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chester7777 February 20th, 2003, 11:51 PM Well, now . . . I haven't seen Rooster Cogburn in quite some time, and my wife had never seen it before. We had a perfectly delightful evening watching John Wayne and Katherine Hepburn matching wits with each other. When they were passing out Academy Awards, I think both John and Katherine deserved them for this performance. I actually think it was much better than True Grit, had more depth and much better dialogue. There were many great quotes, I almost should watch it again, so I can write them all down. :D
We'll be watching e-bay and Amazon.com for a reasonably priced copy on this one for sure!
Chester
P.S. One would definitely get the impression that Rooster had worn a gray uniform in the War Between the States after watching this movie!
dukefan1 February 21st, 2003, 06:37 AM I loved the pairing of Duke and Hepburn very much. It was about time they shared the screen together and too bad they never got the chance to do it again. They had talked of doing another sequal to Rooster titled "Someday" if Rooster did well at the box office. It didn't, so they never progressed with it. The title came from the discussion they had at the end of Rooster Cogburn when they talked of seeing each other again...Someday! Too bad it didn't happen. We were cheated out of another great Duke film! :angry:
Idaho February 21st, 2003, 11:55 AM Chester
You're right there are some truly great lines in that one. Like when Rooster sets that trap for the wagon and fools them into thinking he has a posse, then some one does something to piss him off and he yells, "Prepare to meet your maker." Or something like that. You certainly are right, Hepburn and the duke did make a very lively pair. :)
Idaho
CHANCE February 22nd, 2003, 04:49 AM I'd like to know what you thought of True Grit with Warren Oats I thought it was ABYSMAL! :angry:
Big Jake April 26th, 2003, 02:02 PM I have to say True Grit was a lot better than the poorly done Rooster Cogburn
Robbie April 27th, 2003, 08:39 PM Big Jake so far this is the only thing to which I agree with you on True Grit is far superior to Rooster Cogburn!!!!! B)
BrianB July 2nd, 2003, 04:56 AM True Grit was Better
Brian
Tulalip Wa
A Girl Named Jen September 21st, 2003, 09:18 AM I watched (most of) Rooster Cogburn yesterday. (Is it called Rooster Cogburn, or Rooster Cogburn... and the Lady?) Anyhoo, I thought it was immensely enjoyable - not his best movie, certainly, but lots of fun and I greatly enjoyed the interplay between he and Kate Hepburn. Here you've got two people who seem like complete opposites and yet really seem to have a great deal of respect for each other. I wonder if this translated to their off-screen working relationship too; I like to think so.
Of course, there were lots of elements in it that reminded me a great deal of The African Queen - the movie KH made with Humphrey Bogart, where he played a hard-drinking "sinner" and she played a "Bible-beating" spinster.
Can someone help me with the exact quote from KH's little speech at the end of the film? She talks about Rooster's big bear paws and his one sparkling eye and tells him that he's a credit to the male sex. I found it incredibly touching and it almost brought tears to my eyes. I think it expresses how a lot of ladies feel about Duke. :wub:
Sue D Nim September 21st, 2003, 12:33 PM Hi, Jen. I'm new here. Nice to meet you.
That always brings a lump to my throat, too. John Wayne and Katharine Hepburn are two of my very favorites, and every minute of watching them together is a treat. I agree, there are tons of similarities between this movie and The African Queen (another of my favorites of hers .. hmm, I wonder if there's a forum as good as this for Katharine Hepburn fans?).
I looked up the exact wording, and I'm pretty sure this is accurate:
I look at you with your burnt out face and your big belly and your bear like paws and your shining eye, and I have to say, you’re a credit to the whole male sex. And I’m proud to have you for my friend.
Don't you just love that speech? It's when she gets to "shining eye," and her voice catches and a tear shines in her eye, that gets to me every time.
As for the title, I think it was released under both titles, "Rooster Cogburn" in the U.S., and "Rooster Cogburn and the Lady" elsewhere. Somebody else can probably verify this better than I can. I don't know why they do that to movies! They do it to books, too.
- Sue
smokey September 22nd, 2003, 07:29 AM hi jen and sue
down under that movie was released under both names and i know what you mean about name changes they did that to one of our movies called "mad max" down under but in the US it was known as "the road warrior" i think it has something to do with appeal to the different countries that is why they change the names of books and movies
cheers smokey
A Girl Named Jen September 22nd, 2003, 08:39 AM Thanks so much, Sue! Welcome! I'm pretty new here as well but it already feels nice & cosy & homey.
So pull up a chair and set a spell by the fire. :)
Thanks for the quote! Awww. I love it. Yes, KH looked like she had tears in her eyes there and it felt so real. When you've got such great actors working together you're bound to have something special.
In The African Queen, I get a lump in my throat when Rose says, "Dear, what is your name?" He says "Charlie," and she says "Charlie. It's a nice name!" or something to that effect. Simple things can be so beautiful sometimes!
kilo 6 April 9th, 2006, 12:59 AM Hello All
Interesting comments here, perhaps members would like to weigh in. Chester did you get a copy of Rooster Cogburn yet? murray
etsija April 9th, 2006, 08:03 AM The banter between Wayne and Hepburn is enjoyable in Rooster, but it's still just warming up the original masterpiece True Grit
chester7777 April 9th, 2006, 09:43 AM Murray,
I did get a copy of Rooster Cogburn, so long ago I don't remember when it was anymore. In retrospect, after having watched it a few more times, I would admit that True Grit is a little better, but I still think Duke and Miss Hepburn were deserving of Oscars for their performances.
Plus, Rooster Cogburn was filmed in Oregon! I just returned from there last night, and it is as beautiful as ever.
Chester :newyear:
kilo 6 April 9th, 2006, 04:52 PM Hello All
Hi Chester, while I agree that Oregon is beautiful and that California is also very fine I must enquire as to wether or not you have seen British Columbia?
murray
ZS_Maverick April 9th, 2006, 07:22 PM To put my two cents in, (a half-a-cent after taxes) I like both of these movies - “True Grit” made #1 on my top 25 list this year - it’s a classic- one of the all time best. “Rooster Cogburn”, for my taste, is a very good movie as well. A simple movie, and, no, not as good as “True Grit”, IMO, but still a very enjoyable movie. I agree with Chester - it’s the two main actors that made it that enjoyable. The actors that portrayed the badguys kept it interesting for me as well.
BTW the Kiamiche Mountains of Southeastern Oklahoma, where both stories take place, is also beautiful country. (one of my favorite getaways since I’m so close) Of course we don’t have the snow capped mountains of Colorado and California (where “True Grit” was filmed) or Oregon (where “Rooster Cogburn” was filmed), but still pretty country!
DukePilgrim April 11th, 2006, 03:49 PM True Grit is a classic in all aspects. Rooster Cogburn whilst it has it moments and is a very good movie does feel tired. The scenery is nice
I think the health problems that impeded Duke at this stage changed the flow and pace of Rooster. Pairing with Hepburn was excellent but the other costars were only so so. It did feel like a TV movie at times.
In hindsight if Rooster had been done say 1970-73 and with a different director I think it would have been a much better movie.
I saw the Warren Oates TV movie once. Man it was bad. Havent seen it since and that was 20 odd years ago. No dont rush me VCR or DVDs ot it PLEASE!!
:stunned:
Mike
General Sterling Price April 11th, 2006, 08:39 PM I like "Rooster Cogburm" for the reasons given, the banter, the action...I mean that is awesome seeing Wayne float a raft, operate a gatling gun and protect the lady and boy all at once. Another thing that is interesting...is if you watch it and count all the bad guys at the beginning, and then count them down as they get picked off, you will see at the end, when the ones left ride out into the river to face off with the Duke, the number is wrong, based on the number killed thus far.
GSP
General Sterling Price April 11th, 2006, 08:47 PM And I forgot to mention the great scene where Rooster got the wagon, killed two and sent the rest a runnin' ... and one of those shot was coming around behind Rooster, so he says to the boy, "that was good shooting" only to learn it was Eula that fired the shot.
Senta April 13th, 2006, 12:56 PM Hi all,
I watched Rooster Cogburn yesterday and I enjoyed it so much. It was interesting that Russian language was found on UK 2 zone DVD (in subtitels, of course).
Regards,
Senta :rolleyes:
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