How many John Wayne film's did the brilliant bit player Hank Worden
appear in and can you name them.
The Searchers
Big Jake :rolleyes:

Chance,

Hank Worden was in a total of 14 films with the Duke. Included with "The Searchers", and "Big Jake";

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Angel and the Badman
Fort Apache
Red River
Three Godfathers
The Fighting Kentuckian
The Horse Soldiers
The Alamo
McLintock
True Grit
Chisum
Rio Lobo
Cahill: U.S. Marshal

:rolleyes:

Originally posted by Hondo Duke Lane@Feb 27 2003, 05:47 PM
Chance,

Hank Worden was in a total of 14 films with the Duke.* Included with "The Searchers", and "Big Jake";

:unsure:

Angel and the Badman
Fort Apache
Red River
Three Godfathers
The Fighting Kentuckian
The Horse Soldiers
The Alamo
McLintock
True Grit
Chisum
Rio Lobo
Cahill: U.S. Marshal

:rolleyes:
if you watch closely in the fighting kentuckian you will see hank as an indian and as a frontiersman also 2 roles for the price of one :ph34r:

Originally posted by georgec@Apr 10 2003, 10:54 AM
if you watch closely in the fighting kentuckian you will see hank as an indian and as a frontiersman also 2 roles for the price of one :ph34r:
Just for fun, we were reading through really old threads, and stumbled upon this one. First of all, it was interesting to see that CHANCE has been around almost the whole time this board has been up and running - I hadn't realized that.

Second, I'll have to watch The Fighting Kentuckian again to catch Hank Worden in two roles.

Third, I discovered that Hank Worden and John Wayne appeared 15 times together in films (thanks to IMDb's Joint Venture Search :rolleyes: ). Here's the list -

Night Riders, The (1939) ...aka Lone Star Bullets - Rancher (uncredited)
(this is the one that is not in the list above, and which I have never seen - or heard of - before)

Angel and the Badman (1947) - Townsman (uncredited)
3 Godfathers (1948) - Deputy Curly
Fort Apache (1948) - Southern Recruit
Red River (1948) - Sims Reeves
Fighting Kentuckian, The (1949) - Militiaman announcer of wrestling (uncredited)
(sorry, George, IMDb did not give credit for more than the one role)
Searchers, The (1956) - Mose Harper (in our house, this is his defining role -every other movie we ever saw him in, we'd say, "Hey, look, it's Mose."
Horse Soldiers, The (1959) - Deacon Clump
Alamo, The (1960) - Parson
McLintock! (1963) - Curly Fletcher
True Grit (1969) - R. Ryan (undertaker, Fort Smith, Arkansas) (uncredited)
Chisum (1970) - Stationmaster
Rio Lobo (1970) - Hank, hotel clerk (uncredited)
Big Jake (1971) - Hank (McCandles' ranch hand)
Cahill U.S. Marshal (1973) - Albert, Valentine Stationmaster


Chester :newyear: and the Mrs. :angel1:

Hi Chester,
And may I wish you and your family a very happy New Year.

At one time Hank Worden was crediteded with being in The Quiet Man as the referee in the boxing match you have to look closely but it is not convincing.

On television he also appeared in The Colter Craven Story episode of Wagon Train
playing a townsman in Ward Bonds flashback scene.

Regards

Arthur

Why Thank you Arthur,

My wife and I will have to dig out The Quiet Man and check it out! ;)
It happens, for us, to be in our top five favorite John Wayne films, so... :D
What better to do on a rainy New Years day?

Chester :newyear: and The Mrs. :angel1:

Hi

That defiently isnt Hank Worden in 'The Quiet Man' the only similarity between the two men is that they were both bald. :D

:agent:

Originally posted by arthurarnell@Jan 1 2004, 04:19 AM
At one time Hank Worden was crediteded with being in The Quiet Man as the referee in the boxing match you have to look closely but it is not convincing.
You said a one time, does that mean it's not true now or what?

Cheers, Hondo B)

Hi Hondo,
The list of people appearing in films especially in minor supporting roles is a nightmare lots of different names appear and unless you can actually see them know their name or get a fully verified film list, you can never be fully sure.
In the case of Hank Worden as I said it depends on what book and what film expert you read, and when it comes down to it as you have discovered the best method is your own eyes and expert knowledge

Best Regards

Arthur

Just for the record it defiently is not Hank Worden in 'The Quiet Man' check it out for yourself you will see.

:agent:

Robbie is correct about the Quiet Man...Hank is definitely not in the picture...it wasn't the referee that kind of looked like him, but rather one of the trainers that stands next to the Duke while the doctors examine the boxer who was dead on the mat. There is a faint resemblance, but my wife and I played this scene over and over until we were convinced that ol Mose was not the guy here.

GSP

Another great supporting actor to John Wayne was Victor McLaglen, who appeared with the Duke in the following movies -

Black Watch, The (1929) - JW played as an uncredited extra in this one
...aka King of the Khyber Rifles (1929) (UK)
Fort Apache (1948)
...aka War Party (1948)
Hangman's House (1928)
Mother Machree (1928)
Quiet Man, The (1952)
Rio Grande (1950)
...aka John Ford and Merian C. Cooper's Rio Grande (1950) (USA: complete title)
...aka Rio Bravo (1950) (USA: working title)
...aka Rio Bravo, Rio Grande Command (1950) (USA: working title)
She Wore a Yellow Ribbon (1949)

Thanks again to IMDb "Joint Ventures" search for the above information.

My wife and I have always enjoyed his performances in the above movies, as well as in at least one Shirley Temple movie, Wee Willie Winkie.

This week, we rented Gunga Din because it starred Cary Grant, but were pleasantly surprised to discover that Victor McLaglen was in it as well. Boy, did he look young, as did Cary Grant and Douglas Fairbanks, Jr.! It turned out to be a very interesting movie based loosely on the poem by Rudyard Kipling. It takes place in British India during the Thuggee uprising. Three fun loving sergeants are doing fine until one of them wants to get married and leave the service. The other two trick him into a final mission where they end up confronting the entire cult by themselves as the British Army is entering a trap.

Maybe some of you folks from the UK can fill us in on whether this story is based on fact or not. We couldn't really find anything that answered that question.

Having seen the Indiana Jones movie Temple of Doom several years ago (the first time), I had been quite impressed with George Lucas and Steven Spielberg's imagination as to the plot and all of the interesting concepts that were highlighted in the movie, thinking to myself, What original thinking to come up with this plot and some of these exciting situations. Now, it seems that perhaps they might have watched this 1939 version of Gunga Din and gleaned some ideas from it. So maybe it's true that "nothing is new under the sun."

Chester :newyear: and the Mrs. :angel1:

Hi Chester,
Gunga Din was based on a poem by Rudyard Kipling who during his youth spent a very unhappy childhood living in Southsea which is a suburb of Portsmouth where I live. At least once a fortnight I go past his house to visit my mother in law.

The film was directed by George Sherman who also directed the 'Three Mesquiteers' series of John Wayne pictures and after being in retirement was brought back to direct J.W in Big Jake'

Hi again.
As an after thought the film was remade some years later as 'Sergeants Three with Frank Sinatra, Dean Martin Peter Lawford and Sammy Davis Jnr playing the original Sam Jaffe role of Gungha Din.

Regards
Arthur

Hi Chester,

First thing I do is go and is get my George's mixed up

George Stevens directed Gunga Din and Then went on to make the Greatest Story Ever Told, not George Sherman.

Rudyard Kiplng was born in India and lived there for the first six yars of his life, when he returned to England and spent the next five years living in a foster home in Southsea.

In 1892 he returned to India and worked as a journalist. In 1889 he returned to England and continued writing his stories and poems the majority of which were about the British Raj and Burma.

He was one of the first to recognise the value of the ordinary British soldier and the worth of the Non Commissioned Officers in the days of empire and his work was based on his own personal or other peoples experiences of his time in India.

Among many of the poems he wrote were 'If' and 'Gungha Din' which was a part of Barrack Room Ballads'
Yes Din! Din!Din!
You Lazarshian-leather Gunga Din,
Though I've belted you and flayed you,
By the living God that made you
Your a better man than I am Gunga Din'

Other works by Kipling that have been made into films include:
The Man who would Be King - starring Sean Connery and Michael Caine in which Christopher Plummer playes Kipling and is the films narrator.

The Jungle Book

Wee Willie Winkie - with Shirley Temple and Victor McLaglen director John Ford

The Light That Failed

Elephant Boy

Soldiers Three starring David Niven Stewart Grainger and Robert Newton

Captains Courageous - Starring Spencer Tracy, Lionel Barrymore and Freddie Bartholomow.


Best Regards

Arthur

Hey, Arthur, exciting to live nearby a historic site, isn't it?
Was it also one of Kipling's poems that the Errol Flynn vehicle "Charge of the Light Brigade" is based on? (the poem is recited in the exiting action finale when the four hundred ride into the valley of death)

Hi ITDO

No The Charge of the Light Brigade was written by Tennyson the Hon Lionel.
(as a historical fact the picture leaves a lot to be desidered, although its not a bad picture and Nolan did have Indian connections)
a French general watching the actual charge commented ( my French fails me)

"cest manifique but it is not war"

One of Kipling's films that Errol Flynn did star in and which I forgot to mention was Kim which also co-starred a very young Dean Stockwell.

Portsmouth where I live has a number of literary and acting connections besides Kipling:

Charles Dickens was born in Portsmouth and his house is open to visitors

Sir Arthur Conan Doyle lived in Portsmouth while practising as a doctor and wrote the first Sherlock Holmes novel in Southsea

Neville Shute - (A Town Like Alice and On The Beach) worked in Portsmouth

H.G. Wells worked as a Drapers Assistant in Southsea and his book Kipps which was a semi autobiographical account of his time working there was subsequently turned into the musical 'Half a Sixpence'

Actors with Portsmouth connections include Peter Sellers who was born in Portsmouth
Michael Ripper - (he of Hammer Horror Fame and Ingrid Pitt) and was also born in Portsmouth

David Niven lived briefly in Portsmouth.

And finally and hopefully to tie it all up nicely for Chester and yourself and get to get this topic back on to John Wayne's supporting actors -

Montague Love who was born in Portsmouth in 1877 and made his name appearing as a villain in numerous films. Among films he appeared in were 'Gunga Din' and played the Bishop in Errol Flynn's 'Robin Hood' and as the judge in John Wayne's 'Lady For a Night'


Best Regards

Arthur

Originally posted by arthurarnell@Jan 19 2004, 05:31 AM
And finally and hopefully to tie it all up nicely for Chester and yourself and get to get this topic back on to John Wayne's supporting actors
Wow! That was an incredible side trip, Arthur. True, not related to JW, but fascinating nonetheless.

Probably my favorite line from any poem came from Rudyard Kipling's Gods of the Copybook Heading -

. . . and the fool's burnt finger came wobbling back to the flame . . .

Kind of a commentary on human nature, don't you think?

By the way, Victor McLaglen was in Wee Willie Winkee, and John Ford directed it (so we can bring it back to the JW realm . . . :rolleyes: ).

Chester :newyear: