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    The Fighting Kentuckian (1949)

    THE FIGHTING KENTUCKIAN

    DIRECTED and WRITTEN BY GEORGE WAGGNER
    PRODUCED BY JOHN WAYNE
    REPUBLIC PICTURES



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    Plot Summary
    In Alabama in 1818, Kentucky militiaman John Breen falls in love with a French exile
    and discovers a plot to steal the land her fellow exiles plan to settle on.
    Summary written by Jim Beaver

    Full Cast
    John Wayne .... John Breen
    Vera Ralston .... Fleurette De Marchand
    Philip Dorn .... Col. Georges Geraud
    Oliver Hardy .... Willie Paine
    Marie Windsor .... Ann Logan
    John Howard .... Blake Randolph
    Hugo Haas .... Gen. Paul De Marchand
    Grant Withers .... George Hayden
    Odette Myrtil .... Madame De Marchand
    Paul Fix .... Beau Merritt
    Mae Marsh .... Sister Hattie
    Jack Pennick .... Capt. Dan Carroll
    Mickey Simpson .... Jacques (wrestler/Marie's father)
    Fred Graham .... Carter Ward
    Mabelle Koenig .... Marie
    Shy Waggner .... Friend
    Crystal White .... Friend
    Fred Aldrich .... Townsman (uncredited)
    Richard Alexander .... Militiaman at festival (uncredited)
    Dave Anderson .... Giles (uncredited)
    Charles Andre .... DeMarchand's servant (uncredited)
    Hank Bell .... Militiaman at festival (uncredited)
    Ralph Bucko .... Buck (uncredited)
    Charles Cane .... Knox Brown (head fiddler) (uncredited)
    Tex Cooper .... Man leaning against tree (uncredited)
    Gino Corrado .... French soldier (uncredited)
    Steve Darrell .... Gen. Jackson (uncredited)
    Ralph Dunn .... River man (uncredited)
    Franklyn Farnum .... DeMarchand party guest (uncredited)
    Billy Green .... Bartender (uncredited)
    William Hawes .... Bit part (uncredited)
    Fred Libby .... Bit part (uncredited)
    Cliff Lyons .... Kentuckian driver (uncredited)
    Alberto Morin .... Pierre Le Brun (uncredited)
    Al Murphy .... Buckskin (uncredited)
    Jack O'Shea .... Militiaman (uncredited)
    Jack Perry .... Demopolis citizen at festival (uncredited)
    Chuck Roberson .... Militiaman (uncredited)
    Michael Ross .... Sheriff (uncredited)
    David Sharpe .... French soldier with Run (uncredited)
    Brick Sullivan .... Militiaman at festival (uncredited)
    Tony Travers .... Frenchman (uncredited)
    Dale Van Sickel .... Brawler (uncredited)
    Blackie Whiteford .... Demopolis citizen at festival (uncredited)
    Bud Wolfe .... Militiaman at festival (uncredited)
    Hank Worden .... Abner Todd (militiaman announcing wrestling) (uncredited)

    Stunts
    Jerry Brown .... stunts (uncredited)
    Bob Bryant .... stunts (uncredited)
    Roydon Clark .... stunts (uncredited)
    Fred Graham .... stunts (uncredited)
    Chuck Hayward .... stunts (uncredited)
    John Hudkins .... stunts (uncredited)
    Cliff Lyons .... stunt coordinator (uncredited)
    Cliff Lyons .... stunts (uncredited)
    Bob Morgan .... stunts (uncredited)
    Chuck Roberson .... stunts (uncredited)
    David Sharpe .... stunts (uncredited)
    Henry Wills .... stunts (uncredited)
    Bud Wolfe .... stunts (uncredited)

    Original Music
    George Antheil

    Cinematography
    Lee Garmes

    Second Unit Director or Assistant Director
    Lee Lukather .... assistant director (uncredited)
    Robert E. Morrison .... assistant director (uncredited)

    Trivia
    Although Oliver Hardy was a good friend of John Wayne's,
    he initially balked at acting in this movie, for fear that it would make people
    think that he and Stan Laurel had broken up as a team.
    When Laurel insisted that Hardy take the role, he acquiesced.

    John Wayne later blamed the failure of the movie on co-star Vera Ralston.

    One of two movies that Oliver Hardy acted in during the 23 year period
    he made comedies with his partner Stan Laurel.

    Goofs
    * Anachronisms: Auto tire tracks visible in dust during wagon and horse chase scene.

    * Anachronisms: After Oliver Hardy sits down on and flattens his trumpet making it useless,
    the final scene shows him walking away with the rest of the happy group
    and a brand new trumpet on his back. Where did he get it?

    * Anachronisms: The "2nd Kentucky Regiment" is shown marching in step.
    Frontier militia units of that day were rarely trained in formal marching,
    being raised in response to a specific, short-term need, and disbanded
    as soon as possible to save money.
    Also, no unit would march in step unnecessarily, as it was tiring to the men.

    * Anachronisms: Willie talks of Kentucky and says
    "Ma is baking bread and you can smell it all through the house."
    He is referencing an early-to-mid 20th Century stereotype.
    At that time of the movie the typical house in Kentucky would have had only one or two rooms
    with an exterior kitchen under a lean-to. As almost all work was done outside the house,
    the smell in the house would not have been noticed.

    * Anachronisms: A number of times the background music uses pieces of "La Marseillaise".
    Although associated with revolutionary and modern France, the song was banned by Emperor Napoleon.

    * Continuity: At the beginning of the final battle, Fleurette runs out to give a weapon to John Breen.
    She brings neither a shot pouch or powder horn.
    Breen is also carrying neither of these items.
    However, he is somehow able to reload and fire the musket a number of times thereafter.

    Memorable Quotes

    Filming Location[/U][/B]
    CBS Studio Center - 4024 Radford Avenue, Studio City, Los Angeles, California, USA
    Last edited by ethanedwards; April 8th, 2013 at 05:42 PM.
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    The Fighting Kentuckian (1949) is an American comedy action film starring John Wayne and Oliver Hardy.
    The movie was written and directed by George Waggner and made by Republic Pictures.

    I really like this film, and found it great fun and entertainment.
    Duke played well, and was side-kicked by a rare appearance of Oliver Hardy,
    who acted exactly the same, as he did, only without Stan.
    He was funny, if not convincing in his role.

    Jack Pennick, played a much bigger role for him,
    and for members, who can't place him, this is a good movie, to see him.
    Duke had some friends in support including his brother Bob, Chuck, Paul Fix and Grant Withers.

    This was the first film Chuck Roberson, ,was to double for Duke,
    a decision, that was to change Chuck's life, forever.

    The weakest casting was that of Vera Hruba Ralston, the Czech skater,,
    who's only claim to fame, is that she was the Republic bosses, moll!!!
    She had trouble speaking English, and couldn't act, to save the ice melting!!
    She made 12 films for Republic and the only ones that made a profit,
    were, the ones she made with, Duke.

    Duke said,
    Yates made me use Vera Hruba,...I've always been mad at Yates about this,
    because we lost the chance to have one damn fine movie.
    I agree with the above,however, Duke was unhappy about the mediocrity of the film,
    it suffered from a convoluted plot,bad acting and weak comic relief, just everything about it was forgettable,
    but nevertheless, it made money at the box office.

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    What Do You Think Of The Fighting Kentuckian

    User Review
    Author: planktonrules from Bradenton, Florida, from IMDb

    This movie is pure Republic Pictures B-movie all the way, with relatively low production values,
    Very Ralston (girlfriend of the CEO) and lots of action.
    And this is not necessarily a bad thing (apart from the lousy acting by Ralston),
    as the movie is highly entertaining. So, if you just turn off your brain and enjoy, this is a terrific film.
    I particularly love seeing Oliver Hardy playing a rare supporting actor role very late in his career.
    Is he believable? Not in the least.
    But, he's funny and quite the sidekick to John Wayne
    . The plot, such as it is, involves Wayne falling for Cajun Ralston (a Swedish actress playing a Creole woman?!)
    and getting into a wide variety of scraps along the way.
    Not much more to it than that but it is so much fun, who cares?!
    Last edited by ethanedwards; March 22nd, 2013 at 09:21 PM.
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    Hi

    This was one of the first John Wayne films I ever remember seeing I must have been about eight or nine when it came second time around at the Shaftsbury our local 'flea pit' (although thats not quite as bad as that but they never showed new pictures only second or third time around films).

    Mostly I remember the finale with all the Kentuckians in the wagons coming to the aid of the homesteaders and Oliver Hardy and his trumpet. It was and still is a great film.

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    Re: The Fighting Kentuckian (1949)

    Hi



    Oliver Hardy, John Wayne and Phillip Dorn in a scene from
    'The Fighting Kentuckian'


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    Re: The Fighting Kentuckian (1949)

    I know we've posted this elsewhere (like here, but thought we'd link to it here, in the "rightful" thread.

    Of course, to update, our seven year old is now ten.

    But it is still a favorite line!

    Chester

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    Re: The Fighting Kentuckian (1949)

    Thanks Arthur,

    I've posted another photo, at the top of the thread.
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    Re: The Fighting Kentuckian (1949)

    I think I remember reading that Vera Hruba Ralston was Yate's mistress and he tried everything to make her a star.

    Well worth watching though for Oliver Hardy alone.


    Mike

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    Re: The Fighting Kentuckian (1949)

    Hi Mike

    Hope this answers it

    Originally Posted by ethanedwards

    The weakest casting was that of Vera Hruba Ralston, the Czech skater,,
    who's only claim to fame, is that she was the REPUBLIC bosses, moll!!!
    She had trouble speaking English, and couldn't act, to save the ice melting!!
    She made 12 films for REPUBLIC and the only ones that made a profit,
    were, the ones she made with, Duke.
    Duke said,
    Yates made me use Vera Hruba,...I've always been mad at Yates about this,
    because we lost the chance to have one damn fine movie.
    Author: planktonrules from Bradenton, Florida, from IMDb
    This movie is pure Republic Pictures B-movie all the way, with relatively low production values,
    Very Ralston (girlfriend of the CEO) and lots of action.
    And this is not necessarily a bad thing (apart from the lousy acting by Ralston),
    as the movie is highly entertaining. So, if you just turn off your brain and enjoy, this is a terrific film.
    I particularly love seeing Oliver Hardy playing a rare supporting actor role very late in his career. Is he believable? Not in the least.
    But, he's funny and quite the sidekick to John Wayne
    Last edited by ethanedwards; February 21st, 2007 at 09:16 AM.
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    Re: The Fighting Kentuckian (1949)

    Thanks Keith

    When her illustrious career ended didnt he eventually marry her.


    Mike

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    Re: The Fighting Kentuckian (1949)

    Mike,

    He sure did!!
    They married in March 1952,
    and it lasted until February 1966 (His death)

    She was obviously a better wife than
    she was an actress, and if you read on,
    she wasn't stupid either!
    Ralson is generally conceded to owe her "stardom"
    to being the personal "protege" of Republic Pictures studio head Herbert J. Yates.
    They were married in 1952. Significantly, she "retired" from the screen in 1958,
    the year Yates was deposed as head of the studio.
    They remained married until Yates' death in 1966,
    at which point Ralston inherited half of his $10 million estate.

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    Re: The Fighting Kentuckian (1949)

    Here's a movie poster for The Fighting Kentuckian.

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    Re: The Fighting Kentuckian (1949)

    Hi Keith

    Smart woman after all!!


    Mike

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    Re: The Fighting Kentuckian (1949)

    Hi

    Here a well known picture of the Duke from The Fighting Kentuckian. I have both the Black and white and colour version of the photograph'


    Regards

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    Re: The Fighting Kentuckian (1949)

    Hi

    Obviously during the 1940s posters came in all shapes and sizes as they do today.

    Wether this is a Britis poster and subject to rationing or not I don't know but it is ceratinly quite plain.

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    Re: The Fighting Kentuckian (1949)

    Quote Originally Posted by arthurarnell View Post
    Hi

    Here a well known picture of the Duke from The Fighting Kentuckian. I have both the Black and white and colour version of the photograph'


    Regards

    Arthur


    Good photo that is!Thanks for sharing

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