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Hondo Duke Lane
February 15th, 2003, 06:13 PM
Are There Any Duke Sites of Any DVD, etc. releases?

There are announcements of two Duke movies on April 28th on DVD. "Big Jake", and "Rio Lobo". It would be great if there was a site for Duke movie releases for our information.

Hondo

baron von Rassilon
February 16th, 2003, 12:52 AM
Greetings!
New to the forum liked to say yo!
I have a list of John Wayne Movies announced to be released on DVD for this year so far:
Operation Pacific 5/13/03
Cahill: U.S. Marshall 6/3/03
Chisum 6/6/03
Big Jake 4/29/03
Rio Lobo 4/29/03
These dates are subject to change, but I find that they are pretty accurate.
This is the weebsite that I usually find release dates on DVD Price Search (http://www.dvdpricesearch.com/cgi-bin/dvdhtml2). THey have a new release list every few days. I hope this helps all of you!
On more thing, I really hate region codes on DVDs. Circus World & Back to Bataan has been released for European DVD players in French region 2 (I think) for a year now, and just a couple of months ago, Fort Apache has been released for England on Region 2. :angry:
Anyway, hav' a day!

baron von Rassilon
March 9th, 2003, 12:56 AM
:D More John Wayne movies have been announced for release on DVD!

The Big Trail 6/3/03
The Comancheros 6/3/03
North to Alaska (My fav!) 6/3/03
The Undefeated 6/3/03

I don't know about you, but I'm still waiting for "High and the Mighty" to be released on DVD in Widescreen. It shouldn't be to long, maybe within a year or two.

Well, I just bought "Flame of the Barbary Coast" on DVD. I've never seen this pic, so its time to get the popcorn and enjoy!
Take care!

baron von Rassilon
February 8th, 2005, 12:05 AM
I came across this today, "BLood Alley", "McQ", "Tall in the Saddle", "The Train Robbers", and "The Sea Chase" is to be released 05-03-2005! I hope this is some good news as these are some of my favorite movies! Here is the only thing I have on the news: DVD Price Search (http://www.dvdpricesearch.com/cgi-bin/dvdhtml2). This info will be up for roughly three days!

I'll see if there is any other confirmation (websites) on this. I hope this brings some new enjoyment for all of you! :jump:

erscolo
March 31st, 2005, 08:06 PM
I already have my preorder in for the set, and look forward to watching all five of them in May 2005.

Roger.

falc04
May 3rd, 2005, 12:22 PM
Just picked up this box set at my local Sam's Club for only $32.47. Can't wait to sit down this weekend, and spend some time with the Duke!

General Sterling Price
May 3rd, 2005, 12:28 PM
Amazon has it for $35, so it looks like Sam's club is the better deal...

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detai...?v=glance&s=dvd (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0007P0XDC/qid=1115141164/sr=1-2/ref=sr_1_2/002-6329925-9036003?v=glance&s=dvd)

chester7777
May 4th, 2005, 12:19 AM
I haven't had a chance to look for it at Costco yet, but I have to say that Sam's Club has Deep Discount DVD beat (that's rare).

Now if there was only a Sam's Club around here . . . .

Hondo Duke Lane
May 4th, 2005, 11:33 PM
What are you talking about, Chester? I ordered my DVD from DeepDiscountDVD and payed $29.95 for the box set and not pay any shipping. The only problem is that I haven't gotton the movies yet. I recieved an e-mail confirmation on Tuesday that the movie has been shipped, so I should get it by the weekend if not before.

I haven't seen anything beat that price.

Cheers B)

chester7777
May 5th, 2005, 01:14 AM
Hondo,

Are we talking about the same set :fear2: ?? Check HERE (http://www.deepdiscountdvd.com/dvd.cfm?itemID=WBD069230).

Maybe you got a special pre-release price or something.

Chester :newyear:

SXViper
May 5th, 2005, 01:52 PM
I was just at my local Sam's Club and the price they had was $35.47. That price that Hondo paid at DeepDVD was for a limited time only. You snooze, you loose. Oh and I lost as well. :angry: :angry:

Hondo Duke Lane
May 6th, 2005, 08:01 PM
Chester,

I made the order on March 31 and received a discount of $29.95 for the 5 disc set. If you do the figures, that's $5.99 a piece. I guess it was a pre order special. So, like my good buddy Viper said, if you snooze, you loose.

Cheers B)

chester7777
May 6th, 2005, 09:44 PM
Hondo,

-_- -_- -_- -_- -_- -_- -_- -_- . . . :headbonk:


Chester :newyear:

Hondo Duke Lane
May 8th, 2005, 11:23 PM
Got my movies yesterday, and they are great. Haven't seen all of them, but what I have seen will be a great set. Sorry that a lot of you didn't get on the $29.95 special value. Let's keep in touch on the special deals and not miss out again.

Cheers B)

erscolo
May 11th, 2005, 10:50 PM
Yes the $29.95 deal for the set of the five is a good deal. I've watched The Sea Chase and look forward to watching the other four films in DVD for the first time as well. I've seen and have them all on VHS, but the move up to DVD never hurts.

Roger.

Robhightower474
June 8th, 2006, 05:50 PM
How about Swing Out Sweet Land on DVD

How about the long version of The Alamo????? with a bonus disc of supplements that include Spirit of The Alamo????

Spirit of the Alamo is one I would especially like a clean copy of. My VHS is very tough to watch. ...but I still put it on every once in awhile because it was so good. It has Jester singing Green Leaves of Summer and some choral moments with Dimitri Tiomkin.

What great music!

Anyway those are my top picks

...Just thought of another...
An uncut Cowboys that has scenes with the Indians and the Bear!

Jay J. Foraker
June 9th, 2006, 09:43 AM
Originally posted by Robhightower474@Jun 8 2006, 05:50 PM

31995

Rob - You might check out several of the topics on "The Alamo" which describes the situation with the uncut version of the film. As I understand it, at this point, the only way a DVD could be made would be to take a second generation from the directors cut VHS tape (or laserdisc) which, in all probability, would be self-defeating.
Cheers - Jay <_<

ejgreen77
June 9th, 2006, 10:07 AM
Rob,

Jay is correct about The Alamo. In a nutshell, there was only one known copy of the Director's Cut of The Alamo in existence, and the fools at MGM destroyed it due to poor storage.

You can read the whole sickening story in these old threads:

http://www.dukewayne.com/thread624.html

http://www.dukewayne.com/thread1237.html

http://www.dukewayne.com/thread1495.html

and in these news articles:

http://www.jwayne.com/news/archives/00000028.shtml

http://www.in70mm.com/news/2002/alamo/index.htm

WaynamoJim
June 9th, 2006, 04:59 PM
Fellas, you can get a DVD copy of The Alamo Directors Cut. If you check E-bay, you can get one from Singapore for about $6. I got one a couple of years ago and the picture quality is quite good and it's done in Dolby surround. The cover art is nothing to write home about and there are no extras on it and you have to flip it to watch the whole film. they don't even have the entrance, intermission and, exit music but, like I said, picture is quite good and it's better than no DVD version at all. Also, I've got a DVD recorder and I've tried to copy my VHS copy onto a DVD and it worked. I only did a few minutes on a DVD Ram and there were no glitches from any copy guard that might be on it. The only thing is, to get everything on there, you have to use maybe three discs. that is if you want the best picture quality you can have. A DVD recorder is like a vcr, you have the different speeds at 1 hour, 2 hours, 4 hours and 8 hours. The 1 hour is the best picture quality, 2 hour is excellent and probably the best way to go, the 4 hour is still pretty good and 8 hour would be ok. If some enterprising young lad wanted to, he could make a good DVD copy using 2 discs for the movie and 1 disc for the documentary. I might even try it myself.

ZS_Maverick
November 3rd, 2006, 05:53 AM
Hey yall,

I found this on the amazon.com sight. Anyone know about this? Probably more old Lone Star Westerns edited, remastered and given different names, but I'm not sure. Anyway I thought it might be of interest. Here's the info I copied from the sight...

John Wayne in Color (Stolen Goods / GOld Strike River / An Innocent Man)

Actors: John Wayne
Format: Box set, Black & White, Closed-captioned, Color, Full Screen, Widescreen, NTSC
Language: English
Region: Unknown. Read more about region encoding and how it may affect you here.
Aspect Ratio: 1.33:1
Number of discs: 3
Rating
Studio: Legend
DVD Release Date: December 12, 2006
Run Time: 164 minutes
DVD Features:
Available Audio Tracks: English (Dolby Digital 2.1 Stereo)
Includes the films: Stolen Goods, Gold Strike River, An Innocent Man
Featurette hosted by Vincent Price
Featurette and bonus short with John Wayne and Jimmy Durante
John Wayne classic commercials, vintage film, TV rarities and trailers

ethanedwards
November 3rd, 2006, 06:11 AM
Hi,

This stunt has been pulled before,
and it just comes across as a scam.
Unknowing fans will be purchasing these 'new' titles,
unaware, that they probably have them in their collections,
already!!!

From the runtime, it looks highly likely
that they are Lone Star re-works.

falc04
November 3rd, 2006, 11:41 AM
I use to own the old 1980s colorized Lone Star films on VHS. They looked great (it was fun to see such a young John Wayne in color), but the soundtrack was way off. All the actor's voices were high-pitched and sped up. Definitely took away from some of the fun.

I would like to pruchase these 3 upcoming films, if they are not duplicates of the 1980 releases, and if they are not those 20 minute edited ones that are already out on DVD. Guess I will just wait to read some reviews of them, before plunking down the $22.

ZS_Maverick
November 3rd, 2006, 04:34 PM
Yep, I looked up the DVD title on another sight. They are Lone Star Westerns. This is the info I got on that sight about what's on the DVD
FEATURES LIST

DVD Features
Note: This 3-Disc set includes the films STOLEN GOODS aka BLUE STEEL (1934), GOLD STRIKE RIVER aka THE LUCKY TEXAN (1933), and AN INNOCENT MAN aka SAGEBRUSH TRAIL (1934).
Slipcase
Full Frame 1.33


Audio
(unspecified) English


Additional Release Material
Bonus Short "The Northwest Killer"
Featurettes 1. "Western Legends" hosted by Vincent Price
2. "The Western"
3. "Bust 'em Up!"
Trailers
TV Spots

Senta
November 4th, 2006, 04:19 AM
Anyway, it sounds interesting, to see colorized versions along with all these features included.
Regards,
Senta :rolleyes:

General Sterling Price
November 8th, 2006, 10:52 AM
I am surprised to hear that they invested in colorizing the old LoneStars. My favorite colorization job is Tall in the Saddle. Turned out pretty good.

RoughRider
November 9th, 2006, 06:29 AM
Originally posted by ZS_Maverick@Nov 3 2006, 05:34 PM
DVD Features
Note: This 3-Disc set includes the films STOLEN GOODS aka BLUE STEEL (1934), GOLD STRIKE RIVER aka THE LUCKY TEXAN (1933), and AN INNOCENT MAN aka SAGEBRUSH TRAIL (1934).


It sounds like these are the same films colorized in 1990 by Color Systems Technology and released on home video under their original titles, later with different titles under The Young Duke banner. The titles here are different, though: Blue Steel was Bandits of the Badlands; The Lucky Texan was Cowboy G-Man; and Sagebrush Trail was The Fugitive.

It's too bad Wayne's Lone Star westerns ended up in the public domain: If the copyrights were renewed we would have beautiful, unmodified prints available on DVD. Instead, they're hacked (editing, music, colorization) so that the new versions can be re-copyrighted.

Anyone who wants to see how nice these prints can look should check out the 2-disc Columbia Pictures DVD collection called Riding the Range Vols. 1 and 2. There's new music and editing, though, which I deplore. But the print quality is lovely (some better than others), sourced from either the original or early re-issue film elements owned by NTA. The DVDs also benefit from high-quality encoding. But had the films been released unmodified, bootleg copies probably would have flooded the public domain market.

I wonder if the colorized versions by CST used the same prints as the earlier black-and-whites released by Columbia? I'll poke my ever-curious nose into the answer.

RoughRider
John Wayne on DVD: A Filmography (http://www.vanc.igs.net/~roughley/john_wayne_dvd_filmography.html)

ethanedwards
November 9th, 2006, 07:05 AM
Originally posted by RoughRider@Nov 9 2006, 12:29 PM

It sounds like these are the same films colorized in 1990 by Color Systems Technology and released on home video under their original titles, later with different titles under The Young Duke banner.*


I have several of these, and whilst the colour versions
are interesting, they're also pretty lousy.
They appear to use the same print,
and some of the original sound track, and some from the
Second Sight releases
The worst thing however is Duke's voice,
what an earth have they done to it,
badly dubbed or what!!
How they can get Duke to sound like that,
when Yakima Canutt and the others sound normal,
baffles me!!!

arthurarnell
November 9th, 2006, 12:32 PM
Hi Kieth

I agree with you they were cheap and cheerful and I only bought a couple . I don't know who dubbed Waynes voice but I am convinced that it was dubbed and badly luckilly late night television screened the originals at about 2 in the morning and with the wonders of video I managed to tape the lot.
Of course these are now redundant with the DVD collections that are coming out.

Regards

Arthur

arthurarnell
November 9th, 2006, 12:37 PM
Hi

Having re-joined the Film Society I received this today and thought I'd share it with Region 2 members. I should imagine Kieth that you have seen this or maybe have them if so what are they like?


[ATTACH]1016]


Regards

Arthur

arthurarnell
November 9th, 2006, 12:39 PM
Hi

Here's the second page

[ATTACH]1017]


Regards

Arthur

SXViper
November 9th, 2006, 01:01 PM
Wouldn't matter to me Athur of there region 2. I can strip that off and make it work for all regions. How much in US is that documentary on Rio Lobo?

ethanedwards
November 9th, 2006, 02:40 PM
Hi Arthur, Todd, Rough Rider,

Arthur you took me back a few years, as I remember,
the Lone Star Westerns being screened on C4
about 8 years ago.
I will always remember like you, the VHS was ready and poised to record,
when we noticed the dog, was outside and had gone A.W.O.L.
I was so annoyed I missed setting the VHS. to record
Riders of Destiny

They of course, were the Second Sight series.

Arthur,

In answer to your question,
I am in constant touch with
David and Patrick at
The John Wayne Film Society,
and do indeed, have some of their
'Special' releases.

Generally they're pretty good, seem to be copies
of prints, obviously without,
digital re-mastering.

Shootout at Rio Lobo
I thought was very good, very entertaining,
and very amusing.
Quality fair, and acceptable

Life of Jimmy Dolan
Wyoming Outlaw
Salute
Glen Campbell Special
Salute
Arizona


Don't have these yet, but the quality
from experience, is similar to that an old cine film!
I have ordered, all but the
Glen Campbell one.

Maker of Men
I have the NTSC version,
which I purchased through the JWFS

Rookie of the Year
Fashing Spikes

I have both these from the JWFS.
They're fun, and interesting.
Quality wise,
as if they had been recorded off the TV.!!
but well worth having.

Todd
and any others interested,
here is the link, to the store,
at

John Wayne Film Society (http://www.filmcutts.com/Genres.php?ProductCategoryID=7&objName=John+Wayne+Products)

RoughRider
November 10th, 2006, 08:04 AM
Originally posted by ethanedwards@Nov 9 2006, 03:40 PM
They of course, were the Second Sight series.

What is the Second Sight series, Keith? It sounds like the British video distributor, who I'll guess had UK rights to the colorized Lone Star productions.

I've been poking my nose into John Wayne's colorized films and come up with 36 titles (excluding the Lone Stars that were re-titled and condensed to 20 minutes). Two of the Lone Stars weren't colorized: Texas Terror and Rainbow Valley. I think a few of the 1940s films were released to television only and not available on home video. But I've confirmed that all those listed below have been colorized.

If anyone sees an omission, let me know.

Riders of Destiny
Sagebrush Trail
The Lucky Texan
West of the Divide
Blue Steel
The Man from Utah
Randy Rides Alone
The Star Packer
The Trail Beyond
The Lawless Frontier
'Neath Arizona Skies
The Desert Trail
The Dawn Rider
Paradise Canyon
Winds of the Wasteland
Allegheny Uprising
Dark Command
Three Faces West
Lady from Louisiana
In Old California
Flying Tigers
A Lady Takes a Chance
War of the Wildcats
The Fighting Seabees
Tall in the Saddle
Flame of Barbary Coast
Back to Bataan
Dakota
They Were Expendable
Angel and the Badman
Fort Apache
Wake of the Red Witch
The Fighting Kentuckian
Sands of Iwo Jima
Rio Grande
The Longest Day


RoughRider
John Wayne on DVD: A Filmography (http://www.vanc.igs.net/~roughley/john_wayne_dvd_filmography.html)

ethanedwards
November 10th, 2006, 08:30 AM
Hi Rough Rider,

They Lone Star Movies,
Were released as Fox/Lorber,
and I guess, were distributed here by
Second Sight.

[ATTACH]1030]

In the case of Rainbow Valley,
that was always the odd one out,
and that was the only one, not Fox,
and or distributed by Second Sight.

I have a feeling the rights to that one,
were owned by someone totally different.

Rainbow Valley, also contains
more of the original, orchestrated soundtrack,
and not the sync, stuff that was dubbed on the others!

arthurarnell
November 10th, 2006, 12:02 PM
Hi

I bought those a year or so back they were about three for a fiver and not bad. I also bought The Three Musketeers in Tescos two volumes at a pound each.

I have Rookie of The Year on VHS bought from the John Wayne film Society and video copies of Maker of Men. The life of Jimmy Dolan I copied when it was shown on television a couple of years ago but I will buy it because I am collecting the DVDs. Arizona I have on video Likewise Shootout at Rio Lobo.
Salute was given to me by an acquaintance in Canada, and from that I acquired a copy on a computer disc, but again I will probably buy a DVD from the JW Society.

I have on various occasions advertised the Society and would repeat that it is NOT restricted to British people only. It is very cheap to join and become a member and they have deals that are quite good. It may be worth visiting their site.


Regards

Arthur

ethanedwards
November 10th, 2006, 12:23 PM
Hi Arthur,

I've now put a dedicated topic to the JWFS
in the Movie Forum,
so all our members can now acess the details

Click here
The John Wayne Film Society (http://www.dukewayne.com/showthread.php?t=3833)

RoughRider
November 10th, 2006, 03:49 PM
OK, I see, Keith. So the b&w Fox/Lorber titles were released in the UK by Second Sight. And 15 of them instead of the five that were released on DVD in North America by Columbia (Sony). Although I don't care for the modifications, generally I like the print quality--I've only seen five--so I'll obtain these from the UK. Maybe the 10 other titles were released on DVD over here, but I haven't found them; but all 15 were released on VHS by Columbia. Thanks for the insight -- I didn't know Second Sight released the Fox/Lorber Lone Stars on DVD.

As to why Rainbow Valley was excluded, I don't know for sure. It was either a rights issue or the prints in existence weren't good enough. It wasn't colorized, and I know that process requires high-quality film elements. Mind you, Texas Terror wasn't colorized either but there's a Fox/Lorber version.

RoughRider
John Wayne on DVD: A Filmography (http://www.vanc.igs.net/~roughley/john_wayne_dvd_filmography.html)

ethanedwards
November 10th, 2006, 05:19 PM
Hi Rough Rider,

Yes, all but Rainbow Valley were released, initially as VHS,
the re-released as 'three-somes'
then the same on DVD.

Rainbow, was released here on VHS
by Reel Movies International.

arthurarnell
November 11th, 2006, 03:18 AM
Hi Keith

That looks great and informative.



Regards

Arthur

arthurarnell
November 11th, 2006, 03:21 AM
Hi Todd

Sorry I am late in replying. In dollars Shoot-out at Rio lobo would work out about $25.00 Perhaps its would be cheaper to buy it in the UK.


Regards

Arthur

RoughRider
December 4th, 2006, 04:44 AM
Originally posted by ethanedwards@Nov 3 2006, 07:11 AM
Hi,

This stunt has been pulled before,
and it just comes across as a scam.
Unknowing fans will be purchasing these 'new' titles,
unaware, that they probably have them in their collections,
already!!!

From the runtime, it looks highly likely
that they are Lone Star re-works.

36621


I found more recent information about the John Wayne in Color set.

The three included films have state of the art colorization by Legend Films. Also included are the black and white originals, a policy Legend adheres to for all its product.

Visit Legend Films (http://www.legendfilms.net/) to see samples of their work and much interesting reading about their digital process. The films are done to such a high resolution that they can strike 35mm prints.

RoughRider

chester7777
December 12th, 2006, 01:17 AM
Roughrider,

Thanks for that link to Legend Films! They've got some great films available - it was good to see that the Shirley Temple films are being made available on DVD.

Chester :newyear:

falc04
May 27th, 2007, 06:49 AM
I found more recent information about the John Wayne in Color set.

The three included films have state of the art colorization by Legend Films. Also included are the black and white originals, a policy Legend adheres to for all its product.

Visit Legend Films (http://www.legendfilms.net/) to see samples of their work and much interesting reading about their digital process. The films are done to such a high resolution that they can strike 35mm prints.

RoughRider

And let's not forget that Legend Films has three more wonderful colorized films from his Lone Star days coming out this Tuesday. The first box set of films looked great...can't wait to see these next three!

H.sanada
December 1st, 2007, 01:39 AM
Hello everyone

JW DVD was put on the market again all at once
by as many as 9 works for paramount vintage collection
in Japan october,2007. (Region codes 2)
9 works are True Grit,El Dorado,The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance,Rio Robo
Hatari,Big Jake,In Harm's Way,Donovan's Reef and The Sons Of K.Elder
Unfortunately,I have had this all.
It come to want again because the package design has changed newly.

regards
H.sanada

SXViper
December 1st, 2007, 11:32 PM
Thanks for the update.

These DVD's came out last winter in the US with the updated packaging, they had been released before that as well. But they came out with the new packaging to coincide with the release of "The High and the Mighty, Hondo, Island in the Sky, and the official release of Mclintock.

Its nice to see they are coming out for the rest of the world to enjoy as well.

H.sanada
December 2nd, 2007, 04:05 AM
SXViper
Thank you for your information.
Hondo, Island in the Sky and McLintock were also released in Japan
but un-official (not major brand).

I hope The High and Mighty,Jet Piilot,The Wings of Eagles DVD
coming up soon in Japan.

Best Regards,
H.sanada

SXViper
December 4th, 2007, 11:01 PM
Hello everyone

JW DVD was put on the market again all at once
by as many as 9 works for paramount vintage collection
in Japan october,2007. (Region codes 2)
9 works are True Grit,El Dorado,The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance,Rio Robo
Hatari,Big Jake,In Harm's Way,Donovan's Reef and The Sons Of K.Elder
Unfortunately,I have had this all.
It come to want again because the package design has changed newly.

regards
H.sanada

I just picked up "Donovan's Reef" at our local Wal-Mart for $5. Can't beat that and its in the new packaging.

H.sanada, hope you get the new "official" releases soon. THATM is especially interesting with the 2 discs.

Yakima1
March 3rd, 2008, 11:32 AM
I have never seen The Barbarian and the Geisha. Is it scheduled to be released on DVD? Is there a place where one can go to find out what DVDs are scheduled to be released?

Thanks!

arthurarnell
March 3rd, 2008, 11:43 AM
Hi Yakima1

The Barbarian and the Geisha has been rleased on DVD in both Region I and region 2 and probably all of the other regions as well.

I'm not sure of the American outlets but I'm sure one of you countrymen will inform you.
Welcome to the site and i hope you will enjoy yourself



Regards

Arthur

Lt. Brannigan
March 3rd, 2008, 11:45 AM
There's one more that I can think of but I gotta go find it. Video ETA is kinda worthless, but I still use it occasionally.

http://digitalbits.com/
http://www.dvdactive.com/home/index.html
http://videoeta.com/
http://www.dvdverdict.com/upcoming/index.php



The Barbarian and the Geisha has been rleased on DVD in both Region I and region 2 and probably all of the other regions as well.I know it's available for region 2, but I am almost 100% positive that it has never been released in North America.... cause I would have it on DVD.

<Edit>I was partly right, it has never been released in North America but there's an import copy that's region 1 & 4 but the language on the DVD menu is PORTUGUESE.<edit>

Yakima1
March 3rd, 2008, 03:44 PM
Thank you much for the information!

Lt. Brannigan
March 3rd, 2008, 05:16 PM
I am glad I was finally able to be useful! :teeth_smile:

Stumpy
March 10th, 2008, 10:51 AM
The Barbarian and the Geisha has been released on DVD in both Region I and region 2 and probably all of the other regions as well.

I believe you're mistaken about it being released in Region 1, Arthur. The "Barbarian and the Geisha" is one of my favorite JW movies and believe me, I'd be snapping it up if it had been released over here.

BTW, if a cousin across the pond would be kind enough to procure a Region 2 release and mail it to me, I'd be forever grateful. I'd also reimburse you for all costs. (Keith (Ethan) did this for me once before and it worked out well).

Lt. Brannigan
March 10th, 2008, 12:16 PM
Ah, I see that I am not mistaken at all now. Cause like Stumpy said 'twere it on DVD we'd own it. At first though I have to admit that I thought I was slipping.

smokey
March 10th, 2008, 01:00 PM
it is out in region 4 have it thought it was a good movie
cheers smokey

The Ringo Kid
March 10th, 2008, 05:23 PM
I have never seen The Barbarian and the Geisha. Is it scheduled to be released on DVD? Is there a place where one can go to find out what DVDs are scheduled to be released?

Thanks!

Hi Yak, another place you can try checking is at: www.deepdiscountdvd.com (http://www.deepdiscountdvd.com) I have ordered quite a few items from there that are not sold anywhere locally or on a lot of dvd websites. Also, thet do not charge tax or shipping on their items and you can order 1 dvd or 500-and it's free shipping to you.

Take care and best regards.

PS, I "see" your from C.C. too! :thumbs_up:

chester7777
March 10th, 2008, 11:27 PM
I was partly right, it has never been released in North America but there's an import copy that's region 1 & 4 but the language on the DVD menu is PORTUGUESE.
Yeah, we found it "used and new" on Amazon, starting at around $24, as described above by Lt. Brannigan. FWIW, my first copy of Three Godfathers was in Portuguese, with the cover and DVD menu in Portuguese, but we could figure it out enough to play it in English. :wink_smile:

Chester :newyear:

chester7777
August 22nd, 2008, 06:45 PM
Stumpy was looking for the place to ask a question or make an announcement about upcoming DVD releases, and couldn't find it. I found numerous threads about the subject, and with a little work, condensed it down to 2 threads, one regarding release of JW movies to DVD and the other about all other movies, in Off Topic Discussions.

I hope it helps a little.

Chester :newyear:

ethanedwards
August 23rd, 2008, 05:31 PM
I also found another, later thread,
'New DVD Releases'
which was in The Movies Reviews,
and I have also merged that into this one

chester7777
August 23rd, 2008, 07:48 PM
Thanks, Keith! We'll eventually round all the stray dvd release threads up and get 'em corralled in one of the two threads.

Chester :newyear:

Popol Vuh
September 21st, 2008, 05:00 PM
Well I don't really have much hope for this myself, but it can't hurt. If you enter TCM's website and go to John Wayne's biography found here:

http://www.tcm.com/tcmdb/participant/participant.jsp?spid=202933&apid=87147

On the filmography at the far left press the more link you get all his movies listed. Click on any individual film and you can vote on it. This is to help show interest for having it released on DVD. Of course it would mean voting for those not released yet.

Well I voted on a couple and intend to vote on more the coming days. Maybe if we all went in and did this it could help their chances.

Regards
Popol Vuh

ethanedwards
September 21st, 2008, 06:03 PM
Hi Popul,

Thanks for the link and your post

chester7777
September 22nd, 2008, 07:27 AM
PV, THANKS for the heads up on this opportunity.

They even tell us why we should vote on a title -


Because we'll routinely send your votes to major Home video distributors responsible for releasing classic movies on to DVD. So go ahead and vote and let your voice be heard!I just went through and checked out every title I don't have. Quite a few are currently not available, so I voted for those. Some are available, so now I know I can get them if I want them.

Did anybody notice that The Shootist wasn't listed in that filmography? How weird is that?

And what's up with this listing in Duke's filmography?

(http://www.tcm.com/tcmdb/title/title.jsp?stid=521678&atid=0&category=overview)30, Still Single: Contemplating Suicide (http://www.tcm.com/tcmdb/title/title.jsp?stid=521678&atid=0&category=overview) (1998) as William--Cafe Patron

SXViper
September 22nd, 2008, 10:12 PM
The only one on that list that I could think of really wanting that hadn't been "officially" released was Circus World. Not that its a great movie or anything but its another one of those that I remember watchign with my dad while growing up. Would be nice to throw it in once in awhile to reminisce.

Frank
October 7th, 2008, 01:26 AM
Hi,

here in Italy we still wait for the releases on DVD of "The Quiet Man", "Rio Grande" and many more... I just can see it on VHS recorded from tv

DukePilgrim
October 11th, 2008, 05:34 PM
I presume you are talking abou subtitled /dubbed versions. It is amazing that they didnt co-ordinate Region 2 version with other languages.

Mike

SXViper
January 1st, 2009, 11:30 PM
Just going over some of my movie website's that post info on upcoming DVD releases and I come across this that was posted by the guys over at The Digital Bits :

There are some rumors surfacing that MGM will release the complete director's cut of John Wayne's The Alamo (as previously available only on the special edition laserdisc) by mid-2009. This would be a delightful release for the film's devoted fans, so let's hope there's some truth to it, especially if a Blu-ray version is also in the works.

Let's keep our finger's crossed!!!!

Hondo Duke Lane
January 1st, 2009, 11:46 PM
That's great Todd. It would be great to see that movie released in its complete from.

Is there any other news of other Duke movies being released? These are the movies that have not been released prior to 1939.

Wheel Of Fortune
Lady From Louisiana
Lady For A Night
War Of The Wildcats
The Barbarian And The Geisha
Circus World
I Married A Woman (a cameo appearance)

I will have all of the movies when these are released.

Cheers :cool: Hondo

ethanedwards
January 2nd, 2009, 03:32 AM
Thanks for the update Todd

arthurarnell
January 2nd, 2009, 03:35 AM
Hi Mike

I bought I Married A Woman on DVD last month. it was released by the John Wayne Film Society. I got it along with the Glenn campbell show and some of the 3 Mesquiteer series.


Regards

Arthur

H.sanada
January 2nd, 2009, 05:51 AM
That's great Todd. It would be great to see that movie released in its complete from.

Is there any other news of other Duke movies being released? These are the movies that have not been released prior to 1939.

Wheel Of Fortune
Lady From Louisiana
Lady For A Night
War Of The Wildcats
The Barbarian And The Geisha
Circus World
I Married A Woman (a cameo appearance)

I will have all of the movies when these are released.

Cheers :cool: Hondo

Hello Hondo
Happily,DVD of "Circus World" and "The Barbarian and The Geisha" has
been already released in Japan. ofcourse I bought them.
I guess these DVD(Region 1)also released in USA.
For me to hope most now is release of "the Wings of Eagles"DVD
(Region2)in Japan early.

regards,
Taka

ethanedwards
January 2nd, 2009, 08:31 AM
I have merged Todd's thread here,
as to avoid fragmentation.
Not long ago Chester and myself merged all threads
relating to new Duke releases.

SXViper
January 2nd, 2009, 08:48 AM
Thank's Keith, I tried finding this thread but for some reason I couldn't it. Must of been the time of night that I was looking for it!!!


Mike, there was no mention of any other movie's that I could find at this time.

Hondo Duke Lane
January 5th, 2009, 12:01 AM
Hello Hondo
Happily,DVD of "Circus World" and "The Barbarian and The Geisha" has
been already released in Japan. ofcourse I bought them.
I guess these DVD(Region 1)also released in USA.
For me to hope most now is release of "the Wings of Eagles"DVD
(Region2)in Japan early.

regards,
Taka

Taka,

These are movies in Region 1. I'm not sure what is your region, and what movies are released. But I will be glad to see about it. What region are you in?

Cheers :cool: Hondo

SXViper
January 5th, 2009, 11:41 PM
I believe that region 2 is Japan Mike.

H.sanada
January 6th, 2009, 05:56 AM
I believe that region 2 is Japan Mike.
SxViper is right.
It explains the region code of DVD to make sure though it is thought what you know.
From Wikipedia, DVD discs may be encoded with a region code restricting the area of the world in which they can be played.
The commercial DVD player specification requires that a player to be sold in a given place not play discs encoded for a different region.
the purpose of this is to allow motion pictures studios to control aspects
of a release,including content,release date,and,especially,price,according to the region.
region code 1s area is U.S. territories,Canada ,Bermuda.
and code 2 's area is Western and central Europe and Japan,U.K. French.
But, about Blu-ray Disc is different.
In region for Blu-ray standard,area of region A is America and East Asia.
Happily Japan and U.S.A. has the same code. waoh,Idon't have Blu-ray disc.:cry2:

regards.
Taka

Lt. Brannigan
February 25th, 2009, 10:55 PM
This is probably old news to all you folks but I just discovered that Paramount is releasing these films as 2 disc editions to celebrate the studio's 100th anniversary. (*Since I am already committed to this, I just decided to post the info on both of them. I apologize for the trouble this may cause.)

El Dorado's Showdown


A DVD big enough for two discs.


by David McCutcheon (dvd_mail@ign.com)

http://ad.doubleclick.net/activity;src=772310;met=1;v=1;pid=33711307;aid=212 314261;ko=0;cid=30409733;rid=30427610;rv=1;&timestamp=7634742;eid1=9;ecn1=1;etm1=0; http://www.dukewayne.com/ http://www.dukewayne.com/
February 24, 2009 - On May 19, 2009, Paramount Home Entertainment will release El Dorado (Paramount Centennial Collection) (http://dvd.ign.com/objects/143/14324761.html) on DVD. Legendary producer-director Howard Hawks teams up with two legendary stars, John Wayne and Robert Mitchum, in a classic Western drama. Mitchum plays to perfection an alcoholic but gutsy sheriff who relentlessly battles the "dark side" of the Wild West – ruthless cattle barons and crooked "businessmen." It will contain bonus materials and extra features, and the DVD will be available for the MSRP (Manufacturer's Suggested Retail Price) of $24.99.

El Dorado (Paramount Centennial Collection) (http://dvd.ign.com/objects/143/14324761.html) DVD will feature the following bonus materials:




Commentary by Filmmaker Peter Bogdanovich
Ride, Boldly Ride: The Journey to El Dorado
Commentary with critic and film historian Richard Schickel featuring actor Ed Asner and author Todd McCarthy
The Artist and the American West (1967) - Vintage Featurette
Behind the Gates: AC Remembers John Wayne
Galleries
Theatrical trailer


Check out the box art below:


http://dvdmedia.ign.com/dvd/image/article/956/956568/el-dorado-paramount-centennial-collection-20090224011037249-000.jpg (http://media.dvd.ign.com/media/143/14324761/img_6490560.html)
http://dvd.ign.com/articles/956/956568p1.html

Lt. Brannigan
February 25th, 2009, 11:02 PM
February 25, 2009 - On May 19, 2009, Paramount Home Entertainment will release The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance (Paramount Centennial Collection) (http://dvd.ign.com/objects/143/14325126.html) on DVD. Director John Ford brings us to the lawless frontier village of Shinbone, a town plagued by a larger-than-life nemesis, Liberty Valance (Lee Marvin). Jimmy Stewart plays the bungling but charming big-city lawyer determined to rid Shinbone of Valance, and he finds that he has an unlikely ally -- in the form of a rugged, local rancher (John Wayne). The two men also share the same love interest (Miles). But when the final showdown becomes inevitable, one It will contain bonus materials and extra features, and the DVD will be available for the MSRP (Manufacturer's Suggested Retail Price) of $24.99.

The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance (Paramount Centennial Collection) (http://dvd.ign.com/objects/143/14325126.html) DVD will feature the following bonus materials:




The Size of Legends, The Soul of Myth
Commentary by Filmmaker Peter Bogdanovich along with his archival recordings with John Ford and James Stewart
Selected Scene Commentary with intro by Dan Ford along with his archival recordings with John Ford, James Stewart and Lee Marvin
Original Theatrical Trailer
Galleries


Check out the box art below:


http://dvdmedia.ign.com/dvd/image/article/956/956998/the-man-who-shot-liberty-valance-paramount-centennial-collection-20090225020816539-000.jpg (http://media.dvd.ign.com/media/143/14325126/img_6494643.html)

http://dvd.ign.com/articles/956/956998p1.html

Lt. Brannigan
February 26th, 2009, 03:07 PM
I feel like such an idiot.... I checked the posts for each of the movies respective threads and saw nothing. then I checked the General threads and found nothing. But I failed to check the movie reviews board.
Thanks for moving it.

ethanedwards
February 26th, 2009, 05:39 PM
I feel like such an idiot.... I checked the posts for each of the movies respective threads and saw nothing. then I checked the General threads and found nothing. But I failed to check the movie reviews board.
Thanks for moving it.

It's no problem.
A few months ago, Chester and I,
scoured all the threads, and found endless
ones, relating to new releases.
We set about merging them all into one 'super-thread'
and of course the best place to place it, was in the Movies
Forum.

Thanks for you post and your support.

SXViper
March 26th, 2009, 11:34 PM
Found some interesting info on some upcoming releases. The first part is new western's that MGM has coming out. The second part is a re-release of 2 Duke movies with some added commentary and extras that some might be interested in. THese were found on digitalbits.com :

MGM has announced three westerns and two war films for release on May 12th. It's a sign of the times, I guess; this is a substantial reduction in numbers from MGM spring western and war promotions of the past. Instead, the studio has also announced a number of repackagings of past releases in various multi-packs (such as a 3-disc Cowboy Collection and a 20-disc Ultimate Westerns Collection). As there are no new titles involved and no new transfers mentioned, I'm not reporting on them in detail here. As for the five new releases, they are The King and Four Queens (1956, with Clark Gable), Doc (1971, with Stacy Keach), Young Billy Young (1969, with Robert Mitchum), Time Limit (1957, with Richard Widmark), and North West Frontier (aka Flame Over India, 1959, with Lauren Bacall and Kenneth More). MGM will also release The Good, the Bad and the Ugly (1966, with Clint Eastwood) on Blu-ray on May 12th.


Paramount continues with Hawaii Five-O delivering the Sixth Season on April 21st. April 28th brings Mission Impossible: The Sixth Season. The studio is also adding to its Centennial Collection with May 19th releases of two John Wayne westerns - El Dorado (1967) and The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance (1962). Extras on the former will be audio commentary by filmmaker Peter Bogdanovich; Ride, Boldly Ride: The Journey to El Dorado; audio commentary with critic and film historian Richard Schickel featuring actor Ed Asner and author Todd McCarthy; The Artist and the American West (1967) - vintage featurette: Behind the Gates: AC Remembers John Wayne; original theatrical trailer; and galleries. Liberty Valance will offer The Size of Legends, The Soul of Myth featurettes; audio commentary by filmmaker Peter Bogdanovich along with his archival recordings with John Ford, John Wayne, and James Stewart; selected scene commentary with intro by Dan Ford along with his archival recordings with John Ford; galleries; and the original theatrical trailer.

chester7777
March 26th, 2009, 11:40 PM
Thanks, Todd, for the news! Sounds like there are some excellent special features on both JW DVDs.

Chester :newyear:

Elly
May 22nd, 2009, 04:10 PM
February 25, 2009 - On May 19, 2009, Paramount Home Entertainment will release The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance (Paramount Centennial Collection) (http://dvd.ign.com/objects/143/14325126.html) on DVD. Director John Ford brings us to the lawless frontier village of Shinbone, a town plagued by a larger-than-life nemesis, Liberty Valance (Lee Marvin). Jimmy Stewart plays the bungling but charming big-city lawyer determined to rid Shinbone of Valance, and he finds that he has an unlikely ally -- in the form of a rugged, local rancher (John Wayne). The two men also share the same love interest (Miles). But when the final showdown becomes inevitable, one It will contain bonus materials and extra features, and the DVD will be available for the MSRP (Manufacturer's Suggested Retail Price) of $24.99.

The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance (Paramount Centennial Collection) (http://dvd.ign.com/objects/143/14325126.html) DVD will feature the following bonus materials:




The Size of Legends, The Soul of Myth
Commentary by Filmmaker Peter Bogdanovich along with his archival recordings with John Ford and James Stewart
Selected Scene Commentary with intro by Dan Ford along with his archival recordings with John Ford, James Stewart and Lee Marvin
Original Theatrical Trailer
Galleries

Check out the box art below:


http://dvdmedia.ign.com/dvd/image/article/956/956998/the-man-who-shot-liberty-valance-paramount-centennial-collection-20090225020816539-000.jpg (http://media.dvd.ign.com/media/143/14325126/img_6494643.html)


http://dvd.ign.com/articles/956/956998p1.html



hi all

I pre ordered these from Amazon.com and heard on Monday of this week that they have now been shipped so I should have them next week.

I only ordered them for the extras as I already have both films on DVD.

DukePilgrim
May 24th, 2009, 04:52 PM
Give us a rundown of the extras Elly when you receive DVD. Like most of us, I already have DVD. Could you also compare prints and sound quality to see if there is any significant differences.

Mike

Elly
May 25th, 2009, 04:19 AM
Give us a rundown of the extras Elly when you receive DVD. Like most of us, I already have DVD. Could you also compare prints and sound quality to see if there is any significant differences.

Mike

Will do. Like you I have them already but am a sucker for the extras and of course better quality. Always get the extras but the quality does not always improve.

chester7777
May 25th, 2009, 01:21 PM
I only ordered them for the extras as I already have both films on DVD.
Like you, we already have both films on DVD, so we would be especially interested in your thoughts on the extras, because that would be the only reason we would purchase the titles again.

Chester :newyear:

Elly
June 4th, 2009, 02:13 AM
Give us a rundown of the extras Elly when you receive DVD. Like most of us, I already have DVD. Could you also compare prints and sound quality to see if there is any significant differences.

Mike

Hello Mike

Well they finally arrived and having watched them back to back I can say they are both well worth the money I paid.

Not only is the qualty of the print far superior to the copies i had I would have paid this just for the extras.

if only all DVDs were up to this standard

DukePilgrim
June 6th, 2009, 04:25 PM
Thanks for update Elly.

I wonder will these editions be issued in Region 2 as well?

Mike

chester7777
June 6th, 2009, 04:58 PM
Like you, we already have both films on DVD, so we would be especially interested in your thoughts on the extras, because that would be the only reason we would purchase the titles again.


Well they finally arrived and having watched them back to back I can say they are both well worth the money I paid.

Not only is the quality of the print far superior to the copies I had I would have paid this just for the extras.

Wow! Now I'll have to get them, after your good report.

FWIW, Amazon has them at a better price than Deep Discount DVD at this time, each title around $15.

Elly
June 8th, 2009, 12:29 PM
Thanks for update Elly.

I wonder will these editions be issued in Region 2 as well?

Mike

Hi Mike

Have you tried making your DVD player region free as I have so that it does not matter where you buy them from they will still play?

Usually it is a matter of entering a code via the remote control. PM me if you want some help with it

Elly

Lt. Brannigan
November 28th, 2009, 08:07 PM
I had hoped I found something of exciting dramatic and profound value and something rare that no one had knew about but upon searching the forums I discover it is indeed known. Anyway way here is a new John Wayne release on DVD


http://edge.shop.com/ccimg.shop.com/op/232500000/232502100/232502135/-%21This%20Little%20Bullet%20--image.jpg

http://www.amazon.com/This-Little-Bullet-John-Wayne/dp/B002M9FXUE/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1259460204&sr=1-1

ethanedwards
November 28th, 2009, 08:17 PM
Lt. Brannigan;88116]I had hoped I found something of exciting dramatic and profound value and something rare that no one had knew about but upon searching the forums I discover it is indeed known. Anyway way here is a new John Wayne release on DVD


http://edge.shop.com/ccimg.shop.com/op/232500000/232502100/232502135/-%21This%20Little%20Bullet%20--image.jpg

http://www.amazon.com/This-Little-Bullet-John-Wayne/dp/B002M9FXUE/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1259460204&sr=1-1[/QUOTE]

Jim,
It will be interesting to know, what this is,
new or a retitled and re-issue, which so often happens!!

Lt. Brannigan
November 28th, 2009, 08:19 PM
http://edge.shop.com/ccimg.shop.com/op/232500000/232502100/232502135/-%21This%20Little%20Bullet%20--image.jpg

http://www.amazon.com/This-Little-Bullet-John-Wayne/dp/B002M9FXUE/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1259460204&sr=1-1

Jim,
It will be interesting to know, what this is,
new or a retitled and re-issue, which so often happens!![/quote]


Guns and ammo can provide their share of fun and enjoyment for the recreational sportsman, but they also come with their own set of very real dangers, as this John Wayne-narrated safety documentary ably explains. Cowboy actor Wayne knew a thing or two about guns in his day, and as such, this 40-year-old educational film is as relevant now as it was when it was first produced by the Arizona Game and Fish Department.


That is the synopsis.

chester7777
November 28th, 2009, 10:16 PM
Wow! Sounds like a DVD I wouldn't mind owning, with a couple of young teenagers around. The price is reasonable, too!

Thanks, you guys, for doing the research to let us know what it's all about.

Kind of like No Substitute for Victory, the documentary around the time of the Vietnam War, which Duke narrated.

Chester :newyear:

Lt. Brannigan
November 28th, 2009, 10:22 PM
Wow! Sounds like a DVD I wouldn't mind owning, with a couple of young teenagers around. The price is reasonable, too!

Thanks, you guys, for doing the research to let us know what it's all about.

Kind of like No Substitute for Victory, the documentary around the time of the Vietnam War, which Duke narrated.

Chester :newyear:

Glad to be of service.

Hondo Duke Lane
January 10th, 2010, 12:58 AM
According to my list of movies that John Wayne made from 1939 and on that are not out on DVD/Blu-Ray in the Region 1 are:
(Theatrical Release Date)
1. Wheel of Fortune (3/14/1941)
2. Lady from Louisiana (4/22/1941)
3. Lady for a Night (12/29/1941)
4. War of the Wildcats (10/25/1943)
5. I Married a Woman (5/23/1958) cameo appearance
6. The Barbarian and the Geisha (9/30/1958)
7. Circus World (6/24/1964)

Can anyone confirm that these titles are not released yet? I actually have all the others.

Cheers :cool: Hondo

Elly
January 10th, 2010, 05:23 AM
According to my list of movies that John Wayne made from 1939 and on that are not out on DVD/Blu-Ray in the Region 1 are:
(Theatrical Release Date)
1. Wheel of Fortune (3/14/1941)
2. Lady from Louisiana (4/22/1941)
3. Lady for a Night (12/29/1941)
4. War of the Wildcats (10/25/1943)
5. I Married a Woman (5/23/1958) cameo appearance
6. The Barbarian and the Geisha (9/30/1958)
7. Circus World (6/24/1964)

Can anyone confirm that these titles are not released yet? I actually have all the others.

Cheers :cool: Hondo

Best place on the web for info on what has been released to DVD


http://www.vanc.igs.net/~roughley/john_wayne_dvd_filmography.html

Hondo Duke Lane
January 10th, 2010, 09:37 AM
Thanks Elly, that was a big help. I think it is confirmed that I am right except to add Cancel My Reservations, another cameo appearance.

Cheers :cool: Hondo

pouchboy
February 10th, 2010, 10:16 AM
Anyone have any idea when Paramount will start issuing Duke films on Blu-Ray? I have the Warner releases of Cowboys, Rio Bravo, and The Searchers---and they are gorgeous.

Paramount is sitting on a treasure. I will buy several. Anyone heard anything?

Hondo Duke Lane
February 10th, 2010, 12:14 PM
There is also The Green Berets and How the West was Won on Blu-Ray.

Not sure what Paramount is issuing. They seem to hold back. They did that with DVD at the beginning.

Cheers :cool: Hondo

Elly
February 10th, 2010, 12:22 PM
Anyone have any idea when Paramount will start issuing Duke films on Blu-Ray? I have the Warner releases of Cowboys, Rio Bravo, and The Searchers---and they are gorgeous.

Paramount is sitting on a treasure. I will buy several. Anyone heard anything?

Hi Take a look at RoughRiders website he lists all JW films that are available on DVD & Blu ray or due for release

http://www.vanc.igs.net/~roughley/john_wayne_dvd_filmography.html

pouchboy
February 10th, 2010, 06:18 PM
Looks like Paramount could release a few Blu-Ray titles in 2010, if they had any sense. The JW titles still sell. As I now have a big-screen HDTV, watching True Grit, Shootist, etc. and other Paramount titles on this format could be a sensational experience. Plus, digital sound---let's hope they do as good a job as Warner Brothers has done on their JW Blu-Ray releases.

RoughRider
February 11th, 2010, 05:57 AM
Hi Take a look at RoughRiders website he lists all JW films that are available on DVD & Blu ray or due for release

http://www.vanc.igs.net/~roughley/john_wayne_dvd_filmography.html

Criterion is rumored to have Stagecoach coming to Blu-ray now that Warner Brothers' distribution rights have lapsed. It'll be a different (better) print than the one currently available on DVD.

Lt. Brannigan
February 15th, 2010, 07:10 PM
hey you guys! I just learned of a new Stagecoach (1939) DVD and Blu-ray release coming may 25th! This is a criterion release and for reference I have included the cover art release date, and special features.


DVD
http://criterion_production.s3.amazonaws.com/release_images/2692/516_box_348x490.jpg


and finally here is the special features list


SPECIAL EDITION FEATURES:


New, restored high-definition digital transfer, with uncompressed monaural soundtrack on the Blu-ray edition
Audio commentary by noted western authority Jim Kitses
Bucking Broadway (1917), a fifty-four-minute silent western by John Ford, with new music by Donald Sosin
Extensive video interview with Ford from 1968
New video interview with Dan Ford, biographer and grandson of the director, about Ford’s home movies
New video interview with filmmaker Peter Bogdanovich
New video essay by writer Tag Gallagher
New video feature about Monument Valley
New video interview with stunt coordinator Vic Armstrong about Stagecoach’s stuntman Yakima Canutt
Radio dramatization of Stagecoach from 1949
Theatrical trailer
PLUS: A booklet featuring an essay by David Cairns and the short story that inspired the film


http://digitalbits.com/articles/miscgfx/covers6/stagecoachcriteriondvd.jpg

firstrebel
February 16th, 2010, 03:32 AM
Great news, but I think the cover could have been a bit more attractive.

Bob

ethanedwards
February 16th, 2010, 04:09 AM
Great news, but I think the cover could have been a bit more attractive.

Bob

I agree, great features,
but the cover is awful!!

Lt. Brannigan
February 16th, 2010, 10:23 AM
I agree the cover lacks style, also the blu ray is exactly the same with the exception of a sticker saying it's blu-ray.

RoughRider
February 16th, 2010, 04:09 PM
It's important to note that this new version of Stagecoach is from an entirely different print than the Warner Brothers DVD, including the special edition. So the combination of Blu-ray and a better print will be something to behold.

Another new release to DVD is In Old Oklahoma/War of the Wildcats. The title has been available on Region 2 for a few years, from a very nice print from the official Republic library (including a few scenes not found in the American VHS release). People will remember that Paramount announced this title for Region 1 in 2006 but all we got was the cover art.

What's interesting to me is that the film is released on DVD (most likely DVD-R) by PR Studios, a public domain label. (The Amazon listing shows it as Region 1, so maybe it's a standard commercial DVD.) Hopefully the print quality won't be as bad as the cover art done by PR Studios. The running time shows as 97 minutes, so I'm wondering if PR did a PAL to NTSC conversion of the official PAL disc (which runs 97 minutes).

Although this isn't an official release, it has UPC and EAN numbers. If the film is still under copyright (i.e. it was renewed after 28 years), then I would think Paramount's lawyers would send PR Studios a warning about selling their property, especially on Amazon which would attract more attention.

Regardless of the legal ramifications, War of the Wildcats is now available on Region 1 even though it's not an official release. But with UPC and EAN numbers, it's somewhat of an official commercial release.

I've ordered the film and will report back on the print quality. I have the official UK DVD, of which I did a high-quality PAL to NTSC conversion with TMPGEnc XPress and DGPulldown. This will be my benchmark for comparison.

Lt. Brannigan
February 16th, 2010, 08:14 PM
I saw that release, but it should be noted that PR releases are DVD-R.

Just check out the reviews for the Captain America serial DVD.

RoughRider
February 17th, 2010, 03:49 AM
I saw that release, but it should be noted that PR releases are DVD-R.

Just check out the reviews for the Captain America serial DVD.


Judging by some of the reviews I've read of PR Studios product, the quality will reflect their cover art.

DVD-R isn't an issue to me so long as the print quality is good, of course. Even Warner Brothers is releasing some burn-on-demand titles, although evidently their production method is different than what one would do at home.

Like some titles on eBay, it'll be interesting to see if War of the Wildcats gets pulled for legal reasons (if there's a basis for that). I would rather see Paramount release the film on DVD.

I can't even find the official website for PR Studios, although that could be my fault. Anyone know of it or have any insight into this company?

Lt. Brannigan
February 17th, 2010, 03:30 PM
As far as I can gather it is just a small-time operation releasing titles to DVD that have no official Region 1 release.

Something like you or I could do if we had the ambition.

Stumpy
February 17th, 2010, 04:15 PM
Something like you or I could do if we had the ambition.

Or a willingness to buck the copyright laws, if any, which could leave you open to lots of financial headaches.

Lt. Brannigan
February 17th, 2010, 04:53 PM
Or a willingness to buck the copyright laws, if any, which could leave you open to lots of financial headaches.

There's that too, we could become Butch Cassidy and The Sundance Kid of pirates....

But really if you want a copy of War of the Wildcats so bad, check out the internet archive. www.archive.org which I assume is a legit place to get it.

RoughRider
February 18th, 2010, 06:34 AM
There's that too, we could become Butch Cassidy and The Sundance Kid of pirates....

But really if you want a copy of War of the Wildcats so bad, check out the internet archive. www.archive.org (http://www.archive.org) which I assume is a legit place to get it.


Well... it's in the public domain then, or at least PR Studios and Internet Archive deem it so.

The print on the Internet Archive is definitely from the PAL DVD, which of course looks much better than the online version.

Maybe PR Studios downloaded it from there and burned it for the DVD-R release? Somehow that wouldn't surprise me.

I should start selling the lovely NTSC conversion I did <g>. I also did conversions of Lady for a Night (a lovely print) and Without Reservations (the US DVD is cut by about 6 minutes).

jessie
October 7th, 2010, 06:41 PM
In Australia we have a few shops that sell DVD's really cheaply, ** $2- AU, and i always have a look in the bins for old Westerns which there are plenty of always.

The John Wayne, and similar vintage Westerns ( very early ones ) go quickly, and the Beverly Hillbillies , Mr Ed etc.

Was wondering if in the US they do the same with his DVD's, after reading some of the info re current family court cases on this site, these DVD's must be bringing in a lot of income Internationally even at $2 a piece

Lt. Brannigan
October 7th, 2010, 07:48 PM
They only get profits from the official Paramount DVD releases of Batjac productions.

Lt. Brannigan
October 13th, 2010, 11:55 PM
Nothing of great importance, but this release (http://www.amazon.com/Bigger-Than-Life-John-Wayne/dp/B0042ZH8M2/ref=sr_1_3?s=dvd&ie=UTF8&qid=1286940800&sr=1-3) has me at least curious.

As far as I can tell it contains this documentary (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0248927/),

as well as

"Rare" TV appearances,
movie trailers
The American West of John Ford
McLintock!

Artwork
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51n81eyZHSL._SL500_AA300_.jpg

ethanedwards
October 14th, 2010, 06:13 AM
Nothing of great importance, but this release (http://www.amazon.com/Bigger-Than-Life-John-Wayne/dp/B0042ZH8M2/ref=sr_1_3?s=dvd&ie=UTF8&qid=1286940800&sr=1-3) has me at least curious.

As far as I can tell it contains this documentary (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0248927/)

Looks like it includes the two VHS documentaries, (I have them)
Bigger Than Life, and The American West of John Ford, (see below)

So it looks, as in other DVD releases, it has extras!
Thanks Jim, I have also copied your post to the documentary thread

Bigger Than Life

http://www.dukewayne.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1282



This documentary pays homage, to Duke
throughout is life, showing rare footage
and clips, a worthy tribute to a classic legend.

Personally, I thought it was just about OK!!!
The American West of John Ford

http://www.dukewayne.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1281


Hosted and Narrated by John Wayne,
Henry Fonda, and James Stewart,
this documentary pays homage to
'The guy who made westerns'
Duke joins John Ford in Monument Valley,
which also features, Andy Devine.
Includes many clips from the films,
made there with Ford.

A worthwhile documentary, and a must have.

jessie
October 14th, 2010, 06:16 PM
I would really like to see them both.

capnralls
December 18th, 2010, 09:16 PM
A new contest is underway at http://www.jwaynefan.com/truegritBR.html

The contest will be posted until the middle of January, check it out, Pilgrims.


Paul

SXViper
December 28th, 2010, 01:32 PM
Thanks, I will check it out. It would do nicely sitting next to the rest of my JW Blu-Rays.

SXViper
December 28th, 2010, 02:43 PM
Here is another JW DVD release that some people might be interested in, more for the documentaries instead of the movie(McLintock!), which most of us already have anyways.

Synergy Entertainment will be releasing John Wayne: Bigger Than Life on January 25th. The three-disc set includes the western comedy McLintock! (1963) and three documentaries: Bigger Than Life (1990), covering the legend's life and films; The American West of John Ford (1971), highlighting the career and western films of acclaimed director John Ford, including interviews with Wayne and other colleagues; and No Substitute for Victory (1970), hosted by Wayne, about the communist threat and its zenith in Vietnam. Extras are rare TV appearances by Wayne on Art Linkletter's People Are Funny (1958); The Colgate Comedy Hour (October 11, 1953); Wide Wide World (1958) in a segment called "The Western"; and The Lucy Show (1966), in which Wayne plays himself as Lucy (Lucille Ball) is sent to deliver some papers pertaining to the financing of one of his latest productions

DukePilgrim
December 28th, 2010, 03:50 PM
Here is another JW DVD release that some people might be interested in, more for the documentaries instead of the movie(McLintock!), which most of us already have anyways.

Synergy Entertainment will be releasing John Wayne: Bigger Than Life on January 25th. The three-disc set includes the western comedy McLintock! (1963) and three documentaries: Bigger Than Life (1990), covering the legend's life and films; The American West of John Ford (1971), highlighting the career and western films of acclaimed director John Ford, including interviews with Wayne and other colleagues; and No Substitute for Victory (1970), hosted by Wayne, about the communist threat and its zenith in Vietnam. Extras are rare TV appearances by Wayne on Art Linkletter's People Are Funny (1958); The Colgate Comedy Hour (October 11, 1953); Wide Wide World (1958) in a segment called "The Western"; and The Lucy Show (1966), in which Wayne plays himself as Lucy (Lucille Ball) is sent to deliver some papers pertaining to the financing of one of his latest productions

Is there any link to Synergy?

SXViper
December 28th, 2010, 11:32 PM
Is there any link to Synergy?


Yes, here it is: http://www.synergyent.com/

Here is the link to pre-order the DVD as well: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0042ZH8M2?ie=UTF8&tag=dvd1stop&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B0042ZH8M2

chester7777
December 29th, 2010, 08:23 PM
A new contest is underway at http://www.jwaynefan.com/truegritBR.html

The contest will be posted until the middle of January, check it out, Pilgrims.


Paul

Thanks, Paul, for the opportunity!

WaynamoJim
April 3rd, 2011, 06:17 PM
Found these on Amazon.com. A few movies hitting the Blu-ray format next month and June.

Once Upon A time In The West- May 3rd
The Horse Soldiers- May 10th
The Comancheros- May 17th
Big Jake- May 31st
The Outlaw Josey Wales- June 7th.

Hondo Duke Lane
April 3rd, 2011, 10:07 PM
Great movies! Can't wait for the blu-ray release of The Quiet Man. Now that will be really fantastic. But I'd like to see as well To Kill A Mockingbird, and It's a Wonderful Life. These are my three favorite movies.

Cheers :cool: Hondo

Paula
April 4th, 2011, 09:57 AM
The Quiet Man needs a major major restoration. The current DVD looks terrible. So far I have not heard about anyone (we're looking at YOU, Paramount, you own the rights to this film now) paying for the required restoration. The elements exist -- it's only a matter of money and labor. Until that happens, I doubt we'll be seeing it on Blu-ray. Alas. :(

ringo kid
April 4th, 2011, 01:54 PM
Great movies! Can't wait for the blu-ray release of The Quiet Man. Now that will be really fantastic. But I'd like to see as well To Kill A Mockingbird, and It's a Wonderful Life. These are my three favorite movies.

Cheers :cool: Hondo


hondo it's a wonderful life is on blue-ray at the moment.the transfer is great.i have it in my collection.

WaynamoJim
April 4th, 2011, 11:21 PM
Also being released on Blu-ray on June 7th,

The Long Riders
Vera Cruz

WaynamoJim
April 17th, 2011, 07:42 PM
Rio Lobo will be released on Blu-ray on May 31st.

DukePilgrim
April 25th, 2011, 05:00 PM
Good news about The Quiet Man lets hope they improve the print quality.

Paula
April 26th, 2011, 09:58 AM
Unfortunately The Quiet Man is not currently scheduled for a Blu-ray release. :(

I believe it would need a thorough restoration. The elements exist. It's only a matter of money and time.

DukePilgrim
April 26th, 2011, 04:14 PM
Unfortunately The Quiet Man is not currently scheduled for a Blu-ray release. :(

I believe it would need restoration. The elements exist. It's only a matter of money and time.

It needs a lot of restoration as I don't think it was graded properly by Republic when it was first released and any subsequent releases on film, video or DVD have not been without their faults.

It would be great if someone or an organisation took the task on as it would be a shame to lose this classic to future generations.

I believe that The Quiet Man was the best selling video in the UK when it was first released so a restored DVD release could be a money winner.

RoughRider
April 26th, 2011, 06:04 PM
It needs a lot of restoration as I don't think it was graded properly by Republic when it was first released and any subsequent releases on film, video or DVD have not been without their faults.

It would be great if someone or an organisation took the task on as it would be a shame to lose this classic to future generations.

I believe that The Quiet Man was the best selling video in the UK when it was first released so a restored DVD release could be a money winner.

Even disregarding the print quality, The Quiet Man was released to DVD in the UK from an NTSC master which is never a good thing.

Somehow I think it'll eventually be released on Blu-ray. There are many John Wayne fans, of course, but there are many John Ford fans, too. The combination of the two is very marketable.

Turner Classic Movies recently showed The Horse Soldiers, and it's an entirely different print than what was released on DVD to the world. This new transfer is most likely what will end up on the soon-to-be-released Blu-ray. Hopefully The Quiet Man will get the same treatment.

ethanedwards
April 27th, 2011, 03:52 AM
RR thanks for the info and also thanks all for keeping us updated

Paula
April 27th, 2011, 08:45 PM
The Horse Soldiers has been running in HD on one of the HD channels -- it looks great. So does Rio Grande on HDNet (alas no Blu-ray of that yet).

The DVD of The Quiet Man received universally negative reviews (I'm referring to the Region 1/North American release). It may come out on Blu-ray someday (I sure hope it does) but not without a significant restoration. The DVD was the topic of a lot of discussion at Home Theater Forum when it came out -- everyone was really disappointed with it, alas.

Hondo Duke Lane
May 15th, 2011, 10:41 AM
I purchased The Horse Soldiers on Blu-Ray, and it is great. I can't believe the difference. And I paid only $11.99 for the movie at the local video store. May get some others soon.

Cheers :cool: Hondo

WaynamoJim
May 17th, 2011, 08:28 PM
I saw The Horse Soldiers Blu-ray at Walmart for an even $10. I thought about getting it but, decided to wait. I ended up going to Best Buy and getting The Comancheros instead. It was $24.99 and the packaging opens like a book, has two lobby cards in it and a few page book that tells about the movie and the main actors. It's a single disc with quite a few extras including a couple of docs. All in all, it looks like a hard cover book like the ones kids used to get. Haven't watched it yet, though, so I don't know how it looks on screen.

Paula
May 18th, 2011, 08:35 AM
Here is blu-ray.com's review of The Horse Soldiers:

http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/The-Horse-Soldiers-Blu-ray/21665/#Review

From the screenshots with the review, this looks like a HUGE improvement over the DVD. I'll have to get it. :)

I watched the Comancheros Blu-ray and it looks great. Thumbs up. ;)

Paula
May 18th, 2011, 08:39 AM
And... preservationist Robert A. Harris weighs in on The Horse Soldiers blu-ray:

http://www.hometheaterforum.com/forum/thread/311490/a-few-words-about-the-horse-soldiers-in-blu-ray

He rates it "acceptable."

RoughRider
May 19th, 2011, 04:30 AM
Here is blu-ray.com's review of The Horse Soldiers:

http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/The-Horse-Soldiers-Blu-ray/21665/#Review

From the screenshots with the review, this looks like a HUGE improvement over the DVD. I'll have to get it. :)

I watched the Comancheros Blu-ray and it looks great. Thumbs up. ;)

Worthy of note for The Comancheros Blu-ray is the documentary The Duke at Fox, which confirms that he played a police officer in Four Sons (1928). I have a clip of that scene in my filmography, and some time ago it was debated whether this was indeed John Wayne. Someone here posted the clip on YouTube, too. Anyway, it's Wayne!

Also worthy of note in the documentary are two scenes from Girls Demand Excitement. Some dubious sites on the 'net say they have the entire film for download, but I don't trust them enough to pay and subscribe to confirm. It's certainly plausible since the film played at a New York festival in 2006, and someone may have used a camcorder.

For reasons unknown to me my webspace is down at the moment, but I'll put online the two scenes from Girls Demand Excitement.

ethanedwards
May 19th, 2011, 05:02 AM
Worthy of note for The Comancheros Blu-ray is the documentary The Duke at Fox, which confirms that he played a police officer in Four Sons (1928). I have a clip of that scene in my filmography, and some time ago it was debated whether this was indeed John Wayne. Someone here posted the clip on YouTube, too. Anyway, it's Wayne!

Here is the thread
FOUR SONS (http://www.dukewayne.com/showthread.php?t=4671)
including the video clip

RoughRider
May 19th, 2011, 06:47 AM
Here is the thread
FOUR SONS (http://www.dukewayne.com/showthread.php?t=4671)
including the video clip

And here is a link to the Girls Demand Excitement clips, which were edited together and a small bit of narration deleted. It's only 19 seconds.

http://members.shaw.ca/n_roughley/Girls_Demand_Excitement.wmv

or, for Mac users or those who prefer Flash:

http://members.shaw.ca/n_roughley/Girls_Demand_Excitement.flv

I would love to see the entire film, missing reel or not.

ethanedwards
May 19th, 2011, 05:24 PM
And here is a link to the Girls Demand Excitement clips, which were edited together and a small bit of narration deleted. It's only 19 seconds.


I would love to see the entire film, missing reel or not.

Thanks for your post RR,
I have also copied it to the deicated thread
GIRLS DEMAND EXCITEMENT (http://www.dukewayne.com/showthread.php?t=1694)

dukefan1
May 20th, 2011, 02:07 AM
Here's a short interview with Ethan Wayne about his Dad and Blue Ray versions of Duke's films, among other things.

http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=6447

ethanedwards
May 20th, 2011, 05:29 AM
Here's a short interview with Ethan Wayne about his Dad and Blue Ray versions of Duke's films, among other things.


Thanks for this Mark,
I have also copied it over to
Sons Of The Saddle- Ethan Wayne (http://www.dukewayne.com/showthread.php?t=2418)

Paula
June 3rd, 2011, 09:07 AM
Dave Kehr's May 27 Sunday New York Times DVD column takes a look at the new John Wayne blu-ray releases:

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/29/movies/homevideo/the-horse-soldiers-and-the-comancheros-on-blu-ray.html?_r=1&ref=davekehr

WaynamoJim
June 6th, 2011, 07:44 PM
Darn, can't read it unless I susbscribe and I'm not subscribing.

Paula
June 6th, 2011, 09:28 PM
I do subscribe -- remember I am your friendly neighborhood liberal! :) -- so here you go, with a little cutting and pasting. :)

VIDEO
The Many Shades of Wayne

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John Wayne in “Rio Lobo” (1970). Fox is releasing Blu-ray editions of two films from Wayne's late-middle period: “The Horse Soldiers” and “The
Comancheros.”

By DAVE KEHR
Published: May 27, 2011

AS Father’s Day draws nigh, the studios traditionally shake out their libraries for films presumed to have paternal appeal — pipe-and-slippers movies, suitable for showing on big-screen TVs in wood-paneled dens.

http://i742.photobucket.com/albums/xx61/pvitari/John%20Wayne/KEHR-Jp-popup.jpg
John Wayne in “Big Jake” (1971), with hints of Peckinpah.

In practice this means turning to the three W’s — war movies, westerns and Wayne. That’s Wayne as in John Wayne, an actor whose towering (6-foot-4-inch) presence came to dominate those two genres, and who in a sense constituted a genre all by himself. More than a performer, Wayne was (and remains, 32 years after his death) an entire assembly line of stories and themes, of intuitions and associations that continue to resonate in American culture.

This year Fox is releasing Blu-ray editions of two films that belong to Wayne’s late-middle period: “The Horse Soldiers,” directed by John Ford and released in 1959, and “The Comancheros,” a 1961 release that would be the last directed by the prolific Michael Curtiz. And Paramount is releasing two late Wayne films that originally came out through National General Pictures: “Rio Lobo,” the 1970 western that would prove to be the last film directed by Howard Hawks, and “Big Jake,” a 1971 release that would be the last screen credit for the director George Sherman, a hard-working and undervalued genre filmmaker who had worked with Wayne back at Republic in the 1930s.

These aren’t among the best films that Wayne ever appeared in, but each one offers another chapter in the story of the singular character that Wayne, with the help of several important collaborators, invented for himself. A strikingly handsome tabula rasa in his first leading role, in Raoul Walsh’s “Big Trail” (1930), Wayne steadily added elements to his screen persona through his 1930s apprenticeship in Poverty Row westerns.

By 1939, when Ford called upon him for the self-consciously mythic “Stagecoach,” Wayne had developed the distinctive, stop-and-start speech patterns that give his line readings the swinging cadences of blank verse, and the peculiarly delicate, dancerlike way in which he carries his big (and ever bigger) body along, coming to rest with his hip cocked in the contrapposto pose of classical statuary.

Exempt from the draft because of his age and having a large family, Wayne moved into A pictures during World War II, when many established stars were away for the duration. But he didn’t become a major box-office attraction until the war was well over and his youth had faded. Beginning with Hawks’s “Red River” in 1948, continuing through the three chapters of Ford’s “cavalry trilogy” (“Fort Apache” 1948, “She Wore a Yellow Ribbon” 1949, “Rio Grande” 1950) and his first Oscar nomination, as the implacable Sergeant Stryker in Allan Dwan’s “Sands of Iwo Jima” (1949), Wayne assumed a new stature and significance.

Frequently graying up to play older characters, Wayne in middle age came to represent a complex strain of paternal authority, sometimes warmly protective (as in the cavalry trilogy), sometimes frankly unhinged (as in “Red River” and Ford’s 1956 masterpiece, “The Searchers”). Here was a man who could get you through the worst the world had to offer. Here was a man who could kill you without a second thought.

“The Horse Soldiers” is an important, personal film that merits a more detailed appreciation than it will receive here (as indeed it has, in the voluminous literature on Ford). But in the context of Wayne’s career the movie offers an unusually harsh version of the commanding-officer character Wayne began playing during World War II.

Rather than the protective, sympathetic figure reluctantly forced into a position of authority, he here plays a surly, distant Union officer (set during a violent campaign through Mississippi, the film might more accurately be classed as a “southern”), whose harsh pragmatism is played in contrast to the warm humanism represented by William Holden’s chief medical officer. When he finally allows some sign of emotion to escape, Wayne’s Colonel Marlowe erupts in bitterness and self-disgust over the death and destruction it has been his duty to inflict.

Made in the wake of Wayne’s financially disastrous personal production, “The Alamo” (1960), “The Comancheros” plays it safe, casting Wayne as a Texas ranger who goes undercover to investigate arms merchants operating out of a sort of proto-fascist commune (a strange, promising idea that the movie never really develops). It’s said that Wayne took over the direction from an ailing Curtiz, and the movie shows few signs of Curtiz’s meticulous craftsmanship. But it does further the tactic established in Hawks’s “Rio Bravo” of pairing the now visibly middle-aged Wayne with a younger co-star (in this case, Stuart Whitman), toward whom he can behave as mentor and moral exemplar.

Fatherly in the 1960s, Wayne became a feisty grandpa in the ’70s, thanks in no small part to his self-parodic (and, consequently, Oscar-winning) performance in “True Grit” (1969). Hawks’s “Rio Lobo” backs off from the cuddliness, though age remains very much an issue. The young female lead (Jennifer O’Neill, the last in a long line of Hawks discoveries) snuggles up to Wayne’s character because she finds him “comfortable,” reserving stronger feelings for the hunky second lead (the Mexican star Jorge Rivero). The film begins vigorously with a magnificently staged train robbery (likely the work of the second unit director, Yakima Canutt, Wayne’s frequent stunt double in the 1930s) but seems itself to succumb slowly to the effects of age, turning into a slow, pleasant ramble through past ideas (many copped from “Rio Bravo”).

Significantly “Rio Lobo” ends, not with a heroic gesture from the Wayne character, but with a violent act of vengeance from a suddenly empowered woman (Sherry Lansing, who went on to become a major production executive at Columbia, Fox and Paramount).

The times, indeed, were changing, a factor that “Big Jake” specifically addresses with an opening montage that places the action in 1909, at the end of the American West’s mythic period. This is Sam Peckinpah territory, with the modern (in the form of cars and motorcycles) bumping up against the traditional, and while the film never goes to Peckinpah’s extremes, the influence of “The Wild Bunch” can be felt in the startlingly graphic violence.

Again, it is said that Wayne took over the directorial reins when the aging George Sherman faltered, but traces of Sherman’s distinctive use of landscape remain in the finely executed opening sequence, in which an outlaw gang (led by Richard Boone) slowly approaches a ranch from the distant end of a deep valley. The tiny figures gradually expand into view as the lady of the ranch (Maureen O’Hara) wonders who they might be.

“Big Jake” was one of two films written by the husband and wife team of Harry J. Fink and Rita M. Fink released in 1971, the other being a certain cop picture called “Dirty Harry.” Wayne would continue to work for another five years, but this was now the era of Clint Eastwood, who was taking the themes of the western into areas Wayne could not penetrate.

Here’s hoping that Paramount gets around to a Blu-ray release for “The Shootist,” Wayne’s final film (1976) and, as directed by the “Dirty Harry” director Don Siegel, perhaps the most sensitive and appropriate valedictory film ever composed around a major star. It helped, of course, that Wayne didn’t see it that way. He still had other projects in the works when he died in 1979 — 72 years old but, as we now know, ageless.

Lt. Brannigan
June 6th, 2011, 09:55 PM
Darn, can't read it unless I susbscribe and I'm not subscribing.

Which one?

*Edit. never mind. Our friendly neighborhood liberal saved the day.

Hondo Duke Lane
August 13th, 2011, 02:10 PM
I have been enjoying the BluRay movies out and have expecially enjoyed the ones that have Duke in it. So far we can see John Wayne in The Searchers, Rio Bravo, True Grit, The Commancheros, The Green Berets, Rio Lobo, Big Jake, The Horse Soldiers, How the West was Won, The Longest Day, and Stagecoach (movies released in the US).

Here is my question; If you could pick one movie that you would like to see on BluRay starring John Wayne, what would it be?

And what five movies would you like to see out on BluRay with the Duke in it?

I'll start out by saying that the one movie I'd like to see on BluRay with Duke would be The Quiet Man. And the other four movies would be (no particular order), Red River, The Man who Shot Liberty Valance, McLintock!, and The High & The Mighty.

What are yours?

Cheers :cool: Hondo Duke Lane

Richard--W
September 5th, 2011, 09:26 PM
Those other westerns are okay but I want to see She Wore a Yellow Ribbon, Hondo, The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance, The Sons of Katie Elder, El Dorado, Chisum, and The Train Robbers on Blu-ray.

But especially Hondo, with a 3-D option on the menu.

Now, please.


Richard

ethanedwards
September 20th, 2011, 04:25 AM
We had three threads all relating to new Blu-Ray releases,
for ease, I have now edited them into two threads,
this one and:-
General- Blu-Ray Releases (Non Duke) (http://www.dukewayne.com/showthread.php?t=5396)

Paula
November 14th, 2011, 12:29 PM
Warner Bros. is releasing Fort Apache on Blu-ray on February 21! Sure hope that means She Wore a Yellow Ribbon and Rio Grande are on the way.

Press release and cover art:

Fort Apache, acclaimed for pairing one of the greatest director-star combinations in Hollywood history, gets the Warner Home Video Blu-ray treatment.

Roughhouse camaraderie, sentimental vignettes of frontier life, massive action sequences staged in Monument Valley – all are part of FortApache. So is Ford’s exploration of the West’s darker side. Themes of justice, heroism and honor that Ford would revisit in later Westerns are given free rein in this moving, thought-provoking film that, even as it salutes a legend, gives reasons to question it.

Master director John Ford, leading man John Wayne and many familiar Ford “stock company” supporting players saddle up for the first time on Blu-ray in the film that is part of the director’s famed 1948 cavalry trilogy(She Wore a Yellow Ribbon and Rio Grande are the others). Henry Fonda (The Grapes of Wrath, On Golden Pond), Shirley Temple (reunited with her director from Wee Willie Winkie), Temple’s then-current-husband John Agar, Victor McLaglen, Ward Bond and George O’Brien join Wayne in the stellar cast.

Special Features:

· Commentary by F.X. Feeney

· Vintage featurette Monument Valley: John Ford Country

Fort Apache BLU-RAY DISC™
Street Date: February 21, 2012
Order Due Date: January 17, 2012
Not Rated
Black & White
Feature Run Time: 128 minutes
Pricing: $19.98 SRP
Cat / UPC: 1000246443/ 883929222087

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Lt. Brannigan
November 14th, 2011, 02:29 PM
This means that "Yellow Ribbon" is destined fora Blu-Ray release, but it has no bearing on Rio Grande as that's owned by Lionsgate.

Paula
November 14th, 2011, 04:09 PM
Oh yes, that's right, I forgot Ford had made Rio Grande for Republic. Oh well. Maybe Lions Gate will be inspired to put out Rio Grande on Blu-ray if Fort Apache and (presumably forthcoming) She Wore a Yellow Ribbon sell a lot of copies.

mccflo99
December 31st, 2011, 08:19 PM
Hi Everyone,

To us Duke fans, it's no secret that getting quality releases of his early movies can be a chore. There is an endless supply of collections that have been released by companies such as...

Mill Creek, Delta, Pop Flix, Good Times Video, Madacy, Passport, Alpha Entertainment, Image Entertainment, Plus More...

My question is this...

Has anyone here gone through the process of buying and comparing the quality of these releases to see which set has the best quality both in terms of video and audio?

This information would be immensely valuable to me, and surely to the other members of our community.

Thanks and happy new year!
Chris Elliott

wtrayah
January 2nd, 2012, 11:31 PM
Hi Chris!
Well, I don't buy the early movies. ( if you are refering to the movies he made in the thirty's) not a big fan of those. But i can tell you about one of those on your list. My copy of the Conqueror was made by Good Times video and the quality is A+.
I also have The Barbarian and the Geisha on VHS. This was put out by a company called Key Video. Again, ( for being an older tape) quality is very good. Not sure if this helps you any, but i thought i'd throw it out there. bill

mccflo99
January 7th, 2012, 03:08 PM
Why was my new thread added to the end of this post, 16 pages deep? Seems like a great way to make sure I get no response at all :(

Chris Elliott

ethanedwards
January 7th, 2012, 03:28 PM
Why was my new thread added to the end of this post, 16 pages deep? Seems like a great way to make sure I get no response at all :(

Chris Elliott
Chris,
Sometime ago we had several threads covering DVD releases,
Duke and non Duke.
To avoid any more fragmentation, it was decided
to merge all threads appertaining to the same subject.
I notice your post has had a response,
and I feel sure members interested,
have or will take a look here

ejgreen77
January 7th, 2012, 06:59 PM
Hi Everyone,

To us Duke fans, it's no secret that getting quality releases of his early movies can be a chore. There is an endless supply of collections that have been released by companies such as...

Mill Creek, Delta, Pop Flix, Good Times Video, Madacy, Passport, Alpha Entertainment, Image Entertainment, Plus More...

My question is this...

Has anyone here gone through the process of buying and comparing the quality of these releases to see which set has the best quality both in terms of video and audio?

This information would be immensely valuable to me, and surely to the other members of our community.

Thanks and happy new year!
Chris Elliott

On a movie-by-movie basis, no, I haven't done any comparison, and I doubt anyone else has, either. These companies seem to be fairly transient, and there seem to be new ones coming and going, all the time. If you go to this (http://www.dukewayne.com/showthread.php?t=5048) thread, there are actually links to the Internet Archives, where all of Duke's public domain movies can be downloaded, free of charge. If you wanted to, you (or anyone else) could could download them and burn them to DVD yourself. In general, though, I would avoid Good Times, Madacy, and Alpha at all costs. Their products are usually not worth paying a penny for (especially Alpha). I will say that I have had generally positive experiences with Image Entertainment and Platinum Disc Corp. Hope this helps.

RoughRider
January 9th, 2012, 08:33 AM
New to Blu-ray in Europe only are: The Conqueror, Legend of the Lost, The Barbarian and the Geisha, and North to Alaska.

Circus World will be released in March... again Europe only.

Verified region-coding is unknown at this time but I have the titles on the way and will check.

RoughRider
January 17th, 2012, 05:59 AM
As posted earlier, four new Blu-ray titles have been released in Europe only. It seems few people on this forum are interested in Blu-ray, and I can understand and appreciate the reasons.

The four new titles were released by the Danish label Soul Media (3 titles) and German label Koch Media (1 title). All are licensed from Hollywood Classics, Ltd., a London-based company who have European distribution rights to many of Hollywood's classic films.

Circus World, to be released on Blu-ray in March by the French label Mediafilm, is also part of the Hollywood Classics film library, so I'll assume it will be licensed from them as well.

The titles from Soul Media are region B only; Legend of the Lost (Stadt der Verlorenen ) is region-free. All are 1080p with original English audio @ 23.976fps.

I suspect more John Wayne titles will be released in Europe, continuing to surpass what will be available in North America.

Paula
January 24th, 2012, 03:49 PM
Amazon is listing a Blu-ray release for Hondo, but without a release date. Paramount has not yet made an official announcement either.

No mention of whether this Blu-ray will include the 3-D version. They really should, since 3-D players and televisions are now available. Actually I'd love to see this re-released into theaters since so many are now 3-D enabled, too.

http://i742.photobucket.com/albums/xx61/pvitari/Hondo.jpg

Gorch
January 25th, 2012, 09:15 AM
Paula has an excellent idea about a theatrical release of a true 3D film. The only problem to me is that "Hondo" is such a short film. Maybe a double feature with "House of Wax", another 3D short movie, could lure in modern viewers.


We deal in lead, friend.

Paula
February 9th, 2012, 08:25 AM
DVD Beaver has posted its review of the Fort Apache blu-ray.

http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film3/blu-ray_reviews56/fort_apache_blu-ray.htm

Paula
February 16th, 2012, 12:35 PM
Now here is Blu-ray.com's review of the Fort Apache Blu-ray:

http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Fort-Apache-Blu-ray/33581/#Review

Make sure to click on the "screenshots" link to see 20 pictures from the Blu-ray.

P.S. If you haven't checked my last post in the She Wore a Yellow Ribbon thread -- you should. :)

wtrayah
February 16th, 2012, 04:29 PM
Is Blue Ray really that much greater? Is there that much of a difference?

Paula
February 17th, 2012, 02:21 PM
Dear Wtrayah, the answer is yes, there is a BIG difference. Blu-ray can seem so vivid and so clear that at times I think the people in the movie are actually in my living room, not just on a screen.

However, you have to have a 1080p television with a 40 inch screen at least or the improved resolution really won't make an impact. If picture quality is important to you, and you have the werewithal, then a new television is a purchase you will get a lot of pleasure from.

Not John Wayne, but John Wayne's sidekick... Bite the Bullet (with Ben Johnson, Gene Hackman, James Coburn, and Candace Bergman) comes out on Blu-ray on March 13. It's being released by a specialty label, Twilight Time, and it's only offered for sale through the Screen Archives Entertainment website, so if you're interested, go here to pre-order:

http://www.screenarchives.com/title_detail.cfm/ID/17351/BITE-THE-BULLET-1975-PRE-ORDER/

Cover art:

http://i742.photobucket.com/albums/xx61/pvitari/Ben%20Pics%202012/BitetheBullet.jpg

Inside art:

http://i742.photobucket.com/albums/xx61/pvitari/Ben%20Pics%202012/BitetheBullet-Inside.jpg

Paula
February 20th, 2012, 09:03 AM
Archivist and preservationist Robert Harris (his preservation work includes Lawrence of Arabia, Spartacus, Vertigo and My Fair Lady, and he has been hoping to restore The Alamo but the funding never came through) weighs in on the new Fort Apache blu-ray:

http://www.hometheaterforum.com/t/318619/a-few-words-about-fort-apache-in-blu-ray

wtrayah
February 23rd, 2012, 04:22 PM
Thanks for the Info Paula! Thats another thing i like about this site! Even if you have nuttin to say, you can still just sit back and read everbody's comments, exsperiences, and wisdom and learn a lot!

Gorch
March 1st, 2012, 10:32 AM
Just saw that two of Duke's movies - "Barbarian and the Geisha" and "The Big Trail" will be released as Blu Ray exclusives by Wal Mart on 5/8/12. My source is the Blu Ray site.


We deal in lead, friend.

wtrayah
March 1st, 2012, 09:13 PM
THANK YOU GORCH!!!!! Can't wait to get my copy of Barbarian and the Geisha! Now you say Blue Ray? You must be able to get it on a regular DVD too. Right?
I don't do the Blue Ray thing. Would cost me a fortune to turn them all over to
blue ray.

Gorch
March 1st, 2012, 11:06 PM
Felt the same way myself about Blu Ray. I've been through VHS, Laser Discs and DVDS. Don't know how I missed Beta, but I did. Anyway, a cheap Blu Ray player goes for under $100.00 and most of them play regular DVDs and even upgrade the picture and sound. I've been replacing my DVDs with Blu Rays only if they are around $10.00 or if they have extras otherwise not available.
Most of the titles I have purchased, like "Comancheros" are much better than the DVD versions.
Hope that these two titles get decent releases in all formats.


We deal in lead, friend.

wtrayah
March 2nd, 2012, 04:43 AM
I've seen The Big Trail before on VHS. ( what i could see of it ) the quality was terrible. hard to follow. noisy.

Paula
March 2nd, 2012, 08:32 AM
I expect these will be available from other retailers than Walmart eventually.

Love the cover of The Big Trail! Saw this on the big screen at the TCM fest a couple of years ago and it was amazing. I have the DVD but it can convey only so much of what was truly a spectacular undertaking. Looking forward to the Blu-ray though.

http://i742.photobucket.com/albums/xx61/pvitari/big_tail_blu.jpg

http://i742.photobucket.com/albums/xx61/pvitari/barbarian_geisha.jpg

MsReb
March 2nd, 2012, 10:16 AM
Paula, That is a really neat cover on The Big Trail...would love to see original pic without writing on it..

Paula
March 2nd, 2012, 12:18 PM
I suspect that Big Trail artwork is a Photoshop composite of John Wayne close-up and landscape longshot. But it would nice to see the original Wayne photo. :)

Lt. Brannigan
March 8th, 2012, 12:33 PM
I gotta get me the Barbarian and the Geisha!

Paula
March 8th, 2012, 05:58 PM
Paramount will release Hondo on Blu-ray on June 5. Looks to be just Blu-ray, though, NOT 3-D. Alas. Not that I have a 3-D television (nor am I interested in getting one). But there are folks out there who do have 3-D TVs now and I'm sure they'd love this in 3-D.

Here's an article about the filming of Hondo in 3-D:

http://www.3dfilmpf.org/info.html

http://i742.photobucket.com/albums/xx61/pvitari/Hondo-1.jpg

RoughRider
April 18th, 2012, 03:38 PM
For those interested, the Circus World Blu-ray from France has been confirmed to be region-free. The print is gorgeous, sourced from the original Technirama camera negative. It's a dual-layer BD, too, encoded at a very high bitrate at 24.00fps.

Unfortunately with the English audio one is forced to view French subtitles, forced meaning you can't turn them off.

The extras are in PAL format but that shouldn't deter Region A fans without a multi-region BD player who want to see the film the way it should be presented (minus the French subtitles, which aren't all that distracting in light of the wonderful picture quality).

RoughRider
April 21st, 2012, 05:41 AM
To coincide with the May 8th release of the Region A Blu-ray, Fox is also releasing The Barbarian and the Geisha in a 10-movie DVD box set titled John Wayne Film Collection. So for the first time, of course, the film will be available on a Region 1 DVD.

The box set will also include The Big Trail, Red River, Legend of the Lost, The Horse Soldiers, The Alamo, North to Alaska, The Comancheros, The Longest Day, and The Undefeated.

I suspect Fox, who have distribution rights to the MGM library, will include some new DVD transfers used for HD television and domestic/international Blu-rays, those that have been released.

someday
April 24th, 2012, 07:53 AM
I have heard internet rumblings about The Shootist and The Quiet Man being released on Blu-Ray this year, any truth to this? These films deserve a decent release with as many extras as possible, but so do many of Duke's films. The release of Hondo in June ( and hopefully soon after in the UK) fills me with hope that more and more films will be released on this format.

RoughRider
April 24th, 2012, 04:46 PM
I have heard internet rumblings about The Shootist and The Quiet Man being released on Blu-Ray this year, any truth to this? These films deserve a decent release with as many extras as possible, but so do many of Duke's films. The release of Hondo in June ( and hopefully soon after in the UK) fills me with hope that more and more films will be released on this format.

The rumblings are based on Illinois-based Olive Films acquiring licensing rights to some of the Republic library, including The Quiet Man. These rights were acquired directly from Paramount who seem to want out of classic film distribution.

My understanding is that Artisan still has US home video licensing rights to the Republic library, though. But who knows what goes on in a back room somewhere, changing distribution agreements. Olive Films has already released a number of classic Paramount titles, with more to come.

The industry is changing. Look at some of the European John Wayne titles on Blu-ray: the studios provide HD masters and license their product to distributors like Koch Media, Opening Euromediane Group and Soul Media instead of handling it themselves. Now, with Olive Films, we're seeing this trend in North America. It's all a good thing because it expedites such Blu-ray releases, lessening the overhead burden of the studios themselves.

Amazon US has an entry for The Quiet Man Blu-ray, with the notice "Sign up to be notified when this item becomes available."

So maybe something is in the pipeline?

wtrayah
May 6th, 2012, 09:09 AM
If anybody sees The Barbarian and the Geisha, available on dvd format, ( not on blue ray and not in a box set) Region 1, let me know. iv'e decided not to go to blue rays. the difference is not enough for me to change. thanks.

Dooley
May 6th, 2012, 05:47 PM
Already pre-ordered my copy of hondo! If it's as good as Fort Apache on Blu Ray we're in for a treat. Hondo is one of my fave Duke films.

Dooley
May 6th, 2012, 08:04 PM
If anybody sees The Barbarian and the Geisha, available on dvd format, ( not on blue ray and not in a box set) Region 1, let me know. iv'e decided not to go to blue rays. the difference is not enough for me to change. thanks.

Barbarian and the Geisha is widely available here in the UK. May be region free, I can check my one, if you're interested. I also got my copy of the barbarian and the geisha CD, which has just been re-released for the first time in ages, limited to 1,000 copies so move fast if you're interested in the music from The Duke's films.

Off to Watch King of Pecos now for the first time, a tough one to track down here in the UK.

wtrayah
May 7th, 2012, 05:07 PM
Thanks Dooley! I'll wait and see what happens here. I can always get on Amazon UK and order it if i have to later on.

RoughRider
May 8th, 2012, 04:48 AM
Thanks Dooley! I'll wait and see what happens here. I can always get on Amazon UK and order it if i have to later on.

You could buy the Blu-ray which also includes the DVD version.

http://www.walmart.com/ip/The-Barbarian-And-The-Geisha-Blu-ray-DVD-Exclusive/20531023

Dooley
May 8th, 2012, 06:10 AM
You could buy the Blu-ray which also includes the DVD version.

http://www.walmart.com/ip/The-Barbarian-And-The-Geisha-Blu-ray-DVD-Exclusive/20531023

Thanks Rough Rider.

I'll be interested if anyone has bought these to see if they've been properly remastered for Blu Ray?
How the West was Won and Rio Lobo for instance are fantastic transfers as is Fort Apache. Horse Soldiers on the other hand is a little ropey in places and not massively better than the DVD.

RoughRider
May 8th, 2012, 08:35 AM
Thanks Rough Rider.

I'll be interested if anyone has bought these to see if they've been properly remastered for Blu Ray?
How the West was Won and Rio Lobo for instance are fantastic transfers as is Fort Apache. Horse Soldiers on the other hand is a little ropey in places and not massively better than the DVD.

I have the Danish Blu-ray of The Barbarian and the Geisha, and find it disappointing because, in my opinion, it isn't encoded very well. The print itself is lovely, albeit a little grainy, but does suffer from less than stellar AVC encoding. Although licensed from Fox, the video was supplied by Hollywood Classics Ltd. and the BD distributed in Scandinavia by Soul Media.

I should mention that Soul Media's BD of North to Alaska has a mastering flaw: every 1000th frame is repeated throughout the entire film, causing a very slight pause about every 42 seconds. This defect ended up on the DVD, too (it's a combo pack), although at a different interval because of the different frame rate. I sent Soul Media an e-mail and they said nobody has complained about such a defect. But it illustrates a lower level of quality supplied by Hollywood Classics Ltd.

The Region A BD of The Barbarian and the Geisha, released today exclusively to US Walmart stores, is all Fox so to speak. Hopefully they've put more effort into the encoding.

The Danish BD and Japanese DVD (an official Fox release) both have 2-channel stereo audio, yet typical of Fox's CinemaScope the 4-track stereo soundtrack is nowhere to be heard except for a little matrixing. The UK DVD from Fox has 2-channel stereo, too.

Walmart Canada doesn't carry the new title, but it's supposed to go into general release after Walmart US's exclusivity deal. I'd be curious to know if the encoding is better and if it has the original audio (unlikely).

Dooley
May 8th, 2012, 09:52 AM
The Region A BD of The Barbarian and the Geisha, released today exclusively to US Walmart stores, is all Fox so to speak. Hopefully they've put more effort into the encoding.

Thanks so much Rough Rider that's a huge help all round.
I am a self confessed techno freak so it's good to hear there are others out there.
I have been tempted with the Barbarian and the Geisha and North to Alaska but it sounds like they're worth giving a miss, hopefully studio based releases will follow.

Have you tried the Legends of the Lost Blu ray?

I look forward to someone posting a technical review of the walmart Barbarian and the Geisha release.

RoughRider
May 8th, 2012, 04:21 PM
Thanks so much Rough Rider that's a huge help all round.
I am a self confessed techno freak so it's good to hear there are others out there.
I have been tempted with the Barbarian and the Geisha and North to Alaska but it sounds like they're worth giving a miss, hopefully studio based releases will follow.

Have you tried the Legends of the Lost Blu ray?

I look forward to someone posting a technical review of the walmart Barbarian and the Geisha release.

Yes, I have the Legend of the Lost Blu-ray from Koch Media.

It's a lovely print, and I can think of no negative comments. It's region-free, too.

The film itself is encoded at 23.97 fps. The extras are 25.00 fps, which are the English and German trailers and a slideshow of stills, posters and lobby cards.

It has both German and English mono audio along with the same for the subtitles.

Like the Soul Media BDs (The Barbarian and the Geisha and North to Alaska), this too is licensed from Hollywood Classics Ltd. on behalf of Twentieth Century Fox Home Entertainment. Soul Media's The Conqueror BD is licensed from Hollywood Classics Ltd. on behalf of Universal Pictures International.

To get these BDs I went through private sellers. It was only later that I discovered anyone can use their normal Amazon login and buy from their international sites. There'll be a language barrier to traverse but it's 'doable'. Of course on this side of the pond one must have a region-free player for those titles locked to region B.

Dooley
May 8th, 2012, 04:41 PM
Yes, I have the Legend of the Lost Blu-ray from Koch Media.

The film itself is encoded at 23.97 fps. The extras are 25.00 fps, which are the English and German trailers and a slideshow of stills, posters and lobby cards.

It has both German and English mono audio along with the same for the subtitles.

That is a great help; thanks again Roughrider!
I take it the English audio doesn't have forced subtitles as per the French release of Circus World?

All sounds like it's one to get.

Is anyone else stunned at the choice of films they've released to date on Blu Ray!?! The Conqueror and The Barbarian and the Geisha are hardly high points in the Duke's career!

wtrayah
May 8th, 2012, 04:55 PM
Hello RoughRider! Read your recent comments, thanks for the Info! I had considered purchasing my copy of The Barbarian and The Geisha through that Hollywood classics but not i won't. I'll wait. Did buy my copy of Circus World through them, I'ts OK, print is good, it's a DVD which i did not have. Curious, where abouts in Canada are you? That's a big country! Are you near Montreal? that's a hour and a half from me! bill

RoughRider
May 8th, 2012, 05:29 PM
That is a great help; thanks again Roughrider!
I take it the English audio doesn't have forced subtitles as per the French release of Circus World?

All sounds like it's one to get.

Is anyone else stunned at the choice of films they've released to date on Blu Ray!?! The Conqueror and The Barbarian and the Geisha are hardly high points in the Duke's career!

Nope, Legend of the Lost has no forced subtitles like the French release of Circus World.

It should be noted that the subtitles for Circus World aren't hard-encoded directly onto the print itself. By re-ripping the BD they can be removed, but this is something most people won't do of course. I removed them and then re-encoded the film using the x264 encoder. My BD player can play ISOs directly from a USB hard drive, so there was no need to burn the film to a BD disc.

The x264 encoder is so good that I can't tell the difference. I threw AviSynth's Undot filter at the 211 GB master file (in Lagarith lossless codec format) before encoding to AVC.

Call me crazy but I really don't want to see subtitles if I don't want to.

RoughRider
May 8th, 2012, 05:47 PM
Hello RoughRider! Read your recent comments, thanks for the Info! I had considered purchasing my copy of The Barbarian and The Geisha through that Hollywood classics but not i won't. I'll wait. Did buy my copy of Circus World through them, I'ts OK, print is good, it's a DVD which i did not have. Curious, where abouts in Canada are you? That's a big country! Are you near Montreal? that's a hour and a half from me! bill

I live in the outskirts of Vancouver just above Seattle. Wayne used to bring his yacht up to this neck of the woods. Just across the border in Port Angeles is the John Wayne Marina.

You must have a region-free player -- more people should have one!

Dooley
May 8th, 2012, 06:13 PM
Nope, Legend of the Lost has no forced subtitles like the French release of Circus World.

It should be noted that the subtitles for Circus World aren't hard-encoded directly onto the print itself. By re-ripping the BD they can be removed, but this is something most people won't do of course. I removed them and then re-encoded the film using the x264 encoder.

Call me crazy but I really don't want to see subtitles if I don't want to.

Totally, totally agree with you on the subtitles front. I've ripped a few Blu Rays before for exactly that reason!
I'm working my way through my older DVDs and ripping them onto an external drive so I can put them in the loft to create some space so I hear where your coming from.

RoughRider
May 9th, 2012, 03:09 AM
I've had a chance to sit down and look at the 10-disc John Wayne Collection from Fox.

The bad news is that 9 of the 10 titles are simply re-issues of previous releases, right down to using the exact DVD masters (dates shown in parentheses).

The Big Trail (2003), Red River (1997), Legend of the Lost (2002), The Horse Soldiers (2001), The Alamo (2000), North to Alaska (2003), The Comancheros (2003), The Longest Day (1999), and The Undefeated (2003).

So instead of getting some new and better prints, there's nothing for these titles. In the least Fox could have included an anamorphic version of The Horse Soldiers instead of the 4x3 letterboxed version. Six of the 9 titles have been released on Blu-ray, but none of the new masters made it to DVD in this collection.

The good news is that The Barbarian and the Geisha looks lovely and to my surprise has the original 4-track audio soundtrack. The extras are as follows: original theatrical trailer, 4 Fox Movietone newsreels and a photo gallery.

Duke fans who have the other 9 titles should stay away of course. It's best to buy the combo pack (Blu-ray/DVD) from Walmart.

Dooley
May 9th, 2012, 06:25 AM
I've had a chance to sit down and look at the 10-disc John Wayne Collection from Fox.

The good news is that The Barbarian and the Geisha looks lovely and to my surprise has the original 4-track audio soundtrack. The extras are as follows: original theatrical trailer, 4 Fox Movietone newsreels and a photo gallery.

Duke fans who have the other 9 titles should stay away of course. It's best to buy the combo pack (Blu-ray/DVD) from Walmart.

Another useful update.

Does anyone know if Walmart do international shipping as it sounds like a Blu Ray purchase?

Regards,

Dooley

WaynamoJim
May 10th, 2012, 08:08 PM
I was in Walmart today and not only saw the Blu-ray edition of Barbarian And The Geisha, but also The Big Trail. Both were priced at $12.96 and were in a Blu-ray/ DVD combo pack, which makes it convenient for viewing anywhere.

Paula
May 11th, 2012, 12:28 AM
Rio Grande on Blu-ray (and standard DVD) on August 7!

http://i742.photobucket.com/albums/xx61/pvitari/Ben%20Pics%202012/riograndeblu.jpg

PRESS RELEASE FROM OLIVE FILMS:

FROM THE DIRECTOR OF THE SEARCHERS & SHE WORE A YELLOW RIBBON
REMASTERED IN HD FROM AN ARCHIVAL 35MM PRINT
FIRST TIME ON Blu-ray©
DAY & DATE (DVD and Blu-ray)

JOHN WAYNE | MAUREEN O’HARA in
RIO GRANDE (1950)
Directed by JOHN FORD (THE GRAPES OF WRATH)
with BEN JOHNSON | VICTOR McLAGLEN | HARRY CAREY JR. | CHILL WILLS

PREBOOK 7/10/12 STREET 8/7/12

DVD UPC# 887090044905 CAT# OF449 $19.95srp
BLU-RAY UPC# 887090045001 CAT# OF450 $29.95srp

In the John Ford (The Quiet Man) classic, John Wayne and Maureen O’Hara (First of five films together) are embroiled in an epic battle with the Apaches and each other. Wayne leads his Calvary troops to the Rio Grande to fight a warring tribe. His toughest battle lies ahead when his unorthodox plan to outwit the elusive Apaches leads to a possible court-martial. Locked in a bloody war, he must fight not only to save his family, but also to redeem his honor. This was the third and final of the John Wayne/John Ford Cavalry films, which started with Fort Apache and was followed by She Wore a Yellow Ribbon. The great supporting cast includes Ben Johnson, Harry Carey Jr., Victor McLaglen and Chill Wills.

1950 | B&W | 105 Minutes | Not Rated

SPECIAL FEATURES:
• THE MAKING OF HIGH NOON (1993 – 23 MINUTES) - NARRATED BY LEONARD MALTIN
Includes Interviews with MICHAEL WAYNE | BEN JOHNSON | HARRY CAREY JR.
• THEATRICAL TRAILER

An Argosy Production JOHN WAYNE MAUREEN O’HARA in “RIO GRANDE” co-starring BEN JOHNSON CLAUDE JARMAN JR. HARRY CAREY JR. CHILL WILLS J. CARROLL NAISH VICTOR McLAGLEN

Screenplay by JAMES KEVIN McGUINNESS Based on a Saturday Evening Post Story by JAMES WARNER BELLAH

Produced by JOHN FORD and MARIAN C. COOPER Directed by JOHN FORD
RIO GRANDE © 1950 MELANGE PICTURES LLC. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED.


(Olive Films will also release Nicholas Ray's Johnny Guitar on Blu-ray and DVD on August 7. Olive Films has licensed for Blu-ray/DVD release about 200 titles from Lionsgate, which currently owns much of the Republic Library.)

Lt. Brannigan
May 11th, 2012, 01:10 AM
Rio Grande on Blu-ray (and standard DVD) on August 7!
SPECIAL FEATURES:
• THE MAKING OF HIGH NOON (1993 – 23 MINUTES) - NARRATED BY LEONARD MALTIN
Includes Interviews with MICHAEL WAYNE | BEN JOHNSON | HARRY CAREY JR.
• THEATRICAL TRAILER



Really? IS this a typo or from the actual press release?

Dooley
May 11th, 2012, 03:20 AM
Really? IS this a typo or from the actual press release?

Agreed! Does seem mighty strange. However, glad to see these classics being released on Blu Ray, as long as they do a decent job on the re-mastering.

RoughRider
May 11th, 2012, 04:18 AM
It's not so strange when you consider High Noon is part of the Republic/Paramount library.

Still... a bad filler -- Blu-ray on a budget. There would probably be no money to be made by investing in a proper documentary for the actual film.

Paula
May 11th, 2012, 06:36 AM
It's a typo -- they've now released a corrected release. Here's the corrected language:

• THE MAKING OF RIO GRANDE (1993 – 23 MINUTES) - NARRATED BY LEONARD MALTIN
Includes Interviews with MICHAEL WAYNE | BEN JOHNSON | HARRY CAREY JR.

Paula
May 11th, 2012, 06:39 AM
P.S. Olive Films is also releasing High Noon on Blu-ray and DVD, on July 17. That release will have a "Making of High Noon" featurette:

http://www.classicflix.com/high-noon-bluray-60th-anniversary-edition-p-12486.html

Dooley
May 11th, 2012, 06:39 AM
It's a typo -- they've now released a corrected release. Here's the corrected language:

• THE MAKING OF RIO GRANDE (1993 – 23 MINUTES) - NARRATED BY LEONARD MALTIN
Includes Interviews with MICHAEL WAYNE | BEN JOHNSON | HARRY CAREY JR.

Thanks for the update Paula. That makes much more sense.
Hopefully it'll be a good transfer.

dooley

Dooley
May 11th, 2012, 09:34 AM
That's very true!
Where abouts did you get the information on rio grande as I've just been on the olive website and cannot find any mention of it!
High noon is on there though?

Dooley

Paula
May 11th, 2012, 11:24 PM
I know Olive hasn't posted the info to their website or Facebook page -- strange. Hopefully they'll get it up there soon. But Olive did send out press releases yesterday about Rio Grande and Johnny Guitar, and the information has been posted at all the DVD information websites -- Home Theater Forum, blu-ray.com, and classicflix.com just to name a few. Plus the two press releases were also forwarded to the DVD Beaver e-mail list.

Hondo Duke Lane
May 12th, 2012, 12:24 AM
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51t-JY9T%2BBL.jpg


This film is released on DVD/Blu-Ray. I've seen it at Wal-mart for $12.99. So I included it in my collection. Not a great movie, but it is Duke, so I now have it. I didn't have to buy the box set.

Cheers :cool: Hondo

Dooley
May 12th, 2012, 04:12 AM
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51t-JY9T%2BBL.jpg


This film is released on DVD/Blu-Ray. I've seen it at Wal-mart for $12.99. So I included it in my collection. Not a great movie, but it is Duke, so I now have it. I didn't have to buy the box set.

Cheers :cool: Hondo

Thanks for sharing Hondo,

I've ordered The Big Trail also, had to pay through the nose as Walmart doesn't ship internationally. One of the downsides of being on the other side of the pond!
Hondo is the release I'm really looking forward to.

Dooley

Hondo Duke Lane
May 12th, 2012, 02:59 PM
Thanks for sharing Hondo,

I've ordered The Big Trail also, had to pay through the nose as Walmart doesn't ship internationally. One of the downsides of being on the other side of the pond!
Hondo is the release I'm really looking forward to.

Dooley

Agreed with that. Looking forward to the release of my namesake.

Cheers :cool: Hondo

wtrayah
May 12th, 2012, 04:00 PM
Can somebody exsplain to me what they mean by Combo? Does this mean there is a blue ray disc and a regular format disc inside? Or do you bottom line have to have a blue ray machine? ( i'm referring to the Barbarian and the Geisha DVD at Walmarts.)
thanks.

MKotyk24
May 12th, 2012, 04:14 PM
I bought the new Pirates of the Caribbean DVD last fall and it came with 2 DVDs. A regular DVD and a Blue-Ray disc. This is the manufacturer's way of telling us that our DVD players are about to expire and we might need to invest in a Blue-Ray player. lol

Hondo Duke Lane
May 12th, 2012, 04:22 PM
Can somebody exsplain to me what they mean by Combo? Does this mean there is a blue ray disc and a regular format disc inside? Or do you bottom line have to have a blue ray machine? ( i'm referring to the Barbarian and the Geisha DVD at Walmarts.)
thanks.

In reference to The Barbarian and the Geisha the combo is two discs, one blu-ray, the other disc is the DVD. As for the format, it really depends on what they include on the discs.

I think it's really cool of them to have both. I have a sister in-law who loves movies and does not have or want a blu-ray player. And I can have that version to watch myself.

Cheers :cool: Hondo

WaynamoJim
May 12th, 2012, 06:55 PM
In reference to The Barbarian and the Geisha the combo is two discs, one blu-ray, the other disc is the DVD. As for the format, it really depends on what they include on the discs.

I think it's really cool of them to have both. I have a sister in-law who loves movies and does not have or want a blu-ray player. And I can have that version to watch myself.

Cheers :cool: Hondo

Same here, Hondo. I have 2 Blu-ray players and 2 DVD players. So it comes in handy when there's both formats in one package. Or if one of my kids wants to borrow a movie that just came out, but they don't have Blu-ray, so they can still see it in the DVD format. And I try to always buy the combo pks just for that purpose.

Dooley
May 12th, 2012, 07:40 PM
Same here, Hondo. I have 2 Blu-ray players and 2 DVD players. So it comes in handy when there's both formats in one package. Or if one of my kids wants to borrow a movie that just came out, but they don't have Blu-ray, so they can still see it in the DVD format. And I try to always buy the combo pks just for that purpose.

The combo releases are also great when you're on the move.
I had She Wore a Yellow Ribbon and The Searchers on the ipad for the 11 hour flight from London to Vegas! It's much easier to rip from DVD than Blu Ray.

I also had Rango on there. Has anyone else seen it and been amused at the John Ford and Sergio Leone nature of some of the shots; it's very clever and funny.

Off topic but I was on a roll! ;-)

wtrayah
May 12th, 2012, 09:24 PM
Thanks Hondo! Gotta saddle up the horses and head out to walmarts!

Gorch
May 12th, 2012, 11:24 PM
Another thought about the combo packs is that quite a few young families have mini vans with built in TVs and DVD players. A lot of the Disney titles allow the parents to use the DVD in the vehicle and the Blu Ray on their home system.
I too have shared the DVD with my kids and kept the Ray, but the price has to be sensible.
Heading to Wal Mart tomorrow for Barbarian.



We deal in lead, friend.

wtrayah
May 14th, 2012, 04:58 PM
Well i bought my copy of the Barbarian and the Geisha at Walmarts yesterday. Two discs inside, thats cool. Haven't had a chance to watch it yet, but i have to agree with Ringo, NOT impressed with these cheap cases.

Dooley
May 15th, 2012, 12:59 AM
Well i bought my copy of the Barbarian and the Geisha at Walmarts yesterday. Two discs inside, thats cool. Haven't had a chance to watch it yet, but i have to agree with Ringo, NOT impressed with these cheap cases.

It's quite a recent thing the 'Eco' cheap boxes made with thinner plastic. I tend to swap mine over with better quality ones, I bought a 100 a while back in one go so they end up pretty cheap and still going, I felt its worth it to protect the discs.

I'm hoping my copy of Barbarian and the Geisha won't take too long to make its way over the pond to the rainy UK. Anyone would think I'd never seen the film before!

wtrayah
May 15th, 2012, 03:22 PM
My copy of Circus World on DVD came from Merry ole England! Took 3 weeks!

Dooley
May 15th, 2012, 03:33 PM
My copy of Circus World on DVD came from Merry ole England! Took 3 weeks!

That's not too bad, got plenty of other Duke films to watch in the meantime. Still wading through the huge 34 film Universal box set! :-)

someday
May 17th, 2012, 02:34 PM
Thanks very much for your very informative reply. This site really is full of people with a great deal of knowledge. Thanks again Roughrider.

Dooley
May 20th, 2012, 06:42 AM
My Walmart copies of The Big Trail and Barbarian and the Geisha arrived today.
Super speedy 7 days turnaround to the UK. My Sunday viewing has just been organized ;-)

wtrayah
May 20th, 2012, 07:35 AM
WOW! Only 7 days! Did you pay extra for that speedy service Dooley?

Dooley
May 20th, 2012, 08:12 AM
WOW! Only 7 days! Did you pay extra for that speedy service Dooley?

Nope, standard delivery!
I ended up having to order from a marketplace seller on Amazon.com as Walmart don't ship outside the USA and couldn't find them for sale anywhere else. Looking forward to The Big Trail, think I'll watch Barbarian and the Geisha first as I think after The Big Trail it'll seem somewhat lacklustre!

wtrayah
May 20th, 2012, 11:51 AM
Sounds like a plan! Enjoy your Sunday!

Dooley
May 20th, 2012, 01:08 PM
Sounds like a plan! Enjoy your Sunday!

Will do! Hondo should be on it's way pretty soon which will be, hopefully if they haven't bodged the remastering, a real treat!

wtrayah
May 29th, 2012, 10:00 PM
I don't have any intention of switching over either! Unless someday i have to! I am glad i swithed from VHS to DVD, Quality is much better and they take less room! I am curious though, Is there a easy way to see what is available on JW on blue ray? and what is coming out in the future? I'd be curious to see how long it will take to convert his movies to blue ray. Some will never make it i'm sure!

ethanedwards
May 30th, 2012, 04:44 AM
I don't have any intention of switching over either! Unless someday i have to! I am glad i swithed from VHS to DVD, Quality is much better and they take less room! I am curious though, Is there a easy way to see what is available on JW on blue ray? and what is coming out in the future? I'd be curious to see how long it will take to convert his movies to blue ray. Some will never make it i'm sure!
Bill, I have moved your post here,
the thread dedicated to JW releases on Blu Ray

Dooley
June 9th, 2012, 07:23 AM
I have the Danish Blu-ray of The Barbarian and the Geisha, and find it disappointing because, in my opinion, it isn't encoded very well. The print itself is lovely, albeit a little grainy, but does suffer from less than stellar AVC encoding. Although licensed from Fox, the video was supplied by Hollywood Classics Ltd. and the BD distributed in Scandinavia by Soul Media.

I should mention that Soul Media's BD of North to Alaska has a mastering flaw: every 1000th frame is repeated throughout the entire film, causing a very slight pause about every 42 seconds. This defect ended up on the DVD, too (it's a combo pack), although at a different interval because of the different frame rate. I sent Soul Media an e-mail and they said nobody has complained about such a defect. But it illustrates a lower level of quality supplied by Hollywood Classics Ltd.

The Region A BD of The Barbarian and the Geisha, released today exclusively to US Walmart stores, is all Fox so to speak. Hopefully they've put more effort into the encoding.

The Danish BD and Japanese DVD (an official Fox release) both have 2-channel stereo audio, yet typical of Fox's CinemaScope the 4-track stereo soundtrack is nowhere to be heard except for a little matrixing. The UK DVD from Fox has 2-channel stereo, too.

Walmart Canada doesn't carry the new title, but it's supposed to go into general release after Walmart US's exclusivity deal. I'd be curious to know if the encoding is better and if it has the original audio (unlikely).


Hi Rough Rider,
I bought a copy of North to Alaska, against my better judgment, and my blu ray has the same, frustrating glitch!
Did you rip the Blu ray to see if it ironed it out? Only asking as I've had a few DVDs in the past that wouldn't play on any machines so I ripped them and they worked fine!

Richard--W
June 10th, 2012, 11:21 AM
I am disappointed, and more than a little annoyed, that Paramound did not include a 3-D option on the new Blu-ray of HONDO. It is one of the finest and most technically accomplished stereoscopic films ever made. I should know, I attended industry screenings of the 3-D restoration.

Learn about John Wayne's success as a 3-D pioneer at my friends' website here:

http://www.3dfilmarchive.com/home/hondo-3-d-release

http://i1035.photobucket.com/albums/a432/Richard--W/Hondo1953-WB-half.jpg

RoughRider
June 11th, 2012, 06:08 PM
Hi Rough Rider,
I bought a copy of North to Alaska, against my better judgment, and my blu ray has the same, frustrating glitch!
Did you rip the Blu ray to see if it ironed it out? Only asking as I've had a few DVDs in the past that wouldn't play on any machines so I ripped them and they worked fine!

No, I didn't rip the Blu-ray, which wouldn't do anything to fix the problem. It's a mastering flaw and as such would take some work to delete every 1000th frame and recompile. AviSynth can delete every x number of frames, so technically it can be done.

I was really hoping they would re-issue the Blu-ray without the flaw.

Send an e-mail to Soul Media like I did and complain.

Dooley
June 12th, 2012, 01:35 AM
No, I didn't rip the Blu-ray, which wouldn't do anything to fix the problem. It's a mastering flaw and as such would take some work to delete every 1000th frame and recompile. AviSynth can delete every x number of frames, so technically it can be done.

I was really hoping they would re-issue the Blu-ray without the flaw.

Send an e-mail to Soul Media like I did and complain.

Sounds like a plan.
It's hugely frustrating as the transfer itself is great, I just ended up waiting for te glitch rather than enjoying the film. Thanks for the info.

someday
June 16th, 2012, 05:58 AM
It would seem that "The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance" is to be released on Blu-ray in Germany, is this correct? Hopefully not long till it gets released in the USA, and will hopefully be region free. Anyone from the UK feeling like we are missing out on all these Blu-ray releases lately?

Dooley
June 16th, 2012, 06:10 AM
It would seem that "The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance" is to be released on Blu-ray in Germany, is this correct? Hopefully not long till it gets released in the USA, and will hopefully be region free. Anyone from the UK feeling like we are missing out on all these Blu-ray releases lately?

Hi there and welcome,
We're actually better off in the UK as all the European releases are region B or region free so we can watch them all!
You can also order them directly from Amazon.de which is a breeze.:wink_smile:

someday
June 17th, 2012, 07:22 PM
Thanks, Dooley. I had never thought of it that way. Maybe we are alot better of than I had first thought, thanks again.

Lt. Brannigan
July 3rd, 2012, 07:22 PM
Four of Duke's Three Mesquiteers (http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=9066) movies are arriving on DVD/Blu-Ray!


Overland Stage Raiders

Soon after gold shipments from a mining town are hijacked, the Three Mesquiteers buy a plane to fly the gold out. The owner of the shipping line brings in Eastern gangsters to thwart them. Overland Stage Raiders marks the final film appearance of legendary silent star Louise Brooks (Pandora's Box (http://www.blu-ray.com/dvd/Pandoras-Box-DVD/18413/), Diary of a Lost Girl (http://www.blu-ray.com/dvd/Diary-of-a-Lost-Girl-DVD/30540/)).

The Night Riders

Talbot (George Douglas) uses a phony land grant to rule thirteen million acres, taxing everyone heavily and evicting those who won't pay. The Three Mesquiteers becomes mysterious "night riders" to fight this evil.

Red River Range

The Cattlemen's Association has called in the Mesquiteers to find cattle rustlers. They get Tex Riley to pose as Stony so Stony can arrive posing as a wanted outlaw. This gets Stony into the gang of rustlers and he alerts Tucson and Lullaby as to the next raid. But Hartley is on hand and unknown to anyone is the rustler's boss and he joins the posse with a plan that will do away with the Mesquiteers.

Three Texas Steers

Nancy Evans (Carole Landis), lovely circus owner, has a ranch that she's never visited, but for sentimental reasons won't sell to Mike Abbott. Her partners, secretly in league with Abbott, sabotage the circus to force Nancy to sell the ranch; instead, she goes there to live. Will her neighbors, the Three Mesquiteers, be a match for the secret swindlers? And what's so valuable about that run-down ranch anyway?

Dooley
July 3rd, 2012, 07:52 PM
Four of Duke's Three Mesquiteers (http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=9066) movies are arriving on DVD/Blu-Ray!

Thanks for the heads up, although its a random selection to say the least!
My copies are so ropey they are barely watchable so I'm not holding out much hope for a Fort Apache level of quality transfer.

What I do not understand are the Blu ray releases.
We're getting Three Texas Steers, which has some guy in a Gorilla suit as a main character, but no Alamo, Quiet Man or Red River for instance!
I know there are issues with some titles but there are loads of classic Duke films which deserve remastering before these.

Lt. Brannigan
July 3rd, 2012, 08:57 PM
Thanks for the heads up, although its a random selection to say the least!
My copies are so ropey they are barely watchable so I'm not holding out much hope for a Fort Apache level of quality transfer.

What I do not understand are the Blu ray releases.
We're getting Three Texas Steers, which has some guy in a Gorilla suit as a main character, but no Alamo, Quiet Man or Red River for instance!
I know there are issues with some titles but there are loads of classic Duke films which deserve remastering before these.

Here's the deal, Olive Films, the studio releasing these DVD's, has licensed the Republic library from Paramount. These titles they are releasing, have never been released on region one DVD, in addition these titles represent 4 out of 8 of the Mesquiteer movies Duke made right before Stagecoach. As such these are the last of his 'B' movies.

As for the other movies you listed,
The Alamo is owned by MGM, and they are not interested in restoring it, making the current DVD the only option.

Red River is also owned by MGM

The Quiet Man is part of the Republic library so I fully expect to see a restored print released on DVD/Blu-Ray by next Christmas.

Dooley
July 4th, 2012, 01:37 AM
Here's the deal, Olive Films, the studio releasing these DVD's, has licensed the Republic library from Paramount. These titles they are releasing, have never been released on region one DVD, in addition these titles represent 4 out of 8 of the Mesquiteer movies Duke made right before Stagecoach. As such these are the last of his 'B' movies.

As for the other movies you listed,
The Alamo is owned by MGM, and they are not interested in restoring it, making the current DVD the only option.

Red River is also owned by MGM

The Quiet Man is part of the Republic library so I fully expect to see a restored print released on DVD/Blu-Ray by next Christmas.

Totally understand re the 3 pictures I mentioned, I just picked them randomly as examples.
Here's hoping they do Angel and the Badman, Dark Command and Sands of Iwo Jima soon. Now that would be fantastic!

Paula
July 13th, 2012, 02:04 PM
First two reviews of the upcoming (August 7) Blu-ray of Rio Grande:

Blu-ray.com: http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Rio-Grande-Blu-ray/44972/#Review

DVDbeaver.com: http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film4/blu-ray_reviews57/rio_grande_blu-ray.htm


Lots of pictures at each review. A standard DVD will also be released on August 7.

BatjacAuburn
July 13th, 2012, 03:21 PM
First two reviews of the upcoming (August 7) Blu-ray of Rio Grande:

Blu-ray.com: http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Rio-Grande-Blu-ray/44972/#Review

DVDbeaver.com: http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film4/blu-ray_reviews57/rio_grande_blu-ray.htm


Lots of pictures at each review. A standard DVD will also be released on August 7.

Not real fond of the cover art. Duke's hat is all wrong. Take away the crossed sabres and it looks more like a cover for Hondo or El Dorado.

Dooley
July 13th, 2012, 05:36 PM
Not real fond of the cover art. Duke's hat is all wrong. Take away the crossed sabres and it looks more like a cover for Hondo or El Dorado.

Totally agree, poor choice of poster art for the cover. It is from an original release but not one that I'm fond of. Where's the moustache for a start!
Hopefully all this will fade away when we see how fantastic it looks on Blu ray.
I may do my own cover if I find I can't live with it.:wink_smile:

Paula
July 14th, 2012, 11:52 PM
Here are the Blu-ray cover art and details for those upcoming Three Mesquiteer releases. (They will also be released on standard DVD.)

http://i742.photobucket.com/albums/xx61/pvitari/nightriders.jpg

The Night Riders (Blu-Ray) (1939)
Starring: John Wayne (http://www.classicflix.com/advanced_search_result.php?actor=435), Ray Corrigan (http://www.classicflix.com/advanced_search_result.php?actor=9308), Max Terhune (http://www.classicflix.com/advanced_search_result.php?actor=9309), Doreen McKay (http://www.classicflix.com/advanced_search_result.php?actor=132618), Ruth Rogers (http://www.classicflix.com/advanced_search_result.php?actor=128169), George Douglas (http://www.classicflix.com/advanced_search_result.php?actor=23336), Tom Tyler (http://www.classicflix.com/advanced_search_result.php?actor=2005), Kermit Maynard (http://www.classicflix.com/advanced_search_result.php?actor=9245), Sammy McKim (http://www.classicflix.com/advanced_search_result.php?actor=9349), Walter Wills (http://www.classicflix.com/advanced_search_result.php?actor=9312), Ethan Laidlaw (http://www.classicflix.com/advanced_search_result.php?actor=2524), Edward Peil Sr. (http://www.classicflix.com/advanced_search_result.php?actor=9243), Tom London (http://www.classicflix.com/advanced_search_result.php?actor=1254), Jack Ingram (http://www.classicflix.com/advanced_search_result.php?actor=27), Bill Nestell (http://www.classicflix.com/advanced_search_result.php?actor=9215) Director: George Sherman (http://www.classicflix.com/advanced_search_result.php?director=482&keywords=+) Genre: Blu-Ray (http://www.classicflix.com/bluray-c-15.html), Westerns (http://www.classicflix.com/bluray-westerns-c-15_456.html) Year: 1939 (http://www.classicflix.com/advanced_search_result.php?keywords=+&yfrom=1939&yto=1939) Studio: Olive Films (http://www.classicflix.com/advanced_search_result.php?studio=2631&keywords=+) Length: 56 minutes Release Date: October 2, 2012 Rating: NR Format: DVD Misc: NTSC, Full Screen, Black & White Language: English(Original Language)

SYNOPSIS:
In The Night Riders (the fifth of eight Wayne Mesquiteers films), a crooked gambler (George Douglas), impersonating Don Luis de Serrano, establishes himself as a dictator within the United States with a phony land grant dating back to Phillip of Spain. With an army of hired gunmen he evicts all the townspeople off his “land” who fail to meet his tax demands. After their appeal to President James Garfield in turned down, our evicted heroes become the masked avengers nicknamed The Night Riders; modern-day Robin Hoods, stealing from the land baron’s goons and giving back to the oppressed farmers. Featuring Doreen McKay and Ruth Rogers.

The Three Mesquiteers was the umbrella title for a series of fifty-one B-westerns released between 1936 and 1943. The films featured the characters Stony Brooke, Tucson Smith and Lullaby Joslin or Rusty Joslin as the threesome; played by many B-western stars of that era.

In 1938, John Wayne took over for Robert Livingston as Stony Brooke and starred in eight Mesquiteers films between 1938 and 1939, he was joined by Ray Corrigan as Tucson Smith and Max Terhune as Lullaby Joslin for the first six and Raymond Hatton as Rusty Joslin for the last two… all eight films were directed by George Sherman (Big Jake). John Ford’s Stagecoach was perfectly sandwiched between the eight films and John Wayne portrayal of the outlaw gunfighter made him a superstar and ended Wayne’s Stony Brooke run… Livingston was rehired as Brooke and went on to make fourteen more Mesquiteers films and for an incredible total of twenty-nine.

NO BONUS FEATURES

http://i742.photobucket.com/albums/xx61/pvitari/overlandstageraiders.jpg

Overland Stage Raiders (Blu-Ray) (1938)
Starring: John Wayne (http://www.classicflix.com/advanced_search_result.php?actor=435), Ray Corrigan (http://www.classicflix.com/advanced_search_result.php?actor=9308), Max Terhune (http://www.classicflix.com/advanced_search_result.php?actor=9309), Louise Brooks (http://www.classicflix.com/advanced_search_result.php?actor=5731), Anthony Marsh (http://www.classicflix.com/advanced_search_result.php?actor=75), John Archer (http://www.classicflix.com/advanced_search_result.php?actor=5422), Gordon Hart (http://www.classicflix.com/advanced_search_result.php?actor=30268), Olin Francis (http://www.classicflix.com/advanced_search_result.php?actor=19484), Fern Emmett (http://www.classicflix.com/advanced_search_result.php?actor=9294), Henry Otho (http://www.classicflix.com/advanced_search_result.php?actor=8308), George She (http://www.classicflix.com/advanced_search_result.php?actor=116124), George Sherwood (http://www.classicflix.com/advanced_search_result.php?actor=5885), Arch Hall Sr. (http://www.classicflix.com/advanced_search_result.php?actor=10381), Frank LaRue (http://www.classicflix.com/advanced_search_result.php?actor=28190) Director: George Sherman (http://www.classicflix.com/advanced_search_result.php?director=482&keywords=+) Genre: Blu-Ray (http://www.classicflix.com/bluray-c-15.html), Westerns (http://www.classicflix.com/bluray-westerns-c-15_456.html) Year: 1938 (http://www.classicflix.com/advanced_search_result.php?keywords=+&yfrom=1938&yto=1938) Studio: Olive Films (http://www.classicflix.com/advanced_search_result.php?studio=2631&keywords=+) Length: 55 minutes Release Date: October 2, 2012 Rating: NR Format: DVD Misc: NTSC, Full Screen, Black & White

SYNOPSIS:
Overland Stage Raiders (the second of eight Wayne Mesquiteers films) co-stars silent film icon, Louise Brooks (in her final performance) and Anthony Marsh as siblings who partner up with the three amigos to save their struggling airline, standing in their way is an evil business man and his band of outlaws.

The Three Mesquiteers was the umbrella title for a series of fifty-one B-westerns released between 1936 and 1943. The films featured the characters Stony Brooke, Tucson Smith and Lullaby Joslin or Rusty Joslin as the threesome; played by many B-western stars of that era.

In 1938, John Wayne took over for Robert Livingston as Stony Brooke and starred in eight Mesquiteers films between 1938 and 1939, he was joined by Ray Corrigan as Tucson Smith and Max Terhune as Lullaby Joslin for the first six and Raymond Hatton as Rusty Joslin for the last two… all eight films were directed by George Sherman (Big Jake). John Ford’s Stagecoach was perfectly sandwiched between the eight films and John Wayne portrayal of the outlaw gunfighter made him a superstar and ended Wayne’s Stony Brooke run… Livingston was rehired as Brooke and went on to make fourteen more Mesquiteers films and for an incredible total of twenty-nine.

NO BONUS FEATURES

http://i742.photobucket.com/albums/xx61/pvitari/redriverrange.jpg

Red River Range (Blu-Ray) (1938)
Starring: John Wayne (http://www.classicflix.com/advanced_search_result.php?actor=435), Ray Corrigan (http://www.classicflix.com/advanced_search_result.php?actor=9308), Max Terhune (http://www.classicflix.com/advanced_search_result.php?actor=9309), Polly Moran (http://www.classicflix.com/advanced_search_result.php?actor=1533), Lorna Gray (http://www.classicflix.com/advanced_search_result.php?actor=21322), Kirby Grant (http://www.classicflix.com/advanced_search_result.php?actor=6992), Sammy McKim (http://www.classicflix.com/advanced_search_result.php?actor=9349), William Royle (http://www.classicflix.com/advanced_search_result.php?actor=12452), Perry Ivins (http://www.classicflix.com/advanced_search_result.php?actor=11100), Stanley Blystone (http://www.classicflix.com/advanced_search_result.php?actor=2536), Burr Caruth (http://www.classicflix.com/advanced_search_result.php?actor=8930), Roger Williams (http://www.classicflix.com/advanced_search_result.php?actor=12154), Earl Askam (http://www.classicflix.com/advanced_search_result.php?actor=28642), Olin Francis (http://www.classicflix.com/advanced_search_result.php?actor=19484) Director: George Sherman (http://www.classicflix.com/advanced_search_result.php?director=482&keywords=+) Genre: Blu-Ray (http://www.classicflix.com/bluray-c-15.html), Westerns (http://www.classicflix.com/bluray-westerns-c-15_456.html) Year: 1938 (http://www.classicflix.com/advanced_search_result.php?keywords=+&yfrom=1938&yto=1938) Studio: Olive Films (http://www.classicflix.com/advanced_search_result.php?studio=2631&keywords=+) Length: 56 minutes Release Date: October 2, 2012 Rating: NR Format: DVD Misc: NTSC, Full Screen, Black & White Language: English(Original Language)

SYNOPSIS:
In Red River Range (the fourth of eight Wayne Mesquiteers films), The Cattlemen’s Association has called in the three amigos to find a gang of cattle rustlers, their friend Tex Riley (Kirby Grant) poses as Stony, so the real stony can go undercover as an outlaw to infiltrate the gang. Featuring Polly Moran and Lorna Gray.

The Three Mesquiteers was the umbrella title for a series of fifty-one B-westerns released between 1936 and 1943. The films featured the characters Stony Brooke, Tucson Smith and Lullaby Joslin or Rusty Joslin as the threesome; played by many B-western stars of that era.

In 1938, John Wayne took over for Robert Livingston as Stony Brooke and starred in eight Mesquiteers films between 1938 and 1939, he was joined by Ray Corrigan as Tucson Smith and Max Terhune as Lullaby Joslin for the first six and Raymond Hatton as Rusty Joslin for the last two… all eight films were directed by George Sherman (Big Jake). John Ford’s Stagecoach was perfectly sandwiched between the eight films and John Wayne portrayal of the outlaw gunfighter made him a superstar and ended Wayne’s Stony Brooke run… Livingston was rehired as Brooke and went on to make fourteen more Mesquiteers films and for an incredible total of twenty-nine.

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Three Texas Steers (Blu-Ray) (1939)
Starring: John Wayne (http://www.classicflix.com/advanced_search_result.php?actor=435), Ray Corrigan (http://www.classicflix.com/advanced_search_result.php?actor=9308), Max Terhune (http://www.classicflix.com/advanced_search_result.php?actor=9309), Carole Landis (http://www.classicflix.com/advanced_search_result.php?actor=3748), Ralph Graves (http://www.classicflix.com/advanced_search_result.php?actor=20437), Roscoe Ates (http://www.classicflix.com/advanced_search_result.php?actor=22243), Collette Lyons (http://www.classicflix.com/advanced_search_result.php?actor=27798), Billy Curtis (http://www.classicflix.com/advanced_search_result.php?actor=2907), Ted Adams (http://www.classicflix.com/advanced_search_result.php?actor=9340), Stanley Blystone (http://www.classicflix.com/advanced_search_result.php?actor=2536), David Sharpe (http://www.classicflix.com/advanced_search_result.php?actor=19415), Ethan Laidlaw (http://www.classicflix.com/advanced_search_result.php?actor=2524), Lew Kelly (http://www.classicflix.com/advanced_search_result.php?actor=4382) Director: George Sherman (http://www.classicflix.com/advanced_search_result.php?director=482&keywords=+) Genre: Blu-Ray (http://www.classicflix.com/bluray-c-15.html), Westerns (http://www.classicflix.com/bluray-westerns-c-15_456.html) Year: 1939 (http://www.classicflix.com/advanced_search_result.php?keywords=+&yfrom=1939&yto=1939) Studio: Olive Films (http://www.classicflix.com/advanced_search_result.php?studio=2631&keywords=+) Length: 56 minutes Release Date: October 2, 2012 Rating: NR Format: DVD Misc: NTSC, Full Screen, Black & White Language: English(Original Language)

SYNOPSIS:
Three Texas Steers (the sixth of eight Wayne Mesquiteers films) co-stars Carole Landis as Nancy Evans, a lovely circus owner whose crooked manager, George Ward (Ralph Graves) sabotages her circus with a series of mysterious incidents, so she has no choice, but to sell the ranch her grandfather left her in Mesquite County. Bankrupted and broke, Nancy and her band of carnies decide to move to Mesquite and live on the ranch until they’re back on their feet. Ward and is cohorts vow to drive Nancy off her ranch, but standing in their way are Nancy’s new neighbors, The Three Mesquiteers. This was Max Terhune’s twenty-first and final appearance as Lullaby Joslin.

The Three Mesquiteers was the umbrella title for a series of fifty-one B-westerns released between 1936 and 1943. The films featured the characters Stony Brooke, Tucson Smith and Lullaby Joslin or Rusty Joslin as the threesome; played by many B-western stars of that era.

In 1938, John Wayne took over for Robert Livingston as Stony Brooke and starred in eight Mesquiteers films between 1938 and 1939, he was joined by Ray Corrigan as Tucson Smith and Max Terhune as Lullaby Joslin for the first six and Raymond Hatton as Rusty Joslin for the last two… all eight films were directed by George Sherman (Big Jake). John Ford’s Stagecoach was perfectly sandwiched between the eight films and John Wayne portrayal of the outlaw gunfighter made him a superstar and ended Wayne’s Stony Brooke run… Livingston was rehired as Brooke and went on to make fourteen more Mesquiteers films and for an incredible total of twenty-nine.

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Hondo Duke Lane
July 29th, 2012, 11:40 PM
Three movies are coming out on Blu-Ray October 2, 2012. Pretty exciting to see Duke's movies from his "B" movies making it to the Blu-Ray scene. These are the ones coming out.

The Night Riders (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008I34ZFM/ref=s9_simh_bw_p74_d0_i1?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-10&pf_rd_r=16WBCZ5TXDHEWS1RXVKW&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=1330440462&pf_rd_i=2625373011) (1939)

Three Texas Steers (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008I34YZS/ref=s9_simh_bw_p74_d0_i2?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-10&pf_rd_r=0HBK0Q68YJPYXB3731ER&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=1330440462&pf_rd_i=2625373011) (1939)

Red River Range (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008I34YDK/ref=s9_simh_bw_p74_d0_i3?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-10&pf_rd_r=1JF92S2GAC9PAYNXYYQJ&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=1330440462&pf_rd_i=2625373011) (1938)

Cheers :cool: Hondo

Hondo Duke Lane
July 29th, 2012, 11:44 PM
Don't forget that Rio Grande (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0082SIAD6/ref=s9_simh_bw_p74_d0_i4?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-10&pf_rd_r=0GAX7Q59BTQRDKC2GAP1&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=1330440462&pf_rd_i=2625373011) (1950) is coming out on Blu-Ray on August 7, 2012. That is in 9 days. The second of the three Calvary trilogy on Blu-Ray. A must for the collection that features Maureen O'Hara.

Cheers :cool: Hondo