Liberty Valance On Rush Limbaugh

[General Sterling Price]

It was kind of funny, I was just listening to award winning radio host Rush Limbaugh, and when being accused of being the one to draw attention to senator Dick Durban's comments that our troops are the same as Nazis, Limbaugh said, I am proud to be exposed to be the one who shot Liberty Valance.

Once again, John Wayne is just a part of American conversation.

GSP

[Stumpy]

Originally posted by General Sterling Price@Jun 21 2005, 01:37 PM
It was kind of funny, I was just listening to award winning radio host Rush Limbaugh, and when being accused of being the one to draw attention to senator Dick Durban's comments that our troops are the same as Nazis, Limbaugh said, I am proud to be exposed to be the one who shot Liberty Valance.

Once again, John Wayne is just a part of American conversation.

GSP

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Durbin should be stood up against a wall and shot for the traitorous SOB that he is.

[William T Brooks]

Stumpy; I Second That!!!

Bill

[General Sterling Price]

The sad part, is that there is somone's son, someone's husband, some little girl's father wearing the United States military uniform who will come home in a body bag, because a would-be terrorist in Iraq heard Durbin's comments on Arab news and will believe what was said, and become angry and make the decision to go out and take revenge on our troops.

Words do matter...if you were to yell "FIRE" in a crowded theatre, you would be charged with murder for those trampled to death. The same goes for Dick Durbin. This wasn't intended necessarily to be a political topic, but I DO support the troops! And its not really about a political party. I am a member of the GOP, but I am also just about as angry about GOP senator Chuck Hagel who just announced that we are losing the war in Iraq. Whatever happened to bi-partisan support for our troops. I mean we can disagree about how much to spend to save the spotted owl, but why can't all Americans agree to support our troops on the battlefield? Much less U.S. Senators who recklessly accuse our troops of being like Nazis and that we are losing a war that we are obviously winning. I mean, just ask Saddam and his sons who is winning this war?

Anyway, enough rant. I just thought it was cool to hear Liberty Valance on the radio!

[Jay J. Foraker]

Amen, General SP -
Jay

[JOHNWAYNEABE]

Dick Durban the name says it all huh Dick! Does anyone know if he served in Nam?
He sounds more like one of those guys who hid out in Canada smoked pot all day and talked crap about the US while many were dieing fighting .
What a clown I support the war effort I am an American and would never disrespect the men and women giving there lives for our freedom especially refereing to them as Nazis WOW that really makes me mad. That jack ass is one of the fools out there that think if we ignore terrorism it will go away they need to wake up and realize that it is here in a big way and needs to be exterminated absolutely and completely its a fact that they are trying to achieve nuclear capability in any form possible. I can go on forever about this topic. I feal America needs to stop worrying about what the rest of the world thinks and take care of business. And stop electing people like Dick Durban!

[SXViper]

That jack ass is one of the fools out there that think if we ignore terrorism it will go away they need to wake up and realize that it is here in a big way

Unfortunatley thats the way a majority of America feels. People think that if we leave them alone, they will leave us alone. Well, think again. What happened on 9-11? The US frigate in the gulf blowing a hole in the side of the ship? The first attempt to bring down the towers? People put there heads in the sand cause it much easier to run from it them meet it head on!! And thats just what the terrorists want.

[Stumpy]

Originally posted by SXViper@Jun 21 2005, 10:52 PM
Unfortunatley thats the way a majority of America feels. People think that if we leave them alone, they will leave us alone. Well, think again. What happened on 9-11? The US frigate in the gulf blowing a hole in the side of the ship? The first attempt to bring down the towers? People put there heads in the sand cause it much easier to run from it them meet it head on!! And thats just what the terrorists want.

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It's becoming increasingly clear that Americans didn't learn a thing from Vietnam.

In that conflict, the NV communists, with the help of traitors like Jane Fonda, Tom Hayden, Ramsey Clark, most of the so-called "mainstream" news media, the "60s" generation, etc, waited until the tide of American public opinion turned, which in turn influenced the clowns in Washington to stop funding the war. Naturally, that forced Nixon to withdraw the troops. Then the NVA walked into Saigon and took over.

I see an eerie parallel taking place now. Public opinion is starting to turn, which will eventually impel Congress to stop the funding, which will force whatever adminstration is in power to withdraw our troops, which will let al Qaeda walk into Baghdad and take over. Vietnam was a very bad precedent. Remember, folks, you read it here first.

[General Sterling Price]

I see an eerie parallel taking place now. Public opinion is starting to turn, which will eventually impel Congress to stop the funding, which will force whatever adminstration is in power to withdraw our troops, which will let al Qaeda walk into Baghdad and take over. Vietnam was a very bad precedent. Remember, folks, you read it here first.

I hope you are wrong Stumpy. I agree with your fears, but I am hoping that this time, things will be different. I think that the naysayers were quite disapointed when Saddam was captured, they are disappointed to hear that Iraqi schoolchildren are in school, they were VERY disappointed to see Iraqis elect a leader, and they desperately don't want their own troops ready to take over. After all, if the Iraqi troops take over, then we can leave honorably, and victoriously, and that would crush these naysayers. : : :

[Stumpy]

Originally posted by General Sterling Price@Jun 22 2005, 07:27 AM
I hope you are wrong Stumpy.

I hope so too, General, but I'd almost lay odds on the scenario I've described taking place.

Americans are not only a very impatient people but they've grown complacent since 9/11. And when they're bombarded day after day with negative views from not only the news media but most of the Democratic Party as well, you can hardly blame them for turning against our involvement in Iraq. Even many of our military leaders are expressing opinions that the insurgency can't be beat using current tactics.

Another similarity between Vietnam and Iraq is that the bad guys in both instances are using sanctuaries we're reluctant to violate. We wouldn't invade North Vietnam because we feared that would draw China and Russia into the conflict and al Qaeda is using Syria, Iran, Saudi Arabia and Jordan as sanctuaries for their terrorists. And you just know public opinion (and the spineless jerks in Congress) would never stand for a widening of the war by invading any of those countries.

[smokey]

hi stumpy

today i was talking to one of our vets who like you and many of your generation served in vietnam said something like you have just said in that they could not cross the yellow line to hunt down the aggressors he also pointed out that also like vietnam you cant really tell friend from foe. in this way he likened the action going on over in iraq as being the modern day version of vietnam.

i feel that we should support the troops no matter what country they come from and as for this dick well you could just take him out in a boat filled with holes and let the fish feed on him hanging is to good for him.

maybe he would feel different if his daughter/son was one of the serving members of the defence force, some one should ask him to make his child join up and go but bet your bottom dollar he would make sure they got a safe placement somewhere back at home.

he is lower than a snakes belly for saying anything about the women and men who are just doing their jobs.

cheers smokey

[Stumpy]

Originally posted by smokey@Jun 22 2005, 08:47 AM
hi stumpy

today i was talking to one of our vets who like you and many of your generation served in vietnam said something like you have just said in that they could not cross the yellow line to hunt down the aggressors he also pointed out that also like vietnam you cant really tell friend from foe. in this way he likened the action going on over in iraq as being the modern day version of vietnam.

maybe he would feel different if his daughter/son was one of the serving members of the defence force, some one should ask him to make his child join up and go but bet your bottom dollar he would make sure they got a safe placement somewhere back at home.

What most people fail to understand, Smokey, is that those troops serving in war zones (wherever they may be) are there at the orders of their leaders. They didn't choose to be there and in fact, would probably rather be almost anywhere else. But when you put on that uniform, you swear an oath to carry out the orders of those above you, whether you agree with those orders or not. That's what soldiers get paid to do.

And you're right about the children of politicians. Very few of them serve and those who do, are usually placed in a job where they won't be exposed to hostile fire.

Almost invariably, wars are started by politicians. The only problem is, those politicians never have to do the fighting and dying.

[smokey]

hi stumpy

your right about once you are wearing the uniform that you follow orders even when you dont agree with them. i understand this too well and for my own reasons i wish that all of the troops could pull out of iraq today but that is so that i dont have to see my brother go over but he will do as he is told if his time comes like many have done before him.

cheers smokey

[arthurarnell]

Hi Stumpy

You are right but I find that with the fullfillment of political events the war in Iraq rises and falls. We have just had our general election and before the votes were counted Iraq was a big issue. Now Mr Blair is back in power the Iraq conflict has taken a back seat and now Europe is the prime issue. Of course our lads are getting killed in Iraq the same as American boys are, but it doesent seem to be as important as it was, which is criminal.

Events happening now show Argentina trying to resurrect the Falklands campaign perhaps they have an election coming on. Politicians should not be so free with young mens lives to further their own aims, but it seems that politicians are the same whatever country the represent.



Regards

Arthur

[Stumpy]

Originally posted by arthurarnell@Jun 22 2005, 11:50 AM
it seems that politicians are the same whatever country the represent.

Truer words were never spoken, Arthur.

I have no use for politicians of any country. As far as I'm concerned, politicians differ only in the degree of corruption.