of members.

They are there but not there if you get my gist. A bit like a navigator who takes the wheel when required or a builder who sees a development need.

In regards to moderation of this site I think it is pretty well managed and I havent had any experiences that cause concerns or gripes. Trust me you don't want to be a moderator I have been there and its a treat to be a member. Mind you on this forum the members are very well behaved!!

I know of a forum which is a bit like Bates Motel once you join you never leave although a number of members have definitely passed on and will have great trouble posting.

In regard, to members death, expulsion or a determined period of inactivity should be the factors for culling members. I know a lot of members of forums who rarely post for a variety of reasons but are frequent vistors to those sites to cancel their membership would send out the wrong signals.


Mike

By reading the last page or so of posts, I don't believe I can add much to the ground that has already been covered. However I don't think a member should be dismissed solely because of time not posting. If you take my situation, I was inactive for almost 2 1/2 years, but that was attributed to circumstances beyond my control.
I think it could be entirely possible that some members do visit WITHOUT logging in. For reasons that are their own, they could be as simple as just not having enough time to post and merely wish to see what is going on with the board. It doesn't make them any less of a fan, solely because of not logging in.
As Duke said in Eldorado "THINK ABOUT THAT" ! ! ! !
Just a thought.

Regards
Ethan

Like others mentioned about being a moderator on other sites. I am on two militaria collecting sites (quit two others) and also on two history sites now only as a participant instead of a moderator. For me, simply not enough time in the day to keep active on all of them. This site is one I try to get on daily--can't on Sundays though.

I don't think its a lack of interest on some peoples part--just taking a break of sorts. I did so from two history sites for 18 months. Site owner asked me back as a moderator but I said only as a participant. Now if I did own a computer, I might go back to moderating on the sites I used to do it on.

I doubt i'll ever be asked to become a Mod here, which is OK as I would rather be just "a little Indian."

Moderating on a forum of this caliber is not as tasking as moderating on a BT site of 40,000 - 50,000 members, believe me. About 5% of our members are active in the forums and are always asking about problems with BT software, router/modem problems, firewalls, rar'd files and so many other things. I've love moderating on a forum like this, I'd probably be able to sleep easier at night.

Right now I'm a forum moderator supervisor so it's not that bad, my title is an Administrator and all I have to do is keep the other Mods happy and make sure they know what to tell the members. But I'm about to give up that job with everything I have planned this summer I just don't have the time.

Moderating here would be fun but I do feel a Moderator should be active, informative and help as much as possible. Kevin has to have a reason for keeping inactive moderators, he owns the site, the option is his. Personally I do feel though that to look good to new members the less inactive members we have the better. Especially if we're trying to gain any kind of status with certain people or companies that may be prospective sponsors.

I am glad to be a member and will be here for a long time no matter what.

Moderating on a forum of this caliber is not as tasking as moderating on a BT site of 40,000 - 50,000 members, believe me. About 5% of our members are active in the forums and are always asking about problems with BT software, router/modem problems, firewalls, rar'd files and so many other things. I've love moderating on a forum like this, I'd probably be able to sleep easier at night.

Right now I'm a forum moderator supervisor so it's not that bad, my title is an Administrator and all I have to do is keep the other Mods happy and make sure they know what to tell the members. But I'm about to give up that job with everything I have planned this summer I just don't have the time.

Moderating here would be fun but I do feel a Moderator should be active, informative and help as much as possible. Kevin has to have a reason for keeping inactive moderators, he owns the site, the option is his. Personally I do feel though that to look good to new members the less inactive members we have the better. Especially if we're trying to gain any kind of status with certain people or companies that may be prospective sponsors.

I am glad to be a member and will be here for a long time no matter what.


What BT site do you mod on? I must say that my time is abit tight at times with family activities and all. I also, run a U2 BT site, so I know where your coming from DakotaSurfer :stunned:

For the uninitiated, when you are talking BT you are talking Bit torrent, right?

Yes BT = Bit torrent

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bittorrent

I only brought up the purging in case there was interest in a shoutbox and space was needed on the server to implement it. I never see anyone in the chat room and a shoutbox is more easily accessible and viewable. Just a thought...

I have been thinking of going to a shoutbox and dumping the chat room, and putting on the home page. Now that I have the vB going that can be looked into.

A shoutbox would be awesome... as far as the BT site, don't mean to sound all CIA but it's a closed private invite only site and it's against our rules to even mention it's name in another forum of any kind. Even our url is private. Others that I can mention that I am active on are BitMeTV (Uploader) and TL (VIP). Plus a couple others that are also closed & private. BitMeTV is the one that I have created several category icons for.

I do most of my supervising late night. If you check you'll see me on here real late. I''m usually elsewhere checking PM's, answering questions and so on. Back when I was just a Mod I was too busy to do anything else but now that I just supervise I have more time. But with my disability, things I have planned, I have trained my successor and am stepping down next month. These late nights are too much anymore. I've been doing BT for more than 3 years. Enough is enough... now I just have fun!

Though I'm coming a bit late to the discussion, I'd like to share a couple of thoughts regarding the topic.

First of all Ethan, I'm sorry to hear of the crosses you have been carrying of late and I'm glad to see you back with us. I think Ethan's situation serves to help us realize that as much as we all enjoy this board, there are times when life situations prevent our participation. I appreciate the general approach towards inactive members the moderators have taken in allowing them to still stay on. We are about honoring the Duke here and I think one of his greatest qualities was the ability to reach people where ever they happened to be in life. We need to foster that virtue on the board and not be snooty about participation being the deciding point of whether a member can stay on or not.

Second, the moderators on this board do the best job of any I've ever seen. They walk a fine line between ensuring an environment of open discourse and respectful tone and they do a great job of it overall. It's a thankless job and I appreciate their efforts!

That said, we need to retain the ability to have open, frank and respectful discussions. This was a hallmark of John Wayne and needs to continue to be a hallmark of this board.

We also need to remember that although the Duke didn't agree with many, perhaps most, of the political and ideological views of those he had to work with, he was still a gentleman towards them, unless they were just genuine horses asses in which case all bets were off.

Honest candor tempored with civility served the Duke well in his life and will get us far as a board that continues to honor his memory.

Just my thoughts...

Well said, T-Bone -
Cheers - Jay:beer:

Hi

Honest candor tempored with civility

What a fantastic way to sum up what this board should be about. T Bone's sentence should be inscribed in latin and used as a guiding star for this board

regards

arthur

I was reading over the last two pages, and I have to say that I whole heartedly agree with Robbie. And this too

arthurarnell

Hi

Honest candor tempored with civility

What a fantastic way to sum up what this board should be about. T Bone's sentence should be inscribed in latin and used as a guiding star for this board

regards

arthur

Speaking of "missing" members, does anyone know what happened to smokey, Bek, or kilo 6?

I wanted to post a reply to this topic days ago although due to work etc I have not had the time.

Kevin

I think you missed the point that I was trying to make in an earlier post regarding inactive members. I was referring to members who haven't posted at all, therefore I believe that if a person joins this messageboard and after two months of being a member they still haven't posted I believe that their membership should be removed.

You highlighted the scenario of 'A girl named Jen', I never for a moment suggested deleting the account of someone who has racked up 200+ posts, and while its disappointing that she rarely posts anymore I still believe her membership status of this board should remain.

Regarding inactive moderators I understand the point you are making but it is a bad reflection of the board if these members don't contribute and or have left the board. I know Reasr has popped up within the last couple of days after a long absent with a three word post, I however deem this as completely unsatisfactory.

Maybe it would be more appropriate due to the work they have done setting up the board to remove their moderating responsibilities and to grant them special membership such as 'Founding Member' or 'Honourary Member'.

I hope this post has presented my points of view a little better than my earlier post did.

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I wanted to post a reply to this topic days ago although due to work etc I have not had the time.

Kevin

I think you missed the point that I was trying to make in an earlier post regarding inactive members. I was referring to members who haven't posted at all, therefore I believe that if a person joins this messageboard and after two months of being a member they still haven't posted I believe that their membership should be removed.

You highlighted the scenario of 'A girl named Jen', I never for a moment suggested deleting the account of someone who has racked up 200+ posts, and while its disappointing that she rarely posts anymore I still believe her membership status of this board should remain.

Regarding inactive moderators I understand the point you are making but it is a bad reflection of the board if these members don't contribute and or have left the board. I know Reasr has popped up within the last couple of days after a long absent with a three word post, I however deem this as completely unsatisfactory.

Maybe it would be more appropriate due to the work they have done setting up the board to remove their moderating responsibilities and to grant them special membership such as 'Founding Member' or 'Honourary Member'.

I hope this post has presented my points of view a little better than my earlier post did.

:agent:


Hi Robbie,

I must have mis-understood, I though you where thinking of removing members who simply haven't posted in a while, post count didn't matter.

In the past I have removed members that where inactive with no posts for 2 years, but I may look at something alittle more agressive. I appreciate your input as always and your concern for the bettering of the community.

I say we revolt and take down all the mods and Kevin too!!!

Who is with me???




































Just Kidding!!!!!!!!!

Just wondering... Anyone heard from Chance lately?

:beer:
Mutiny Mr Christian!! Cat of Nine Tails required!!!

No Rations of Rum Tonite!!!

Just wondering... Anyone heard from Chance lately?

I heard from him about a week or so ago (email) but was nothing to do with the forums. Graham was nice enough to email me a copy of his Lone Ranger painting. Im hoping to save some money up to buy it from him if it is not sold by then?

Boy howdy, get busy and don't log in or post for awhile, and folks start looking for yer scalp! I remember a time when if someone was missing for awhile, folks got concerned and started looking for em. Kinda like a family does. I sure hope that spirit of family isn't lost here on the board. I personally think that's what makes this the best board on the web. I know that I get pretty busy some times and can't always visit much less post, but I still keep in contact with some of the members, either via mail, email or telephone, but I still enjoy visiting the board, and even throwing my 2 cents into a discussion when I have the time. That's enough for this years rant.
Best to all my friends and family here on the best board on the web,
Colorado Bob

Hey Guys don't remove me. I have been busy. I had my legs waxed! I got married and divorced before I became a widower! I thought about a sex change but change my mind and had my cat done that way. Couldn't tell the time so I miss the great chat time here at the board, oh, that was somewhere else.......Did I miss the Duke's birthday?

Cheers Hondo Duke Lane :cool:

Dukes Birthday doesn't happen for yet another month so you are good there.

Glad to see you are all better Hondo LOL:stunned:

Colorado, HDL, glad to see you all here again. I was afraid you all had won a State Lottery or something and decided that we "peons" just did not deserve your attention any longer ;-D Glad to see I was wrong again and guess i'll have to call you up more than once in awhile :-D

i everyone sorry i havent been here for a while but i have been studing :book: for my Dip in Retail Management. have just about 3 weeks to go :hyper: and i will be finished have 1 assignment left to do. :wink_smile: for cert 4 i got 5 Distinctions :thumbs_up: 2 Credits :thumbs_up: and 4 passes (these were just pass or fail) :thumbs_up: havent had any marks back yet for Dip level. have Grad Cem in July :chickawow: if i get a good pic :camera: will post it for you to see.

hope to be back more frequently with in the month and then i will be running fast to catch up with you all.

cheers smokey

Hey Guys don't remove me. I have been busy. I had my legs waxed! I got married and divorced before I became a widower! I thought about a sex change but change my mind and had my cat done that way. Couldn't tell the time so I miss the great chat time here at the board, oh, that was somewhere else.......Did I miss the Duke's birthday?

Cheers Hondo Duke Lane :cool:


Sounds like Michael Jackson's diary... rotflmao

Ohh Hondo... TMI! TMI! :stunned:

Wow, how did I miss that post Hondo!! If its real its not all that funny, well parts of it are but if its not real I am laughing my butt off!!

Hi Smokey, glad your studies are going well. We are all in the same spots that we have been in for the last couple years plus there are some new faces as well. Look forward to you joining in again when you have more free time.

I remember a time when if someone was missing for awhile, folks got concerned and started looking for em. Kinda like a family does. I sure hope that spirit of family isn't lost here on the board. I personally think that's what makes this the best board on the web.
Best to all my friends and family here on the best board on the web,
Colorado Bob
AMEN, Bob, amen! I couldn't have said it better myself!

It sure was good to see Hondo and smokey recently! smokey, best of luck on your final exams - we look forward to hanging out with you again, soon!

It's been good to see Saddle Tramp posting again, too.

Chester :newyear:

I know it's purt' near impossible to have a reunion or meeting with everyone here, but ya know, it sure would be nice to meet some of you folks. I know I'd really like to meet Kevin, and Stumpy, Hondo, Ethan, Ringo, Mr. and Mrs. Chester, Senta, Baby Sis, and a bunch of others. Especially Mr. William T. "Chili Bill" Brooks. I just love his web site. Next to here, it's the best place to get info on John Wayne. I could (and do) spend hours there.
Colorado Bob

Wow, long time no see everyone!

Everything seemed to catch up with me at one time. School, work and the traineeship I'm currently doing. School's settled down now, thank goodness. Started the cattle shows not to long ago, around 3 weeks ago, most of the time I've been away I was working getting 7/8 head ready for the shows. And the traineeship - Certificate II in Agriculture(Beef Cattle Production), I have to go away to do the theory for that, which is around 1000km from where I live. But everything has decided to lay low for a little while :P apart from the shows, I've had one every weekend for the last 3 weeks, and I have another this weekend, and next weekend, then I get a week's break or so.

So glad to be back though!

Hi Bek

Glad to see you back and good that everything is going well.


Regards

Arthur

I know it's purt' near impossible to have a reunion or meeting with everyone here, but ya know, it sure would be nice to meet some of you folks. I know I'd really like to meet Kevin, and Stumpy, Hondo, Ethan, Ringo, Mr. and Mrs. Chester, Senta, Baby Sis, and a bunch of others. Especially Mr. William T. "Chili Bill" Brooks. I just love his web site. Next to here, it's the best place to get info on John Wayne. I could (and do) spend hours there.
Colorado Bob

It would be nice to meet a few of you... at least some one us may meet in Winterset and Chester may meet some at his celebration out west. To get people together would be nearly impossible. I do remember back in the day when the Internet's main chat room was a place call WBS Chat. Many different rooms like thirtysomething, plolice, military, etc. I met my wife in Thirtysomething chat. The same group set up a party in Vegas and had a pretty good turnout. I had a business to run but some of them flew from both coasts. But it's a nice idea Bob.

Welcome back Bek. Very glad to see you back!!

Bek - welcome back. We've been missing you here!
Cheers - Jay:beer:

g'day everyone just to let you know have finished at long last, no results through yet but have been told that i have got at least 2 distinctions was aiming for 10 will know soon. still have to have the grad cermony. sorry i havent been here earlier but after the last few weeks and long nights looking up different laws to do with workplace health & ocupation, fire regulations, and other such things just could not face looking at the computer screen had to have a break to not only catch up with sleep but spend time with my little bloke. he has been such a treasure throughout all of this that i felt he needed to spend some time with me so we have been doing things like playing on his playstation and reading just such mundain things but so rewarding.

will hopefully catch up with a few of you in the chat room one day soon
all the best to you all

cheers smokey

Hi Smokey

Well done on your exams and Welcome back to the Forum

Mike

So glad to have you back, Smokey. Glad to hear you got through your studies OK and the little bloke is doing well.
Cheers - Jay:beer:

Welcome back Smokey!

Does anyone know whatever happened to joekiddlouischama? I always liked to read what he had to say.

Welcome back, Smokey, glad to hear your studies went well, you'll have to describe them to us in more detail.

Chester :newyear: and the Mrs :angel1:

Hi Smokey

Welcome back glad your studies went well its been a long time.

Regards

Arthur

Hey Smokey,

We should did miss you and glad you are doing so well. Love to hear how things are going. Don't stay away so long. It is not the same without our number 1 gal. Talk soon.

Cheers :cool: Mike a.k.a. Hondo

hi chester & mrs c

well to give you a quick run down on what i've been doing i have done work on profiling a retail market, this is where we had to come up with a concept for a shop and research how we would go about setting it up. this was done in pairs and with my partner we designed the layout of our store from front to back, what type of flooring we were to have, fittings for the store, uniforms for the staff, who we would get stock from. the store we desided on was a bookstore with a coffee shop in it as a complete business, it was decided that she would be incharge of the book side of the business and i would be incharge of the coffee shop side, we consulted each other on everything. we had to find out about suppliers for the business. we also had to look at the laws and regs for the area that we had choosen to set up the business, we had to profile our market base, how to promote the store through advertising, recruit staff and training that they would need as well as the new IR laws about employment, we also had to know all the laws about food handling and storage as well as fire regs like how many exits and sprinklers and such for the floor space used. for this course i also had to know how to build displays of products to make them appealing to the public walking past the windows, i also had to establish an understandiing of stock levels, the life cycle of products, security systems for stores as well as security for staff, how to build relationships with customers to encourage them to use the store, we also did some on financial management to get an understanding of the varible and fixed expenses of the business. we also had to find out what types of leaders there were and how effective they are in the workplace to do this we were asked to interview our bosses ( this is where i got one of my D's), we also had to develope and deliver training sessions, we had to analyse consumer behaviour so that we could design a shop layout for hotspots and cold spots. then we went into the other areas like fostering innovation in the workplace, and how to lead teams, managering people in the workplace and all that entails. as you can see it was complexed at times but the business we designed earned my partner and myself a Distinction that particular one ended un being about 30 pages long this included 8 appendixs.

hope this has helped you to understand what i have been up to for the last 18 months

cheers smokey

Does anyone know what happened to kilo 6?

Just wondering, as I haven't seen him around for a while.

Me either for that matter.

Wow, smokey, we are SO proud of you! What a big project! What a commitment - 18 months - but you learned so much, and worked so hard!!

It's great to see you back!

Chester :newyear: and the Mrs. :angel1:

Does anyone know what happened to kilo 6?

Just wondering, as I haven't seen him around for a while.
Actually, we've been wondering the same thing. We've sent a few emails but gotten no response. Has ANYone heard from Murray??

Chester :newyear:

Thanks for raining the flag ejgreen.

I hadn't thought about kilo not being around for a while till you mentioned it.

Hi Smokey

Likewise glad to see you back and great that you did so well.



Regards

Arthur

Has anyone seen Baron? I sure do miss not hearing from him. Just wondering.

Cheers :cool:

Did anyone ever find out what happened to kilo 6?

Just wondering.

Hi E.J, nope but, I just gor some news from Cindy (Cindyrella)

Cindy sent me an email and wanted me to tell everyone hello for her---including GT ;-))

Cindy is still in Utah, and does not know when she will come back here. Also, with this contact, means she does now have internet service. ;-))

[quote=The Ringo Kid;62745]

including GT ;-))

Now that hurts.:cry2:

Did anyone ever find out what happened to kilo 6?

Just wondering.
Here we are a little over six months later, and I tried sending another email to Murray (aka kilo 6). This time, the email bounced back. That didn't happen back in June of last year, I just didn't hear back from him.

Too bad . . . .

Chester :newyear:

Anyone heard from Chance or Ethan Edwards aka Keith?

:agent:

[quote=The Ringo Kid;62745]

including GT ;-))

Now that hurts.:cry2:

Heh heh, sorry bout that ;-)) :teeth_smile:

Has anyone seen Baron? I sure do miss not hearing from him. Just wondering.

Cheers :cool:
I tried sending an email to him this morning, and it bounced back.

Bummer :yeaahh:.

Chester :newyear:

Here we are a little over six months later, and I tried sending another email to Murray (aka kilo 6). This time, the email bounced back. That didn't happen back in June of last year, I just didn't hear back from him.

Too bad . . . .

Chester :newyear:
We don't know any details yet, but we were pleasantly suprised this afternoon when we signed on and saw who but . . . kilo6 (aka Murray) had made a couple of posts!

Welcome back, Murray!

Chester :newyear:

I have been absent due to health reasons but things are good now and please accept my regret at not being in touch. There have been a few changes to the board in the year plus and it's intersting to learn about them. Murray

Hello Murray and welcome back!!!

Gald you are feeling better. Hope to see you around more in the near future.

I have been absent due to health reasons but things are good now and please accept my regret at not being in touch. There have been a few changes to the board in the year plus and it's intersting to learn about them. Murray

Glad your doing some better, hope to see you around the old campfire more often, welcome back.


Kevin